fort77 and g77 (f77) in RedHat 6.1

2000-05-17 Thread N Sakthivel


Hai,

I have installed RedHat Linux 6.1 in my machine. It has g77
compiler. But I want to have fort77 compiler also in the same machine.
fort77 does not come in RedHat 6.1. So what I have done is

1. I used the RedHat 5.2 CDROM and using RPM i have installed the g2c
modules and fort77 modules.

2. Now I am getting the fort77 script in /usr/bin directory and the man
pages also.

3. I made a 4 line program to check it out. It compiles without showing
any error.

4. If I execite the executable, I am getting

segmentation fault (core dump)


The Question is:

?1. Can I install fort77 from RedHat 5.2 in already installed RedHat 6.1
machine? Is there any common (name) library files both for fort77 (version
5.2) and g77 (version 6.1).

?2. If so how do I install fort77 in RedHat 6.1? Can any one say the way
to do the same.

?3 Is there any URL for details.

?4 If I want to get the latest fort77 from website, where is it available?


Thanking You in Advance

N. Sakthivel
Institute for Plasma Research
Bhat, Gandhinagar - 382 428
India 



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Re: fort77 and g77 (f77) in RedHat 6.1

2000-05-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

N Sakthivel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 1. I used the RedHat 5.2 CDROM and using RPM i have installed the g2c
 modules and fort77 modules.

I suppose you meant f2c, not g2c.

 ?1. Can I install fort77 from RedHat 5.2 in already installed RedHat 6.1
 machine? Is there any common (name) library files both for fort77 (version
 5.2) and g77 (version 6.1).
 
 ?2. If so how do I install fort77 in RedHat 6.1? Can any one say the way
 to do the same.

fort77 is a perl script that invokes f2c and gcc transparently, it is
not a compiler, it does not need any special libraries, as long as you
have f2c and a C compiler and libraries installed . You can have both
fort77 and g77 without a problem.  Use rpmfind or another utility to
search for the laters RPM or SRPM to install on Red Hat.

 
 ?3 Is there any URL for details.
 
 ?4 If I want to get the latest fort77 from website, where is it available?

Just fire up Google...

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Re: Apologize

2000-05-17 Thread Omer Mussaev

Game Wizard wrote:

 Hi!

 I am terrybly sorry, but to my previos mailDO NOT click on that lame
 signature about free videos. I got on that site and it changed virtually
 every config in my system. Luckily I spotted that out and removed it.

Well, I have only one comment on this sad story:
GET A REAL OS, for value of REAL in {SunOS, BSD, Linux, IRIX}.

and be shamed for not using linux when it is actually easier to install and
use than windows N, for random values of windows and N.

 Some people will do anything to promote themselves, even violate laws of
 privacy.

As they always did and will do. Business model is not an excuse for
ignorance, though.

 Blessed be,

i will :)


   GW.


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Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic

2000-05-17 Thread Alon Barzilai

about the line:
consider using something bezek calls "kav timsoret".
this is an E1 line that is much cheaper than sifranet, even of you 
do not use all of it.
netvision would not let you connect with such a line because bezek will 
not let them, but with barak, you can.

you can ask barak for more details.

Alon.


Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
 
 Hi All
 Im sorry that the Q is not about Linux but I think that this is the most
 proper list to ask, as I know people over this list have interest in
 such matters.
 
 Im considering to connect to Barak with Sifranet.
 Any one have recommendation or suggestion about why yes or why not to do
 this ?
 Or other way to ask: Am I doing the right thing ?
 
 Im now connected to netvision, and im looking for speed ( obviously  :-)
 
 --
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 Internet Service Providers
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 Tel: 972-6-6925757
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Re: fort77 and g77 (f77) in RedHat 6.1

2000-05-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Wed, 17 May 2000, N Sakthivel wrote:

 
 Hai,
 
   I have installed RedHat Linux 6.1 in my machine. It has g77
 compiler. But I want to have fort77 compiler also in the same machine.
 fort77 does not come in RedHat 6.1. So what I have done is
 
 1. I used the RedHat 5.2 CDROM and using RPM i have installed the g2c
 modules and fort77 modules.

 2. Now I am getting the fort77 script in /usr/bin directory and the man
 pages also.
 
 3. I made a 4 line program to check it out. It compiles without showing
 any error.
 
 4. If I execite the executable, I am getting
 
   segmentation fault (core dump)
 
 
 The Question is:
 
 ?1. Can I install fort77 from RedHat 5.2 in already installed RedHat 6.1
 machine? Is there any common (name) library files both for fort77 (version
 5.2) and g77 (version 6.1).

Using rpmfind (actually - the web browser interface). Have a look at:
http://rpmfind.net/Linux/RPM/fort77.html

(for another package: substitute "fort77" with that package name)

As you can see it appears, among others, in RedHat PowerTools 6.2 .

Generally RH's PowerTools are official packages, that were left out of the
installation CD because there was not enough room. If you have RH6.2 you
should first try to use packages from RH6.2 or RH PowerTools 6.2 .

Chances are that it also is part of PowerTools for 6.1, and that the 6.1
powertools simply don't appear in that reposiroty. Try any (complete) RH
mirror.

 ?2. If so how do I install fort77 in RedHat 6.1? Can any one say the way
 to do the same.
 
 ?3 Is there any URL for details.

If you can't find any using a web search (a 2-minutes search yealded
nothing for me) you can try downloading the source rpm for that package
(again - from a full RH mirror) and looking at the spec for this package.
It usually states where the source is taken from.
 
 ?4 If I want to get the latest fort77 from website, where is it available?

HTH

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Motif is now Open Source

2000-05-17 Thread Dilog Mail

Take a look at

http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/


and enjoy.

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TOD server for Linux or Solaris

2000-05-17 Thread Nir Simionovich \(Rin Solo\)

Hi All,

  I need a TOD server for Linux or Solaris, but something other than the
standard one shipped with the OS. Those give us hell.
Any ideas ?

Best regards,
  Nir Simionovich
  artNET Experts, Ltd.
  Security  Systems Consultant
  Israel
  http://www.artnet.co.il


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Re: looking for a laptop

2000-05-17 Thread Gal Shalif

Hello,

A very hi end and expensive machine is the IBM ThinkPad 600E.
At my company we install Debian 2.1 and RedHat 6.1 on two of this
machines.

Here are some references that I was using.

Linux on laptop
   http://linuxlaptops.com/ - Linux Laptops Home
   http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/#specific_models - Linux on 
Laptops
   http://www.msys.ch/~marc/linux_tp600/ - http://www.msys.ch/~marc/linux_tp600/
   http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/ - Linux on the IBM ThinkPad
   http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ - Linux on Laptops
   http://www.msys.ch/~marc/linux_tp600/
   http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/#specific_models - Linux on 
Laptops
   http://www.cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de/~krumeich/linux-on-tp600.html - Linux on 
ThinkPad 600
   http://www.vitinc.com/~marc/linux.html - Thoughts on the Penguin...
   http://svr-www.eng.cam.ac.uk/~ajr/TP600Debian.html - Installing Debian Linux on a 
ThinkPad 600E: Tony Robinson
   http://www.levien.com/tp600.html - Linux on IBM ThinkPad 600
   http://www.snafu.de/~wehe/Laptop-HOWTO.html - Linux Laptop-HOWTO
   http://www.dgs.monash.edu.au/~greg/linux.html - IBM ThinkPad 600



Excerpt of message (sent 16 May 2000) by Noam Ben Haim:
 Hi list!
 
 I'm planning on getting a laptop real soon, and I'd like it to dual boot to
 winNT and Linux.
 if you have any recommendations regarding the machine manufacturer, model
 and parts, I'd love to hear them
 
 have fun
 noam
 noam ben haim
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RE: Motif is now Open Source

2000-05-17 Thread Chen Shapira


 Take a look at
 
 http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/
 

No it isn't.
http://www.linuxprogramming.com/news/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-05-17-001-03-
CD

The source is avaliable only for "free software" platform, this doesn't
conform to the open source definition - so it isn't open source.

Besides - motif sucks.

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Re: Motif is now Open Source

2000-05-17 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Wed, May 17, 2000, Chen Shapira wrote about "RE: Motif is now Open Source":
 
  Take a look at
  
  http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/
  
 
 No it isn't.
 http://www.linuxprogramming.com/news/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-05-17-001-03-
 CD
 
 The source is avaliable only for "free software" platform, this doesn't
 conform to the open source definition - so it isn't open source.

It doesn't conform to the "open source" definition of opensource.org, but
you can't argue that now you can get the source freely on your Linux machine -
previously you couldn't. In fact, on non-free OS's you always had Motif on
it because the distributers of these UNIX OSs bought motif licenses. So I
don't think it's fair to judge their new license scheme.

The Open Group claim that the current free-os-only license is only temporary,
and that they are hoping to change it to a "real" open source one soon.

 Besides - motif sucks.

Look, Motif has its share of problems: it's very difficult to program (with
the standard Xt-like functions in C), Motif 1.2 lacked a few important widgets
(but 2.1 should not, I think). It's (actually Xt's) object-orientation-like
is a bit annoying. But all in all, it's not *that* bad. I've done some nice
things with it, and though there are toolkits I like better (my favorite
being Tcl/Tk), it deserves it's credit. There are several important applications
using Motif, like DDD and Netscape (which converted to GTK only because a
free motif did not exist. The free-os is a non-issue here too, because
commercial os's have motif share libraries anyway).

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Re: Motif is now Open Source

2000-05-17 Thread Dilog Mail

Chen Shapira wrote:
 
  Take a look at
 
  http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/
 
 
 No it isn't.
 http://www.linuxprogramming.com/news/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-05-17-001-03-
 CD
 
 The source is avaliable only for "free software" platform, this doesn't
 conform to the open source definition - so it isn't open source.
 
 Besides - motif sucks.

1. Others have commented about the incorrect links; I simply truncated
the link to what I showed above and
it got me there.

2. Motif may not be as easy to use an Win32 (which I have never used) or
the OS/2 PM which I have used.
None of these provide the networking model underlying X, and Motif as a
widget set, seems no better or no morse than either of the former. I
would recommend that anyone interested, should take a look at the the
relevant discussion on the O'Reilly site (www.oreilly.com). I would
agree that the Xlib/Xt/Motif libraries could use
a bit of an API facelift at the very least to the level of C++ wrapper
classes (which is not that difficult).

3. The issue of the openness of the source has been addressed in the
above news story, and it is not final. Motif is however, sufficiently
"open", for interested developers to consider where to go next, and
application programmers like me, to find out how certain things of
interest are done.

4. Whether I am right or not, the (very professional) remark, that
"motif sucks" is not very helpful.

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Sangoma frame relay cards where to get cables?

2000-05-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Hi,

I need a cable for a Sangoma frame relay card (DB-25 to V.35). Does anyone
know who has them in stock?

Thanks, Geoff.
-- 
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Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic

2000-05-17 Thread Alon Barzilai

about the line:
consider using something bezek calls "kav timsoret".
this is an E1 line that is much cheaper than sifranet, even of you 
do not use all of it.
netvision would not let you connect with such a line because bezek will 
not let them, but with barak, you can.

you can ask barak for more details.

Alon.


Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
 
 Hi All
 Im sorry that the Q is not about Linux but I think that this is the most
 proper list to ask, as I know people over this list have interest in
 such matters.
 
 Im considering to connect to Barak with Sifranet.
 Any one have recommendation or suggestion about why yes or why not to do
 this ?
 Or other way to ask: Am I doing the right thing ?
 
 Im now connected to netvision, and im looking for speed ( obviously  :-)
 
 --
 --
 Canaan Surfing Ltd.
 Internet Service Providers
 Ben-Nes Michael - Manager
 Tel: 972-6-6925757
 Fax: 972-6-6925858
 http://www.canaan.co.il
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Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic

2000-05-17 Thread Mike Almogy

Hi.

You CAN'T use Bezeq SONET/SDH (i don't remember what they are using here)
Fiber Rings :-(((
In order to be able to connect to that network you need to have a license
like Barak - license as en international communication dealer (or something
like this).

Few month ago we tried to connect to it and that was the reply we got.

Try using more optional resources like ATM or Sifranet.

Regards,

Mike


Mike Almogy.
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Subject: Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic


 about the line:
 consider using something bezek calls "kav timsoret".
 this is an E1 line that is much cheaper than sifranet, even of you
 do not use all of it.
 netvision would not let you connect with such a line because bezek will
 not let them, but with barak, you can.

 you can ask barak for more details.

 Alon.


 Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
 
  Hi All
  Im sorry that the Q is not about Linux but I think that this is the most
  proper list to ask, as I know people over this list have interest in
  such matters.
 
  Im considering to connect to Barak with Sifranet.
  Any one have recommendation or suggestion about why yes or why not to do
  this ?
  Or other way to ask: Am I doing the right thing ?
 
  Im now connected to netvision, and im looking for speed ( obviously  :-)
 
  --
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  Canaan Surfing Ltd.
  Internet Service Providers
  Ben-Nes Michael - Manager
  Tel: 972-6-6925757
  Fax: 972-6-6925858
  http://www.canaan.co.il
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Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic

2000-05-17 Thread Alon Barzilai

well, I can and I do. ( if we mean the same line,and it is fiber)
barak orders those lines for their clients.
Im not sure about other ISPs, but as far as I know,
only barak,nezek binleumi  and kavey zahav can order those lines.

Alon

Mike Almogy wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 You CAN'T use Bezeq SONET/SDH (i don't remember what they are using here)
 Fiber Rings :-(((
 In order to be able to connect to that network you need to have a license
 like Barak - license as en international communication dealer (or something
 like this).
 
 Few month ago we tried to connect to it and that was the reply we got.
 
 Try using more optional resources like ATM or Sifranet.
 
 Regards,
 
 Mike
 
 Mike Almogy.
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 Subject: Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic
 
  about the line:
  consider using something bezek calls "kav timsoret".
  this is an E1 line that is much cheaper than sifranet, even of you
  do not use all of it.
  netvision would not let you connect with such a line because bezek will
  not let them, but with barak, you can.
 
  you can ask barak for more details.
 
  Alon.
 
 
  Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
  
   Hi All
   Im sorry that the Q is not about Linux but I think that this is the most
   proper list to ask, as I know people over this list have interest in
   such matters.
  
   Im considering to connect to Barak with Sifranet.
   Any one have recommendation or suggestion about why yes or why not to do
   this ?
   Or other way to ask: Am I doing the right thing ?
  
   Im now connected to netvision, and im looking for speed ( obviously  :-)
  
   --
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   Internet Service Providers
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   Tel: 972-6-6925757
   Fax: 972-6-6925858
   http://www.canaan.co.il
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Sound Fonts with timidity

2000-05-17 Thread Pavel Bibergal


Hi all
in man timidity i read that timidity support soundfout
but i didn't find any swithc that allow me to use it..
can anyone help me?
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 The state of mind of elderly persons with whom one happens to disagree.



linux on OmniBook 4150

2000-05-17 Thread Mike Almogy



Hi.
Does any one here ever heard if it possible to 
install linux (kde and gnome workstation mainly) on HP OmniBook4150 
?

Another thins, if i want to use MagicBoot and not 
LILO, what should i do ?
Is it possible ?


Thanks,

Mike



Motif open-sourced

2000-05-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


I think this might be of general interest...

Eli, will it be easier on you? IIRC there were some Motif-related
licensing issues you complained about in the past...

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 And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare.

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Today, May 15, 2000, The Open Group  released the source code of Motif
2.1.30 to the Open Source community. The Open Group Public license will
allow the release of the Motif source code for use, reproduction and
distribution on Open Source platforms such as Linux and FreeBSD, without
the payment of royalties. The further details and the source code for
Open Motif is now available at http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif.

Concurrent with this announcement, Integrated Computer Solutions, Inc.
(ICS), has released the "Open Motif Everywhere" distribution. In
creating this distribution, ICS has compiled and tested Open Motif on a
number of distributions including: Corel (Intel), FreeBSD (Intel), Linux
PPC 2000 (PPC), Mandrake (Intel), Red Hat (Intel, Sparc, Alpha),
Slackware (Intel), Storm 2000 (Intel), SuSE (Intel), and TurboLinux
(Intel).  RPMs, DEBs, and tar.gz are provided as appropriate for the
specific distribution. Although not specifically tested, other
distributions are also expected to work.

ICS is making the binaries and sources to Open Motif Everywhere
available for free downloads through ICS' new Motif portal site,
http://www.motifzone.net. The goal of the MotifZone is to provide a
center for open source enhancements to Open Motif.

A CD-ROM distribution, containing all precompiled binaries, Open Motif
source code, postscript versions of the official Motif 2.1 Manual set
and email installation support is available through the MotifZone
(http://www.motifzone.net) too. Annual support contracts are offered for
commercial customers.

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Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic

2000-05-17 Thread Mike Almogy

Yes i know, that you can do.
but it is actually barak line, not yours.
there is a difference.

Mike

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From: "Alon Barzilai" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mike Almogy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Alon Barzilai" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Linux-il" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic


 well, I can and I do. ( if we mean the same line,and it is fiber)
 barak orders those lines for their clients.
 Im not sure about other ISPs, but as far as I know,
 only barak,nezek binleumi  and kavey zahav can order those lines.

 Alon

 Mike Almogy wrote:
 
  Hi.
 
  You CAN'T use Bezeq SONET/SDH (i don't remember what they are using
here)
  Fiber Rings :-(((
  In order to be able to connect to that network you need to have a
license
  like Barak - license as en international communication dealer (or
something
  like this).
 
  Few month ago we tried to connect to it and that was the reply we got.
 
  Try using more optional resources like ATM or Sifranet.
 
  Regards,
 
  Mike
 
  Mike Almogy.
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  - Original Message -
  From: "Alon Barzilai" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Ben-Nes Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: "ILUG" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 11:12 AM
  Subject: Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic
 
   about the line:
   consider using something bezek calls "kav timsoret".
   this is an E1 line that is much cheaper than sifranet, even of you
   do not use all of it.
   netvision would not let you connect with such a line because bezek
will
   not let them, but with barak, you can.
  
   you can ask barak for more details.
  
   Alon.
  
  
   Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
   
Hi All
Im sorry that the Q is not about Linux but I think that this is the
most
proper list to ask, as I know people over this list have interest in
such matters.
   
Im considering to connect to Barak with Sifranet.
Any one have recommendation or suggestion about why yes or why not
to do
this ?
Or other way to ask: Am I doing the right thing ?
   
Im now connected to netvision, and im looking for speed ( obviously
:-)
   
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Re: Motif is now Open Source

2000-05-17 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

DM http://www.opengroup.org/openmotif/

Ah, I know. They decided to copy glaring success of Mozilla project. 

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Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic

2000-05-17 Thread Arie Vayner

Hi

The bandwidth problems with netvision are almost history, so just stick
around for a few weeks and you will be happy you have (trust me - I
realy know!)

Also, you can order a Kav Timsoret from Netvision too - no problem at all.
It's a 2MB line, which is not terminated by DSUs and goes through a
different path than Sifranet. You can get such a line (2M) but get less
actual bandwidth (like 1M) and it's cheaper than a 1M Sifranet.

---
Arie Vayner

On Wed, 17 May 2000, Alon Barzilai wrote:

 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 10:19:00 +0200
 From: Alon Barzilai [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Ben-Nes Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: ILUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ISP Q/Not Linux Topic
 
 about the line:
 consider using something bezek calls "kav timsoret".
 this is an E1 line that is much cheaper than sifranet, even of you 
 do not use all of it.
 netvision would not let you connect with such a line because bezek will 
 not let them, but with barak, you can.
 
 you can ask barak for more details.
 
 Alon.
 
 
 Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
  
  Hi All
  Im sorry that the Q is not about Linux but I think that this is the most
  proper list to ask, as I know people over this list have interest in
  such matters.
  
  Im considering to connect to Barak with Sifranet.
  Any one have recommendation or suggestion about why yes or why not to do
  this ?
  Or other way to ask: Am I doing the right thing ?
  
  Im now connected to netvision, and im looking for speed ( obviously  :-)
  
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  --
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  Internet Service Providers
  Ben-Nes Michael - Manager
  Tel: 972-6-6925757
  Fax: 972-6-6925858
  http://www.canaan.co.il
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Re: Hebrew fonts Type1

2000-05-17 Thread Gavrie Philipson

- Original Message -
From: Pavel Bibergal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linuxlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 10:57 PM
Subject: Hebrew fonts Type1


 does anyone here has hebrew type1 fonts?

The only *good quality* Hebrew Type1 fonts I have found, apart from buying
fonts which is pretty expensive, is the ones bundled with OS/2. Try to get
an old (legal) copy of OS/2 that no one uses, you'll have all the "standard"
Hebrew fonts.

Gavrie.


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Re: linux on OmniBook 4150

2000-05-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi Mike,

Feeling a bit lazy today, ain't you? :)

Anyway, here are the necessary links for your HP OmniBook 4150:

http://www.m20.net/~tango/linux/ob4150install.html
http://www.nixu.fi/~tsilven/linux/hp4150.html
http://www.wien.netsurf.at/franz.fiala/omni4150.html

Enjoy,
Hetz

 Mike Almogy wrote:
 
 Hi.
 Does any one here ever heard if it possible to install linux (kde and
 gnome workstation mainly) on HP OmniBook4150 ?
 
 Another thins, if i want to use MagicBoot and not LILO, what should i
 do ?
 Is it possible ?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mike
 

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Re: linux on OmniBook 4150

2000-05-17 Thread Mike Almogy

thanks :-)
not lazy at all, i just wanted to know if anyone has install linux on it.

BTW, i wanted to ask this for a long time, is it possible to have problems
with KDE on 3 different computers that runs RedHat6.2 ?

the problem keep happening,i can't use any kde programs when i use GNOME and
i can't start kde at all. (core dump)

Is there any "bug" ?

Mike

(i'm not subscribe on bugtrap or anything.. and i'm not planing to so
all those who has any comments about me going to find it by myself,
don't...)

- Original Message -
From: "Hetz Ben Hamo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mike Almogy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Linux-il" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: linux on OmniBook 4150


 Hi Mike,

 Feeling a bit lazy today, ain't you? :)

 Anyway, here are the necessary links for your HP OmniBook 4150:

 http://www.m20.net/~tango/linux/ob4150install.html
 http://www.nixu.fi/~tsilven/linux/hp4150.html
 http://www.wien.netsurf.at/franz.fiala/omni4150.html

 Enjoy,
 Hetz

  Mike Almogy wrote:
 
  Hi.
  Does any one here ever heard if it possible to install linux (kde and
  gnome workstation mainly) on HP OmniBook4150 ?
 
  Another thins, if i want to use MagicBoot and not LILO, what should i
  do ?
  Is it possible ?
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mike
 

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Re: [eddiea@math.tau.ac.il: RE: Lectures on Linux for Beginners] (fwd)

2000-05-17 Thread Shaul Karl

 Hello Shaul,
 
   I got the 1st opint from Roy. About the second issue, I will be glad
 to arrange activities in school of math (room, projector and so on) - if you
 want desert - that is on you. About the lecture - I can give it. I am
 dealing with mainly communication issues. I can give lecture from defining
 network card to nat and packet filtering. the question is - What do you
 need?
 
 Eddie


Thank you for your efforts.
About the topic, it is hard to tell since the expected audience is very 
diverse. Personally I am looking for the more advanced topics although I am 
not sure I am not trying to have it all and consequently left with nothing.

I am ccing this to linux-il. Hopefully you will receive some replies that will 
be better then mine and help you know the intended audience better.

In any case, can I say for sure that the next linux-il meeting will be held on 
Friday, June 2nd in TAU; that you will be the speaker and that only the exact 
topic is to be determined?

Are there any more issues to discuss in the meeting? I believe that there are 
people who want to discuss the state of the linux-il web site, or am I being 
confused with the agenda of the previous meeting?
 

 Hello Shaul,
 
   I got the 1st opint from Roy. About the second issue, I will be glad
 to arrange activities in school of math (room, projector and so on) - if you
 want desert - that is on you. About the lecture - I can give it. I am
 dealing with mainly communication issues. I can give lecture from defining
 network card to nat and packet filtering. the question is - What do you
 need?
 
 Eddie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Shaul Karl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:05 PM
 To: Eddie Aronovich
 Subject: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: Lectures on Linux for Beginners] (fwd)
 
 
   Hello,
 Roi Hadar forward me your email since he is too busy lately with other
 things 
 (both related and not related to linux-il).
 1) How to join IGLU? IGLU is a non officail org. And by that I mean that 
 actually who ever heard about IGLU, read the mailing list and sees himself
 as 
 member is member.
 2) Leaving aside the location question for the moment, when will you be able
 
 to organize a lecture? What do you mean by "organizing"? Getting a room? 
 lecturing yourself? Find someone to lecture?
   
   Thank you.
 
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 Subject: RE: Lectures on Linux for Beginners
 Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 17:12:02 +0200 
 
 Hello Roy,
 
   I am happy to get the information about your activities. I will
 arrange the posibility to make the meetings at Schriber building which
 belongs to math and cs department on Fridays after we finish some remonte
 works (probably by end of June).
 
   As well - I want to arrange some more advanced lectures about Linux
 and Communication (like kdev, net/3 and so on). If you are interest please
 let me know (as well how to joing the IGLU - not only the mailing list).
 
 
 Bye,
 Eddie
 
 - -Original Message-
 From: Roi Hadar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 12:28 PM
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 Subject: Lectures on Linux for Beginners
 
 
 Shalom.
 
 The Israeli GNU/Linux Usergroup is organizing a lecture series on Linux for
 beginners. The lectures will take place at Dach Hall, on Sunday evenings at
 19:00.
 
 The 

the SGI Linux day

2000-05-17 Thread Ira Abramov


I saw very few familiar faces, all in all there were two lectures that
were REALLY worth attending, and those were the ones about XFS, CXFS and
the one about Clustering. unfortunately I missed thos two, but I
understand Omer Musaev and maybe others were there. can anyone supply us
with some digested memes to feed our hunger for info?

I'm happy with ReiserFS now, what will XFS bring? will it work with LVM
and other 2.4 features?

what's CXFS all about? I understand it requires very special (read -
expensive, propriatary) hardware setups too, what's the story?

Clustering - what are they offering beyond the basic Beowulf package?

thanks in advance.

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Re: the SGI Linux day

2000-05-17 Thread Ira Abramov

On Thu, 18 May 2000, Moshe Zadka wrote:

 On Thu, 18 May 2000, Ira Abramov wrote:
 
  I'm happy with ReiserFS now, what will XFS bring? will it work with LVM
  and other 2.4 features?
 
 What's the status of Journalling FS's right now? Can they be used for
 production work?
 Also, do you thinkit is possible to set up an NFS/Journalling FS combo,
 for a "safe" file server?

as far as I understand there are still problems with NFS over ReiserFS
(hadn't tried) and the only production system I heard of that uses it
was one installed by Marc, and his advice was "stay away!". it's not all
there yet, but for a home machine it's fine. I would even go as far as
to install a mail or news server on it I suppose, but nothing that needs
accessing through NFS. too risky.

as for XFS, that's why I placed here the question in the first place :-)

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Re: the SGI Linux day

2000-05-17 Thread Evgeny Zemlerub



 I'm happy with ReiserFS now, what will XFS bring? will it work with LVM
 and other 2.4 features?
Pretty much most of the stuff that they were telling about  XFS are pretty
much as
stuff that in ReiserFS.
Regarding LVM : they are going to use it, but i didn't understood wether
they are
porting LVM from IRIX and will use it, or will use LVM that presents in 2.4



 Clustering - what are they offering beyond the basic Beowulf package?
Pretty nice tools for controlling remotly cluster :
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ace/
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/pcp/

and for HA clusters :
http://oss.sgi.com/projects/failsafe/

+ bunch of other OSS and commercial tools bundled together on CD

Regards,
Evgeny

PS. 2 more things :
a) variable block sizes from 4k up to 64k
b) "constat space filling" to prevent fragmentation


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