Perl Mongers Meeting on June 13

2002-06-04 Thread Gabor Szabo

Hi All,

finally it is here:
This is an official invitation of the Modiin.pm (also know as
http://www.perl.org.il/ ) to the 2nd meeting.

Date: 13th June 2002 18:00, the lecture will start at 19:00
Location: to be announced later
Agenda: Reuven Lerner ( www.lerner.co.il ) will talk about
internationalization
localization
Unicode
Hebrew
in Perl 5.8
Price: it will be free though contributions will be accepted.
Food: I'll try to buy enough food so we won't starve.

please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASAP. I need to know how 
many people to expect so I know how much food to buy.


Now that we have lecture we only need a place.
I'd like to held the meeting somewhere in the center (TA area)
that is the most convenient for most of the people.
Anyone has a suggestion and/or can offer a place where we 
can have a meeting (we need a projector) ?

regards
-- Gabor
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DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread Ben-Nes Michael

Hi All

I have dificulty using DHCPD on Linux server (rh7.3) with 2 interfaces

I found out the dhcpd require me to specify all the interfaces on the 
server to start even if i dont want to use ( in this example eth0 ) one 
of the interfaces.

the HOWTO recomended me to enter this line for the unused eth0

subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
}

but then when I start to get DHCP Discover both interfaces send DHCP 
Offer and the client which return DHCP Request to confirm get DHCP 
NAK from the eth1 while eth0 send  DHCP ACK.

This result in endless retries.

if I do ifconfig eth0 down all work and the client get its ip  ( after 
i comment the eth0 enteries in the dhcpd.conf file )

if I leave both interfaces up and fill the missing option in the 
194.90.15.160 subnet the client succesfuly lease an ip from this subnet

here is the dhcpd.conf 4 yours inspection:

default-lease-time  600;
max-lease-time  7200;

option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option routers 192.168.0.1;
range 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.5;
option domain-name internal.co.il;
}

subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
}


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ADSL: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

2002-06-04 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


Dear Mulix et al,

I am trying to set up my brand new ADSL, and I am getting the
following timeout error:

Jun  4 11:21:47 trillian pptp[28241]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:580]: 
Client connection established.
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pptp[28241]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:708]: 
Outgoing call established (call ID 0, peer's call ID 0). 
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: using channel 10
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: Using interface ppp0
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/6
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1452 asyncmap 
0x0 magic 0x7733d07 pcomp accomp]
Jun  4 11:22:15 trillian last message repeated 9 times
Jun  4 11:22:18 trillian pppd[28242]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests 
Jun  4 11:22:18 trillian pppd[28242]: Connection terminated.
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pppd[28242]: Exit.
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pptp[28239]: log[decaps_hdlc:pptp_gre.c:129]: short read 
(4294967295): Input/output error
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pptp[28241]: log[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:245]: Closing 
connection
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pptp[28241]: log[pptp_conn_close:pptp_ctrl.c:307]: Closing 
PPTP connection
Jun  4 11:22:21 trillian pptp[28241]: log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:88]: Closing 
connection

The relevant part of ifconfig is (eth1 is connected to the modem, I
never get the ppp0 entry, of course)

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:C1:26:05:B4:66  
  inet addr:10.200.1.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1452  Metric:1
  RX packets:217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:283 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
  RX bytes:17414 (17.0 Kb)  TX bytes:24464 (23.8 Kb)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1000 

The Diagnosis section of pptp,

http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-diagnosis.phtml#read_io_error

says there are likely errors in config files. Various mailing list
archives on the net suggest checking the secrets files when LCP
timeout sending Config-Requests occurs. Tsahi wrote this in

http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/01/08/msg00528.html

If you get LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests, your redback at bezeq
probably is experiencing difficulties or it is rebooting because of an
overload. the problem could also be you have some configuration problem, but
if your connection was up and now it is down, it is highly unlikely. you
should call 1800-340-340 and ask whats up, or wait a few minutes until the
redback reboots (if it is the case).

I have waited much longer than a few minutes, I just got ADSL
installed - it has never been up, and Bezeq support are not very
helpful. I'd like to verify that I am doing everything right before I
call them again.

I set up {chap,pap}-secrets according to the HOWTO (I think)

[root@trillian ppp]# cat /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
# Secrets for authentication using CHAP
# clientserver  secret  IP addresses

guest@OActcom 10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1 Bezeq
guest@ONetvision  10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1 Bezeq

Ownership and permissions look right, too.

[root@trillian ppp]# ls -l /etc/ppp/{chap,pap}-secrets
-rw---1 root root  251 Jun  4 11:16 /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
-rw---1 root root  250 Jun  4 11:16 /etc/ppp/pap-secrets

The invocation is with

/usr/sbin/pptp 10.0.0.138 --quirks=BEZEQ_ISRAEL debug \
user guest@ONetvision remotename 10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1 \
defaultroute mtu 1452 mru 1452 noauth

Essential info:

[root@trillian ppp]# uname -srm
Linux 2.4.7-10 i686
[root@trillian ppp]# rpm -q pptp-linux ppp
pptp-linux-1.1.0-1
ppp-2.4.1-2

I am still looking on the net, but maybe some kind soul here will tell
me quickly what gives? Thanks,

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RE: DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread Katriel Traum

I encountered the same problem.
what you have to do is edit /etc/sysconfig/dhcp
and set the DHCPDARGS to the interface or interfaces you want dhcpd to
listen on.

root@gw etc# cat /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd
# Command line options here
DHCPDARGS=eth1

that way dhcpd will listen only on one interface, and you won't have to set
up a dummy range on your other interface.


-katriel

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Behalf Of Ben-Nes Michael
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DHCPD problem


Hi All

I have dificulty using DHCPD on Linux server (rh7.3) with 2 interfaces

I found out the dhcpd require me to specify all the interfaces on the
server to start even if i dont want to use ( in this example eth0 ) one
of the interfaces.

the HOWTO recomended me to enter this line for the unused eth0

subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
}

but then when I start to get DHCP Discover both interfaces send DHCP
Offer and the client which return DHCP Request to confirm get DHCP
NAK from the eth1 while eth0 send  DHCP ACK.

This result in endless retries.

if I do ifconfig eth0 down all work and the client get its ip  ( after
i comment the eth0 enteries in the dhcpd.conf file )

if I leave both interfaces up and fill the missing option in the
194.90.15.160 subnet the client succesfuly lease an ip from this subnet

here is the dhcpd.conf 4 yours inspection:

default-lease-time  600;
max-lease-time  7200;

option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
option routers 192.168.0.1;
range 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.5;
option domain-name internal.co.il;
}

subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
}


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Re: ADSL: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

2002-06-04 Thread miki . shapiro


I don't know how helpful this is, cuz I run FreeLSD, but essentially pptp
and ppp are rather the same.
I have /etc/ppp/ppp.conf that looks like:

Actcom:
 set authname aris@IActcom
 set authkey putpasswordhere
 set timeout 0
 set ifaddr 0 0
 add default HISADDR
 enable dns
 set mtu 1452
[If ppp scriptos on linux have slightly different syntax -- use yours
here]

and I hit it by doing a simple:
/usr/local/sbin/pptp 10.0.0.138 Actcom

Note: the whole RELAY_PPP1 thing is not mandatory, at least on the ALCATEL
modems. notice I don't use it.


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Aladdin Knowledge Systems
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On 06/04/2002 11:55:19 AM ZE3 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

Dear Mulix et al,

I am trying to set up my brand new ADSL, and I am getting the
following timeout error:

Jun  4 11:21:47 trillian pptp[28241]:
log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:580]: Client connection
established.
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pptp[28241]:
log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:708]: Outgoing call established
(call ID 0, peer's call ID 0).
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: using channel 10
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: Using interface ppp0
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/6
Jun  4 11:21:48 trillian pppd[28242]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1452
asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x7733d07 pcomp accomp]
Jun  4 11:22:15 trillian last message repeated 9 times
Jun  4 11:22:18 trillian pppd[28242]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Jun  4 11:22:18 trillian pppd[28242]: Connection terminated.
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pppd[28242]: Exit.
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pptp[28239]: log[decaps_hdlc:pptp_gre.c:129]:
short read (4294967295): Input/output error
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pptp[28241]:
log[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:245]: Closing connection
Jun  4 11:22:19 trillian pptp[28241]:
log[pptp_conn_close:pptp_ctrl.c:307]: Closing PPTP connection
Jun  4 11:22:21 trillian pptp[28241]:
log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:88]: Closing connection

The relevant part of ifconfig is (eth1 is connected to the modem, I
never get the ppp0 entry, of course)

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:C1:26:05:B4:66
  inet addr:10.200.1.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1452  Metric:1
  RX packets:217 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:283 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:17414 (17.0 Kb)  TX bytes:24464 (23.8 Kb)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1000

The Diagnosis section of pptp,

http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-diagnosis.phtml#read_io_error

says there are likely errors in config files. Various mailing list
archives on the net suggest checking the secrets files when LCP
timeout sending Config-Requests occurs. Tsahi wrote this in

http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/01/08/msg00528.html

If you get LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests, your redback at bezeq
probably is experiencing difficulties or it is rebooting because of an
overload. the problem could also be you have some configuration problem,
but
if your connection was up and now it is down, it is highly unlikely. you
should call 1800-340-340 and ask whats up, or wait a few minutes until the
redback reboots (if it is the case).

I have waited much longer than a few minutes, I just got ADSL
installed - it has never been up, and Bezeq support are not very
helpful. I'd like to verify that I am doing everything right before I
call them again.

I set up {chap,pap}-secrets according to the HOWTO (I think)

[root@trillian ppp]# cat /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
# Secrets for authentication using CHAP
# clientserver  secret  IP addresses

guest@OActcom 10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1 Bezeq
guest@ONetvision  10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1 Bezeq

Ownership and permissions look right, too.

[root@trillian ppp]# ls -l /etc/ppp/{chap,pap}-secrets
-rw---1 root root  251 Jun  4 11:16
/etc/ppp/chap-secrets
-rw---1 root root  250 Jun  4 11:16
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets

The invocation is with

/usr/sbin/pptp 10.0.0.138 --quirks=BEZEQ_ISRAEL debug \
user guest@ONetvision remotename 10.0.0.138 RELAY_PPP1 \
defaultroute mtu 1452 mru 1452 noauth

Essential info:

[root@trillian ppp]# uname -srm
Linux 2.4.7-10 i686
[root@trillian ppp]# rpm -q pptp-linux ppp
pptp-linux-1.1.0-1
ppp-2.4.1-2

I am still looking on the net, but maybe some kind soul here will tell
me quickly what gives? Thanks,

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Re: GPL Nuances [was Re: RMS is back again]

2002-06-04 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

 Actually, come to think about it, contrary to what I wrote in the
 posting that puzzled you, one can argue that a device driver is a
 piece of software that makes a particular piece of software work,
 using knowledge of its specific characteristics that are outside of
 Linux scope. Thus a linux device driver is related to Linux only
 insofar as it enables the hardware to work with Linux, but the
 hardware spec it is based on is not Linux-specific, and thus the
 device driver is not a derivative product of the Linux kernel in this
 sense, so proprietary drivers are OK.

A device driver is basicaly the same for a given device under a given
architechure. In each system, the driver gets parameters, takes control of
interrupts (if necessary), gets requests and reports status differently.

The basic manipulation of the device is the same, e.g. load firmware,
set interupts, buffers, etc, start i/o, get the repsonse, etc.

While the code may be different (or not) the driver for device X on 
archiechture Y looks the same no matter what language it is written in.
Probably not enough to be restricted by copyright, but enough that anyone
who is familiar with writting drivers could spot.

Most linux drivers were written the other way arround however. Someone
wrote a driver for a device, say a network card, and someone else pulled
out the device specific code and stuck in new code for their device.

This worked out well in the days when no-one had any idea of how to
write a device driver and very few people had a specific device. You
could hack together a driver without a lot of prior programing skill and
it would work. If there was enough demand, it would get fixed and
ocasionaly improved.

In the 2.5.x kernels, there is a new method of accessing device drivers.
Some drivers have been rewritten, some fixed, some left (now to be broken).

Geoff.

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YOM IYOON: we're rolling on.

2002-06-04 Thread guy keren


as the number of 'positive' replies crossed the minimum we defined (20,
and without counting the few 'mabyes') we've reached the point of
no-return, and will perform the formal arrangements in the coming days.
once we order the movie and cinematheque hall, and thus have a final date,
we'll send a formal invitation with the exact date. we'll also settle on
the specific lectures to be carried, and write their topics on that
'formal invitation'. the invitation will be sent both on linux-il, and
personally to those who promised to escourt their bills to the meeting ;)

thanks,
-- 
guy

For world domination - press 1,
 or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy


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Re: ADSL: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

2002-06-04 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


Bezeq just told me (after a lot of we have no support for Linux and
attempts to give me a 192.168.*.* address to ping while I had no
connection) it was something on their side and they were working on
it.

To be fair to Bezeq's support, the last guy was friendly and did try
hard to help, and didn't just slam the phone down after getting the
unexpected reply to his question about OS I was using (he was just
explaining to me that he was not knowledgeable in what was going on on
my end, and was not sure thay had anyone knowledgeable around, though
I did get an impression that there are some people with Linux
expertise there, though not necessarily always). This support
call was handled better than could be expected, though there is room
for improvement.

In any case, if someone notices a misconfiguration in what I reported,
please let me know.

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Re: DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread Ben-Nes Michael

Demn.

they sure forgot to mention it in the man :(


- Original Message -
From: Katriel Traum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: DHCPD problem


 I encountered the same problem.
 what you have to do is edit /etc/sysconfig/dhcp
 and set the DHCPDARGS to the interface or interfaces you want dhcpd to
 listen on.

 root@gw etc# cat /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd
 # Command line options here
 DHCPDARGS=eth1

 that way dhcpd will listen only on one interface, and you won't have to
set
 up a dummy range on your other interface.


 -katriel

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Ben-Nes Michael
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:46 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: DHCPD problem


 Hi All

 I have dificulty using DHCPD on Linux server (rh7.3) with 2 interfaces

 I found out the dhcpd require me to specify all the interfaces on the
 server to start even if i dont want to use ( in this example eth0 ) one
 of the interfaces.

 the HOWTO recomended me to enter this line for the unused eth0

 subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
 }

 but then when I start to get DHCP Discover both interfaces send DHCP
 Offer and the client which return DHCP Request to confirm get DHCP
 NAK from the eth1 while eth0 send  DHCP ACK.

 This result in endless retries.

 if I do ifconfig eth0 down all work and the client get its ip  ( after
 i comment the eth0 enteries in the dhcpd.conf file )

 if I leave both interfaces up and fill the missing option in the
 194.90.15.160 subnet the client succesfuly lease an ip from this subnet

 here is the dhcpd.conf 4 yours inspection:

 default-lease-time  600;
 max-lease-time  7200;

 option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;

 subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
 option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
 option routers 192.168.0.1;
 range 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.5;
 option domain-name internal.co.il;
 }

 subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
 }


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Re: ADSL: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

2002-06-04 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [If ppp scriptos on linux have slightly different syntax -- use yours
 here]
 
 and I hit it by doing a simple:
 /usr/local/sbin/pptp 10.0.0.138 Actcom

On Linux it is similar but not exactly the same. At least on Red Hat
(though I think it is generally true for ppp) you put per peer options
files in /etc/ppp/peers, e.g. /etc/ppp/peers/actcom, and invoke
pppd with 

# pppd call actcom

etc. The syntax of the options files is a bit different from what you
quoted. I am plannig to move to this setup eventually (I've used it
for dial-up for years), but just now I am trying to get the initial 
connection. I'll bother with clean configuration later. 

 Note: the whole RELAY_PPP1 thing is not mandatory, at least on the ALCATEL
 modems. notice I don't use it.

Interesting. Can anyone confirm or deny it? Should it be in the HOWTO?

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Re: DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
 
 Demn.
 
 they sure forgot to mention it in the man :(

Yes, they did:

(from man dhcpd)

COMMAND LINE
   The  names of the network interfaces on which dhcpd should
   listen for broadcasts may  be  specified  on  the  command
   line.   This  should  be  done  on  systems where dhcpd is
   unable to identify non-broadcast  interfaces,  but  should
   not  be  required on other systems.  If no interface names
   are specified on the command line dhcpd will identify  all
   network  interfaces which are up, elimininating non-broad­
   cast interfaces if possible, and listen  for  DHCP  broad­
   casts on each interface.

Geoff. 
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RE: DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread doron ofek



I don't think so
In the man page u can see : COMMAND LINE
   The  names of the network interfaces on which dhcpd should listen
   for broadcasts may be specified on the command line.
In the dhcpd init script u can the line: daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd
${DHCPDARGS}
Thet start the daemon on a specific interface.
It is not part of the configuration, it is part of the daemon startup
process

Doron ofek


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ben-Nes Michael
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:54 PM
To: Katriel Traum; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCPD problem

Demn.

they sure forgot to mention it in the man :(


- Original Message -
From: Katriel Traum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: DHCPD problem


 I encountered the same problem.
 what you have to do is edit /etc/sysconfig/dhcp
 and set the DHCPDARGS to the interface or interfaces you want dhcpd to
 listen on.

 root@gw etc# cat /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd
 # Command line options here
 DHCPDARGS=eth1

 that way dhcpd will listen only on one interface, and you won't have
to
set
 up a dummy range on your other interface.


 -katriel

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Ben-Nes Michael
 Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:46 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: DHCPD problem


 Hi All

 I have dificulty using DHCPD on Linux server (rh7.3) with 2 interfaces

 I found out the dhcpd require me to specify all the interfaces on the
 server to start even if i dont want to use ( in this example eth0 )
one
 of the interfaces.

 the HOWTO recomended me to enter this line for the unused eth0

 subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
 }

 but then when I start to get DHCP Discover both interfaces send
DHCP
 Offer and the client which return DHCP Request to confirm get DHCP
 NAK from the eth1 while eth0 send  DHCP ACK.

 This result in endless retries.

 if I do ifconfig eth0 down all work and the client get its ip  (
after
 i comment the eth0 enteries in the dhcpd.conf file )

 if I leave both interfaces up and fill the missing option in the
 194.90.15.160 subnet the client succesfuly lease an ip from this
subnet

 here is the dhcpd.conf 4 yours inspection:

 default-lease-time  600;
 max-lease-time  7200;

 option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;

 subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
 option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
 option routers 192.168.0.1;
 range 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.5;
 option domain-name internal.co.il;
 }

 subnet 194.90.15.160 netmask 255.255.255.224 {
 }


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Re: ADSL: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

2002-06-04 Thread Barak Kaufman

actually what hacking your modem refers to, is making it initiate the ppp link 
by itself and therefore, cancelling the need to set up pptp in the computer 
itself, which in addition to activating the dhcpd in the modem can make life 
pretty easy for you. (something that could solve the problem in the discussed 
case, although it is illegal)

 Try entering your modem with a browser on port 80 and looking at the pptp
 tab.
 (default password is blank - what is commonly referred to as hacking your
 modem by 3LiT3 H4x0Rz..)

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RE: DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, doron ofek wrote:



 I don't think so
 In the man page u can see : COMMAND LINE
  The  names of the network interfaces on which dhcpd should listen
  for broadcasts may be specified on the command line.
 In the dhcpd init script u can the line: daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd
 ${DHCPDARGS}
 Thet start the daemon on a specific interface.
 It is not part of the configuration, it is part of the daemon startup
 process

But on redhat you normally start dhcpd with the init script, not directly
with /usr/sbin/dhcpd .

Should have RedHat patched their local man page? (to add a reference to
the sysconfig documentation?)

Anybody care to file a bug report to them?

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Simulating a high latency link on a LAN using netfilter

2002-06-04 Thread Amir Sela

Hey all.
Anyone knows of a netfilter module that can be used (or any other way) to 
deliberately stall a packet in the router ? I want to create a situation in 
which machine A communicates with machine C on a LAN, through machine B, the 
linux router, and to stall the packets for a pre-determined amount of time.
I've thought of course of overloading the router to the point where it lags 
naturally, but that's a bit of a crude solution.

Thanks,
Amir


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Re: DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

doron ofek wrote:
 
 I don't think so
 In the man page u can see : COMMAND LINE
The  names of the network interfaces on which dhcpd should listen
for broadcasts may be specified on the command line.
 In the dhcpd init script u can the line: daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd
 ${DHCPDARGS}
 Thet start the daemon on a specific interface.
 It is not part of the configuration, it is part of the daemon startup
 process

To have done it right,  /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd should have sourced 
/etc/sysconfig/dhcpd, where the line DHCPDARGS=whatever  would be 
put if wanted and then used the line:

daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd $DHCPDARGS

instead of 

daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd

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RE: DHCPD problem

2002-06-04 Thread Katriel Traum

That's exactly what /etc/init.d/dhcpd does.
it sources /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd and uses daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd
${DHCPDARGS}
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Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:02 PM
To: doron ofek
Cc: 'Ben-Nes Michael'; 'Katriel Traum'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCPD problem


doron ofek wrote:

 I don't think so
 In the man page u can see : COMMAND LINE
The  names of the network interfaces on which dhcpd should listen
for broadcasts may be specified on the command line.
 In the dhcpd init script u can the line: daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd
 ${DHCPDARGS}
 Thet start the daemon on a specific interface.
 It is not part of the configuration, it is part of the daemon startup
 process

To have done it right,  /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd should have sourced
/etc/sysconfig/dhcpd, where the line DHCPDARGS=whatever  would be
put if wanted and then used the line:

daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd $DHCPDARGS

instead of

daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd

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Re: Simulating a high latency link on a LAN using netfilter

2002-06-04 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Amir Sela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anyone knows of a netfilter module that can be used (or any other way) to 
 deliberately stall a packet in the router ? I want to create a situation in 
 which machine A communicates with machine C on a LAN, through machine B, the 
 linux router, and to stall the packets for a pre-determined amount of time.

I can think of a couple of ways to do it with a little bit of C coding.

1) hack the proper place in the kernel.

2) fully user-space solution:

   a) grab every incoming packet with pcap

   b) set iptables to DROP the packet (or ipchains to DENY, what have you)

  alternatively, iptables supports a QUEUE chain which is supposed
  to pass the packet to userland; it should be supported by the
  kernel to work, and I have never tried it (I did the a+b trick with
  ipchains - for a different purpose), so I don't know if it
  has the same effect as a+b here.

   c) once you've got the packet in userland, you can wait for a fixed
  amount of time dt, wait for a random dt with a given
  distribution using a random number generator, wait for different
  amounts of time based on its parameters (maybe it's better to do
  _this_ with iptables, if possible, in order not to send packets
  you don't want to delay to userspace), etc.

   d) having waited for time dt, send the packet to a raw socket;
  don't forget to set IP_HDRINCL option.

I think option 2 is simpler, you want a delay so you don't care about
the inefficiency of passing every packet to userspace, you don't touch
the router's kernel, and userspace allows you much more flexibility.

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Re: Simulating a high latency link on a LAN using netfilter

2002-06-04 Thread Amir Sela

On Tuesday 04 June 2002 16:54, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

 Amir Sela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Anyone knows of a netfilter module that can be used (or any other way) to
  deliberately stall a packet in the router ? I want to create a situation
  in which machine A communicates with machine C on a LAN, through machine
  B, the linux router, and to stall the packets for a pre-determined amount
  of time.

 I can think of a couple of ways to do it with a little bit of C coding.

 1) hack the proper place in the kernel.

I'm not a kernel hacker, so I think the learning curve on this one would be 
quite large(understated).
 2) fully user-space solution:

a) grab every incoming packet with pcap

b) set iptables to DROP the packet (or ipchains to DENY, what have you)

   alternatively, iptables supports a QUEUE chain which is supposed
   to pass the packet to userland; it should be supported by the
   kernel to work, and I have never tried it (I did the a+b trick with
   ipchains - for a different purpose), so I don't know if it
   has the same effect as a+b here.

c) once you've got the packet in userland, you can wait for a fixed
   amount of time dt, wait for a random dt with a given
   distribution using a random number generator, wait for different
   amounts of time based on its parameters (maybe it's better to do
   _this_ with iptables, if possible, in order not to send packets
   you don't want to delay to userspace), etc.

d) having waited for time dt, send the packet to a raw socket;
   don't forget to set IP_HDRINCL option.

That IS simpler. Even though I'm a bit less oblivious about userland 
programming than kernel hacking, this would still require a bit of time to 
do, as I'm unexperienced. Nevertheless, if I won't find any pre-made tool to 
achieve this, I think I'll try and do it. I think it can be a very handy tool 
in testing enviroments.

Thanks :)


 I think option 2 is simpler, you want a delay so you don't care about
 the inefficiency of passing every packet to userspace, you don't touch
 the router's kernel, and userspace allows you much more flexibility.


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Re: Simulating a high latency link on a LAN using netfilter

2002-06-04 Thread Skliarouk Arieh

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Amir Sela wrote:

 Hey all.
 Anyone knows of a netfilter module that can be used (or any other way) to
 deliberately stall a packet in the router ? I want to create a situation in
 which machine A communicates with machine C on a LAN, through machine B, the
 linux router, and to stall the packets for a pre-determined amount of time.
 I've thought of course of overloading the router to the point where it lags
 naturally, but that's a bit of a crude solution.

You need to use CBQ queue. It is part of TOS package in kernel.

I use http://lartc.org/wondershaper/wondershaper-1.1a.tar.gz
to shape ADSL traffic and one of techniques it uses is CBQ (for keeping
packet queue in router and not in modem).

 Thanks,
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Re: Perl Mongers Meeting on June 13

2002-06-04 Thread Shlomi Fish


Hi!

I may be able to come, but I can't quite guarantee it in advance due to my
tight schedule.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Gabor Szabo wrote:

 Hi All,

 finally it is here:
 This is an official invitation of the Modiin.pm (also know as
 http://www.perl.org.il/ ) to the 2nd meeting.

 Date: 13th June 2002 18:00, the lecture will start at 19:00
 Location: to be announced later
 Agenda: Reuven Lerner ( www.lerner.co.il ) will talk about
 internationalization
 localization
 Unicode
 Hebrew
 in Perl 5.8
 Price: it will be free though contributions will be accepted.
 Food: I'll try to buy enough food so we won't starve.

 please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASAP. I need to know how
 many people to expect so I know how much food to buy.


 Now that we have lecture we only need a place.
 I'd like to held the meeting somewhere in the center (TA area)
 that is the most convenient for most of the people.
 Anyone has a suggestion and/or can offer a place where we
 can have a meeting (we need a projector) ?

 regards
 -- Gabor
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Re: Simulating a high latency link on a LAN using netfilter

2002-06-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 15:35, Amir Sela wrote:
 Hey all.
 Anyone knows of a netfilter module that can be used (or any other way) to 
 deliberately stall a packet in the router ? I want to create a situation in 
 which machine A communicates with machine C on a LAN, through machine B, the 
 linux router, and to stall the packets for a pre-determined amount of time.
 I've thought of course of overloading the router to the point where it lags 
 naturally, but that's a bit of a crude solution.

Go grab NIST Net, it does what you want and much much more (random
drops,add jitter etc.):

 http://www.itl.nist.gov/div892/itg/carson/nistnet/index.html

Gilad.


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RE: ADSL: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

2002-06-04 Thread Daniel Paikov


 Note: the whole RELAY_PPP1 thing is not mandatory, at least on the 
 ALCATEL modems. notice I don't use it.

Interesting. Can anyone confirm or deny it? Should it be in the HOWTO?

A month or two ago my (Alcatel) ADSL stopped functioning altogether.
Might have even been the same timeout sending Config-Requests error,
but I'm not sure. The nice Bezeq tech-support person suggested that I
change remotename to 10.0.0.138 (and the matching field in
pap-options, etc), which fixed the problem. He wasn't as helpful in
telling me why this change was suddenly required, but there you go.


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Re: Simulating a high latency link on a LAN using netfilter

2002-06-04 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda

On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:54:47PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 Amir Sela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Anyone knows of a netfilter module that can be used (or any other way) to 
  deliberately stall a packet in the router ? I want to create a situation in 
  which machine A communicates with machine C on a LAN, through machine B, the 
  linux router, and to stall the packets for a pre-determined amount of time.
 
 I can think of a couple of ways to do it with a little bit of C coding.
 
 1) hack the proper place in the kernel.

I'm sure shlomi will let me know if I'm wrong, but I'm reasonably
certain this exactly is what his IP-Noise project does. Check out
http://www-comnet.technion.ac.il/~cn1w02/

 2) fully user-space solution:
 
a) grab every incoming packet with pcap
 
b) set iptables to DROP the packet (or ipchains to DENY, what have you)
 
   alternatively, iptables supports a QUEUE chain which is supposed
   to pass the packet to userland; it should be supported by the
   kernel to work, and I have never tried it (I did the a+b trick with
   ipchains - for a different purpose), so I don't know if it
   has the same effect as a+b here.

It works. If anyone needs help with it, ask choo ;) Alternatively, ask
me. 
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Re: Perl Mongers Meeting on June 13

2002-06-04 Thread Shaul Karl

 Hi All,
 
 finally it is here:
 This is an official invitation of the Modiin.pm (also know as
 http://www.perl.org.il/ ) to the 2nd meeting.
 
 Date: 13th June 2002 18:00, the lecture will start at 19:00
 Location: to be announced later
 Agenda: Reuven Lerner ( www.lerner.co.il ) will talk about
 internationalization
 localization
 Unicode
 Hebrew
 in Perl 5.8
 Price: it will be free though contributions will be accepted.
 Food: I'll try to buy enough food so we won't starve.
 
 please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ASAP. I need to know how 
 many people to expect so I know how much food to buy.
 
 
 Now that we have lecture we only need a place.
 I'd like to held the meeting somewhere in the center (TA area)
 that is the most convenient for most of the people.
 Anyone has a suggestion and/or can offer a place where we 
 can have a meeting (we need a projector) ?
 
 regards
 -- Gabor
 054-624648
 
 


For a place you might try the Bar Ilan Linux Club (BILC):

The university official contact person is Jeremy Schiff 
schiff(at)macs.biu.ac.il. Helping him:

David Shadmi bds049(at)motorola.com, shadmi_d(at)netvision.net.il, 
Boaz yboaz(at)yahoo.com, Jonathan Levi jl344322(at)yahoo.com.
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Re: Simulating a high latency link on a LAN using netfilter

2002-06-04 Thread Shlomi Fish

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:54:47PM +0300, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
  Amir Sela [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Anyone knows of a netfilter module that can be used (or any other way) to
   deliberately stall a packet in the router ? I want to create a situation in
   which machine A communicates with machine C on a LAN, through machine B, the
   linux router, and to stall the packets for a pre-determined amount of time.
 
  I can think of a couple of ways to do it with a little bit of C coding.
 
  1) hack the proper place in the kernel.

 I'm sure shlomi will let me know if I'm wrong, but I'm reasonably
 certain this exactly is what his IP-Noise project does. Check out
 http://www-comnet.technion.ac.il/~cn1w02/


This is exactly what the IP-Noise project does, but it can also be
implemented by writing a simpler two-thread program that uses IP-Queue.
The IP-Noise kernel module currently can only work with kernels that have
the older VM by Rik van Riel. The user-land arbitrator can work for any
kernel.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

  2) fully user-space solution:
 
 a) grab every incoming packet with pcap
 
 b) set iptables to DROP the packet (or ipchains to DENY, what have you)
 
alternatively, iptables supports a QUEUE chain which is supposed
to pass the packet to userland; it should be supported by the
kernel to work, and I have never tried it (I did the a+b trick with
ipchains - for a different purpose), so I don't know if it
has the same effect as a+b here.

 It works. If anyone needs help with it, ask choo ;) Alternatively, ask
 me.
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