Re: RMS

2023-12-13 Thread borissh1983
On Wednesday, 13 December 2023 14:30:37 IST Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > In the view of Lifnei iver,
> > 
> > Recently RMS had shared an alleged PFLP affiliated  organization calls to 
> > prevent arms deals to Israel, PFLP  participated in the Simhat torah 
> > massacre.  
> > https://www.stallman.org/archives/2023-sep-dec.html#9_December_2023_(Legal_challenges_over_arms_exports)
> > The organisation had excused the perpetrators of the Simhat Torah  
> > massacre.  https://www.alhaq.org/advocacy/21800.html . 
> > 
> > For my understanding RMS is actively assisting to the other side during the 
> > war against Israel.
> 
> I suggest to write to him 

That would be a second Lifnei iver case in the same thread.

IANAL, and because of that at this stage, I believe  it is better to speak with 
someone who is well versed with the Israeli criminal law before suggestion such 
kind of action or following this advice. 


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Re: RMS

2023-12-13 Thread Marc Volovic (me)
RMS (besides being a rather egregious person in general) is, in this case, 
neither supporting nor not supporting anyone's enemies.

He's calling to reduce arms sales to a state that engages in wholesale 
slaughter of civillians, just like its enemies.
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Re: RMS

2023-12-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: borissh1...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 13:48:13 +0200
> Message-ID-Hash: W5NHGXQZJVMKFFHYYY5PG4X74ONPMXEH
> 
> In the view of Lifnei iver,
> 
> Recently RMS had shared an alleged PFLP affiliated  organization calls to 
> prevent arms deals to Israel, PFLP  participated in the Simhat torah 
> massacre.  
> https://www.stallman.org/archives/2023-sep-dec.html#9_December_2023_(Legal_challenges_over_arms_exports)
> The organisation had excused the perpetrators of the Simhat Torah  massacre.  
> https://www.alhaq.org/advocacy/21800.html . 
> 
> For my understanding RMS is actively assisting to the other side during the 
> war against Israel.

I don't see how you understood that from a single line of text which
just conveys a simple fact: an action done by PFLP.  Maybe RMS does
what you think, maybe he doesn't; to know for sure, I suggest to write
to him and ask him to make his standpoint on this clear.  Assuming
that he is "actively assisting to the other side during the war
against Israel" on such weak evidence runs the risk of making false
accusations.

And that is even before we consider the possibility that maybe he is
with us wrt whether ours is a just cause, but disagrees with the
actual methods and tactics.

All of that should be cleared up by asking him a direct question.  I
know him well enough to assure you that you will get a direct answer.
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Re: RMS

2023-12-13 Thread borissh1983
In the view of Lifnei iver,

Recently RMS had shared an alleged PFLP affiliated  organization calls to 
prevent arms deals to Israel, PFLP  participated in the Simhat torah massacre.  
https://www.stallman.org/archives/2023-sep-dec.html#9_December_2023_(Legal_challenges_over_arms_exports)
The organisation had excused the perpetrators of the Simhat Torah  massacre.  
https://www.alhaq.org/advocacy/21800.html . 

For my understanding RMS is actively assisting to the other side during the war 
against Israel.

People should do with that information what they like. 

> On Wed, May 18, 2022, 15:31  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Julian.
> >
> > On Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:43:47 IDT Julian Daich wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >RMS is coming to Tel Aviv. I am receving him. He is looking for a place to
> > >give  a prentation in a mayor university on Msy 31 st or June 1st. Is
> > there
> > >here somebody from TAU or HUJI that can help to organize it? He will no
> > >chsrge for his talk.
> >
> > Given RMS's actions in recent years,  I would have checked  with  someone
> > who is familiar with the local law, if having direct connection, or
> > assisting  RMS is not a liability or against the law.
> >
> > IANAL.
> >
> >
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