Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-30 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 03:59:52PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 06:46:50PM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote:
 
  On May 29, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ira Abramov wrote:

  How much is going to be broken?
 
 Any script that assumes that the Linux version number is
 2.6.something . I'm sure there are plenty of those around. IIRC I
 wrote one or two myself. Sadly I can't really recall where.

3.0-rc1 released. And just to demonstrate that scriptary brekage,
http://kernel.org still does not show it. Go grab it from
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/ (or from git).

Happy hacking :-)

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Re: RMS clarifies, backlash was unneeded

2011-05-30 Thread linux.il

 Moreover, he says the ban imposed on him is NOT Israel in its entirety, but
 only the Universities (the private Shenkar College seems kosher according to
 him). The weird but sensible thing to do is find lecture halls outside the
 universities and there would be no conflict.


So Ariel College should be OK?

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Re: RMS clarifies, backlash was unneeded

2011-05-30 Thread Dotan Shavit

On 05/30/2011 10:24 AM, linux.il wrote:

Moreover, he says the ban imposed on him is NOT Israel in its entirety, but
only the Universities (the private Shenkar College seems kosher according to
him). The weird but sensible thing to do is find lecture halls outside the
universities and there would be no conflict.


So Ariel College should be OK?

Thats an interesting question :)
but why are you so embarrassed asking it?

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[HAIFUX LECTURE - CANCELLED] Today's lecture is cancelled

2011-05-30 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Dear all,

Due to mechanical problems with his car, Tomer will not be able to
give his talk today, and thus, the Haifux lecture is cancelled.

The new date will be published later.

See you in the next lecture in two weeks,
Orr

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Culmus fonts on WeTab (MeeGo)

2011-05-30 Thread Yosef Meller

Hello,

So, I just bought a brand new WeTab, a device based on MeeGo. I bought 
it in Germany, and now I'm trying to get it to speak Hebrew. My first 
step is to install the culmus fonts so I can st least see Hebrew sites, 
but whatever I do, I can't get them recognized.


What I did:
I untarred the latest package (0.120) into /usr/share/X11/fonts/ and 
symlinked to it in /etx/X11/fontpath.d/ (the place indicated by `xset 
q`). I made sure that it has all permissions and ownerships like the 
other font dirs.


Restarting the device, the font was not recognized. I tried using 
fc-cache on the directory, adding it with xset +fp ...; xset rehash, but 
the fonts don't show up neither in fc-list nor in xlsfonts. I also tried 
running mkfontsdir, which produced a fonts.dir file containing the 
string '0' and nothing more.


How can I debug this? Is there any way I can have a verbose output of 
what directories are searched and why they are dropped? There's nothing 
in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Or does anybody know what I'm doing wrong?


Thanks in advance,
Yosef.

PS - I'm doing all those experiments in a virtualbox image of the WeTab, 
I want to get it right before I abuse my actual hardware :)



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Re: Culmus fonts on WeTab (MeeGo)

2011-05-30 Thread Dov Grobgeld
The xset mechanism is obsolete during the last years and have been
superseded by the concept of client side font. For Gtk and Qt this is
handled by fontconfig . To see the fonts that fontconfig supports do:

  fc-list

To add additional fonts, it is typically enough to copy the font to ~/.fonts
. You can then check with fc-list that you managed to add the fonts.

Another option is to make use of the fact that MeeGo is rpm based and just
grab a rpm file from a different distribution and try to install it.  Since
there are no binary executables in the font rpms, it should be pretty
straightforward unless the directory structure is different on MeeGo.

Please give us a review of  the WeTab and how you manage with Hebrew and
BiDi.

Regards,
Dov

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 17:52, Yosef Meller mell...@netvision.net.ilwrote:

 Hello,

 So, I just bought a brand new WeTab, a device based on MeeGo. I bought it
 in Germany, and now I'm trying to get it to speak Hebrew. My first step is
 to install the culmus fonts so I can st least see Hebrew sites, but whatever
 I do, I can't get them recognized.

 What I did:
 I untarred the latest package (0.120) into /usr/share/X11/fonts/ and
 symlinked to it in /etx/X11/fontpath.d/ (the place indicated by `xset q`). I
 made sure that it has all permissions and ownerships like the other font
 dirs.

 Restarting the device, the font was not recognized. I tried using fc-cache
 on the directory, adding it with xset +fp ...; xset rehash, but the fonts
 don't show up neither in fc-list nor in xlsfonts. I also tried running
 mkfontsdir, which produced a fonts.dir file containing the string '0' and
 nothing more.

 How can I debug this? Is there any way I can have a verbose output of what
 directories are searched and why they are dropped? There's nothing in
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Or does anybody know what I'm doing wrong?

 Thanks in advance,
 Yosef.

 PS - I'm doing all those experiments in a virtualbox image of the WeTab, I
 want to get it right before I abuse my actual hardware :)


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Re: Culmus fonts on WeTab (MeeGo)

2011-05-30 Thread Tomer Cohen
For cases where there is distro package, I'd recommend extracting fonts to
~/fonts/ and restarting the session. I'm using this way in order to install
new fonts with Unicode 6.0 glyphs.



2011/5/30 Dov Grobgeld dov.grobg...@gmail.com

 The xset mechanism is obsolete during the last years and have been
 superseded by the concept of client side font. For Gtk and Qt this is
 handled by fontconfig . To see the fonts that fontconfig supports do:

   fc-list

 To add additional fonts, it is typically enough to copy the font to
 ~/.fonts . You can then check with fc-list that you managed to add the
 fonts.

 Another option is to make use of the fact that MeeGo is rpm based and just
 grab a rpm file from a different distribution and try to install it.  Since
 there are no binary executables in the font rpms, it should be pretty
 straightforward unless the directory structure is different on MeeGo.

 Please give us a review of  the WeTab and how you manage with Hebrew and
 BiDi.

 Regards,
 Dov


 On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 17:52, Yosef Meller mell...@netvision.net.ilwrote:

 Hello,

 So, I just bought a brand new WeTab, a device based on MeeGo. I bought it
 in Germany, and now I'm trying to get it to speak Hebrew. My first step is
 to install the culmus fonts so I can st least see Hebrew sites, but whatever
 I do, I can't get them recognized.

 What I did:
 I untarred the latest package (0.120) into /usr/share/X11/fonts/ and
 symlinked to it in /etx/X11/fontpath.d/ (the place indicated by `xset q`). I
 made sure that it has all permissions and ownerships like the other font
 dirs.

 Restarting the device, the font was not recognized. I tried using fc-cache
 on the directory, adding it with xset +fp ...; xset rehash, but the fonts
 don't show up neither in fc-list nor in xlsfonts. I also tried running
 mkfontsdir, which produced a fonts.dir file containing the string '0' and
 nothing more.

 How can I debug this? Is there any way I can have a verbose output of what
 directories are searched and why they are dropped? There's nothing in
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Or does anybody know what I'm doing wrong?

 Thanks in advance,
 Yosef.

 PS - I'm doing all those experiments in a virtualbox image of the WeTab, I
 want to get it right before I abuse my actual hardware :)


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Re: Culmus fonts on WeTab (MeeGo)

2011-05-30 Thread Yosef Meller

בתאריך 30/05/11 19:42, ציטוט Dov Grobgeld:

The xset mechanism is obsolete during the last years and have been
superseded by the concept of client side font. For Gtk and Qt this is
handled by fontconfig . To see the fonts that fontconfig supports do:

   fc-list

To add additional fonts, it is typically enough to copy the font to
~/.fonts . You can then check with fc-list that you managed to add the
fonts.


This works, and I found out I can add a systemwide dir to 
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf or drop a config file for it in /etc/fonts/conf.d, 
which is what I'd do if I package it.


[snip]


Please give us a review of  the WeTab and how you manage with Hebrew and
BiDi.


Planned, of course. Once I finish with the matchbox-keyboard, I hope 
I'll write something on Linmagazine.




Regards,
Dov

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 17:52, Yosef Meller mell...@netvision.net.il
mailto:mell...@netvision.net.il wrote:

Hello,

So, I just bought a brand new WeTab, a device based on MeeGo. I
bought it in Germany, and now I'm trying to get it to speak Hebrew.
My first step is to install the culmus fonts so I can st least see
Hebrew sites, but whatever I do, I can't get them recognized.

What I did:
I untarred the latest package (0.120) into /usr/share/X11/fonts/ and
symlinked to it in /etx/X11/fontpath.d/ (the place indicated by
`xset q`). I made sure that it has all permissions and ownerships
like the other font dirs.

Restarting the device, the font was not recognized. I tried using
fc-cache on the directory, adding it with xset +fp ...; xset rehash,
but the fonts don't show up neither in fc-list nor in xlsfonts. I
also tried running mkfontsdir, which produced a fonts.dir file
containing the string '0' and nothing more.

How can I debug this? Is there any way I can have a verbose output
of what directories are searched and why they are dropped? There's
nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Or does anybody know what I'm doing
wrong?

Thanks in advance,
Yosef.

PS - I'm doing all those experiments in a virtualbox image of the
WeTab, I want to get it right before I abuse my actual hardware :)


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Re: [HAIFUX LECTURE - CANCELLED] Today's lecture is cancelled

2011-05-30 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 30 בMay 2011 17:37:18 Orr Dunkelman wrote:
 Due to mechanical problems with his car, Tomer will not be able to
 give his talk today, and thus, the Haifux lecture is cancelled.

WHAT? Now a boycot on Haifux? Next he'll want to fix his car
at the Shenkar College! Do you think Hamakor should raise
a car-maintenance fund to prevent this academic boycot?

:-)

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