Re: PPP Dialin server

2000-10-24 Thread Shaul Karl

> HI all
> can anyone explain to me how can i make a PPP dialin server in linux?


1) IIRC, the PPP-HOWTO used to answer this question.
2) One possibility is to use mgetty to handle the dial in clients. mgetty (or 
is it a patched version of mgetty) will make the necessary interactions with 
pppd. Of course you have to set the config files properly for that.
e-mail me if you want me to post some readme files about this setting.


> thank you
> Pavel Bibergal
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Re: KDE 2.0 final & the Israeli aspect

2000-10-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

Hi

I'm still waiting for my computer to be connected so I can install KDE2...

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> > > I'm moving to KMail and I got a mess here). Don't forget to remove the
> > > directory from with the chkfontpath and adding it again - and restarting the
> > > xfs (stop and start - restart doesn't seem to work)
> > 
> > For which distros is chkfontpath availble? I saw it included in the
> > helix-gnome packages for no reason aparent to me. I know it originally
> > comes with RH 6.x and above (and with Mandrake 6.x and above).
> 
> I'm using at work Redhat 6.1 and 6.2 on 2 machines, and I haven't played
> much with Xfree 4.0. Redhat comes with chkfontpath - That I know. About
> others - donno.
> 
> > Did XFree 4 adopt anything similar? If not, what's the standard way for
> > adding a fonts dir to the fonts path?
> 
> If I recall correctly from my last installation of XFree 4 (it was from
> CVS source tree), then I think you got a "mkfontdir" command.

ttmkfdir was a replacement for mkfontdir . It extracts font data from
files in the directory and allow you to create fonts.dir . It does not
manipulate the FontPath, naturally.

> > > * Hebrew keys - acking problem. I asked lots of times if someone couldmove
> > > his/her butt and write a small text file how to switch - no body volunteered
> > > to do that. tuff luck. In case someone is still interested - KDE 2.0 got this
> > > hackcalled kxkb which is a "front end" to xkb...
> > 
> > Hmmm...
> > I wrote my description at: http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/56.html (or
> > actually http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/86.html )
> > 
> > It works fine for me (on XFree 3.3.6, which is what I have)
> > 
> > I have also tried to answer some questions regarding this, when they came
> > up, See:
> > 
>http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2845374&msg_id=2845374
> > 
> > 
>http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2814349&msg_id=2814349
> > 
> > And also a couple of times in private mail.
> 
> I'm looking at the addresses u gave in IOL - but I see that those are
> problems...

Yes, but see the questions I asked in my replies. You can read those.

but see below...

> 
> Ilya played this evening with my KDE 2 machine at work, but so far I
> cannot type in Hebrew. Perhaps once you'll have KDE 2.0 installed on
> your machine - u could test your configuration

Xkb has nothing to do with KDE. It has nothing to do with X clients. It is
handled by the X server.

It may differ from XFree 3 to XFree 4, but it does not care which X cleint
(including window manager and desktop manager) you run .

> > 
> > I have almost never got any followups to my replies. This means that
> > either my reply was good enough, or that the one who asked the question
> > did not have the time to refer to it.
> > 
> > Again, it works great for me...
> 
> But not for me :(

Try http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/86.html (you may have to hit "reload
on this page, as well as some others).

P.S. Thanks for all the work you have put into KDE2. I'm really looking
forward to try it at home...

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Re: NTP Question.

2000-10-24 Thread Shaul Karl

> Hi...
> 
> How can i setup a Linux RH 6.2 box to sync time with a Solaris 2.6 box. if
> not possible... then with another linux..
> (the Solaris is currently syncing with other Solarises.)
> 


As you have already hinted, you can set some machine, be it Solaris or Linux 
to be an ntp server and then have the other machines as its ntp clients. I do 
not know how easy this setting is, especially setting the server. Yet there is 
a great deal of documentation for the ntp package.
Assuming that each machine has an Internet connectivity, an easier solution 
might be to have all the machines as client for some accurate ntp server on 
the net.
Any other solutions?


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Re: your mail)LinModems)

2000-10-24 Thread Sagi Bashari

I have HSP (PcTel) winmodem working under linux. Lucnets modems are
working too.

You can find those drivers at: http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html.

(if you're using linux2.2.15+ you might have to use ppp module from an
older kernel)

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, dgi_il wrote:

> a win modem is a 56K modem. They are very small (the main card is very thin)
> and they cost very cheap. Why because they lack one of most expensive
> componentes the processor. instaed they use the CPU fpr small operations
> (like opening the compresssion  which the modem has, error corrections etc).
> 
> WinModems need a special driver (which mostly are not included in the win9x
> distro).
> They are not supported under  linux (exept zoltrix LinModem which I have
> working under linux)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: dx3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: your mail
> 
> 
> > > Is it a winmodem?
> > > If yes, either you are out of luck, or you need to upgrade to a more
> > > recent version (today there is RedHat 7.0), which may be having a driver
> > > for the modem.
> > >
> > > - how can i know if its a winmodem?
> >
> >
> > You might be interested in http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
> and
> > http://www.linmodems.org/.
> >
> >
> > > - and which files i need to burn to a CD to Upgrade my Version?
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Re: KDE 2.0 final & the Israeli aspect

2000-10-24 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi Tzafrir, others...

> (I presue that by TTF you mean unicode.)
> 
> But in an erlier post you siad that the browser will be able to use
> iso-8859-8 (iso8 for short) fonts (as opposed to the other components.

You can use the ISO-8859-8 fonts for Logical and Visual. Yes. 

In fact, before you gave me your fonts.dir/fonts.alias script - I had
only 1 Unicode font which produces some cubes :)

> 
> Is there any unicode font included in XFree4, which includes Hebrew
> glyphs? Be it un ugly fixed font, It still much easier to read than
> gibrish.

I Don't know. My AMD 800Mhz machine is officialy dead and I need to send
it back for replacement, so I cannot test XFree 4.0 yet, so I really
don't know about XFree 4.0 - I haven't played enough with it. Perhaps
some people could elaborate on this issue?

> 
> For example, mozilla's default config for X is to use the "fixed" font for
> the iso8 codepage, because one such font comes with XFree (I believe it
> comes from X11). So Heberw text in mozilla looks ugly until you change
> that (it was a bit difficult with M16, with happened to crash at that
> point :( ), but you could read Hebrew sites even with standard fonts.

Donno. I'm not using Mozilla.

> 
> >
> > * If you want to use the hebrew menus - you'll need to replace the fonts.dir
> > which redhat (if you use redhat) creates and create another one fonts.dir and
> > fonts.alias with Tzafrir's script (Tzafrir? could u republish the URL please?
> 
> I put it in:
> ftp://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Install/ttmkfdir-heb
> 

Good :)

> > I'm moving to KMail and I got a mess here). Don't forget to remove the
> > directory from with the chkfontpath and adding it again - and restarting the
> > xfs (stop and start - restart doesn't seem to work)
> 
> For which distros is chkfontpath availble? I saw it included in the
> helix-gnome packages for no reason aparent to me. I know it originally
> comes with RH 6.x and above (and with Mandrake 6.x and above).

I'm using at work Redhat 6.1 and 6.2 on 2 machines, and I haven't played
much with Xfree 4.0. Redhat comes with chkfontpath - That I know. About
others - donno.

> Did XFree 4 adopt anything similar? If not, what's the standard way for
> adding a fonts dir to the fonts path?

If I recall correctly from my last installation of XFree 4 (it was from
CVS source tree), then I think you got a "mkfontdir" command.

> 
> Does debian has any program to manipulate the font path for the X server?
> Does Caldera? SuSE?
> 

Good question :)

> >
> > * Pages like walla will look "" if you don't select from the encoding the
> > ISO-8859-8-i or the CP1255 encoding. For visual pages - select the ISO-8859-8
> > (like Haaretz, IOL, Tapuz, Internet Zahav etc..)
> 
> 
> Have a look at Haaretz and IOL's HTML pages.
> They mark their HTML pages as:
> 
> Instead of using what defined in the HTML standard:
> 
> 
> (or have I got it worng)

I talked to Lars about it and it's been implemented and you can see
Haaretz and IOL perfectly. 

> 
> If you want to see a real ironic example of such problematic charset
> marking, have a look at:
> http://www.snunit.k12.il/heb_new.html#html
> 

I checked the pages earlier - it looks perfect with konqueror.

> 
> Back to topic: Lars, Hetz: anyway I can configure konquerer to identify
> those marks as iso-8859-8 charset pages?

No need, it's automatically :)

> 
> >
> > * There are some glitches here and there - specially with numbers and "makaf"
> > near them - they look in reverse. Known problem which will be fixed any day
> > now. Also, Walla lower part of the main page is alligned to the left - known
> > problem. There are other known problems which are being taken care of and
> > hopefully will be fixed by the time KDE 2.0.1 will be out (which will be
> > around 1 month from now) - but 90% of the web  pages looks great in Hebrew
> >
> > * Hebrew keys - acking problem. I asked lots of times if someone couldmove
> > his/her butt and write a small text file how to switch - no body volunteered
> > to do that. tuff luck. In case someone is still interested - KDE 2.0 got this
> > hack called kxkb which is a "front end" to xkb...
> 
> Hmmm...
> I wrote my description at: http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/56.html (or
> actually http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/86.html )
> 
> It works fine for me (on XFree 3.3.6, which is what I have)
> 
> I have also tried to answer some questions regarding this, when they came
> up, See:
> 
>http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2845374&msg_id=2845374
> 
> 
>http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2814349&msg_id=2814349
> 
> And also a couple of times in private mail.

I'm looking at the addresses u gave in IOL - but I see that those are
problems...

Ilya played this evening with my KDE 2 machine at work, but so far I
cannot type in Hebrew. Perhaps once you'll have KDE 2.0 installed on
your machine - u could test your configuration

> 
> I have 

Re: your mail)LinModems)

2000-10-24 Thread dgi_il

a win modem is a 56K modem. They are very small (the main card is very thin)
and they cost very cheap. Why because they lack one of most expensive
componentes the processor. instaed they use the CPU fpr small operations
(like opening the compresssion  which the modem has, error corrections etc).

WinModems need a special driver (which mostly are not included in the win9x
distro).
They are not supported under  linux (exept zoltrix LinModem which I have
working under linux)

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From: Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: dx3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: your mail


> > Is it a winmodem?
> > If yes, either you are out of luck, or you need to upgrade to a more
> > recent version (today there is RedHat 7.0), which may be having a driver
> > for the modem.
> >
> > - how can i know if its a winmodem?
>
>
> You might be interested in http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
and
> http://www.linmodems.org/.
>
>
> > - and which files i need to burn to a CD to Upgrade my Version?
> >
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Re: linux installation on multi OS system

2000-10-24 Thread Shlomi Fish

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Yedidya Bar-david wrote:

> Hi
> 
> If you want, you can boot linux without lilo.
> Copy loadlin.exe (should be on your CD somewhere), and your kernel
> (should be in /boot/vmlinuz or something) to your windows ME, than,
> when you want to boot linux, do
> loadlin  root= e.g.
> loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6

The problem with that is that It's possible that Windows ME does not have
a DOS mode and thus cannot run loadlin. It appeared on Slashdot once so
I'm not absolutely sure about that fact.

Regards,

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Re: KDE 2.0 final & the Israeli aspect

2000-10-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Well, as you may know or not know - KDE 2.0 final will be out tonight.

> Hebrew: 
> * For viewing Logical and Visual pages - you'll need true type font's - elmar 
> fonts look specially ugly (no offense Eli - I know that what you could 
> release as free) so you'll need some fonts from your Windows partition and 
> add them to your Linux (I'm not going to explain how to do it - as always - 
> RTFM).

(I presue that by TTF you mean unicode.)

But in an erlier post you siad that the browser will be able to use
iso-8859-8 (iso8 for short) fonts (as opposed to the other components.

Is there any unicode font included in XFree4, which includes Hebrew
glyphs? Be it un ugly fixed font, It still much easier to read than
gibrish.

For example, mozilla's default config for X is to use the "fixed" font for
the iso8 codepage, because one such font comes with XFree (I believe it
comes from X11). So Heberw text in mozilla looks ugly until you change
that (it was a bit difficult with M16, with happened to crash at that
point :( ), but you could read Hebrew sites even with standard fonts.

> 
> * If you want to use the hebrew menus - you'll need to replace the fonts.dir 
> which redhat (if you use redhat) creates and create another one fonts.dir and 
> fonts.alias with Tzafrir's script (Tzafrir? could u republish the URL please? 

I put it in:
ftp://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Install/ttmkfdir-heb

> I'm moving to KMail and I got a mess here). Don't forget to remove the 
> directory from with the chkfontpath and adding it again - and restarting the 
> xfs (stop and start - restart doesn't seem to work)

For which distros is chkfontpath availble? I saw it included in the
helix-gnome packages for no reason aparent to me. I know it originally
comes with RH 6.x and above (and with Mandrake 6.x and above).
Did XFree 4 adopt anything similar? If not, what's the standard way for
adding a fonts dir to the fonts path?

Does debian has any program to manipulate the font path for the X server?
Does Caldera? SuSE?

> 
> * Pages like walla will look "" if you don't select from the encoding the 
> ISO-8859-8-i or the CP1255 encoding. For visual pages - select the ISO-8859-8 
> (like Haaretz, IOL, Tapuz, Internet Zahav etc..)


Have a look at Haaretz and IOL's HTML pages.
They mark their HTML pages as:

Instead of using what defined in the HTML standard:


(or have I got it worng)

If you want to see a real ironic example of such problematic charset
marking, have a look at:
http://www.snunit.k12.il/heb_new.html#html


Back to topic: Lars, Hetz: anyway I can configure konquerer to identify
those marks as iso-8859-8 charset pages?

> 
> * There are some glitches here and there - specially with numbers and "makaf" 
> near them - they look in reverse. Known problem which will be fixed any day 
> now. Also, Walla lower part of the main page is alligned to the left - known 
> problem. There are other known problems which are being taken care of and 
> hopefully will be fixed by the time KDE 2.0.1 will be out (which will be 
> around 1 month from now) - but 90% of the web  pages looks great in Hebrew
> 
> * Hebrew keys - acking problem. I asked lots of times if someone couldmove 
> his/her butt and write a small text file how to switch - no body volunteered 
> to do that. tuff luck. In case someone is still interested - KDE 2.0 got this 
> hack called kxkb which is a "front end" to xkb...

Hmmm...
I wrote my description at: http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/56.html (or
actually http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/86.html )

It works fine for me (on XFree 3.3.6, which is what I have)

I have also tried to answer some questions regarding this, when they came
up, See:
http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2845374&msg_id=2845374

http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2814349&msg_id=2814349

And also a couple of times in private mail. 

I have almost never got any followups to my replies. This means that
either my reply was good enough, or that the one who asked the question
did not have the time to refer to it.

Again, it works great for me...

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Re: KDE 2.0 final & the Israeli aspect

2000-10-24 Thread Boaz Rymland

Eli Marmor wrote:
> 
> Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> 
> > Hebrew:
> > * For viewing Logical and Visual pages - you'll need true type font's - elmar
> > fonts look specially ugly (no offense Eli - I know that what you could
> 
> "Offense"?  Why?  This is what I've always said...
> Anyway, let me fix you nevertheless: Instead of "TrueType", you should
> write "Scalable". There are two types of scalable fonts supported by
> current X (after ignoring Speedo): Type1 and TrueType. While the Windows
> fonts are TrueType, my fonts are Type1. The requirement is not for
> TrueType in particular, but for scalable.
> 
> In any case, I think Hetz deserves a "Yshar-Koach".
> --
> Eli Marmor
> 

As I work a room next to Hetz I propose myself for giving him a literal (rather
than virtual) "chapcha" from all of Israeli Linux users! that will be my modest
contribution to the community! ;-)

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Re: Usual fee for translating articles? (Was: Reshet is looking for LinuxExperts)

2000-10-24 Thread Marc A. Volovic

Shaul Karl wrote:

> Can anyone tell how much money one can ask for this kind of work?

Normal rate USED to be about 30NIS/page.

>
> > the magazine RESHET - COMPUTERS & COMMUNICATION is looking for a linux
> > expert to translate articles on linux from English to Hebrew.
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Usual fee for translating articles? (Was: Reshet is looking for LinuxExperts)

2000-10-24 Thread Shaul Karl

Can anyone tell how much money one can ask for this kind of work?


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> To: Chen Shapira
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> 
> 
> hello,
> the magazine RESHET - COMPUTERS & COMMUNICATION is looking for a linux
> expert to translate articles on linux from English to Hebrew.
> pls. contact: rani miron tel: 051 724668
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a great LINUX resource

2000-10-24 Thread solomon

Hi,

I just found this site:

http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-06/websites_01.html   

For anyone who's not familiar with it, it's very good. Here's a quote
from the page:



Linux Magazine's 100 Best Linux Web Sites 

After a few months of poking and prodding and occasionally even randomly
clicking around every Linux site we could find, there are a few inescapable
conclusions to be made: 1) There are a lot of Linux-related sites out there.
2) You don't need to know about every single one. In fact, you can probably
get by with just a hundred. So, for the benefit of those of you who are
looking to beef up your bookmark files, we present "The Linux Magazine
100 Best Linux Web Sites." --Editors


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Re: OFF

2000-10-24 Thread Marc A. Volovic

"Nimrod S. Carmi" wrote:

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> Sorry to say that in here, but I really want ... *NEED* sorry to get off
> this mailing list and I did so and even got a confirmation reply that im
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Re: KDE 2.0 final & the Israeli aspect

2000-10-24 Thread Eli Marmor

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> Hebrew:
> * For viewing Logical and Visual pages - you'll need true type font's - elmar
> fonts look specially ugly (no offense Eli - I know that what you could

"Offense"?  Why?  This is what I've always said...
Anyway, let me fix you nevertheless: Instead of "TrueType", you should
write "Scalable". There are two types of scalable fonts supported by
current X (after ignoring Speedo): Type1 and TrueType. While the Windows
fonts are TrueType, my fonts are Type1. The requirement is not for
TrueType in particular, but for scalable.

In any case, I think Hetz deserves a "Yshar-Koach".
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Re: how to work with CVS?

2000-10-24 Thread Boaz Rymland

> Fialckove OR wrote:
> 
> hi
> 
> i need to work with cvs
> 
> how do i get the list of files that in the server?
> how do i upload file?
> how di i replace file?
> 
> thanks
> Or Fialckove
> Kde Israel

I've got the perfect answer for you, IMHO. No kiddin':

http://www.red-bean.com/~kfogel/cvs-intro.html

I know. It might not be as immediate as you expect. But still, it might be the
best short intro to CVS on the web.

Good luck,
Boaz.

BTW, there was a thread or two lately here about CVS documentation. you might
wanna browse them in Linux-IL archives:
http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/

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NTP Question.

2000-10-24 Thread Benji Selano

Hi...

How can i setup a Linux RH 6.2 box to sync time with a Solaris 2.6 box. if
not possible... then with another linux..
(the Solaris is currently syncing with other Solarises.)

Thanks In Advnace.
Benji

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Re: how to work with CVS?

2000-10-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef



> Fialckove OR wrote:
> i need to work with cvs
> 
> how do i get the list of files that in the server?
> how do i upload file?
> how di i replace file?


It's very dependent on how the CVS is setup. Using pserver? using rsh?
local copy?

The general theme is:

"cvs checkout module_name" will grab from the server the module (=top
level directory) you want.

"cvs add filename; cvs commit" will upload a file.

change a file and then "cvs commit" will update (replace) a file.

For all these commands to work you need to have a CVSROOT enviorment
variable defined and you need to be logged in (I assume you're using
pserver setup)

type: "export CVSROOT=":pserver:username@servername:/path/to/cvsroot" to
define the CVSROOT and then "cvs login" and enter you're passwod when
requested.

Hope this helps,
Gilad.

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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Ely Levy

8 8 after my vote;)


Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University 
Jerusalem Israel



On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Alex Shnitman wrote:

|  Hi, Shlomi!
|  
|  On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 11:06:46AM +0200, you wrote the following:
|  
|  > Is it possible to remove the reply-to field only for people who wish not
|  > to have it? Hence, that one can send a message to linux-il-request with
|  > the body of "remove/add reply-to" in-order to have or not have this field.
|  >
|  > If our mailing-list manager have this feature, it might be a good
|  > solution.
|  
|  No, unfortunately it's not possible with Listar.
|  
|  By the way, the vote is now 8 against, 7 for. That's still too close
|  to a tie. I'll wait a couple more days.
|  
|  
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PPP Dialin server

2000-10-24 Thread Pavel Bibergal

HI all
can anyone explain to me how can i make a PPP dialin server in linux?
thank you
Pavel Bibergal

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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Genady Osnis wrote:

> /is it the header that made messages appier twice on the list ?
> If it is then I'm against it.

Not exactly. The problem is not with the header itself, but with the fact
that some people post to this list as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the reply-to
address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and some people "reply to all" to
those messages (intending to reply both to the original author and to the
list) and instead reply to both the list addresses.

This can be avoided if repliers are a bit more careful.

(Anyway, I'd vote against it for other reasons, that were already
discussed in previous messages.)

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Re: OFF

2000-10-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Test the headers of the mails you receive from the list (the second copy you
get from me). See which email they were delivered to.

It may be that you are unsubscribing the wrong email address.

Shachar


"Nimrod S. Carmi" wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> Sorry to say that in here, but I really want ... *NEED* sorry to get off
> this mailing list and I did so and even got a confirmation reply that im
> unsubscribed and yet I get all the mails!
> Can someone take me off ?
>
> Thanx!
>
> =---=
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> School Sucks
> http://www.schoolsucks.com
> http://www.schoolsucks.co.il
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OFF

2000-10-24 Thread Nimrod S. Carmi

Hey everyone,

Sorry to say that in here, but I really want ... *NEED* sorry to get off
this mailing list and I did so and even got a confirmation reply that im
unsubscribed and yet I get all the mails! 
Can someone take me off ?

Thanx!

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School Sucks
http://www.schoolsucks.com
http://www.schoolsucks.co.il
Phone: +972-5123-9910
Fax: +972-6651-5473


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Re: samba server.

2000-10-24 Thread Mike Almogy

Hi.

I manage to fix it.
i did not setup the paswords correctly.
Now it works great.

Thanks,
Mike

- Original Message -
From: "? ?" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: samba server.


>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike Almogy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: à 22 àå÷èåáø 2000 7:54
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: samba server.
> >
> > but then the server will not answer to authentication requests, no ?
> > I do not have any NT on my network and neither want one.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
>   No. You need the"logon server "  only if you want a
> NT-Domain_controller logons. It seems to me that you only want to have
your
> shares be avaliable to Win users. You need a SMB Server, but not PDC.
> For the first step try "security=share" ( WIN95 type), this is
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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Alex Shnitman

Hi, Joe!

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 01:51:27PM +0200, you wrote the following:

> If the reply to feild would only have the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" address
> in it, then I would be for it.

Don't reply here, go vote on the poll. That's what it's there for.


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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Joe

If the reply to feild would only have the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" address
in it, then I would be for it.

-Yossie

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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: reply-to field":
> It is.
> 
> Read  http://www.halisp.net/halisp/reply-to-harmful.html for complete
> details.
> 

Now Shachar, that's not fair... I thought no propaganda during the poll :(

As I said (and explained) previously, the opinions in the above mentioned
website are completely wrong (at least, in my opinion ;))

Just think for yourself - when you *usually* reply to a message in this mailing
list, where do you want the reply to go to?
 1) If you *usually* want the reply to go to the whole list, vote "Yes"
 2) If you *usually* want the reply to go only to the person who wrote
the message, vote "No".

I emphesise usually, because you can always do something special to get the
other kind of reply. The reply-to header is there (or not there) as a
convenience, not as some sort of religious artifact.

VOTE YES! (if Shachar is allowed, than so am I ;))

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Re: Dual Bootinf RedHat 6.2 with WinNT

2000-10-24 Thread Yedidya Bar-david

Hi

Look at the 'Linux+NT-Loader' mini-HOWTO (should be in /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini
on your PC).

bye,
didi

Oren Seliger wrote:
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> We have been having a lot of trouble setting up a dual boot system to boot
> both OS's.
> -  We have installed WinNT and then RedHat.
> -  RedHat overwrites the MBR and the LILO comes up.
>   * The LILO however does not recognize the NT. 
>   * The LILO comes up even though we specifically chose not to touch
> the MBR during the Redhat installation process. 
> - We want to boot into NT and use the boot.ini to select which platform we
> want to go into.
> 
> Any assistance will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Oren
> 
> Oren Seliger
> System Administrator
> Gilian Technologies Ltd.
> "Because in the digital economy you're only
>  as successful as your content  is credible"
> Web: www.gilian.com
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Re: Dual Bootinf RedHat 6.2 with WinNT

2000-10-24 Thread Omer Musaev

Oren Seliger wrote:

> We have been having a lot of trouble setting up a dual boot system to boot
> both OS's.
> -  We have installed WinNT and then RedHat.
> -  RedHat overwrites the MBR and the LILO comes up.
>   * The LILO however does not recognize the NT. 
>   * The LILO comes up even though we specifically chose not to touch
> the MBR during the Redhat installation process. 
> - We want to boot into NT and use the boot.ini to select which platform we
> want to go into.
> 
> Any assistance will be appreciated.

check active partition. Chances are that mbr is still intact, reffer to 
my last post on topic to further assitance

> Thanks,
> Oren
> 
> Oren Seliger
> System Administrator
> Gilian Technologies Ltd.
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>  as successful as your content  is credible"
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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh

It is.

Read  http://www.halisp.net/halisp/reply-to-harmful.html for complete
details.

Shachar

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> /is it the header that made messages appier twice on the list ?
> If it is then I'm against it.
>
> ---
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>
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> Subject: reply-to field
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Due to popular demand the Reply-To: field has been removed from the
> > mailing list postings.
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how to work with CVS?

2000-10-24 Thread Fialckove OR



    hi
 
i need to work with cvs
 
how do i get the list of files that in 
the server?
how do i upload file?
how di i replace file?
 
thanks
Or Fialckove
Kde Israel


Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Genady Osnis

/is it the header that made messages appier twice on the list ?
If it is then I'm against it.

---
Genady Osnis  E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hadera, Israel  ICQ: 6539492

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 6:18 PM
Subject: reply-to field


> Hi,
> 
> Due to popular demand the Reply-To: field has been removed from the
> mailing list postings.
> 
> 
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Dual Bootinf RedHat 6.2 with WinNT

2000-10-24 Thread Oren Seliger

We have been having a lot of trouble setting up a dual boot system to boot
both OS's.
-  We have installed WinNT and then RedHat.
-  RedHat overwrites the MBR and the LILO comes up.
* The LILO however does not recognize the NT. 
* The LILO comes up even though we specifically chose not to touch
the MBR during the Redhat installation process. 
- We want to boot into NT and use the boot.ini to select which platform we
want to go into.

Any assistance will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Oren

Oren Seliger
System Administrator
Gilian Technologies Ltd.
"Because in the digital economy you're only
 as successful as your content  is credible"
Web: www.gilian.com
Tel: 972-9-956-0036 x217
Fax:972-9-956-5668
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KDE 2.0 final & the Israeli aspect

2000-10-24 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Hi All,

Well, as you may know or not know - KDE 2.0 final will be out tonight.

Mandrake users, SuSE 7.0 users, Slackware users, and Caldera 2.4 users can 
download the packages right now from: 

ftp://ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/2.0

Redhat users will have to wait for the RPM's - as usual :)) - they are being 
uploaded as I write this email..

Please note - if you're installing those rpm's - your KDE 1.x configurations 
and applications will not be running - unless you grab the sources and 
compile them, and set the variables accordingly (QTDIR, KDEDIR, PATH, 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc - read the docs!)

Also, if you're compiling and installing - you'll need to spend some times to 
install the help as it requires doc++ and other stuff - so be prepared for 
some fun :)

If you're planning to use https connection - then you'll need OpenSSL 0.9.6 
installed on your machine - it supports all the standard SSL/SSH connections 
(I tried it on many Israeli and US sites and it works)

Hebrew: 
* For viewing Logical and Visual pages - you'll need true type font's - elmar 
fonts look specially ugly (no offense Eli - I know that what you could 
release as free) so you'll need some fonts from your Windows partition and 
add them to your Linux (I'm not going to explain how to do it - as always - 
RTFM).

* If you want to use the hebrew menus - you'll need to replace the fonts.dir 
which redhat (if you use redhat) creates and create another one fonts.dir and 
fonts.alias with Tzafrir's script (Tzafrir? could u republish the URL please? 
I'm moving to KMail and I got a mess here). Don't forget to remove the 
directory from with the chkfontpath and adding it again - and restarting the 
xfs (stop and start - restart doesn't seem to work)

* Pages like walla will look "" if you don't select from the encoding the 
ISO-8859-8-i or the CP1255 encoding. For visual pages - select the ISO-8859-8 
(like Haaretz, IOL, Tapuz, Internet Zahav etc..)

* There are some glitches here and there - specially with numbers and "makaf" 
near them - they look in reverse. Known problem which will be fixed any day 
now. Also, Walla lower part of the main page is alligned to the left - known 
problem. There are other known problems which are being taken care of and 
hopefully will be fixed by the time KDE 2.0.1 will be out (which will be 
around 1 month from now) - but 90% of the web  pages looks great in Hebrew

* Hebrew keys - acking problem. I asked lots of times if someone could move 
his/her butt and write a small text file how to switch - no body volunteered 
to do that. tuff luck. In case someone is still interested - KDE 2.0 got this 
hack called kxkb which is a "front end" to xkb...

I would like to thank the following people for helping:

* Lars Knoll - from QT (Trolltech) who has worked day and night to add Hebrew 
support.
* Tzafrir Cohen - for the hebrew efforts he did and does make..
* Aduva - my employee - for giving me such a great job and for letting me 
help as much as I can for the Linux community in Israel.
* And for all the others who helped me and the other users...

THANKS ALL...

Hetz

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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Alex Shnitman

Hi, Shlomi!

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 11:06:46AM +0200, you wrote the following:

> Is it possible to remove the reply-to field only for people who wish not
> to have it? Hence, that one can send a message to linux-il-request with
> the body of "remove/add reply-to" in-order to have or not have this field.
> 
> If our mailing-list manager have this feature, it might be a good
> solution.

No, unfortunately it's not possible with Listar.

By the way, the vote is now 8 against, 7 for. That's still too close
to a tie. I'll wait a couple more days.


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hashavshevet and sql server

2000-10-24 Thread erez

HI

Hashavshevet asked me for MS-SQL 7 on an NT server.
did anyone have experiance with using hashavshevet on a linux sql-server

( i.e. mysql,progresql etc ... )


waiting your answer ASAP

thanks
Erez.


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Re: linux installation on multi OS system

2000-10-24 Thread Omer Musaev

Lam, Yochai wrote:

> ok,up to here everything is fine with me.
> let me clarify my intentions:
> is lilo going to overide the ntldr and how can i preserve all systems 
> p.s. heared too many "it destroyed my XXX" stories

I think that ntldr is not stored on MBR, but here is a way to install lilo
so that it won't overwrite MBR and will coexist with ntldr.

you need to tell lilo to install itself on linux partition and not on MBR.
explanation:
your linux partition may be primary or logical. primamry partition has 
its own boot sector, logical
partition lacks one, but since logical partition resides on "extended" 
partiton, which has boot sector,
we can say that there is a boot sector for logical partition.

what you should do is telling lilo that you want lilo to install linux 
loader chain onto  linux partition
boot sector, in case your linux partiton is a primary partition, or on 
boot sector of extended partition
that holds your linux partition in case your linux partiton is a logical 
partition.

When you do do, you will have 2  boot sectors: one for windows partiton 
and one on linux partiton.
you can tell lilo to chain-load ntloader, thus making lilo primary boot 
loader and ntldr secondary,
or you can make ntldr to chain load lilo.

Reffer to http://iglu.org.il/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
to set up ntldr to load linux partition  with help of lilo.


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Re: linux installation on multi OS system

2000-10-24 Thread Yedidya Bar-david

Hi

If you want, you can boot linux without lilo.
Copy loadlin.exe (should be on your CD somewhere), and your kernel
(should be in /boot/vmlinuz or something) to your windows ME, than,
when you want to boot linux, do
loadlin  root= e.g.
loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6
(put all this in a .bat file, of course).
Then, when you feel comfortable with linux, go to
/usr/doc/lilo and read it's excelent docs.

didi

Lam, Yochai wrote:
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
> ok,up to here everything is fine with me.
> let me clarify my intentions:
> is lilo going to overide the ntldr and how can i preserve all systems 
> p.s. heared too many "it destroyed my XXX" stories
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mevorach, Assaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sun, October 22, 2000 9:08 AM
> To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: linux installation on multi OS system
> 
> 
> you need to make another partition at least 1.5 GB for the Linux OS and
> another partition for swap at the size of your RAM 
> with one of the partitioning tools that are available (I recommend with fibs
> which comes with the distribution)
> and then to install a boot loader LILO or GRUB in case that the other
> partition is far from the boot sectors.
> If you will follow the README's and do only thing you are fully understand
> their results, there will be no troubles.
> if you feel it is complicated you can always wait for the next installation
> party in the Technion (not far from Afula ;) )
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Lam, Yochai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:24 AM
> To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
> Subject: linux instalation on multi OS system
> 
> 
> hello !
> im intended to install linux mandrake 7.1 server on my computer.
> the computer has allready windows ME + windows NT station and windows NT
> server.
> can enyone tell me if im going to have troubles?
> should i install it on a FAT,NTFS, or create a new unix native partition?
> (got 8 GB raw disk area..)
> thanks for a quick reply !
> (p.s. if enyone close to afula wants to help,great food is promised on
> behalf of the house's madam!!)
> 
> 
> 
> Yochai Lam
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RE: Linux installation on multi OS system

2000-10-24 Thread Mevorach, Assaf

I used to work with NT + Win95 and Linux at home.
 NT loader was working fine with lilo
as far as I know NT loader is not on the mbr, and lilo is.  

-Original Message-
From: Lam, Yochai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:21 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: linux installation on multi OS system


ok,up to here everything is fine with me.
let me clarify my intentions:
is lilo going to overide the ntldr and how can i preserve all systems 
p.s. heared too many "it destroyed my XXX" stories

-Original Message-
From: Mevorach, Assaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sun, October 22, 2000 9:08 AM
To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
Subject: RE: linux installation on multi OS system


you need to make another partition at least 1.5 GB for the Linux OS and
another partition for swap at the size of your RAM 
with one of the partitioning tools that are available (I recommend with fibs
which comes with the distribution)
and then to install a boot loader LILO or GRUB in case that the other
partition is far from the boot sectors.
If you will follow the README's and do only thing you are fully understand
their results, there will be no troubles.
if you feel it is complicated you can always wait for the next installation
party in the Technion (not far from Afula ;) )

-Original Message-
From: Lam, Yochai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:24 AM
To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
Subject: linux instalation on multi OS system


hello !
im intended to install linux mandrake 7.1 server on my computer.
the computer has allready windows ME + windows NT station and windows NT
server.
can enyone tell me if im going to have troubles?
should i install it on a FAT,NTFS, or create a new unix native partition?
(got 8 GB raw disk area..)
thanks for a quick reply !
(p.s. if enyone close to afula wants to help,great food is promised on
behalf of the house's madam!!)



Yochai Lam
networking management
dev.dept.kla-tencor israel
hatikshoret 4 st.ramat gavriel
migdal haemek.
israel
972-6-6449482 (+voice)
972-58-531689 (cell.)
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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread haggai

In that case, 2 mailing lists with 7 users in each.

Haggai Sachs.


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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: reply-to field


> In such a case, we split the list into two (like the split between newbies
> and oldtimers), and people will crosspost to both of them, and people will
> subscribe to both of them, and will get each message 2-3 times anyway.
>
> [Ducking into cover]
>
>  --- Omer
> WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  see at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>
> > Ok, so as for this minute (after my vote), the result is tied (7 in
favour, 7
> > against).
> >
> > What happens if that remains the situation?
> >
> > Shacahr
>
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RE: linux installation on multi OS system

2000-10-24 Thread Lam, Yochai

ok,up to here everything is fine with me.
let me clarify my intentions:
is lilo going to overide the ntldr and how can i preserve all systems 
p.s. heared too many "it destroyed my XXX" stories

-Original Message-
From: Mevorach, Assaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sun, October 22, 2000 9:08 AM
To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
Subject: RE: linux installation on multi OS system


you need to make another partition at least 1.5 GB for the Linux OS and
another partition for swap at the size of your RAM 
with one of the partitioning tools that are available (I recommend with fibs
which comes with the distribution)
and then to install a boot loader LILO or GRUB in case that the other
partition is far from the boot sectors.
If you will follow the README's and do only thing you are fully understand
their results, there will be no troubles.
if you feel it is complicated you can always wait for the next installation
party in the Technion (not far from Afula ;) )

-Original Message-
From: Lam, Yochai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:24 AM
To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
Subject: linux instalation on multi OS system


hello !
im intended to install linux mandrake 7.1 server on my computer.
the computer has allready windows ME + windows NT station and windows NT
server.
can enyone tell me if im going to have troubles?
should i install it on a FAT,NTFS, or create a new unix native partition?
(got 8 GB raw disk area..)
thanks for a quick reply !
(p.s. if enyone close to afula wants to help,great food is promised on
behalf of the house's madam!!)



Yochai Lam
networking management
dev.dept.kla-tencor israel
hatikshoret 4 st.ramat gavriel
migdal haemek.
israel
972-6-6449482 (+voice)
972-58-531689 (cell.)
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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Shlomi Fish


Is it possible to remove the reply-to field only for people who wish not
to have it? Hence, that one can send a message to linux-il-request with
the body of "remove/add reply-to" in-order to have or not have this field.

If our mailing-list manager have this feature, it might be a good
solution.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish



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RE: linux installation on multi OS system

2000-10-24 Thread Mevorach, Assaf

you need to make another partition at least 1.5 GB for the Linux OS and
another partition for swap at the size of your RAM 
with one of the partitioning tools that are available (I recommend with fibs
which comes with the distribution)
and then to install a boot loader LILO or GRUB in case that the other
partition is far from the boot sectors.
If you will follow the README's and do only thing you are fully understand
their results, there will be no troubles.
if you feel it is complicated you can always wait for the next installation
party in the Technion (not far from Afula ;) )

-Original Message-
From: Lam, Yochai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2000 8:24 AM
To: Linux-Il (E-mail)
Subject: linux instalation on multi OS system


hello !
im intended to install linux mandrake 7.1 server on my computer.
the computer has allready windows ME + windows NT station and windows NT
server.
can enyone tell me if im going to have troubles?
should i install it on a FAT,NTFS, or create a new unix native partition?
(got 8 GB raw disk area..)
thanks for a quick reply !
(p.s. if enyone close to afula wants to help,great food is promised on
behalf of the house's madam!!)



Yochai Lam
networking management
dev.dept.kla-tencor israel
hatikshoret 4 st.ramat gavriel
migdal haemek.
israel
972-6-6449482 (+voice)
972-58-531689 (cell.)
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Re: apache/ force file proccess

2000-10-24 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 03:47:08PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
> What i had in mind
> 
> Is when surfer get into some directory (lets say admin), before every request
> a PHP script which exist in file.php must be served.

Additionally to what Evgeny said, you can to it not system-wide
but apply to certain directories by placing the directives:

php3_auto_prepend_file header.inc
php3_auto_append_file footer.inc

.. or for PHP4:

php_value auto_prepend_file header.inc
php_value auto_append_file header.inc

You can place those in the .htaccess file in the script's
directory, or in the  and  blocks.

(of course, I expect you use PHP as an Apache module)

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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Omer Zak

In such a case, we split the list into two (like the split between newbies
and oldtimers), and people will crosspost to both of them, and people will
subscribe to both of them, and will get each message 2-3 times anyway.

[Ducking into cover]

 --- Omer
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

> Ok, so as for this minute (after my vote), the result is tied (7 in favour, 7
> against).
> 
> What happens if that remains the situation?
> 
> Shacahr


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FW: samba server.

2000-10-24 Thread פופוב יבגני




> but then the server will not answer to authentication requests, no ?
> I do not have any NT on my network and neither want one.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
>   No. You need the"logon server "  only if you want a
> NT-Domain_controller logons. It seems to me that you only want to have
> your shares be avaliable to Win users. You need a SMB Server, but not PDC.
> 
> For the first step try "security=share" ( WIN95 type), this is easier to
> start working. 
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äòáøä: áòðééï: [hetz@linuxqa.com: Re: Kde Israel is looking for same help]

2000-10-24 Thread Fialckove OR

thake a look, i send it to nadav

> > Or,
> >
> > Is there a reason why the translation is done on Visual Hebrew?
> >
> > The upcoming QT 3.0 will force you to change it back to logical hebrew..
>
> THE FUNNY MASSAGE I SEE TODAY (:
> QT 3.0 will publish in next summer...
> all browser can read Visual Hebrew only IE and KDE 2 browser can read
logic
> hebrew...
>
> >
> > My suggestion would be to move the translation to Logical Hebrew first,
> then
> > write the translations...
>
> any why, the translation come to me in logic hebrew, so it not be a
probalm
>
> > Also, in the translation web page on KDE - Meny livne is written as the
> person
> > in charge, and Meny cannot be reached through his current email address,
a
> thing
> > which prevented me and many others to talk to someone in the translation
> team...
>
> i the pnly one in the translation team, what do you want from KDE Israel?
> i'm the only one that work in kde israel in those day's...
>
> thanks
> Or Fialckove
> Kde Israel
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Hetz
> >
> > > Fialckove OR wrote:
> > >
> > > Kde Israel is looking for people that will help to translate the kde
> site to
> > > hebrew, we just finish to translate 10 pages
> > >
> > > we want to translate the site before the the Release of KDE 2
> > >
> > > everyone that want to help need to send me e-mail:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > translate page take 5 minutes, there is no reason that everyone of you
> > > didn't translate some pages.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > OR
> > > Kde Israel
> > > http://www.kde.org/il
> >
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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: reply-to field":
> Ok, so as for this minute (after my vote), the result is tied (7 in favour, 7
> against).
> 
> What happens if that remains the situation?

Well, just like the big-endians and little-endians in Gulliver's Travels,
we'll have to go to war over it! Just kidding...

I believe this mailing list has much more than 14 people, so let's let them
vote for a few more days. Besides, maybe after you get this message twice
(because I used 'g'roup reply) you'll change your vote and it will no longer
be tied ;)

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RE: samba server.

2000-10-24 Thread פופוב יבגני



> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Almogy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: à 22 àå÷èåáø 2000 7:54
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: samba server.
> 
> but then the server will not answer to authentication requests, no ?
> I do not have any NT on my network and neither want one.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
  No. You need the"logon server "  only if you want a
NT-Domain_controller logons. It seems to me that you only want to have your
shares be avaliable to Win users. You need a SMB Server, but not PDC. 
For the first step try "security=share" ( WIN95 type), this is
easier to start working. 

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Re: reply-to field

2000-10-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh

Ok, so as for this minute (after my vote), the result is tied (7 in favour, 7
against).

What happens if that remains the situation?

Shacahr

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> NH>> P.S. Yes, voting in this egroups poll is not very convenient, and it forces
> NH>>  you to give out your email address. I hope that people will get past that
> NH>>  (egroups is a respectable company, so far, and I don't know of any evidence
> NH>>  of it spamming).
>
> Well, except that they do it in every message going through egroups - no,
> no spamming either. :) Not complaining, though - after all, they give us
> mailserver for free.
>
> NH>> Our next poll will involve which end of an egg to break first :)
>
> Personally, I put it in the cold water, then give light hits over all the
> surface and then the shell can be removed from any point of the egg with
> one or two movements. Works only for hard eggs, though. Sorry for the
> offtopic :)
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