ntpdate and Israel local time

2010-05-27 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hello,
  On my desktop at home, when I want to to update the local time (I
live in israel) I run:
ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
And it work OK.
However, there is a server at my work place which I am responsible
for. When I run:
ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
it sets the time to 7 hours earlier (I mean, instead 19:00, it is 12:00).
I assume this has something to do with Time zones, but this machine
has no X windows installed at all so I don't have a GUI for setting time zones.
What causes this error ?
What should I do ? any advice ?

rgs,
DS

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Re: ntpdate and Israel local time

2010-05-27 Thread geoffrey mendelson


On May 27, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Dan Shimshoni wrote:


Hello,
 On my desktop at home, when I want to to update the local time (I
live in israel) I run:
ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
And it work OK.
However, there is a server at my work place which I am responsible
for. When I run:
ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
it sets the time to 7 hours earlier (I mean, instead 19:00, it is  
12:00).

I assume this has something to do with Time zones, but this machine
has no X windows installed at all so I don't have a GUI for setting  
time zones.

What causes this error ?
What should I do ? any advice ?



/etc/localtime is set to EST/EDT (US east coast)

ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Jerusalem /etc/localtime

Note that UBUNTU (and possibly debian) use a hard link or a copy of  
the file instead of symlink.


Geoff.

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Re: ntpdate and Israel local time

2010-05-27 Thread shimi
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dan Shimshoni danshi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
  On my desktop at home, when I want to to update the local time (I
 live in israel) I run:
 ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
 And it work OK.
 However, there is a server at my work place which I am responsible
 for. When I run:
 ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
 it sets the time to 7 hours earlier (I mean, instead 19:00, it is 12:00).
 I assume this has something to do with Time zones, but this machine
 has no X windows installed at all so I don't have a GUI for setting time
 zones.
 What causes this error ?
 What should I do ? any advice ?


'date'  will show you the time including the timezone. for example:

$ date
Thu May 27 21:47:50 IDT 2010

(IDT = Israel Daylight-savings Time)

If your timezone is wrong, you can:
cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Israel /etc/localtime

And then try date again. the time will probably change, and you'll need to
re-set it with 'date' to the correct time:

date MonthDayHourMinute

Of course you could simply sync your synchronization server with an accurate
time which makes the most sense: an Internet NTP server, or in the lack of
Internet access, something independent (i.e. a GPS receiver...)

HTH,

-- Shimi
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Re: ntpdate and Israel local time

2010-05-27 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday, 27 בMay 2010 21:50:12 geoffrey mendelson wrote:
 On May 27, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Dan Shimshoni wrote:
  ...
  However, there is a server at my work place which I am responsible
  for. When I run:
  ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
  it sets the time to 7 hours earlier (I mean, instead 19:00, it is  
  12:00).
 ...
 /etc/localtime is set to EST/EDT (US east coast)
 
 ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Jerusalem /etc/localtime
 
 Note that UBUNTU (and possibly debian) use a hard link or a copy of  
 the file instead of symlink.

RedHat/Centos/Fedora also create a copy and for a good reason: /usr
may be on a separate partition, in which case /etc/localtime is a
dangling link during early boot phases until /usr is mounted.

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Re: ntpdate and Israel local time

2010-05-27 Thread Guy Sheffer
In Debian/Ubuntu you can use:
$ tzselect
Then when you got that set up run (as root):
$ ntpdate-debian



On 5/27/10, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote:
 On Thursday, 27 בMay 2010 21:50:12 geoffrey mendelson wrote:
 On May 27, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Dan Shimshoni wrote:
  ...
  However, there is a server at my work place which I am responsible
  for. When I run:
  ntpdate -s ntpserver.huji.ac.il
  it sets the time to 7 hours earlier (I mean, instead 19:00, it is
  12:00).
 ...
 /etc/localtime is set to EST/EDT (US east coast)

 ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Jerusalem /etc/localtime

 Note that UBUNTU (and possibly debian) use a hard link or a copy of
 the file instead of symlink.

 RedHat/Centos/Fedora also create a copy and for a good reason: /usr
 may be on a separate partition, in which case /etc/localtime is a
 dangling link during early boot phases until /usr is mounted.

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Re: ntpdate and Israel local time

2010-05-27 Thread Amos Shapira
On 28 May 2010 04:37, Dan Shimshoni danshi...@gmail.com wrote:
 However, there is a server at my work place which I am responsible
...
 has no X windows installed at all so I don't have a GUI for setting time 
 zones.

If you are responsible for a Linux server, or any Linux machine beyond
your desktop, you better learn command line tools pronto.

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Re: ntpdate and Israel local time

2010-05-27 Thread Herouth Maoz


On 27/05/2010, at 21:50, shimi wrote:

Of course you could simply sync your synchronization server with an  
accurate time which makes the most sense: an Internet NTP server, or  
in the lack of Internet access, something independent (i.e. a GPS  
receiver...)




In fact, that's what he was doing. His issue is that ntp synchs the  
machine's clock with UTC. So in fact his internal clock is already  
correct. All he needs to do is set the proper time zone, as you said  
yourself.


Herouth

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