Re: wrote hebrew general FAQ

1999-12-12 Thread Eli Marmor

Ira Abramov wrote:

 Eli? Is CAWABANGA installable on other machines by now? what's the
 status on its distribution?

I consider it as "alpha", but some Hebrew sites, including leading
and famous, already use it as production, even for critical jobs like
e-commerce (yes, it supports SSL).

Currently, I'm trying to avoid "sales", because the current stage
(alpha) causes a lot of effort to be spent on each installation, so
other important things (like completion of the beta version, or
putting the Hebrew Netscape in my FTP server) are delayed. I hope to
reach the first beta soon, but I don't promise anything.

Regarding to the FAQ: I'll be happy to host it. My own web site is
already powered by my stuff, and will have a major upgrade in the
following days. In addition to host it, I'll open a port that you can
use as a proxy to access web pages in other sites, in your preferred
Hebrew method (Visual, Logical, and even without Hebrew fonts). Note:
Currently I have a slow connection (128Mb FR through Aquanet). When
this proxy will be up, please don't overload it; I hope to have ADSL
in Q1 of 2000, and then everything will be better. In addition, my
server is very weak and its disk is full (I planned to buy a real
server this week, but as you could guess from my previous message, it
is not a good idea, so it will be delayed by a week or two; Hopefully
it will save me $100-$200, or even more).

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More wealth monitoring

1999-12-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


LNUX is the stock ticker of VA Linux Systems, Inc. Closed on Friday at
$218 (IPO price $30). It was actually traded at $320 on Thursday. The
current market capitalization is $8,654.95M - that's 8.65 BILLION US
dollars. Not bad, not bad... Shall we send a collective congratulatory
email to Mr. Maddog  Co.?

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Off-Topic: SDRAM Prices

1999-12-12 Thread Eli Marmor

It's off-topic, but will save much money for some of you:

If you are going to spend money in the following days on a new
computer or to upgrade your memory, be ware: the SDRAM prices are
FALLING!

According to pricewatch.com, prices of 64MB reached $50, and 128MB -
$120 (all are for 100MHz, SDRAM, 7/8 ns, 8x64 or 16x64). These
prices reflect a drop of 60% (!) since October after the earth quake
in taiwan. In the last days, the drop is even stronger, and there is
a DAILY drop of 2%-3%. If there will not be another earth quake, and
Y2K bug will not run millions of buyers in the last week of 1999 and
the first week of 2000 to computer's stores, the prices are expected
to reach $40 (64MB) and $90 (128MB) very soon (not to mention that
Intel plans to cut prices drastically in mid January. But this is
another story, and still too far...).

Prices in Israel are still $100-$140 (64MB) and $200-$270 (128MB),
but are expected to become similar to the American prices soon (you
know, everything that happens there, is reaching Israel after a
short delay). So if you buy memory or a computer this week, demand
real prices, or delay your purchase a little if your seller insists
on these crazy prices.

Disclaimr: I'm not responsible for any damage, including results of
another earth-quake or Y2K. Gambling on prices is like gambling in a
Casino. Anyway, the current prices in Israel are crazy in any case,
and paying them is like loosing your money even without gambling.

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ON TOPIC - Looking for a job?

1999-12-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


http://linuxtoday.com/stories/13564.html

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Re: More wealth monitoring

1999-12-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


Of course I realize that these numbers are essentially BS. I think the
fact that the market is bullish on Linux is significant though. I
thought noting the numbers was appropriate, so I did.

A colleague of mine put it quite succinctly - here's a snippet of our
email exchange, which just about sums it up for me (I don't quote his
name, so I don't think I have to ask for his permission):

   Yahoo still is over 3 times as big as RHAT and LNUX
   combined, and M$FT is 5 times larger than that. Still, M$FT is the
   only valuation that isn't total garbage (it is the company that is
   total garbage instead)
  
  Well, shall we short?
  
 
 we, maybe not :-)

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Re: wrote hebrew general FAQ

1999-12-12 Thread Ely Levy

not true we have here both emacs and vi writing and reading documants in
hebrew and even have limited printing option (soon to come our hebrew
page;)

llp

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University 
Jerusalem Israel



On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Nadav Har'El wrote:

|  Hey guys, how about some constructive comments for a change? Have better
|  ideas? (I know I would have suggested using LaTeX with Hebrew).
|  
|  I have a constructive idea: someone with Microsoft Word (e.g., Moran),
|  please save this document as Postscript (in Windows: "print to file", using
|  a postscript printer). We can all view Postscript files, right?
|  
|  Right now, postscript (or pdf) files are the only portable way we have
|  of seeing Hebrew documents. Of course, it's only for seeing documents, not
|  editing them, but it's an important first step.
|  
|  On Sun, Dec 12, 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about "Re: wrote hebrew general FAQ":
|   o.k.
|  
|   asuming I have linux and want to install hebrew, then
|  
|   1. faq in doc format ? do not have microsoft word !
|   2. faq in html in hebrew: i do not have hebrew yet ( or why do i need
|   this faq if I do)
|   3. assuming i only have hebrew fonts installed, this faq is in logical
|   hebrew, so I see it in the wrong direction.
|  
|   sorry, I couldn't read the faq so I can't comment on it.
|  
|   regards
|   Erez.
|  
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Re: [Fwd: [BUGTRAQ] Big problem on 2.0.x?]

1999-12-12 Thread Moran

hi,
who use 2.0.X this days.
just upgrade to 2.2.13 kernel.

Moran Zavdi.

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Ben-Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: James Olin Oden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Omer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: éåí øàùåï 12 ãöîáø 1999 21:24
Subject: Re: [Fwd: [BUGTRAQ] Big problem on 2.0.x?]



The answer is download.xs4all.nl:/pub/mirror/redhat-updates

 - yba

On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, James Olin Oden wrote:

 
  What are you talking about?
 
  RH contrib? Some other site where you can get kernels
  packaged as RPMs?
 
  We're talking about an enterprise environment here,
  OFFICIAL RH errata. Whether or not this is the right
  way to go, this is where people look.
 
  Why don't you head on over to
  ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/updates/5.2/i386/
  (a respectable RH mirror site, no doubt) and check what kernel version
  they have in stock. The site is updated, there is nothing wrong with
  it. The official RH errata does indeed contain only kernel 2.0.36.
 
 Actually, when it comes to older realeases such as RH 5.x, then do
 not expect even ftp.cdrom.com to be upto date.  Until about two months
 ago, one of our servers was running the RH 5.2 distribution.  A little
 before we made the conversion to RH 6.1 yet another exploit was found in
 the wu-ftpd daemon.  At the time, it was really hard to get a connection
 to updates.redhat.com.  So I went looking around for a mirror that still
had
 the RH 5.2 stuff.  Well, I got to ftp.cdrom.com and downloaded the
wu-ftdp
 errata file they had, and installed it without checking its version (a
 VERY dumb thing to do )-: ).  Unfortunately, it happened to be something
 older than the rpm I was already using.  This really hosed things as you
 might imagine.  Eventually I got conencted to updates.redhat.com, and
 downloaded the correct version with the fix for the exploit.

 The moral is that mirrors often times may have the a distro's early
realeases,
 but they are probably only truely mirroring the current release.

 ..james

  Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
  
   Well, if YOU CHECK you will find that there are RPM's for kernel
2.0.38
   for redhat 5.x - compiled and ready.
  
   Just rpm -Uvh kernel-2.0.38(whatever the name is) and thats it..
  
   Hetz
  
   Omer wrote:
   
Irrelevant.
   
Most people will not upgrade the kernel on their own
to the latest stable version, but rather would only
upgrade using the official vendor errata. This is how
it is for all of the big-time operating systems, and
since Linux is poised to make it to the big time, you
have to expect this practice to become a lot more common.
   
To which: Say you're a RH user, using 5.x.
   
You will be using RedHat's errata updated for 5.2.
   
The latest kernel included is 2.0.36, not patched
to fix this.
   
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

 It fixed long time ago on kernel 2.0.38

 Hetz

 Omer wrote:
 
  This was posted to BugTraq today, and it seemed
  important enough to pass on (even though if you are
  a sysadmin and do not regularly read BT, you might
  deserve what you get).
 
  It's what I'd call a HUGE problem, not
  merely a big problem (unless of course you have
  no local users). In any case, I'd chmod u-s /bin/ping
  immediatly, and be careful not to ping as root (if
  you're not sure you're up to it, better make it
  chmod 000 /bin/ping :)
 
  Message to BT follows...
 

 --
--
 
  Eduardo Cruz wrote:
 
  Hello ppl.
 
 
  Last week i was playing with my old linux 2.0.36 i486 box,
while i was
  playing with the command ping and trying combinations of
commands
  i found that when u do a ping -s 65468 -R  ANYIPADDRESS ( -R
record
  route) the system starts to print on the screen kernel dumps
  , freezes complitely and after few secconds the system reboots.
 
  The major problem with this (if this is a bug, because i dont
have time
  to install differents kernels and test it better) is that
command can be
  run by everyone
  because you dont need root permissions to make a -R.
 
  I tested this on a 2.0.35 and .36 (both slackware), when u try
to do this
  on a 2.2.x the system prints out "message too long".
  I think the problem is that there is a size-check missed when u
reach the
  maximun packet size and u put the route information, but anyway
  i am not a guru on kernels.
 
  So, now is time for the kernel experts :)
 

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Re: wrote hebrew general FAQ

1999-12-12 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Sun, Dec 12, 1999, Ely Levy wrote about "Re: wrote hebrew general FAQ":
 not true we have here both emacs and vi writing and reading documants in
 hebrew and even have limited printing option (soon to come our hebrew
 page;)
 
 Ely Levy
 
 On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 
...
 |  Right now, postscript (or pdf) files are the only portable way we have
 |  of seeing Hebrew documents. Of course, it's only for seeing documents, not
 |  editing them, but it's an important first step.

Look again at what you wrote: "we have HERE both emacs and vi...". Is this
what you call PORTABLE? If you send your output to some Joe running out-of-
the-box Redhat distribution, do you think he'll be able to view them? Telling
him to "get this-and-that software, run xterm -fn heb8x13, click M-x
show-me-this-file-in-Hebrew in emacs..." is a chicken and egg problem if
your document is an introduction to Linux :)

So, until we have an out-of-the-box Hebrew distribution (this is what Ivrix
hopes to be), if you want your documents to be viewable by *anybody*, you'll
need to pick a format like Postscript or PDF that is viewable by *anybody*.
Of course, it doesn't matter how you create these files: I'll use Hebrew
Latex 2.09, You'll use MS-Word, or whatever, until one program is good
enough to get the attention of all Hebrew writers. Of course, it's always
best to have your documents in multiple formats, and let your users choose.
The US DOJ keeps the (interim) judgement against MS on their site in
Word-Perfect format - I wonder why not MS-Word :)

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Re: [Fwd: [BUGTRAQ] Big problem on 2.0.x?]

1999-12-12 Thread Eli Marmor

Hi Moran,

Moran wrote:

 Date:  Wed, 1 Jan 1997 08:01:24 +0200 
 ...
 who use 2.0.X this days.
 just upgrade to 2.2.13 kernel.

And who uses ancient dates these days?  And even before Y2K hits us ;-)
Just upgrade your date to Sun Dec 12 19:56:05 IST 1999...

BTW: The same problem is known (for Solaris systems) for at least one
year.
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Re: wrote hebrew general FAQ

1999-12-12 Thread Eli Marmor

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 [now that I see Eli's suggestion to use CAWABANGA -

Ira's suggestion, not mine (though I agree).

 what format do you
 need as the source: logical hebrew html?

Whatever: Visual, Semi-Logical, Full-Logical, Unicode, etc.
You even don't have to put a meta tag (it can be guessed automatically).

  Is the one produced by word OK?]

No; Only open standards.

But in any case, as I wrote, it's not yet there.

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Just getting security paranoid

1999-12-12 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

While I never declared myself a security expert :), I've seen
security experts who secured his machine by changing his /etc/issue
message to print some nonexistent Linux distro name. I doubt he knows
much about ipchains, capabilities, and such, but - dunno - I'm not too
much into the hax0rs scene, so, could it be that his strategy is in fact
better than mine? Could it be that setting traps to address the average
hacker is actually better than doing stuff The Right Way?
Anyone knows the hacking/kiddies world a little better? What do they
look for? Where do they usually update from?

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Re: Just getting security paranoid

1999-12-12 Thread Omer

They probably scan packetstorm on a daily basis (ever
since rootshell stopped updating, they re-discovered
ps it seems :), browse through BugTraq for l33t new 'xploits, and
cruise NTBugTraq as well.

I suppose the averege script kiddie likes to use automated tools
(read: no-brainers), so it's a good idea to have your logs
scanned for such commong things (for instance, /etc/shadow
as part of a URL in your httpd logs - I see tons of those).

Seems like the latest craze is TFN and Trinoo (or Trin00 if
you're c00l), and other such distributed attack tools. But
you might be kind of defenseless unless it is your own
network used to attack you.

Actually TFN is a pretty cool idea.

Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
 
 While I never declared myself a security expert :), I've seen
 security experts who secured his machine by changing his /etc/issue
 message to print some nonexistent Linux distro name. I doubt he knows
 much about ipchains, capabilities, and such, but - dunno - I'm not too
 much into the hax0rs scene, so, could it be that his strategy is in fact
 better than mine? Could it be that setting traps to address the average
 hacker is actually better than doing stuff The Right Way?
 Anyone knows the hacking/kiddies world a little better? What do they
 look for? Where do they usually update from?
 
 --
 Best regards,
 Ilya Konstantinov a.k.a Toastie
 [http://toast.demon.co.il]
 
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thanks

1999-12-12 Thread Moran




Hi,
first of all thank you everyone for 
the feedback.
im 
glad there are some who like what i try to do.
im getting comments from people 
everywhere
(irc/mail/this group)
its good.

Tzafrir you got the general idea and 
this is important because many didnt.

the idea of this faq is that its not intended for 
people who allready installed linux and knows what it is.

this FAQ is come to give descent answer to people 
who want to know what is Linux what it is require and etc.

I know that
http://warp.efnet.org/linux is broken it is because my server got attack that called 
DoS attack. all the ports are closed but port 80.
http://www.doshelp.org
so i cant really do anything till i reinstall new 
linux.

Tzafrir you mentioned alot of important questions, 
ill probably add most of them when ill install the new linux RedHat 
v6.1

www.linux.org.il is pointing to gilad and he 
said he is the only one who translating currently so there arent any translated 
articles about linux.

you all should allways remember when 
you read my translated FAQ (and how-to's soon)
1. its 
very very hard translating. hebrew is hard.
2. im disturbing copys of pre Release so you can 
tell your comments, nothing final yet.
3. dont get pissed when you see its currently only 
doc format and word html format. at this point of time i prefer first doing FAQ 
that will be good and answer the most of questions that asked regulary before 
spending hours on final design.

again remember its not easy at all. so emails 
like:
i use linux 
i dont have hebrew fonts.
so i cant help you unless you make english 
faq.

or

i use linux and win2000.
but i cant read this fonts so fix it.

such emails not really help but waste my time 
:)

so be patience.

Tzafrir and everyone again thank you for the feedback.
ill work on those comments you all 
said.
probably will have next version at next weekend.

 Moran 
ZavdiWarp Security Response 
Team. [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Connecting to remote host with the same user password

1999-12-12 Thread Iftach Hyams

 Hi list
  I'm working on a linux station, but for the development environment I
 need to work on our SUN OS. To do that I'm using  "rsh -l username
 remotename"
  It works fine but I have to enter the password. I declared the same user
 name,
 user ID and group ID, but I can't get him to use my local machine's
 password.
  Is it possible ?
 
   Thanks

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Re: Connecting to remote host with the same user password

1999-12-12 Thread Moran Zavdi

Hi,
the file .rhosts in your directory will allow you elogin without enter
password each time.

Moran Zavdi
 Warp Security Response Team.
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-Original Message-
From: Iftach Hyams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   12  1999 15:58
Subject: Connecting to remote host with the same user  password


 Hi list
  I'm working on a linux station, but for the development environment I
 need to work on our SUN OS. To do that I'm using  "rsh -l username
 remotename"
  It works fine but I have to enter the password. I declared the same user
 name,
 user ID and group ID, but I can't get him to use my local machine's
 password.
  Is it possible ?

   Thanks

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Linux for Alpha dec - HELP !

1999-12-12 Thread Chaim Zadok


Can anyone please burn for me Linux for Alpha dec.
I am trying to save the misery of a Win NT -  Alpha Computer ...
If anyone can help instructing It will be accepted with a lot of
appritiation.

thanks.

Haim 



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Re: Just getting security paranoid

1999-12-12 Thread Moran

hi,
so what you actually say is that if i scan your  network from us shell that
is hacked and not on my name that i telneted from .dk university shell that
has 20 users minimum 24hrs a day telnetd anotheeer free shell that have 50
users minimum on line telneted from my box you or anyone can trace it ?
or you say you can trace my real ip from http logs after i used 4 different
proxy server that support freedom on the internet ?
if some hacker really use the hidiing methods i just wrote youll never know
who scanned/hacked your site
and putted ugly web page
i 0wN j00 all
and in worse case made rm to what he didnt liked.

 Moran Zavdi
 Warp Security Response Team.
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From: Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: ILUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: éåí ùðé 13 ãöîáø 1999 01:12
Subject: Re: Just getting security paranoid

On the other side, it might be good to put some trap if you want to
identify and catch someone, but most sysadmins has much more to do than
investigate every portscan. You may install a tool like logcheck and maybe
some other abacus tools, which will tell you about "strange" things
happening, and install some integrity control that would watch your files
(like tripwire). This probably would help about unskilled attacker (I have
no experience with _this_ stage of being attacked, so I cannot say much).

IK Anyone knows the hacking/kiddies world a little better? What do they
IK look for? Where do they usually update from?

Well, when I was a sort of script kiddie (long time ago...) I looked the
same places I do now - Bugtraq (and its NT cousin), rootshell, CERT,
"hacker" conferences and sites, IRC, social engineering, various vendor's
security alerts, and basically everything marked "security".
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Re: Linux for Alpha dec - HELP !

1999-12-12 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

You may want to give a test to SuSE 6.1 Alpha. Heard it's pretty damn
good one...

Hetz


Chaim Zadok wrote:
 
 Can anyone please burn for me Linux for Alpha dec.
 I am trying to save the misery of a Win NT -  Alpha Computer ...
 If anyone can help instructing It will be accepted with a lot of
 appritiation.
 
 thanks.
 
 Haim
 
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Re: [Fwd: [BUGTRAQ] Big problem on 2.0.x?]

1999-12-12 Thread erez

some people do not want to upgrade their distribution because it will mean a
lot of work
updating their scripts. and to move from 2.0.x to 2.2.x you need to upgrade a
lot ...

it took me for instance, a lot of time to upgrade my server from 2.0.36 (rh5.2)
to 2.2.x (rh6.1)

regards
erez


Moran wrote:

 hi,
 who use 2.0.X this days.
 just upgrade to 2.2.13 kernel.

 Moran Zavdi.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Ben-Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: James Olin Oden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Omer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 Linux-IL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:   12  1999 21:24
 Subject: Re: [Fwd: [BUGTRAQ] Big problem on 2.0.x?]

 
 The answer is download.xs4all.nl:/pub/mirror/redhat-updates
 
  - yba
 
 On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, James Olin Oden wrote:
 
  
   What are you talking about?
  
   RH contrib? Some other site where you can get kernels
   packaged as RPMs?
  
   We're talking about an enterprise environment here,
   OFFICIAL RH errata. Whether or not this is the right
   way to go, this is where people look.
  
   Why don't you head on over to
   ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/updates/5.2/i386/
   (a respectable RH mirror site, no doubt) and check what kernel version
   they have in stock. The site is updated, there is nothing wrong with
   it. The official RH errata does indeed contain only kernel 2.0.36.
  
  Actually, when it comes to older realeases such as RH 5.x, then do
  not expect even ftp.cdrom.com to be upto date.  Until about two months
  ago, one of our servers was running the RH 5.2 distribution.  A little
  before we made the conversion to RH 6.1 yet another exploit was found in
  the wu-ftpd daemon.  At the time, it was really hard to get a connection
  to updates.redhat.com.  So I went looking around for a mirror that still
 had
  the RH 5.2 stuff.  Well, I got to ftp.cdrom.com and downloaded the
 wu-ftdp
  errata file they had, and installed it without checking its version (a
  VERY dumb thing to do )-: ).  Unfortunately, it happened to be something
  older than the rpm I was already using.  This really hosed things as you
  might imagine.  Eventually I got conencted to updates.redhat.com, and
  downloaded the correct version with the fix for the exploit.
 
  The moral is that mirrors often times may have the a distro's early
 realeases,
  but they are probably only truely mirroring the current release.
 
  ..james
 
   Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
   
Well, if YOU CHECK you will find that there are RPM's for kernel
 2.0.38
for redhat 5.x - compiled and ready.
   
Just rpm -Uvh kernel-2.0.38(whatever the name is) and thats it..
   
Hetz
   
Omer wrote:

 Irrelevant.

 Most people will not upgrade the kernel on their own
 to the latest stable version, but rather would only
 upgrade using the official vendor errata. This is how
 it is for all of the big-time operating systems, and
 since Linux is poised to make it to the big time, you
 have to expect this practice to become a lot more common.

 To which: Say you're a RH user, using 5.x.

 You will be using RedHat's errata updated for 5.2.

 The latest kernel included is 2.0.36, not patched
 to fix this.

 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 
  It fixed long time ago on kernel 2.0.38
 
  Hetz
 
  Omer wrote:
  
   This was posted to BugTraq today, and it seemed
   important enough to pass on (even though if you are
   a sysadmin and do not regularly read BT, you might
   deserve what you get).
  
   It's what I'd call a HUGE problem, not
   merely a big problem (unless of course you have
   no local users). In any case, I'd chmod u-s /bin/ping
   immediatly, and be careful not to ping as root (if
   you're not sure you're up to it, better make it
   chmod 000 /bin/ping :)
  
   Message to BT follows...
  
 
  --
 --
  
   Eduardo Cruz wrote:
  
   Hello ppl.
  
  
   Last week i was playing with my old linux 2.0.36 i486 box,
 while i was
   playing with the command ping and trying combinations of
 commands
   i found that when u do a ping -s 65468 -R  ANYIPADDRESS ( -R
 record
   route) the system starts to print on the screen kernel dumps
   , freezes complitely and after few secconds the system reboots.
  
   The major problem with this (if this is a bug, because i dont
 have time
   to install differents kernels and test it better) is that
 command can be
   run by everyone
   because you dont need root permissions to make a -R.
  
   I tested this on a 2.0.35 and .36 (both slackware), when u try
 to do this
   on a 2.2.x the system prints out "message too long".
   I think the problem is that there is a size-check missed when u
 reach the
   maximun packet size and u put the