Re: free shell account?

2000-12-03 Thread Shlomi Fish

On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Ishay Sommer wrote:

 Hello,
 I am looking for a while, for a free shell account on unix/linux somewhere
 on the net...
 does anyone know of such? I am talking about a simple text telnet shell
 account, not graphic
 like www.workspot.com
 
 thanks, ishay


Sourceforge.net will give you such an account, assuming you are working on
an open-source project.

Regards,

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Re: Connecting to Matav ISP

2000-12-03 Thread Guy Cohen

Mevorach, Assaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if their RAS is set to PAP only, you can not connect with login shell or
 login script.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but pppd knows how to handle pap, it's called
pap-secret. Read about it with `man pppd`.

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Re: free shell account?

2000-12-03 Thread Guy Cohen

try zimcity.net (my favorite ;P)

and also www.shellyeah.org

Ishay Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I am looking for a while, for a free shell account on unix/linux somewhere
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 does anyone know of such? I am talking about a simple text telnet shell
 account, not graphic
 like www.workspot.com
 
 thanks, ishay
 
 
 
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Re: free shell account?

2000-12-03 Thread Aviram Jenik


 I am looking for a while, for a free shell account on unix/linux somewhere
 on the net...

Or try www.freeshell.org


- Aviram


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Re: free shell account?

2000-12-03 Thread Shadi

Greetings,

Regarding www.shellyeah.org , they stoppped giving away shells.

You may login as 'newuser' in freenet.nether.net

Or login as 'visitor' in sdf.lonestar.org

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On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Guy Cohen wrote:

 try zimcity.net (my favorite ;P)
 
 and also www.shellyeah.org
 
 Ishay Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  I am looking for a while, for a free shell account on unix/linux somewhere
  on the net...
  does anyone know of such? I am talking about a simple text telnet shell
  account, not graphic
  like www.workspot.com
  
  thanks, ishay
  
  
  
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default permissions

2000-12-03 Thread Aviram Jenik

A simple question:

I want all the files that are created in a certain directory to have a
default permission (e.g. ug+rwx, o+rx) as soon as they're created. This
default should be different from other directories (i.e. I don't want to
change the system's default).

How can I do that?

Thanks.

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Re: default permissions

2000-12-03 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Aviram Jenik wrote:


Ok. Do you only one permissions or ownership too ?


You can control permissions with umask (man umask), but not as directory
feature. (you'll need to manipulate umask before creating the files in
that directory).

If you have a case where you want to create files with the group
automatically set to a certain group, use the sticky bit:

drwxrsxr-x 1rootsomegroup   4096{DATE HERE} dir/

when you do touch dir/file, it will be created with group=somegroup.

If you do umask 002, it will be created with ug+rw,o+r  (example).


--Ariel


 A simple question:
 
 I want all the files that are created in a certain directory to have a
 default permission (e.g. ug+rwx, o+rx) as soon as they're created. This
 default should be different from other directories (i.e. I don't want to
 change the system's default).
 
 How can I do that?
 
 Thanks.
 
 - Aviram
 
 
 
 
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ARP

2000-12-03 Thread Benji Selano

Hi...

where can I set a manual ARP entry that will be loaded on every boot.
(except in the rc)
(something like /etc/sysconfig/static-routes)

Thanks

Benji


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Re: default permissions

2000-12-03 Thread Moshe Zadka

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Aviram Jenik wrote:

 A simple question:
 
 I want all the files that are created in a certain directory to have a
 default permission (e.g. ug+rwx, o+rx) as soon as they're created. This
 default should be different from other directories (i.e. I don't want to
 change the system's default).
 
 How can I do that?
 

When a file gets created on a UNIX system, the permissions are determined
by two things: umask, and requested permissions. Various solutions can
be devised based on changing one of these parameters -- if you tell
us why you need this, maybe we could be of more help.
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Re: ARP

2000-12-03 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Benji Selano wrote:

 /etc/ethers used to be it (for the ones who still remember).

 Check if RH uses it.

--Ariel

 Hi...
 
 where can I set a manual ARP entry that will be loaded on every boot.
 (except in the rc)
 (something like /etc/sysconfig/static-routes)
 
 Thanks
 
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RE: ARP

2000-12-03 Thread Benji Selano

no /etc/ethers on RH 6.2.. :( 
any other idea?

Benji

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To: Benji Selano
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Subject: Re: ARP


On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Benji Selano wrote:

 /etc/ethers used to be it (for the ones who still remember).

 Check if RH uses it.

--Ariel

 Hi...
 
 where can I set a manual ARP entry that will be loaded on every boot.
 (except in the rc)
 (something like /etc/sysconfig/static-routes)
 
 Thanks
 
 Benji
 
 
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Re: default permissions

2000-12-03 Thread Aviram Jenik

Hi.


 When a file gets created on a UNIX system, the permissions are determined
 by two things: umask, and requested permissions. Various solutions can
 be devised based on changing one of these parameters -- if you tell
 us why you need this, maybe we could be of more help.

I'm using an internal program that creates local files on the system in a
predefined directory (for example, log files, etc). This application writes
files using the default umask (as you both explained), but I want it to have
a different umask then the default (for example, give o+r when the default
umask is different). I don't care much about ownership, so that's not an
issue.

I'd rather not modify the application itself, and not wrap it with scripts.
The best solution would be to somehow change the umask of the *directory*
without affecting the global umask.
I was hoping there would be a simple and straightforward way to do it under
UNIX...

Any ideas?

- Aviram



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Re: ARP

2000-12-03 Thread Boaz Rymland

Benji Selano wrote:
 
 no /etc/ethers on RH 6.2.. :(
 any other idea?
 

It doesn't have to exist by default. I have a RARP server here which takes it
definitions from /etc/ethers. This is a RH server. This file didn't exist by
default.
I would have checked the kernel documentation, the part about ARP, etc' for more
information.

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Re: default permissions

2000-12-03 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Aviram Jenik wrote:

There is no way I know of to change a directories umask (there's no such
thing ...)


--Ariel

 I'd rather not modify the application itself, and not wrap it with scripts.
 The best solution would be to somehow change the umask of the *directory*
 without affecting the global umask.
 I was hoping there would be a simple and straightforward way to do it under
 UNIX...
 
 Any ideas?
 
 - Aviram
 
 
 
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Re: ARP

2000-12-03 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Sun, Dec 03, 2000, Boaz Rymland wrote about "Re: ARP":
 Benji Selano wrote:
  
  no /etc/ethers on RH 6.2.. :(
  any other idea?
  
 
 It doesn't have to exist by default. I have a RARP server here which takes it
 definitions from /etc/ethers. This is a RH server. This file didn't exist by
 default.
 I would have checked the kernel documentation, the part about ARP, etc' for more
 information.

Or more simply, just do 'man ethers'!

Note that many configuration files on the system do not exist until you
first create them. The fact that a "/etc/ethers" file doesn't exist doesn't
necessarily mean that it is not supported.

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Re: How to slow down noisy CDROM

2000-12-03 Thread Yedidya Bar-david

Hi

Debian has a utility called setcd that can do that.

didi

Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 thanks for the ideas, but I really was looking for a way to tell the CD to
 read the data slowly :-)
 
 The point is that like this I can just cd into the CD and play the music
 without a big hassle, and I know that for Win there is such a program
 (called CD-Bremse) and I was just thinking that it might exist for Linux,
 too.
 
 Schlomo
 
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Schlomo Schapiro
 
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 On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 
  On Fri, Dec 01, 2000, Schlomo Schapiro wrote about "How to slow down noisy CDROM":
   Hi,
  
   does anybody know how to slow down a noisy CD ? I use it mostly to play
   MP3s and the vacuum cleaner noise doesn't fit the music (and the CD would
   be still fast enough if it would run at 4x instead of 36x).
  
  Another solution is to cache the music: if your CD player can read at 20x
  speed (I don't believe the manufacturer's data to represent anything of
  relevance to the truth ;)), then you can read 15 minutes of music in 5
  seconds (quick calculation: mp3 is about 10 times smaller than raw CD data,
  20x makes you able to read data 200 times faster than it will play later).
  
  So you can write a small script which, every 15 minutes, reads the next
  15 minutes of music from the CD onto the hard disk. It will only be 5
  seconds of noise every 15 minutes (even if it's 10 seconds, it's not too
  bad - if the drive needs to seek (the music is not contiguous) it will take
  somewhat longer, but still not too bad). If you want you can do other
  varients on this idea: e.g., if you have 100MB free space on your harddrive
  you can read 100 minutes of music from the CD (this will take 30-60 seconds,
  I think), once every 100 minutes. Given enough disk-space you can even copy
  the entire CD (650MB) to the hard-disk and play the music from there.
  
  By the way, there's a commercial mp3 player that takes this approach for
  somewhat different purpose: that player has a 10 GB hard disk to store
  *tons* of music, random access and rewritable. However because it is a
  portable player, the hard disk is problematic if it spins continuously -
  it wastes a lot of energy and it can be damaged by too-violent motions.
  So what they do is have a memory cache of, say, 4MB that holds 4 minutes
  of music. The drive has to be spun up once every 4 minutes, the 4MB of
  data is read in a couple of seconds, and the drive is spun down. The
  player can (in theory - I don't remember the implentation details) choose
  an appropriate time to read from the hard-disk using motion sensors, and
  if a read fails it can retry a while later - while still playing what it
  has left in the 4-minute buffer.
  
  
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Re: default permissions

2000-12-03 Thread Guy Cohen

You might want to look into linux capabilities library, I'm not sure
it can do that tought, but to my knowladge, it's your best chance.
ftp.il.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/security/linux-privs



Guy

Aviram Jenik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A simple question:
 
 I want all the files that are created in a certain directory to have a
 default permission (e.g. ug+rwx, o+rx) as soon as they're created. This
 default should be different from other directories (i.e. I don't want to
 change the system's default).
 
 How can I do that?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: hebgtk and etc..

2000-12-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Pavel Bibergal wrote:

 Hi all
 i downloaded and installed hebgtk on my Mandrake7.2
 but now i have problem because the gtk i have is 1.2.8 so when i run
 programs using hebgtk i have all kind of problems.. can anybody patch a
 gtk1.2.8 and make a new hebgtk version?

It should also be mentioned that gtkbidi breaks there as well (at least on
my computer)

Unfortunetely Dov is currently quite busy these days :(

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Re: Connecting to Matav ISP

2000-12-03 Thread Eduardo Tarasiuk

"Mevorach, Assaf" wrote:

 if their RAS is set to PAP only, you can not connect with login shell or
 login script.
 and that might be the reason why in NT you also cant login with terminal
 screen
 try to call their support (they have dont they?) and ask for a senior
 support, others will get pannic if they will
 hear that its about Linux...
 ~~Assaf
 -Original Message-
 From: Eduardo Tarasiuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 9:13 AM
 Cc: 'Israeli Linux mailing list'
 Subject: Connecting to Matav ISP

 Sorry if this issue already been on this mail list, I do not know where the
 archive are stored !.

 Now to my problem :

 I am trying to connect the Internet through Matav without any success.
 Their servers deny the access when
 entering the Username and Password from a terminal or from a chat script
 (using the expect/send pair).

 Of course !,  the Username/Password is OK .

 On NT I succeeded to connect without openning a terminal, (writing the
 user/pass in the Dial-Up screen previous to the dialing) , but  when I open
 a terminal to enter the User/Password interactively, I have the same
 problem than with Linux.
 I tried to add/delete , newline/CR/null string, after each string (user and
 passwd.) without any positive result, and
 I have no sniffer to check what is the difference between the two NT
 definition modes. The Linux is for far my
 main platform of work so I need the solution on it.

 I am working with several other ISP's through Linux, so my Modem, PPP/Chat
 settings are OK, for sure.

 I am wondering if one of you succeeded to work with Matav.

 I will thanksfull to receive any good Idea.

   thanks
   Eduardo

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the future of cell phones

2000-12-03 Thread Ely Levy


http://www.palmpalm.com/press/en_press_index_3.html

Ely Levy
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the revised and updated HOWTO-ADSL-BEZEQ

2000-12-03 Thread Dani Arbel

here it is. whoever keep the HOWTO for linux-il, please replace the old
one
Dani

  HOWTO-ADSL-BEZEQ
  
Written by Dr. Daniel Arbel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Aug. 2000
ver 1.0 
ver 1.0.1 Sep 2000 - corrections for pap authentication and stoping 
 sessions.

DISCLAIMER: The info in this doc is based on  one successful installation. I
was unable to connect my own home Linux yet, which indicates that some of
you out there may have problems as well.

INTRODUCTION

The introduction describes the mechanism of windows installation. The
reason is that Bezeq technicians have NO idea about any other environment
and can provide no clue about how to connect a Linux box. They will not
describe the details of the connection in technical language because of
lack of knowledge. Diging in Bezeq installation and reading this
introduction will help you make the conclusions needed when connecting
your Linux box.
I describe here the details of Orkit equipment. If you have ALcatel gear
and it looks a bit different, try to use intuition... (I did not have the
privelage to use Alcatel ADSL ..).

1) The communication between the ADSL unit and the comp. is done by
ethernet NIC and it uses the following setup:
network 10.0.0.0 mask 255.0.0.0 host: 1200.1.1 adsl: 10.0.0.138
no dns, no domain , no gateway.
( i did not try to move the host to 10.0.0.x and encrease the mask).
2) bezeq will install a peace of (junk?) s/w that connects automatically to
their ADSL portal and activating your browser to show the main page. from
there you can surf to the service selection and connect to your ISP. This
is the front end hiding the things that actually take place:
3) connection is done by dialing (yes, dial up just like with a
modem) using the private network mechanism. the equivivalent dial setup is
as follows:
1) install ms private network adapter (this is done when Bezeq install ADSL
in your pc).
2) go to dial up networking and start the wizard to create a new
connection
3) for this connection, use Microsoft VPN adapter
4) host name is 10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1
5) once the connection icon is created, go to its properties and disable
netbeui, ipx etc (not so important)
6) start the connection. the username is guest@OXx where X is your
chosen ISP with it first character in upercase (i.e. Actcom ) (the letter
after the '@' is NOT zero).
7) IF you receive a connection and are able to use it, you may go on to
Linux installation. If not, try to search in the registry (search for wow
) weather some details have been changes by Bezeq (most likely to change
are the username and hostname of the VPN endpoint).

LINUX INSTALLATION (finaly ...
--

You should have no problem in installing a NIC for ADSL. Reduce the MTU to
1452 (ifconfig eth0 10.200.1.1/8 mtu 1452 )
use a kernel with ppp support and latest pppd (in my mandrake 7.1 , kernel
2.2.17 the version is 2.3.11).
the equivivalent of Microsoft VPN adapter is just the pptp .. get it 
http://cag.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian/Projects/PPTP/ 
the current version is 1.02
since pptp does not receive all the options as a command line parameter,
you have to enter the RELAY_PPP1 (see the introduction) into the source
file (is anyone out there willing to enhance this pptp s/w ?) :
change line 212 in pptp_ctrl.c to:
hton16(PPTP_WINDOW), 0, 0, 0, {"RELAY_PPP1"}, {0}

compile. Read the pptp docs to see that you have pppd in the proper place.

The authentication method is forced by the server. In order to cover both
optons (pap and chap) create 2 identical files:
edit /etc/ppp/chap-secrets and /etc/ppp/pap-secrets to include proper
lines like:
"guest@OActcom" "10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1" "Bezeq"

and finaly, start a call:

/pptp 10.0.0.138 debug user guest@OActcom remotename "10.0.0.138
RELAY_PPP1" defaultroute netmask 255.0.0.0 mtu 1452 noauth

If everything goes well you should be connected, and your networking will
look something like that:
# netstat -r -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
10.200.1.1  0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0 eth0
213.8.120.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0 ppp0
10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0 0  0 lo
0.0.0.0 213.8.120.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 ppp0

# ifconfig -a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:BF:0E:F6:A8
  inet addr:10.200.1.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1452  Metric:1
  RX packets:51825 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:56376 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:109 txqueuelen:100
  Interrupt:9 Base address:0xb000

loLink