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[Linux-il] testing
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[Linux-il] testing again
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Re: [Linux-il] testing
Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) And update your filters.. Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing again
da .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 13:37, Ely Levy elyl...@cs.huji.ac.il wrote: If you see this email, please email me back:) Ely Levy System group Computer Science Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Have somebody already tried to do that? Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. Thank you -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
Hello Eli Can you add the flag: X-list: linux-il It use to be and I'm using it in my procmailrc Rami Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) Ely Levy System group Computer Science Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
Quoting Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz: Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) And update your filters.. Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line. One man's problem is another (wo)man's blessing. I prefer all my mailing lists to have such a short label on the subject line. It allows me to identify them easily in the mailbox on the web where mails are still unsorted by my local filters. And more importantly, identify them easily in the spam mailbox so I can salvage them. Herouth ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
Hi, On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 14:03, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) And update your filters.. Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line. This is not a problem - it is a feature ;-) Seriously though - it is a very good feature I have missed for for a long time. So far my filter filtered emails based on whether To or Cc field contained the linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il email. The approach missed a lot of email though. Please, leave the [Linux-il] prefix for subjects. -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Have somebody already tried to do that? Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. The main question is what libraries you are allowed to use. Debian has an arm version which includes browsers such as firefox and midori. Maemo platform (maemo.org) has an easy to use cross compiling environment and a few free software browsers available. -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Thank you, Matan! I'll try it too. BTW: Modori based in WebKit On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Have somebody already tried to do that? Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. The main question is what libraries you are allowed to use. Debian has an arm version which includes browsers such as firefox and midori. Maemo platform (maemo.org) has an easy to use cross compiling environment and a few free software browsers available. -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Hi, If I recall correctly, QT4 has webkit inside, and I think it already compiles well on ARM (including QTopia). How about trying that? Thanks, Hetz On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Constantine Shulyupin co...@linuxdriver.co.il wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Have somebody already tried to do that? Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. Thank you -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Thank you, Hetz I already going to test qt-embedded-linux-opensource-src-4.4.3 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If I recall correctly, QT4 has webkit inside, and I think it already compiles well on ARM (including QTopia). How about trying that? Thanks, Hetz On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Constantine Shulyupin co...@linuxdriver.co.il wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Have somebody already tried to do that? Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. Thank you -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). Well, an interesting longer term solution will be to use the Android stack of course, but being that it's MV4 you're talking about this is not the fast path I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Cross compiling sucks and MV4 is using old versions of well... everything - but you really need to supply some more details on what you tried and what didn't work. Have somebody already tried to do that? Use a build envrionment like buildroot, Ptxdist or Scratchbox. Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. The Nokia 770 is an Arm based Linux device and as it is a web tablet it obviously has a browser. They use Scratchbox - so that's a good start. Good luck, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Thank you, Gilad, I am installing maemo-scratchbox-install_4.1.2.sh and maemo-sdk-install_4.1.2.sh On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Gilad Ben-Yossef gi...@codefidence.com wrote: Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). Well, an interesting longer term solution will be to use the Android stack of course, but being that it's MV4 you're talking about this is not the fast path I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations incompatibilities among libraries. Cross compiling sucks and MV4 is using old versions of well... everything - but you really need to supply some more details on what you tried and what didn't work. Have somebody already tried to do that? Use a build envrionment like buildroot, Ptxdist or Scratchbox. Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or speed up the cross compilation. The Nokia 770 is an Arm based Linux device and as it is a web tablet it obviously has a browser. They use Scratchbox - so that's a good start. Good luck, Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef Chief Coffee Drinker Codefidence Ltd. The code is free, your time isn't.(TM) Web:http://codefidence.com Email: gi...@codefidence.com Office: +972-8-9316883 ext. 201 Fax:+972-8-9316885 Mobile: +972-52-8260388 The Doctor: Don't worry, Reinette, just a nightmare. Everyone has nightmares. Even monsters from under the bed have nightmares, don't you, monster? Reinette: What do monsters have nightmares about? The Doctor: Me! -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
I don't see it as a problem... I am more troubled by the default reply-to field - it shoulfd be the list's post address, not the original poster... .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 14:03, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz wrote: Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) And update your filters.. Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line. This is not a problem - it is a feature ;-) This was discussed (a few times) and the consensus reached was for no subject line tag. I hope this tag does not sneak in on a technicality. -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Thank you! On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM The whole of Debian is available on ARM; it contains precompiled binaries for several web browsers. However, it is not obvious that these binaries will work on the other distribution you want to use. If not, maybe at least the build-dependency information contained in the packages may be useful to resolve the version-dependency hell? http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ -- Lionel -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:38:53 Rami Addady wrote: Hello Eli Can you add the flag: X-list: linux-il It use to be and I'm using it in my procmailrc Now you have List-Id: which is more standard. Regards, Shlomi Fish Rami Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) Ely Levy System group Computer Science Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Stop Using MSIE - http://www.shlomifish.org/no-ie/ maukeI'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you trying to achieve? PerlJam mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is the last thing standing in my way! ;) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:28:09 Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. Webkit on what? Qt45? GTK? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
I see on the header something very similar: List-Id: The linux Israeli users list linux-il.cs.huji.ac.il List-Unsubscribe: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/options/linux-il, mailto:linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il List-Post: mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il List-Help: mailto:linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il, mailto:linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il?subject=subscribe SWEET On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:38:53 Rami Addady wrote: Hello Eli Can you add the flag: X-list: linux-il It use to be and I'm using it in my procmailrc Rami Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) Ely Levy System group Computer Science Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:51:32PM +0200, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Seriously though - it is a very good feature I have missed for for a long time. So far my filter filtered emails based on whether To or Cc field contained the linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il email. The approach missed a lot of email though. I originally filtered them by the sender (linux-il-bou...@...). Not you have standard mailing list headers and you can filter by e.g. List-Id . -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM The whole of Debian is available on ARM; it contains precompiled binaries for several web browsers. However, it is not obvious that these binaries will work on the other distribution you want to use. If not, maybe at least the build-dependency information contained in the packages may be useful to resolve the version-dependency hell? http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ -- Lionel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
Finally, I successfully compiled and ran WebKit from qt-embedded-linux-opensource-src-4.4.3 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Diego Iastrubni elc...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:28:09 Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. Webkit on what? Qt45? GTK? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Constantine Shulyupin Freelance Embedded Linux Engineer 054-4234440 http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) As soon as Ely send me the list password (right now, I'm only getting the spams and moderator requests), I'll try to restore things to backward compatible as much as possible. Please your patience in the mean while. We twice missed each other yesterday. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il