Re: Sun Spark - Linux isoue
Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
SUN did it correctly, INTEL did not.
Geoff.
Could you elaborate why Intel did it wrong?
Take your pick:
1) Geoff is a big Sun fan.
2) If everybody did it the right way (i.e. the Sun way) we wouldn't
need hton{s,l}, ntoh{s,l}.
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Re: GPL Nuances [was Re: RMS is back again]
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The linux kernel is licensed under a license that is not exactly the GPL. It is the GPL with an extra clause that allows binary modules (to allow support of certain kinds of hardware, and with certain limitations, but this is really *not* the place to discuss them). I am assuming you mean this: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#LinkingOverControlledInterface AFAIK, the Linux kernel does not include this stipulation, albeit Linus's note at the top of /usr/src/linux/COPYING is arguably similar in spirit. Thus, linking binary modules is a bit shaky (you may trust Linus who seems to be quite liberal, but parts of kernel code are copyrighted by others, who may adhere to stricter interpretations). A cautious solution would involve a GPLed (with the additional clause like in the URL above) interface module, and a proprietary module that will only use the facilities provided by the interface module. In addition, if you make sure that whatever your module does makes sense out of the context of the Linux kernel, you are probably covered (this last condition is difficult to satisfy in the case of hardware drivers and such). -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] A sense of the fundamental decencies is parceled out unequally at birth. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: {KDE,GNOME} iso images for MS env? Distributed by IGLU? CDsout of those images?
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: They currently have a beta of KDE 2.2.2 .It requires an X server. They seem to have long-term plans for porting KDE to native win32, but even if they will get to that, it will take a while. the moment that they'll start implementing QT API they'll get a ceast and decists letter from Trolltech (which follows the project closely) - it's their main revenue... On what grounds? Isn't that library available under the GPL? I don't see any *legal* grounds here, and I don't suppose that the kde-cygwin project is sponsered by TrollTech. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: music with linux ?
Can you stop sending HTML mail please??? If you want Music based applications for Linux, look at http://freshmeat.net and search there.. Hetz On Sunday 02 June 2002 06:53, Eli Segal wrote: Can you guys tell me where can i find information on music production with linux ?? i'm a musician and i do most of the owrk out side of the computer and give the computer do the finish and midi ... IRC#, forums , web anything will be welcome thanx Eli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bidi OO problem- rendering fonts
I managed to install the new bidi OO, I also installed ttf fonts with hebrew: arial, david, tahoma, narkisim... which I took from my licensed windows XP. The left right (bidi) is working fine. The only thing is that when writing hebrew letters the rendering is off. What I see is that the space between the letters is wrong, sometimes the letters are too far, sometimes too close, and at any case it looks bad, very bad. Any ideas? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: music with linux ?
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Can you stop sending HTML mail please??? If you want Music based applications for Linux, look at http://freshmeat.net and search there.. Hetz The next link is a great resource to the leading music projects in linux . Linux Music Computer Survey http://www.grame.fr/yann/linuxcms.html Don't forget to monitor the upcoming linux music distro with all the goodies preinstalled- http://www.agnula.org/ regards - -- Lior Kesos , [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aduva re.search(meaning,self) There only 10 types of people in the world - Those who understand binary, and those who don't. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old RH distros CDs
Boris Gorelik wrote: Hi, I have the following distros: RH 6.0, 7.1, 7.2. I don't know what to do with them (don't want to throw them to the garbage). So if anyone wants them, please send me postal stamps and I'll send them to you. (I live and work in Jerusalem, a personal meeting is also an option) You can do what I did with mine, put them on the ceiling of the CS group at HUJI. Some of them must be 7 or 8 years old by now. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson Bloomberg L.P., BFM (Israel) 2 hours ahead of London, 7 hours ahead of New York. Tel: 972-(0)3-754-1158 Fax 972-(0)3-754-1236 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: music with linux ?
On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 08:53:28 +0200 Eli Segal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you guys tell me where can i find information on music production with linux ?? Just few links from my wwwoffle cache (btw: excelent non-music app): Some Interesting Sound MIDI Software For Linux: http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linux_soundapps.html Linux Audio-Quality-HOWTO: http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/quality/ Developing and Using Snd: Editing Sound Under Linux: http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/05/snd_partone.html I haven't visited these for a while, so if they are stale you can STFG for the words from the subjects (The HOWTO should be on LDP). Also, if you compose and want to print notes, you may want to look at: Lilypond: lilypond.org noteedit: http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html That's for a start... Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Some people have a life, others have Windows to tell them where they want to go today - Ronald C.F. Antony = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: music with linux ?
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Eli Segal wrote: Can you guys tell me where can i find information on music production with linux ?? My best linuxaudio bookmarks - http://linux-sound.org/ http://www.boosthardware.com/LAU/quicktoots/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bidi OO problem- rendering fonts
Shai, Does that happen with all Hebrew fonts that you installed? Please be more specific about which fonts cause problem, and which, if any, are displayed correctly. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 Please respond to Shai Bentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:bidi OO problem- rendering fonts I managed to install the new bidi OO, I also installed ttf fonts with hebrew: arial, david, tahoma, narkisim... which I took from my licensed windows XP. The left right (bidi) is working fine. The only thing is that when writing hebrew letters the rendering is off. What I see is that the space between the letters is wrong, sometimes the letters are too far, sometimes too close, and at any case it looks bad, very bad. Any ideas? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Correction to the welcome message (fwd)
if you guys change the address of the faq do tell me.. what is the now address? notice that in the intro there is only ILUG and not IGLU should it be changed? is the sky blue?is the sea red? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:23:53 +0200 From: David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Correction to the welcome message I just joined the list and read through the Welcome to list 'linux-il' welcome message. There was a pointer to the FAQ that is not correct. The welcome message says The Frequently Asked Questions file is available at the following URL: http://www.linux.org.il/linux-il-faq.html This URL gives a 404 error. It seems the correct URL should be http://www.iglu.org.il/faq I was also wondering if there is an option to receive the list in digest format? Thanks, David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Correction to the welcome message (fwd)
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Ely Levy wrote: if you guys change the address of the faq do tell me.. what is the new address? notice that in the intro there is only ILUG and not IGLU should it be changed? The list's URL is http://linux.org.il/mailing-lists/linux-il.html BTW: do other mailing lists's intro pages point to the appropriate page? -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:23:53 +0200 From: David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Correction to the welcome message I just joined the list and read through the Welcome to list 'linux-il' welcome message.There was a pointer to the FAQ that is not correct.The welcome message says The Frequently Asked Questions file is available at the following URL: http://www.linux.org.il/linux-il-faq.html ThisURL gives a 404 error. It seems the correct URL should be http://www.iglu.org.il/faq I was also wondering if there is an option to receive the list in digest format? Thanks, David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
some questions
hi, i'm not a sysadmin, but worked a bit on linux during my first degree, so please be kind (and rewind) and try to answer my questions as simple as you can. 1. i have a lan with a linux and windows 2000. can i access the windows file system from the linux? if so how? 2. can i allow logins (telnet logins) only from know ip's, without installing a firewall? if you know of a site, or how-to for my questions please send me a link and i'll read and learn myself, the problem is i dont know exacly where to start (subject name to search) and i'm getting a lot of junk. thanks alon _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some questions
to share filesystems u should read the samba how-to (a system that allows accessing windows shared folders/printers) as to the telnet i personally do not know of a method to restrict logins to ip. what i could suggest is use ssh (more secure) and use the authentication keys (that way u can determine exactly what users can login and get them to skip the login proccess at all) thats ssh/sshd how-to good luck enjoy. On Sunday 02 June 2002 15:53, you wrote: hi, i'm not a sysadmin, but worked a bit on linux during my first degree, so please be kind (and rewind) and try to answer my questions as simple as you can. 1. i have a lan with a linux and windows 2000. can i access the windows file system from the linux? if so how? 2. can i allow logins (telnet logins) only from know ip's, without installing a firewall? if you know of a site, or how-to for my questions please send me a link and i'll read and learn myself, the problem is i dont know exacly where to start (subject name to search) and i'm getting a lot of junk. thanks alon -- Barak Kaufman Customer Support Manager Oz-Tech Information Systems To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some questions
Hi, On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:53:18PM +, Alon Kadury wrote: hi, i'm not a sysadmin, but worked a bit on linux during my first degree, so please be kind (and rewind) and try to answer my questions as simple as you can. 1. i have a lan with a linux and windows 2000. can i access the windows file system from the linux? if so how? With smbclient or smbmount. 2. can i allow logins (telnet logins) only from know ip's, without installing a firewall? Edit /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. Do 'man hosts.allow' for info. if you know of a site, or how-to for my questions please send me a link and i'll read and learn myself, the problem is i dont know exacly where to start (subject name to search) and i'm getting a lot of junk. thanks alon _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good luck, Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some questions
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002, Alon Kadury wrote about some questions: 1. i have a lan with a linux and windows 2000. can i access the windows file system from the linux? if so how? The thing to search for is samba. It is already included in most Linux distributions, so you can simply mount a Windows share, for example by adding a line like (change the parameters to suit your needs): //10.1.2.3/C$ /mnt/disks smbfs noauto,uid=nyh,gid=nyh,username=administrator,password=QwERTY 0 0 to your /etc/fstab and running mount -a (see the mount(8) and smbmount(8) manuals). 2. can i allow logins (telnet logins) only from know ip's, without installing a firewall? Yes, by editing the /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow file. Check out the hosts_access(5) manual. Of course you should know that telnet's security is really crappy, because it passes passwords unencrypted over the line... [by the way, this is assuming your telnet goes through the tcp wrappers (tcpd). It did, under most inetd setups. I'm not sure about xinetd] -- Nadav Har'El|Sunday, Jun 2 2002, 22 Sivan 5762 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |All those who believe in psychokinesis, http://nadav.harel.org.il |raise my hand. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some questions
Barak Kaufman wrote: as to the telnet i personally do not know of a method to restrict logins to ip. If telnet is being run from inetd (normally the case), you can update your hosts.allow and hosts.deny to do that. Again, RTFM on tcpd. what i could suggest is use ssh (more secure) and use the authentication keys (that way u can determine exactly what users can login and get them to skip the login proccess at all) thats ssh/sshd how-to good luck enjoy. On Sunday 02 June 2002 15:53, you wrote: hi, i'm not a sysadmin, but worked a bit on linux during my first degree, so please be kind (and rewind) and try to answer my questions as simple as you can. 1. i have a lan with a linux and windows 2000. can i access the windows file system from the linux? if so how? 2. can i allow logins (telnet logins) only from know ip's, without installing a firewall? if you know of a site, or how-to for my questions please send me a link and i'll read and learn myself, the problem is i dont know exacly where to start (subject name to search) and i'm getting a lot of junk. thanks alon = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some questions
2. can i allow logins (telnet logins) only from know ip's, without installing a firewall? Yes, by editing the /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow file. Check out the hosts_access(5) manual. Of course you should know that telnet's security is really crappy, because it passes passwords unencrypted over the line... [by the way, this is assuming your telnet goes through the tcp wrappers (tcpd). It did, under most inetd setups. I'm not sure about xinetd] If you are using a distribution that uses xinetd instead of inetd then you can configure individual services to allow or deny individual IPs or ranges etc. You can look at www.xinetd.org for more information.David Suna [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: some questions
On Sunday 02 June 2002 15:53, you wrote: hi, i'm not a sysadmin, but worked a bit on linux during my first degree, so please be kind (and rewind) and try to answer my questions as simple as you can. 1. i have a lan with a linux and windows 2000. can i access the windows file system from the linux? if so how? mount -t smb //SERVER/SHARE /mnt/point -o username=USER,password=PASSWD, workgroup=WORKGROUP,uid=YourUnixUID,gid=YourUnixGroup You can also run LISA daemon to browse LAN with Konquerror. Does anb know hot to set up Konquerror to browse SMB shares but do not ask user/pass every second (i.e when changing directories) ?? 2. can i allow logins (telnet logins) only from know ip's, without installing a firewall? Depend which inetd daemon you use : - inetd daemon - - edit /etc/hosts.allow :- xinetd daemon - - go to /etc/xinetd.conf/ directory and edit telnet service specification. if you know of a site, or how-to for my questions please send me a link and i'll read and learn myself, the problem is i dont know exacly where to start (subject name to search) and i'm getting a lot of junk. thanks alon _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bidi OO problem- rendering fonts
The attached conversation may interest people on the list. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 -- Forwarded by Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM on 02/06/2002 17:04 --- Lina Kemmel 02/06/2002 17:08 To:Shai Bentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM@IBMIL From:Lina Kemmel/Israel/Contr/IBM@IBMIL Subject:Re: bidi OO problem- rendering fonts Importance:Normal Hello Shai, The problem you described is not really Bidi-specific, but a common bug caused by wrong text measurement. It seems to me that somewhere OpenOffice.org claimed it was working on it. Meantime, as a temporary workaround, I'd suggest to make font replacement (Tools-Options-Font Replacement from the swriter menu), to substitute badly-looking fonts by fine-looking. Please note: in order to apply font replacement only on display level, without affecting the document content, select Always (and not Screen) check box in the Font Replacement dialog. The benefit of that, for example, is preserving original fonts when exporting the document to MS formats. Best regards, Lina Kemmel Project leader, Hebrew Competence Group, IBM Global Services (Israel) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lotus Notes: Lina Kemmel/Israel/Contr/IBM@IBMIL Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1-223, Fax: +972 2 5870333Mobile: +972 52 385082 -- Forwarded by Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM on 02/06/2002 13:07 --- Please respond to Shai Bentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM@IBMIL cc: Subject:Re: bidi OO problem- rendering fonts Hi Mati, This happens on arial, david, david transparent, tahoma, narkisim. The only fonts I have working correctly are Gutman Kav and Gutman Kav light. BTW, I have a problem with these two fonts that their name doesn't show up when I open the font combo box. Shai Please respond to Shai Bentin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:bidi OO problem- rendering fonts I managed to install the new bidi OO, I also installed ttf fonts with hebrew: arial, david, tahoma, narkisim... which I took from my licensed windows XP. The left right (bidi) is working fine. The only thing is that when writing hebrew letters the rendering is off. What I see is that the space between the letters is wrong, sometimes the letters are too far, sometimes too close, and at any case it looks bad, very bad. Any ideas? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another bidi OO prob
Hi. I'm using bidi OO from the binaries at ILUG on MDK 8.2. Overall it runs great (though, very heavy on resources). However, I've encountered one disturbing prob: in hebrew mode, the double quotes () always appear in the wrong order - i.e., as if I was writing in english. Is that a problem in the bidi patch or is something is wrong with my settings? I have set LANG=he_IL before lunching OO. Itai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
