Re: CD music

2002-12-17 Thread shlomo solomon
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 02:15, guy keren wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, shlomo solomon wrote:
  I played around for a while with the KsCD setup, but nothing helped
  (/dev/cdrom, dev/scd1, dev/cdrom2, etc).

 tell it to work directly with the relevant /dev/hd* device (/dev/hdc?
 /dev/hdd?). when you run the ide-scsi emulation, the software that sets
 things up tends to also replace the links of /dev/cdrom* to point to the
 matching scsi device - while for audio CD playing you need to accedd the
 IDE device. happened to me too, while doing the same thing.

I tried that and got an error message saying I don't have access permission, 
whch was true for my user. But when I tried (as root) to change permissions 
for my regular user, I couldn't. So I checked and discovered that hdd is 
actually a link (see below). I changed the permissions on the **real** 
device, but instead of helping, that caused KsCD to crash. I had a similar 
experience with /dev/sr1 that someone else suggested I try.

[root@shlomo1 dev]# ls -la hdd*
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   35 Dec 17 16:47 hdd - 
ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/generic
[root@shlomo1 dev]#

what now ;-(

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Re: CD music

2002-12-17 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting shlomo solomon, from the post of Tue, 17 Dec:
 I tried that and got an error message saying I don't have access permission, 
 whch was true for my user. But when I tried (as root) to change permissions 
 for my regular user, I couldn't. So I checked and discovered that hdd is 
 actually a link (see below). I changed the permissions on the **real** 
 device, but instead of helping, that caused KsCD to crash. I had a similar 
 experience with /dev/sr1 that someone else suggested I try.
 
 [root@shlomo1 dev]# ls -la hdd*
 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   35 Dec 17 16:47 hdd - 
 ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/generic
 [root@shlomo1 dev]#
 
 what now ;-(

you are using a device FS which means /dev is not really there, it's a
reflection of the devices in the kernel, much like /proc. the program
that manages all the links is devfsd (you can find it with ps). the
changes in ownership and permissions you are trying to juggle will not
be in effect next time you boot, so the solutions are:

1. wrong: set the permission on each boot with a line in rc.local,
rc.boot or what have you.

2. right: create a group cdrom, add the user to it, and make devfsd do
the chgrp cdrom, chmod g+r for you like so:

edit /etc/devfs/perms and make sure the following line is present:
REGISTER [0-9]/cd$  PERMISSIONS root.cdrom  0660

good luck :)

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RMS in israel

2002-12-17 Thread Amir Tal
for those who are (still) not updated :
http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=49331

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Re: RMS in israel

2002-12-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Amir Tal wrote:

 for those who are (still) not updated :
 http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=49331

I'm still not, how about a synopsis in English?

TIA,

Geoff.

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IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-17 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to
take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at
IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. 

Speaking will be RMS (yesm, yes, *that* Stallman) and Theodore T'so,
one of the kernel developers. 

Details: 
http://www-5.ibm.com/il/news/events/gnulinux/

Nana story:  
http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=49331

[1] I work here, if you attend, don't forget to say hi!
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Re: CD music

2002-12-17 Thread shlomo solomon
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 18:17, Ira Abramov wrote:

 2. right: create a group cdrom, add the user to it, and make devfsd do
the group already existed, so I just added the user

 the chgrp cdrom, chmod g+r for you like so:

 edit /etc/devfs/perms and make sure the following line is present:
 REGISTER [0-9]/cd$  PERMISSIONS root.cdrom  0660
The file /etc/devfs/perms doesn't exist. I found a file called 
/etc/devfsd.conf with syntax similar to what you wrote. So I took a chance 
and edited it. But it didn't help. 


 good luck :)

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openoffice

2002-12-17 Thread Amir Tal
installed OO from binary (ver. 1.0.1), and launching the application loads it 
with no fonts in the UI (empty menu's, empty splash etc...)

looking at /etc/openoffice and ~/.openoffice did not tell me much (couldn't 
find any localization settings there.
tried to change the environment variables, no luck either.
installed using apt-get.
debian sid, kde 3.0.5.

help...?
tal.


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Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-17 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:25:16PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
 IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to
 take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at
 IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. 
 


  The link to the IBM site you gave below doesn't mention January 9th.
Looks like that will be more closed event. Or did I missed something? 


 Speaking will be RMS (yesm, yes, *that* Stallman) and Theodore T'so,
 one of the kernel developers. 
 
 Details: 
 http://www-5.ibm.com/il/news/events/gnulinux/

 Nana story:  
 http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=49331
 
 [1] I work here, if you attend, don't forget to say hi!
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Re: RMS in israel

2002-12-17 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:19:41PM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
 Amir Tal wrote:
 
  for those who are (still) not updated :
  http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=49331
 
 I'm still not, how about a synopsis in English?
 
 TIA,
 
 Geoff.
 
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  Thank you Amir for mentioning it. 
As for mentioning English, I hope that the speakers' English will not be
too fluent that I will have troubles to follow it. Yet I was not invited
and it could be that most Israeli attending don't have this problem. 

  I have tried to write an English synopsis but got something which is
more of a translation. Hopefully the English is reasonable and the
translation is accurate. In particular, I made an attempt not to express
any political views, both in the context of FSF - free software movement
 - Linux and in the context of the Israeli - Arabic conflict.


The title: Father of open source will be visiting Israel

  Richard M. Stallman, the founder of the Free Software Foundation 
(FSF), will be lecturing in a joint convention of IBM and Tel-Aviv
University; Fainting of Admirers-Geeks are to be expected.

  Richard M. Stallman, the father of the open source movement and the
founder of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) will arrive to Israel at
the beginning of January. Stallman will be lecturing on the FSF and the
Linux operating system as part of the GNU Linux, Free Software  Open
Source convention (http://http://www-5.ibm.com/il/news/events/gnulinux)
that is held by the Israeli branch of IBM in coordination of the
Tel-Aviv University and the Israeli Data Processing Association (ILA).

  Stallman (49), known as RMS (http://www.stallman.org), established the
GNU (a recursive acronym for GNU is Not Unix) project in 1984, by which
he created a UNIX like OS that can be distributed, copy and modify
without limitations. The GNU project was the basis for the foundation of
the FSF (an acronym for Free Software Foundation) movement which is 
manifesting in the free and unlimited usage of software. The open source
movement, which was established afterwards, is a soften and less 
radical version of the FSF.

  [ An illustration of a GNU sitting on a chair a playing a flute next to
   a conducting penguin, taken from the reservation for the convention ]

  Stallman is not only a software radical but also a publicists. He
writes a lot about international political issues
(http://www.stallman.org/#politics) and, in particular, the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict (for example, he favors the separation
fence but object (http://www.stallman.org/articles/fencing.html) to
building it in occupied territories; He was in favor of the elimination
of the HAMAS leader but thinks that the timing was stinking
(http://www.stallman.org/good-fences.html)).

  In addition, Theodore T'so, who helped the creator of Linux Linus 
Torvald in the creation of the alternative OS and is now working in the
Linux technology department of IBM will also lecture in the convention.


  So far for the translation attempt. Once again, I believe that
eliminating the HAMAS leader is an accurate translation of what is
written in the original article.
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Re: openoffice

2002-12-17 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Amir Tal wrote:

Hi Amir,
See my comments below.
I suggest that you move this discussion off linux.org.il and onto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (See http://www.openoffice.org.il for majordomo 
registration instructions).

 installed OO from binary (ver. 1.0.1), and launching the application loads it 
 with no fonts in the UI (empty menu's, empty splash etc...)

Use the spadmin program in the SO program directory to register the fonts.

 
 looking at /etc/openoffice and ~/.openoffice did not tell me much (couldn't 
 find any localization settings there.

OO 1.0.1 has no bidi localization. Use development version 643. Do not 
use development version 643C because some of the localization features 
in 643C are broken.
Regards,

 - yba


 tried to change the environment variables, no luck either.
 installed using apt-get.
 debian sid, kde 3.0.5.
 
 help...?
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Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa

2002-12-17 Thread Orna Agmon
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Shaul Karl wrote:

 
 
   The link to the IBM site you gave below doesn't mention January 9th.
 Looks like that will be more closed event. Or did I missed something? 

It seems like the TA event is completely open, while the IBM-HAIFA event 
requires an ID in order to register.

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