Netfilter module name oddity

2009-05-02 Thread Ira Abramov
Maybe I slept through some old thread about this, but nothing came out
of searching Google about this: why do I have so many similarly named
modules in my kernel? who is the clown who decided to break some very
basic naming conventions of module filenames and give me a small heart
attack?

10809   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_connmark.ko
12079   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_CONNMARK.ko
10066   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_dscp.ko
11193   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_DSCP.ko
9885/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_mark.ko
10903   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_MARK.ko
10137   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_rateest.ko
13381   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_RATEEST.ko
9193/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_tcpmss.ko
12506   /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_TCPMSS.ko
9141/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ecn.ko
9975/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ECN.ko
8762/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ttl.ko
9232/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TTL.ko


At first glance I was sure it's some sort of a weird rootkit attempt,
but apparently it's all kosher and I'm the last silly person on the
planet to notice.

Now I just need to know why this makes sense to whoever is maintaining
this code (Rusty?) and how come I have not found any info about this
with any combination of relevant search terms...


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Re: Netfilter module name oddity

2009-05-02 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ira Abramov lists-linux...@ira.abramov.org writes:

 Maybe I slept through some old thread about this, but nothing came out
 of searching Google about this: why do I have so many similarly named
 modules in my kernel? 

snip

 9141/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ecn.ko
 9975/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ECN.ko
 8762/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ttl.ko
 9232/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-amd64/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_TTL.ko

I just went and looked at the code, and my guess, based on 

http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/net/netfilter/Makefile
http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/net/ipv4/netfilter/Makefile

and a quick glance at

http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ecn.c
http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.29/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ECN.c

is that the lower case modules (such as ipt_ecn.ko) are those
responsible for matching rules (e.g., matching an ECN flag) while the
upper case modules (ipt_ECN.ko) are responsible for targets (e.g.,
modifying the ECN flag).

As for Googling, my first attempt to search for netfilter module
naming convention yielded

http://jengelh.medozas.de/documents/Netfilter_Modules.pdf

at #2 from the top, and the very beginning of this document supports
my guess.

Hope it helps,

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Linux Friendly Netbook?

2009-05-02 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi all,

I am writing to both lists because I think the problem of bouncing
mails on the Linux-IL list still persists - at least for me...

I want to buy a Linux friendly netbbok, preferably Ubuntu 8.04 friendly.

My requirements:

Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, comfortable keyboard.

I'll use it mainly for on the go Media Player and some basic browsing.

I want the Bluetooth support to be able to connect my stereo Bluetooth
headset and transfer files via OBEX to my Nokia E71 smart phone.

Thanks!

.::.

Amichai Rotman

UIN#: 6401746
Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net]



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Re: Linux Friendly Netbook?

2009-05-02 Thread geoffrey mendelson


On May 3, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:


Hi all,

I am writing to both lists because I think the problem of bouncing
mails on the Linux-IL list still persists - at least for me...

I want to buy a Linux friendly netbbok, preferably Ubuntu 8.04  
friendly.


My requirements:

Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, comfortable keyboard.

I'll use it mainly for on the go Media Player and some basic browsing.

I want the Bluetooth support to be able to connect my stereo Bluetooth
headset and transfer files via OBEX to my Nokia E71 smart phone.



I have an MSI Wind U100. They cost around 2300 NIS with the 6 cell  
battery (don't get the 3),
2g RAM and a 160G hard drive. Wifi, bluetooth, etc are included. It  
has 3 USB ports, but note that it does NOT have an RS232 or Parallel  
port, so if you need to interface that something that needs it, you  
are out of luck. Many of those devices don't work with USB convertors,  
but they are now rare enough that most people won't even know what I  
am talking about.


I run BSD on mine, but it does sort of run Ubuntu. I had an 8.10.2  
memory key set up for it and
it did everything except Wifi. (I did not test the camera). The Wifi  
driver was released a few weeks before 8.10 was, so it was not  
included. A hard disk installation would not have that problem, you  
can add the wifi drivers in a minute with an ethernet connection.


When 9.0.4 came out, I downloaded and booted from the live disk. It  
worked fine with Wifi, but the build a bootable USB memory key program  
works, but the memory key is unusable due to a kernel bug.


I also installed it on a desktop and after the first update, my  
ethernet stopped working (the file that defined the interface suddenly  
no longer had it in it).


I tired to run 8.0.4 LTS on a server and found that so many things  
never worked that I needed, I was unable to use it. It now happily  
runs 8.10, but there were bugs that had strange work arounds that I  
had to research to get them to work.


IMHO if you are  using Ubuntu as a replacement for Windows it's a good  
choice, but if you do anything out of the ordinary, you can see it  
suffers from the same disease Red Hat Linux suffered from 10 years  
ago. (get it out the door, worry about the bugs later)


Geoff.

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Re: Linux Friendly Netbook?

2009-05-02 Thread Ori Idan
I am running Ubuntu 8.04 on Lenovo 3000 N100.
Everything I need work.
I did not test the fingerprint detector and modem.
Wifi works out of the box.

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Ori Idan


On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il wrote:

 Hi all,

 I am writing to both lists because I think the problem of bouncing
 mails on the Linux-IL list still persists - at least for me...

 I want to buy a Linux friendly netbbok, preferably Ubuntu 8.04 friendly.

 My requirements:

 Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, comfortable keyboard.

 I'll use it mainly for on the go Media Player and some basic browsing.

 I want the Bluetooth support to be able to connect my stereo Bluetooth
 headset and transfer files via OBEX to my Nokia E71 smart phone.

 Thanks!

 .::.

 Amichai Rotman

 UIN#: 6401746
 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
 Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net]


 

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