Re: Linux on Android related question
Hi David, On יום שישי, 26 בדצמבר 2014 15:54:12 David Harel wrote: My son purchased an Android phone in China (against my recommendation). It's a phone by Coolpad the module is 7620l You should have a talk to your son ;-) Apparently the Android installation for Chinese is different than what we are used to get in Western countries. No Google account, no Google play store and it seems that all network activities went through China (for inspection?, really slow on network activity). Actually... not. GApps is not officially part of AOSP (which in my book is the definition of android... but the world is moving and my definition is becoming less correct as the name of Android advances in the english alphabet). Nokia/MS did the same. Jolla are going this as well. The Android emulators usually do this as well. It took me a while to find English Rom for it and then some time to root it (temporarily - will explain later). Now I got Google account and other Western stuff but still: 1. Root is removed after reboot 2. Google play services crashes and so does the address book sync operation. Looking at the article: http://elinux.org/Android_Booting my questions: 1. Any idea where I can find strace for Android (based on Arm CPU) Just compile it statically with your favorite ARM toolchain. Then push it into /data/local/tmp (adb push strace-static-ftw /data/local/tmp; adb shell chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/strace-static-ftw) BTW: in this page http://elinux.org/Android_Tools which point here for instructions on building: http://discuz-android.blogspot.co.il/2008/01/create-google-android-strace-tool.html and here for downloads: http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/18/android-runtime-strace http://benno.id.au/android/strace I still recommend compiling your own. 2. Can I go into Console mode ? In case I fiddle with init*.rc scripts and break the OS (for manual recovery of those scripts). You need a serial console for this, good luck with that. The console you get when you run over adb is running using a limited account... but it might be the way for you to root the device. Just for reference, here is how to get a serial console on nexus5: http://www.abclinuxu.cz/blog/Lorris/2013/12/serial-console-on-google-nexus-5 And this is on Galaxy S4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901376 Not trivial! 3. The su command (and copies of it that had SUID bit set on it) were deleted during boot. Any idea what could have done that? Do you put it on /bin or /sbin? Those directories are not mapped to a real device, but are part of the initrd. On reboot they are restored. Not a good place to save stuff. I wrote about something similar (Hebrew) a few days/weeks ago. Have a good reading: http://cucomania.mooo.com/he/posts/349 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: languages in Google Maps
OSM is a great promise. But not usable in a real world. 1) The servers are slow. Loading maps takes for ever. 2) Using tilemaps is nice, but this maps that rotating the map will not fix the text location according to the orientation of your map. 3) They are very ugly. To the original answer: append this to the URL ?hl=es ?hl=iw ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: detecting what does a reboot
And when everything else fails - good old serial console and another machine to capture the last dieing words of this server. On 06/08/2014 01:21 PM, Rabin Yasharzadehe wrote: you can try with auditctl auditctl -w /tmp/1 -p wa -k write_or_access *-- Rabin* On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:11 PM, ik ido...@gmail.com mailto:ido...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have a server (old centos 5) that does sometimes few times a reboot, in random hours. I removed non root permissions to execute halt, reboot and shutdown, but I wish also to try and track down what causing that reboot. Is there a way to audit-trail or just log any kind of rebooting request (including system calls), and finding out what or whom execute it ? Thanks, Ido ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il mailto:Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Chinese KitKat
On 01/05/2014 12:22 PM, Eli Marmor wrote: By the way (off topic): Does anybody have any experience with generic Android versions? (such as CyanogenMod, which Mord mentioned) There is not such thing as a generic android version. The amount of propietary crap available on Android devices make it impossible to run it from free software. As the drivers are user space, there is usually no ABI problem and thus modders just port them to the stock image. The kernel is always modified, and usually not released (yes, screw GPL). The bootloaders are sealed. Even if you manage to get this working - Android is your best pal. Using Desktop Linux apps is a pure dog's shite on touch screen. A sound advice - if you don't see the device you want to buy on Cyanogen's list, don't buy it. In 2 years it will be useles if you cannot put newer software on it. This is from someone who has a GalaxyS1 which is running Cyanogenmod from git, and a Transformer that is running stock (since the support for it sux balls). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux with Android MTP
On 12/08/2013 12:12 PM, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I never got MTP to work with a Galaxy S3 on Mageia 3. I've tried mtpfs and kio-mtp with no success. I may be doing something wrong, but since these are my kids' phones, it was not really urgent. But now I'm about to move from A Galaxy S to Galaxy S4 so the problem of connecting to backup the phone is more urgent. When shit hits the fan, I use adb pull /data/balbla.txt. This WORKS. And yes. MPT on Android is a piece of shite. I miss good old USB mass storage from my GalaxyS1. BTW: keep the GalaxyS. Today my Nexus4 decided to dump on me, and now I cannot even install cyanogenmod on it. The old Sansung is still working. Like a charm. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ההרצאה: הפלת פטנטים באמצעות קוד פתוח שקדם להם
On יום ראשון, 4 באוגוסט 2013 13:18:42 Shlomi Fish wrote: כפי שאולי חלקכם יודעים, נוכחותי בכנס, ובכלל זה הרצאה שהייתי אמור לתת, נמנעו עקב פטירה במשפחה. בזמן שהייתי אמור להרצות, הייתי עסוק בסידורים ללוויה, שהתקיימה מאוחר יותר באותו היום. (הקירבה היא מדרגה שניה, ולכן אני לא מיושבי השבעה). אז ראשית, רציתי להתנצל בפני כל מי שתכנן לשמוע אותי והתאכזב. היות ופטור בלא כלום - אי אפשר, אני מציע שאתן אותה במסגרת אחד המיט-אפס (meetup.com) הרבים שנערכים במרכז הארץ, כמובן עם כניסה חופשית לכל ובחינם. אני כרגע התנדבתי להיות המארגן של שוחרי הפרל התל אביביים ( http://telaviv.pm.org/ ) ומחפש אנשים שירצו במסגרת זו (אנו נפגשים במכללת שנקר ברמת גן באחד מימי רביעי בתקווה כל חודש). בכל מקרה, אני אישית אשמח לארח אותך שם, אבל ייתכן שנושא ההרצאה שלך אינו טכני מספיק וייתכן שהוא פוליטי מדי עבורנו. בכל מקרה, אם אתה מעוניין להרצות אצלנו, אז אנא הודע לי ואראה כבר. ובאותו מקום... מכללת שנכר, יום שלישי הראשון בכל חודש... מפדש של קהילת Qt. אני בטוח שאנשים ישמח לשמוע אותך. תתפוס אותי בפרטי אם אתה מעוניין. תנחומי. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Retooling my mail server
On יום חמישי, 18 ביולי 2013 18:32:46 Ira Abramov wrote: The next component to install after ditching Gmail as far as I can, will be OwnCloud so I can ditch DropBox and friends as well. Got any pros and cons to share? I'll appreciate this too. Just a note: owncloud is quite crap for handling anything but files. The calendar and the contacts apps do not work well on my Android phone. This means: - I am unable to sync contacts at all - Calendar works one way only: I modify on site, and see on the phone. Not really what they are selling... and the apps are non-free for Android. I do need to test it against desktop tools as well. But I have no high hopes. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linking problems with several static libraries
On שבת, 13 ביולי 2013 21:42:12 Valery Reznic wrote: And I was under impression that ld was supposed to handle such kind of cyclic dependencies. ld indeed able to handle it. From ld man page: -( archives -) --start-group archives --end-group The archives should be a list of archive files. They may be either explicit file names, or -l options. The specified archives are searched repeatedly until no new unde- fined references are created. Normally, an archive is searched only once in the order that it is specified on the command line. If a symbol in that archive is needed to resolve an undefined sym- bol referred to by an object in an archive that appears later on the command line, the linker would not be able to resolve that ref- erence. By grouping the archives, they all be searched repeatedly until all possible references are resolved. Using this option has a significant performance cost. It is best to use it only when there are unavoidable circular references between two or more archives. Regards, Valery mmm.. here lies another problem. I am using ndk-build, which kinda prevents you from using direcly the LD command. You tell it which libraries to link and it creates the LD/CXX command. I ended hackign inside LOCAL_LDFLAGS, which worked. I also tried using -Wl,--whole-archive and this is what I got: /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_fixsfdi.o) (.text+0x2e): unresolvable R_X86_64_PLT32 relocation against symbol `__fixunssfti@@GCC_3.0' /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_fixsfdi.o) (.text+0x12): unresolvable R_X86_64_PLT32 relocation against symbol `__fixunssfti@@GCC_3.0' /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.3/libgcc.a(_fixdfdi.o) (.text+0x2f): unresolvable R_X86_64_PLT32 relocation against symbol `__fixunsdfti@@GCC_3.0' and also some references to symbols inside one of the libraries. Again - wierd. Anyway, I can only say that ndk-build is a toy build-system, as much as qmake. It works, until it breaks and you need to workaround it. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: linking problems with several static libraries
On יום רביעי, 10 ביולי 2013 21:43:54 Omer Zak wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 21:31 +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: My program needs liba, which in turn needs libb.. which in turn needs libk. The last libk needs symbols from liba.. and this is where it gets funky. While linking g++ complains that symbols are missing ... and from ar+nm I see that those symbols are avarilable on liba. You did not say if those libraries are your employer's or provided by 3rd parties. If the libraries are your employer's, then the long range solution is to restructure (another term is refactor) them to eliminate the circular dependencies from which you suffer. This would also make it possible to develop unit tests for the libraries and for your project in general. If the libraries are provided by a 3rd party, then report a bug (!) against them, and have them refactor the libraries to fix the bug. All libraries are 3rd party libs. Even the parts of code I have are obsfucated. Really nice trick. And I was under impression that ld was supposed to handle such kind of cyclic dependencies. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
linking problems with several static libraries
Hi all, I have been figthing this nice problem at work, which I would like someone to help me. Basically, I have several static libs (liba... libk) which I need to link to my program. My program needs liba, which in turn needs libb.. which in turn needs libk. The last libk needs symbols from liba.. and this is where it gets funky. While linking g++ complains that symbols are missing ... and from ar+nm I see that those symbols are avarilable on liba. My solution was to g++ -o blabla $(OBJS) liba.a libb.a l...libk.a liba.a I know that using -L -l does not work as well, at I do need to link liba.a twice. I can reproduce this on Ubuntu 10.04 64bit (default toolchain, gcc 4.6) and in Android's NDK (using all availble toolchains 4.4.3, 4.6 and clang 3.2). Can anyone explain why am I seeing this problem? - diego ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Android phone question
On יום שני, 26 בנובמבר 2012 16:38:30 Steve G. wrote: Got myself a Galaxy Mini (was going to get Pocket, but Mini was discounted in Bug for Black Monday, Cyber Friday, or some such holiday). Does all I need, more, quite well. Screen not ideal size, but frankly, the latest iPhones and Galaxy models are getting too big to be used as phones, and are too small to be used as computers. Good you took the Mini, as Pocket is *way* too small. On screen keyboard will be useless. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [YBA] Lenovo z580 BISO setup horror story
On יום ראשון, 19 באוגוסט 2012 22:37:24 Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Dear Colleagues, I recently purchased a Lenovo Z580 Ideapad from Macsanei Hashmal. I replaced the 750GB HD with a 240GB SSD and installed Squeeze. The installation succeeded but I was unable to log out - had to hold power button to force off. Same story with Wheezy. Installed Ubuntu 12.04. Seemed to work fine but I am too old to deal wuth Unity, so I installed Mint Xfce. After installing Mint I am not able to get into the BIOS setup menu no matter what I press, either the main power key or the recovery key, whether F2 or F12, I always get to a limited boot menu that is not editable. If I connect an ethernet cable, it tries to PXE, then TFTP boot until I press escape - not so secure. Can't find the CMOS battery if there is one and can't find service documentation that would tell me where it is. Re-installed the original 750GB HD and booted into Windows 7 Home Edition. Downloaded new BIOS from support.lenovo.com but it wont install. ... and? Is it working now? What have you done? I assume this list is full os Lenovo users, and a FAIL is very important to hear. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: which filesystem
On שבת 11 אוגוסט 2012 14:59:29 Marc Volovic wrote: IMHO - xfs Sent from my iPhone I am sorry. I cannot take you seriously when I read those two sentences together. Please read chapters 3, 5 and 8 of the vim manual as atonement. Here are the links, don't even waste time looking for them: http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_03.html http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_05.html http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_08.html ;-) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: mobile service providers updates
On יום שלישי 07 אוגוסט 2012 18:23:26 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Thanks for all the fixes, On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Hi I figured I'd submit an update to the service providers database[1]. From a quick search (using e.g. [2] and [3]) I got the following. Any comments and fixes before I submit it? I have seen that cyanogenmod also has a similar list. Do you think they are separated - or cyanogenmod are pulling data from freedesktop? I think that cyanogenmod's list will be more correct, or at least tested. (I had a link to it a few days ago, if anyone can give me the git URL I will be happier) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
writing data over RS232
Hi all, I have been assigned at work to write a specific protocol between two machines, which eventually will be over RS232. As part of the development I decided to write it on linux, and simulate the communication using a named pipe. In theroy, it should be trivail since the protocol only needs to know about the FD to read/write to, correct? Wrong. I face two problems (maybe one, as both problems seem similar): When I try to read from the PC (Ubuntu 12.04, 64bit), the read just aborts returning 0. If I run the application several times, I somtimes see that the app can read ONE byte. Sometimes. When I write from the PC, and read from the device (Andriod, 2.3.7, Linux 2.6.38.8) the android device reads garbage. I mean, the byte count is wrong, and the content is usually garbage. When I connect microcom (busybox) on Android (actually microcom /dev/ttyS3 | hexdump -C) I can see that the bytes sent are mostly arriving, however maybe times bytes are missing, and sometimes the same bytes are read twice (I sent testing 123 and read testing 12323). Some remarks: - ttyS* are opened on both sides using open(file, O_RDWR|O_NOCTTY) - speeds are set on both side using csetispeed(to, B1900);csetospeed(to, B1900);, note that I lowered the speed for the test. - The Android side has no HW flow control (that might be the trigger). What would you recommend me to do? - diego ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: TCP/IP using perl
On שבת 07 אפריל 2012 16:39:12 Shlomi Fish wrote: Otherwise, does Wireshark tell you anything suspicious? You may also use nc -l | hexdump -C to debug the data on the server. But I assume you already did that. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: what happens if
On יום שלישי 20 מרץ 2012 10:45:19 Erez D wrote: All theory I read before implementing this said this was a bad idea. The theory says that libc may maintain some mutex inside malloc() which is called from printf() for example. This means that even trivial things may kill your app. The theory says that in multithreaded applications as soon as you clone() (the system called used by pthread_create()) you should execvp. In my application (a lot of C++, running on linux 2.6.32, glibc 2.9 and glibc 2.11.1 on ARM) erverything worked perfectly against the theory, your mileage may vary. what do you mean by erverything worked perfectly against the theory - did it work or did you have problems although you just execvp after clone ? Sorry, to be clear: I cloned(), then forked(), but no exec*() was called in the new child process. Everything worked fine in my setup. But again, YMMV. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: what happens if
On יום שני 19 מרץ 2012 12:22:15 Erez D wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012, Erez D wrote about Re: what happens if: my reason for fork is only for exec() - to protect the first program from the other. Then you should be all fine. Another reason is for interacting with libraries which are singleton. I had to work with a library to talk to some special HW. The library was designed to work with one device per process, and I needed to support many. I found myself forking and using pipe() to use the API from my main app. The problem is that that fork() was called from a thread. Read ahead. If you're talking about the C language, you won't have any of these problems. System calls like close() or dup() do not use any pthread capabilities like mutexes. If you're talking about a different programming language, I frankly have no idea what its fork() does. Maybe you need to write some C code that does fork()/exec() in one function call, and avoid this risk. i will be using C++. are you sure this is safe ? All theory I read before implementing this said this was a bad idea. The theory says that libc may maintain some mutex inside malloc() which is called from printf() for example. This means that even trivial things may kill your app. The theory says that in multithreaded applications as soon as you clone() (the system called used by pthread_create()) you should execvp. In my application (a lot of C++, running on linux 2.6.32, glibc 2.9 and glibc 2.11.1 on ARM) erverything worked perfectly against the theory, your mileage may vary. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: oVirt, FLOSS Weekly, Itamar Heim talks about oVirt
On יום חמישי 15 מרץ 2012 22:38:11 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: What do you base that statement on exactly? Listening to that episode and previous some 50 or so previous ones. This episode was brought to you by Ford - marketing the Zune crap This episode was brought to you by Netflix ... You shuold pop up the volume when you listen to those podcasts. They are very commercial oriented. Leo is a perl guy, but uses a mac. The production is not ... based on free software. But yes, it seems ovirt will be great some day, and now they are just pushing it, markting until it will get usable. See Hetz's review: http://benhamo.org/wp/?p=2958 On a side note: what other free-oss-linux-whatever podcasts do you guys recommend? Mine are: http://tllts.org/ http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linuxactionshow/ http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats
From my experience there is no problem opening in office 2007 docx written in office 2010. BTW, if you think they improved ODF support you are dead wrong. In the last years all ODF supporting programs were adapting to the (now approved) ODF-1.2 -- care to check where is MS-Office in this respect? But we knew this would happen, didn't we? I will try it myself, before I judge. But yes, very expected. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/try I installed Windows 7, and Office from MS. I also installed the latest version of LibreOffice. In MsOffice I created a test 1,2,3 document (in Hebrew, RTL), saved as ODT, and opened in LibreOffice. File loaded, directionality not working. Created the same document in LibreOffice, saved and tried opening it in MSWord. This failed, as probably MSOfffice 2010 supports only ODF1.1 and LibreOffice supports only 1.1. New test was downloading http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.1/OS/OpenDocument- v1.1.odt and opening it. The document opened in MSWord 2010 and LibreOffice 3.5. The document length in pages was different in both applications. I then saved the document and loaded the document in LibreOffice - now the document size in LibreOffice was different (3 different page count, yes). My brief conclusion of this experiment is that MSOffice 2010 supports ODF 1.1 as much as LibreOffice supports *.doc files. If anyone wants to send me ODF files for testing, I can send him PDF files as respond, hoping that this will satisfy your curiosity. One good thing that I can say about OSOffice, is that the loading and saving is done incrementally and faster then LibreOffice. LibreOffice felt like it was going to explode while editing the document, and MSOffice felt quite good. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats
On יום חמישי 16 פברואר 2012 12:19:18 you wrote: On Wednesday, 15 בFebruary 2012 21:47:02 Diego Iastrubni wrote: On Monday, February 06, 2012 02:43:16 AM Oron Peled wrote: You can find an example of this (refering to ODS): http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05 Really? WTF? Linking to a document from 3 years ago? So, the wold of propietary software stopped 3 years ago? Nope. It just created more incompatible formats... (MS-Office-2010 format is different from MS-Office-2007) From my experience there is no problem opening in office 2007 docx written in office 2010. BTW, if you think they improved ODF support you are dead wrong. In the last years all ODF supporting programs were adapting to the (now approved) ODF-1.2 -- care to check where is MS-Office in this respect? But we knew this would happen, didn't we? I will try it myself, before I judge. But yes, very expected. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/try ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats
On Monday, February 06, 2012 02:43:16 AM Oron Peled wrote: You can find an example of this (refering to ODS): http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05 Really? WTF? Linking to a document from 3 years ago? So, the wold of propietary software stopped 3 years ago? Did you check the status on modern office suits, or will you just link it forever, being ignorant and thinking what is the best for you and not reality? (crap, every time I say something rationable and smart a kitty dies, please stop). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: umount and data is lost?
Hi all, First of all, thanks for all the responces. I am here, instead of the gazillion (usefull) answers just so I do not insult anyone... (or everyone?). Some questions asked: 1) I did fclose() the file. 2) I tried sync() before the umount(). 3) Instead of using system(umount...) I am using umount(..., MNT_FORCE). Return value is OK=0. 4) I did not test which sleep() is the minimal. 5) Micha, HTML mail on this is is badbad. A kitten died because of you, thank you (I am allergic to them) 6) hdparm... does it work on nand devices? I did mention this once or twise. Just to make things clear: this is not a PC, it's an ARM based device. On יום ראשון 06 נובמבר 2011 19:04:48 Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sat, Nov 05, 2011, Diego wrote about umount and data is lost?: overcome otherwise). Before the reboot, I umount the proper partition and then sync. I believe it is rather pointless to sync(1) after umount(1) as umount(1) already writes all the buffered data for that filesystem before it succeeds. You can see this behavior in action if you mount a slow USB flash drive, write a lot of data to it, and immediately umount - the umount often can take many seconds to finish, until all the data is actually written to the drive. ... and now the story gets even funnier: I looked at the source again of my application, and it seems that the boot I was doing is not the external power off reboot I was thinking of, but the linux reboot(LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_RESTART) (man 2 reboot). This one was supposed to umount() my partitions, and flush all data, correct? It does not in my case. The problem on the system got fixed by calling the external power off reboot, since I called sync() and umount() explicitly but how come reboot(0x1234567) did not flush the buffers properly? I admit that the partition is not in /etc/fstab, but mounted manually by some stupid initscript, but... I *am* confused. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Scheduling a Meeting in a Cafe or Restaurant
On יום רביעי 02 נובמבר 2011 16:33:22 Shlomi Fish wrote: On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:50:16 +0200 Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote: On Wednesday 02 November 2011 13:24:56 Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all, I'd like to meet with a few people (whoever is interested) for chat Interested in what? interested in meeting. So to repharse: I'd like with a few people (whoever is interested in such a meeting) for chat and food in a café or a restaurant You keep confusing between linux.org.il and jdate.co.il. Shlomi - this is not a meetup ML at least not always, sometimes we do import a movie and rent a cinema... Anyway, keep on topic, ok? You know, techcnical shite related to linux and stuff, ya' know? ;-) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Flashing Galaxy S devices under Linux (Was: Upgrading Android Under Linux)
On יום שלישי 07 יוני 2011 22:13:22 Gadi Cohen wrote: Right, I finally overcame my fears and successfully flashed my SGS II I9100 in Linux yesterday. I just used the recovery console to install this ZIP: http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/cm_galaxysmtd_full-21.zip I also formatted the sys partition from the recovery console (I had my phone rooted, ever since I installed the PilotX ROMs). I am using Pelephone here for a day, and meanwhile I *do* konw that sending MMS does not work. Camera works quite good. No idea about GPS. Wifi works, but manytimes I need to refersh the pages... seems like this is not perfect yet. Also: Do not enable 2G. Keep in 3G as there is a bug in the kernel, see the FAQ. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Upgrading Android Under Linux
On יום רביעי 04 מאי 2011 18:32:59 Antony Gelberg wrote: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/17020-all-models-cyanogenmod-7-for-samsu ng-galaxy-s-phones-experimental/ And each time I read about it I keep reading about people complaining that the Wifi does not always work, and problems with the GPS. I still keep distance from it, hopefully not for much. About the original question: as soon as you get a booloader that can load non signed images (v2, not e) you can install update.zip to anything you want. Look in http://iandroid.co.il for docs, or nag again for me to post direct links to the documentation. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: flash killer extension for firefox 4
On יום שני 28 מרץ 2011 16:02:03 Udi Finkelstein wrote: I stand corrected. What I wrote below was for Windows Firefox. Under Linux you will find the same under Edit/preferences/Advanced/Update. Unless you are using a version of Firefox which was packaged by your distribution, and in this case you still have no control over the version of Firefox you have - they decide for you. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Android phones
On יום חמישי 24 פברואר 2011 22:46:54 Shachar Shemesh wrote: On 24/02/11 08:42, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Can you explain how those roms are done? What does does it mean binary patching? Points to FMs are OK, search terms are OK as well. FMs? Fabolous manuals of course. There is an open source version of Android. If you own a recent enough development phone, you can use the standard Android Open Source Project (AOSP) to compile a system image and flash it to your phone. It will download a few proprietary user-mode drivers from your phone, but will otherwise be completely open source. It will not, of course, contain any of Google's proprietary additions (no Market, Maps, Gmail etc.) Alternatively, there is a fork of Android called CyanogenMod, which brings the latest version of Android to just about any Android phone (and some non-Android phones) in the market, provided you manage to root the phone so you can load it. Again, some of the drivers would be proprietary. Wait. The market is not open source? No re-implementation? Does anyone know how does the GalaxyS stand from this poit of view? How much closed source propietary drivers does this phone need..? (just for us to remember - http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/linux- doomsday ) If you are importing your own phone to Israel, you have two options. You can either install CyanogenMod on it, and lose all of your phone's unique attributes, or you can try to add proper BiDi support by patching the binary. The interresting question is how much the standard ROMs have hebrew support compared to the local ROMs we see in the field. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Android phones
On יום חמישי 24 פברואר 2011 11:48:17 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:39:10AM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote: This might be related to the low quality of the call. The cellular networks use these days a heavly compressed GSM codec to save bandwith. If you are on an area that has low cellular coverage the codec gets more aggressive. Nowadays it's mostly AMR, IIRC. Still compressed. OTOH, is there any usage of a higher sample rate than telephony-standard? Don't konw. I still hear cat vomit each time I speak on the phone. I assume the sample rate is still 8khz 16bit - for compatibility issues with older networks. Compressing voice data at those rates will explain why most of our heads hurt when we speak on those devices. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Android phones
On יום רביעי 23 פברואר 2011 13:51:30 Ori Idan wrote: Headache during conversation is a known problem with cellular phones, the question is does it means that you will suffer long term effects like continuous headache or even worth, some kind of cancer. This might be related to the low quality of the call. The cellular networks use these days a heavly compressed GSM codec to save bandwith. If you are on an area that has low cellular coverage the codec gets more aggressive. Many people I talk to from my cellular at home (started cellcom, now pelephone) complain that the conversation is not productive and they request my landline. They the quality of the conneversation gets noticable better. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Android phones
On יום רביעי 23 פברואר 2011 19:46:56 Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by upstream. Most of the limitations of the forum solutions stem from the fact that no sources are available for the phones, so you are, essentially, hacking in BiDi support by modifying the binaries. Which upstream would you say is responsible, in such a case? Also, bear in mind that while I think a better job can be done, not everything is fixable when you are doing binary only hacking. Can you explain how those roms are done? What does does it mean binary patching? Points to FMs are OK, search terms are OK as well. Comming from the world of OSS and package managers I still strugle to understand the terminology used in the Android community for the things I do every day in my computers (and at work). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [r...@gnu.org: Speeches in Israel?]
On יום ראשון 16 ינואר 2011 15:15:22 Ehud Karni wrote: From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org To: e...@gnu.org Subject: Speeches in Israel? Reply-to: r...@gnu.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:05:32 -0500 I think I will be in Israel in July. Do you know of any place that would like a speech about free software? As much as I disagree with RMS, it's not something I would like to miss (again). Meeting a legend while he is living is not something anyone should miss. How about we move AP a few weeks ahead of schedule...? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Will Nokia destroy Qt4 like they destroyed Symbian OS?
On יום שני 08 נובמבר 2010 16:41:16 Omer Zak wrote: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/11/08/guest-post-symbian-os-one-of-the-most-s uccessful-failures-in-tech-history/ The 4th comment has a prediction that Nokia are not going to be healthy for Qt4. So if it does really happen, I suppose that there'll be a fork of Qt4, making Qt4 for KDE different from Qt4 for smartphones. You completelly mis-read this: IMHO, what will happen is that KDElibs will get desintegrated into several Qt5 components, if my wet dreams will come true. This means: KDE will still be KDE. Qt will not get forked. This is day-dreaming, nothing has been decided yet. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Looking for a smart card guru
Hi all, The company I am working on is looking into incorporating some smart card readers into our device line (based on TI OMAP3). We need someone to help us port the pcsc-lite stack to our device and then help writing the higher level code to read/write data from/to the smart card. Since the API is the same on Windows and Linux, he will need to work on VisualStudio as well :) Contact me off list for more details. - diego ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: cheap linux box ?
On יום שני 11 אוקטובר 2010 14:03:39 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Take a look at the Sheevaplug/GuruPlug. I heard good things about Sheevaplug, and bad about GuruPlug (the Debian planet is infected with people doing HW hacks on that device since otherwise it just dies). Lets join the discussion: Any other recommendation for an ebmedded ARM device for me to play with? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: heard about internetto?
On יום חמישי 19 אוגוסט 2010 23:09:29 geoffrey mendelson wrote: I'm not sure it's really worth it. Last I checked, you could get a voice line from BEZEQ for 15 NIS a month, if you only used it for a small number of calls a month. For that price, I would rather keep a line from them and have a dumb phone on it to make calls when my VoIP line was down. Having called Bezeq myself yesterday after reading Hetz's blog, this is what I understand from them: * kav kal - 25mis per month. 0.25 agorot per minute of call http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/PhoneLines/KavKal/Pages/kavkal.aspx * kav muzal - 35mis per month. 0.15 agorot per minute: http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/Phonelines/DiscountedLine/Pages/discountedline.aspx On top of that you need to pay for the tashtit (look the small prints, 3 three months have different price), look also for NGN on that page: 81.90 nis - 2mbps 99.90 nis - 5mbps http://www.bezeq.co.il/Internet/FastInternet/intsale/Pages/surfingpacks.aspx ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Changing UI to Hebrew in Thundirbird
elc...@pinky:~$ aptitude search thunderbird | grep Hebrew p thunderbird-locale-he - Thunderbird Hebrew language/region package On יום שישי 16 יולי 2010 12:02:34 Amichai Rotman wrote: Hi all, I am running Ubuntu Lucid. I have installed Thunderbird from the repo, but can't find a way to switch the UI to Hebrew (Menus and such). Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] --- - .::. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: hebrew letters in non-unicode vfat
Shachar, On שבת 19 יוני 2010 00:08:26 Shachar Shemesh wrote: There is no such thing non-unicode vfat. FAT file systems comes in two flavors. One is the classic, pre-Windows 95, version, which only supported ASCII (no Hebrew at all). The other is the LFN extension to FAT, which is encoded in UTF-16 (i.e. - unicode). In other words, if the DoK has Hebrew names, they are in Unicode. I am pretty sure I used to write in Hebrew filenames under DOS and Win3.11 (and saw reversed Hebrew in my app... I had to reverse it...). When I say pretty sure, I tell you I wrote code myself. Can you prove me wrong? What is missing here ? (except me being senile, that might be true) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: gcc-4.5.0 Success Story with Freecell Solver
On יום רביעי 16 יוני 2010 08:33:55 Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Diego, (PS, If you want to fully bootstrap clang instead of just using stage1 here, use this ugly shell script to get a clang built with clang built clang, aka stage 3). Please report how good/bad clang is for your case. Well, after I built clang (which took a while) I was able to compile Freecell Solver using it. The first thing I should note is that the compilation appeared to have been much slower than with gcc. oops, you are using the debug build og clang. This is why it's so slow compiling :) Look at the shell script attached to the last message, and use the cmake command there to configure clang: cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE:STRING=Release ../ To make a good comparison, please to boostrap clang properly (you need at least stage2, in theory from that point all binaries should be identical). Building clang here does take about an hour or two, yes, builind a C++ compiler is a long compilation. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: gcc-4.5.0 Success Story with Freecell Solver
On יום רביעי 16 יוני 2010 13:47:35 Shlomi Fish wrote: To make a good comparison, please to boostrap clang properly (you need at least stage2, in theory from that point all binaries should be identical). Building clang here does take about an hour or two, yes, builind a C++ compiler is a long compilation. Indeed. In any case, I don't suppose the benchmark results of fc-solve itself will be different, because the output of the compiler should be the same in both cases, right? The difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no difference between theory and practice. - please test and continue every several days, as clang evolves in HUGE steps very fast. I can still remember a few weeks ago when the compiler self hoseted for me for the first time. Just for reference, how can I do those test myself? Where is your SVN (git?) for me to test new code? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Remote debug within QT creator
Do you see this? Debug - Start debugging - Start and attach to remote application On יום ראשון 30 מאי 2010 09:00:30 itamar levit wrote: Hi Is it posible to do remote debuging from QT creator ? if yew how ? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Common problems with Ubuntu
On יום רביעי 12 מאי 2010 21:40:30 Shlomi Fish wrote: Anyway, I believe that the problem in Debian would have been exhibited even if I wanted to install exim in addition to postfix, or sendmail in addition to postfix etc. because they all supplied a /usr/sbin/sendmail file which was not a symlink. RTFM - man update-alternatives. It has been explained in this thread. Please stop the FUD. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bituah Leumi site: call them!
On Thursday 15 April 2010 22:53:25 Stan Goodman wrote: There is a phone number on that page. Call them next week! Let them know that not the whole world uses Windows! When I mentioned some years ago to the Bezeq business office that I do not have Windows on my machine (I had only OS2 then, which would not yet work with their ADSL), I was informed that I was talking nonsense, because every computer has Windows. You silly hippie, you need to find Windows near the Control Panel. If you were not such an communist you would know this by now. I just got reminded of a wonderful post at The Daily WTF, very representative of your situation: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Mr-Keyboard,-Mr-Internet,-and-Support-from-Mr- James.aspx ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew search in PDFs is backwards?
This is really, really bad from qt/src/gui/painting/qpainter.cpp, inside void QPainter::drawText(const QPointF p, const QString str, int tf, int justificationPadding) I see this code: QStackTextEngine engine(str, d-state-font); engine.option.setTextDirection(d-state-layoutDirection); engine.itemize(); QScriptLine line; line.length = str.length(); engine.shapeLine(line); int nItems = engine.layoutData-items.size(); QVarLengthArrayint visualOrder(nItems); QVarLengthArrayuchar levels(nItems); for (int i = 0; i nItems; ++i) levels[i] = engine.layoutData-items[i].analysis.bidiLevel; QTextEngine::bidiReorder(nItems, levels.data(), visualOrder.data()); Now... it seems like QTextEngine::bidiReorder() does exactly what you want logical-visual. However... this class is defined inside qtextengine_p.h... which means this is not official API. But, IMHO, even if it's not marked, you can open a bug report on this at Nokia's bug tracker, and they will handle it for Qt 4.8, maybe 4.7. Meanwhile, if the header is installed - abuse it. If it's not included - hack it inside your application (*) I know that this will not be accepted at KDE's svn ... On Monday 18 January 2010 16:28:57 Gadi Cohen wrote: I'm now trying to implement this in Okular (instead of studying for my exam, bad!). I've set up a KDE4 development environment, but have no prior experience with KDE or Qt at all. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: ot: looking for cheap/free sip phones
...and if you craft your dialplan correctly in asterisk, you can use the internal phone's contact list (dialing 9 for outbound dialing is lame). Highly recommended. On Friday 08 January 2010 10:38:03 Ohad Levy wrote: If you have a Nokia E or N series, you can use that instead. Ohad On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm playing around with asterisk and am looking for some cheap or free SIP phones. They don't have to be new, work well, etc, just be able to connect to an ethernet network and work with asterisk. Jerusalem area and free prefered, but I can pay a small amount for them. Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com New word I coined 12/13/09, Sub-Wikipedia adj, describing knowledge or understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in the Wikipedia. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew in urxvt
whats wrong with piping text trough fribidi ? what do you do when you need to edit text? the text cursor gets crazy under all those tests. On Wednesday 04 November 2009 17:51:05 Yuval Hager wrote: I've recently switched from Konsole to urxvt. Konsole has great bidi support, which allows one to switch from logical to visual text representation at the click of a button. I was missing bidi support in urxvt (and virtually every other terminal I tried. I was told to try mlterm, but I never got to it, as it does not look so exciting. I just found a way to view Hebrew characters correctly in urxvt, and wanted to share. urxvt supports perl extensions, so here's what you need to do: 0) you do have the culmus fonts installed, don't you? 1) install Text::Bidi. run 'cpan' and then 'install Text::Bidi'. 2) install the perl bidi extension by Moshe Kamensky from http://lists.schmorp.de/pipermail/rxvt-unicode/2006q3/000321.html. It appears at the end of his email, copy that to a file and place it under '/usr/lib/urxvt/perl'. Name it 'bidi'. 3) run urxvt as folllows: $ urxvt -fn 'xft:terminus-12,xft:comix no2 clm' -pe bidi this works beautifully, without even the need to click needed in Konsole. I am not editing files in Hebrew, just need to see an occasional Hebrew file name, or Hebrew logs. Cheers, --yuval ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: how to disable PolicyKit?
On Saturday 31 October 2009 23:42:49 Oron Peled wrote: You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was pretty good. I don't know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and installing wicd What does it have to do with the subject? We discussed PolicyKit, integration with NetworkManager, lack of good command line integration and how bad is running big program stacks (GUI) as suid programs: 1. wicd is a GUI program (it uses GTK). wicd is a network manager replacement. It works (more or less) the same way NM works: with a deaomon which does the lower level operations, and several GUIs (a GTK version, and a ncurses version). I don't want to change the subject, as Im afraid to steer the debate from the original problem (as you mentioned). I am just pointing that for the NM problem, there is another solution which tries to solve more or less the same problem. It's just different. You know, GTK vs. Qt argument. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: how to disable PolicyKit?
On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote: I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev, dbus, network, etc. to work without a policy kit developed by GUI people (I understand it comes from Gnome). ... However, you are correct that it's easy to see its GNOME origins. There is no command line client. This is not because the design is bad or architectural limitations --- nobody bothered writing one yet. You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was pretty good. I don't know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and installing wicd. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Current recommendations for Linux-compatible printer?
I have an HP printer/fax/scanner here. Nice piece of HW. I connected it to the wireless network, and under Windows it's a charm. Under linux, I can print to it from the network. They have this nice web interface from which you you can scan, I did not manage to get the scanner working directly with the OS. I am not able to print to fax from linux. Under Windows you have this option to stick a sdcard to the machine, and it will send it to your computer. Again, don't know how it works under linux. So... yes, the very basic things work under HP. However, this machine can do SO MUCH MORE, and using it under linux seems like a waste for me. On Wednesday 21 October 2009 22:18:37 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Omer,Most (if not all) of HP's All in One printers should suffice you. * Drivers are fully open source (see: http://hplipopensource.com) * Print, Fax, Scan are fully supported. * Very easy installation * The market is flooded with NON HP replacement cartridges. * The printers are actually quite cheap: the top of the line (8500 Pro AIO) costs 900 NIS Thanks, Hetz On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: I got fed up with the ink-guzzling behavior of my Epson Stylus CX3200 and would like to buy a new printer. And of course, it needs to be fully supported by Linux. Which manufacturers are OK today (for example, is Lexmark X2620, currently offered in a sale by Bezeq, OK)? Which printer/s available today would be the best buy? My criteria are: 1. My printing needs are very low volume. So the printer needs not to be very fast. 2. When and if I do print colorful stuff, I need it to be of high quality. 3. 100% Linux compatible (due to ideology, this should include also features which I don't plan to use). 4. Color. 5. If applicable, economical in ink usage (for example, separate cartridge for each color; and refillable by 3rd parties i.e. not burdened by a chip). 6. Includes also scanner. FAX is optional. 7. Does not have to be the lowest cost model. Thanks, --- Omer -- Never let beliefs, God or Gods incite war and hatred among human beings. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Current recommendations for Linux-compatible printer?
Hi Oron, See comments inline: On Friday 23 October 2009 13:49:08 you wrote: On Friday, 23 בOctober 2009 13:09:31 Diego Iastrubni wrote: (I should fix kmail's translation...) the wireless model due to security: Whats wrong about WPA2+do not broadcast the SSID? Model? My HP Officejet 6313 is connected to the network (I didn't want J6413 * Scanning - same (xsane, gimp plugins, etc.) doc? man? rtfm? [google,yahoo,bing,hotbot)-search keyword? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: cms.uniqsys.co.il (reported site attack)
BTW, How do I disable that stupid red window on FF? *I* don't have problems with those kind of sites. This warning is preventing *me* from looking into the site and learning what/who/how things are done. On Sunday 27 September 2009 07:41:43 Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, Does someone know someone from there? The site is infected with a malware: iframe src=http://delzzerro.cn/ height=1 width=1 And was reported by Google as being hostile. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Setting LANG env on Ubuntu
On Friday 25 September 2009 00:15:40 Shachar Shemesh wrote: I don't know about Ubuntu, but in Debian these variables are set either in /etc/default/locale or /etc/environment. Also, the official way of changing those is by doing dpkg-reconfigure locales as root. On Debian/Ubuntu, dpkg-reconfigure locales is a light wrapper around localgegen (I think, I am currently on Fedora...). On Mandriva, you can install each one of those locales by an rpm instead of generating them on your machine. If you want to change the locale of your system, this is a mandatory step. However it does not change the locale. What I usually do (works on Debian/Ubuntu/Mandriva/Fedora) is: locale ~/.i18n and then edit ~/.i18n as needed. Here it is on my machine: [elc...@pinky ~] cat /home/elcuco/.i18n LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=he_IL.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL= ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux
On יום ראשון 30 אוגוסט 2009 11:36:03 Oron Peled wrote: I normally follow your original method -- put some effort *before* buying to have an idea about good/problematic hardware. I also make sure that the people who sell stuff will know *why* I chose their hardware (because its vendor is cooperating with the Linux community and as a result the hardware just work out of the box). While I do tend to agree with what you say... who are those people? Is it the poor salesman who gets payed 22nis/h for seeling on office depot? or the supplier/vendor? If you are molesting a poor kid, please see this: http://xkcd.com/225/ If you are actually talking about the vendors, how are you exactly contanting them? I am sure they would like to hear happy customers. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?
What the fuck are you doing? I did not see that movie yet... Please write spoiler and leave a few empty the next time. On יום שישי 28 אוגוסט 2009 13:17:06 Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Interesting enough, Light travels through Israeli movies in speed close to American ones (88 mph) but, complain much more then the American counterpart when it doing so. Strangely, a love affair between an homosexual Palestinian Sumu wrestler who is in fact a Mossad agent living in Lod is also involved. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: kopete and hebrew
On Sunday 09 August 2009 08:33:46 Omer Zak wrote: i found that in my case is selected iso 8859-1 western and i see that there are 2 hebrew encodings iso-8859-8 hebrew visually ordered and iso-8859-8-1 hebrew logically ordered. which one should I choose? Neither. Choose utf-8 and ensure that the other side chose utf-8 as well. If you MUST choose one of the two Hebrew encodings, choose iso-8859-8i (logically ordered). Choose cp-1255, as it has a larger range of Hebrew support, if it's possible. Now, I have talked with the Kopete developers a few years ago and they explained to me why ICQ gives us so much troubles. It seems that when a message is sent in ICQ one of it's headers describes the encoding the in which this message is encoded. Ok, so far so good. However, most of the messages/clients (not sure about it) are sent in encoding number 3, which means use your locale. So, Alice has LC_CTYPE=he_IL.cp-1255 and sends a hebrew message to Bob (which used LC_CTYPE=C) and if the message is in encoding 3, this means the encoding is LC_CTYPE. Pretty much fucked up, IMHO. Nice to have a menu which overrides it. Well... more or less, as in windows you don't really have LC_CTYPE... and I am not sure if the borked encoding number is 3... but you get the idea. Please use unicode when developing new applications/protocols. Transfer the text sing UTF-8. Or die, slowly and use putty on Windows95 to read your email from your Linux box by deciphering the packets read by tcpdump. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: binks when using newer kernels
On Saturday 30 May 2009 13:35:55 you wrote: On 30.05.2009 Diego Iastrubni wrote: I just heard that EXT4 is stable in 2.6.30... but no distro still uses that kernel by default. My SOHO server uses an ext4 /home partition in the last 5 months (since Fedora-10 bundled it) without a hitch. Also, ext4 is the default partition type for Fedora-11 due in about a fortnight -- 9/6/2009, another week delay :-( http://www.tllts.org/dl.php?episode=300submit=Submit I recommend you to listen to this podcast, in which The Linux Link Tech show intervue Ted T'so. He explains the problems in EXT4 and how distros are backporting features to earlier kernels. There are still a few bugs to be found. They also have a great intro, in which they play all the fun they had with RMS, that's always funny :) As Xorg 1.6 should come soon, all I can think of is all distros are messed up right now, wait. The only turbolent area lately was really X (because of the changes required for KMS). It was harder for KDE users (me included) because KDE (especially Plasma) uses a lot of high end features of the drivers. mmm... I have been thinking about it... I am not using KMS! But still, I have it compiled built-in. Maybe it's time to remove it and test again. Waiting for stabilization isn't a bad idea, but the main problems are over. At least from my POV (as a Fedora user), a fully updated F10 works reasonably well on all my computers (home + work) and F11 would be an improvement (X.org-1.6, KDE-4.3, etc.) Oron, I kindly disagree with you. The problems are now starting: only now the code is going to be used widly, only now the developers can see how it works on non-developers machines. This is time for me to wait for the internet to test the code before I use it :) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
binks when using newer kerels
Hi all, I am using Mandriva 2008.1 (yes, the old one) and decided to upgrade my kernel. I tested 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 (git, from Linus branch) nad under both I get random blinks in the screen. It's like the screen gets shut down for 100-200 msec, and then continues on working. The machine is a Lenovo 3000 N100, with an Intel 945 video card. Before I start hunting for this bug... as anyone seen it, something similar... or has an idea? - diego ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: binks when using newer kernels
Now it's even funier... X really locked up. All the display was just shut down... even good old terminals were gone. If I understand correcttly I need also to upgrade Xorg... will it work with the old official kernel? or are xorg+linux bundeled together? I just heard that EXT4 is stable in 2.6.30... but no distro still uses that kernel by default. As Xorg 1.6 should come soon, all I can think of is all distros are messed up right now, wait. No upgrade for me it seems. PS: Yes, your machine has 915G. Still having all those passwords which prevent you from working after you go doing #1? ;-) On Friday 29 May 2009 22:24:04 Oron Peled wrote: On 29.05.2009 Diego Iastrubni wrote: I am using Mandriva 2008.1 (yes, the old one) and decided to upgrade my kernel. I tested 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 (git, from Linus branch) nad under both I get random blinks in the screen. It's like the screen gets shut down for 100-200 msec, and then continues on working. The machine is a Lenovo 3000 N100, with an Intel 945 video card. I'm almost sure it's because of the latest changes in Intel drivers related to KMS (kernel-mode-setting). Few months ago the situation was much worse (for me), with random freezes on KDE (switched temporarily to GNOME). Now I get similar flickers only briefly during login (probably because of resolution changes etc.) You should use these drivers with up to date Xorg+drivers, otherwise your chances are slim. Fedora 10, HP DV-4000, with Intel-915GM (I think, it's not in front of me now). Cheer up, it should be OK soon (X.org-1.6 should be around the corner). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Macromedia sux? On Tuesday 26 May 2009 19:11:44 Noam Rathaus wrote: Maybe the flash works, but why the Hebrew is shown in reverse? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 20:45:00 Tomer Cohen wrote: (Diego - Adobe bought Macromedia long time ago) Them too. Ok. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: usb packet analyzer on windows
Hi, Some RTFM for you: http://groups.google.com/group/microdia/web/usb-sniffing-on-windows On Tuesday 12 May 2009 10:37:46 Constantine Shulyupin wrote: Hi, Can you please software USB packet analyzer on Windows . I have a device that works on Windows. I going to develop driver on Linux for the device. Thanks. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: c++ q
On Sunday 26 April 2009 15:38:53 Erez D wrote:
files:
== a.h ===
MISSING:
#ifndef __FILE_H__
class a {
int m_a;
a (int val);
void do_somthing()
}
MISSING: semicolon, last line should be
};
MISSING:
#endif // __FILE_H__
== a.cpp ===
#include a.h
a::do_somthing {a.m_a++;};
a::a(int val):m_a(val) {};
GRADE: C- ~ 70.
Go back to school, and as punishment re-implement quick_sort in VB.NET.
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Re: OT: c++ q
On Sunday 26 April 2009 17:31:59 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Go back to school, and as punishment re-implement quick_sort in VB.NET. Now that's going the cruel and unusual route. I do think every programmer should take the time to implement binary search and quick sort at least once from scratch. The number of corner cases there is outstanding, and it is a great practice of thinking of the fine details. Beeing a little serious: I am not sure quick_sort is a must, as quite frankly it's a reall mess and I don't understand it. But heap sort and binary sort, yes. Those are a must. /me will need to back to the books and remember how heap sort works ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Backup encryption key
On Friday 24 April 2009 09:34:40 you wrote: P.s. Blowfish? In this day and age? Twofish, I stand corrected. Their specks are very confusing: * They claim that the transport is based on https * They claim that the encryption key is stored on my computer, but i see no documentation on the location. * I don't know how the encryption key is made, my guess is that the input is the password used, I might be wrong. * I know that that the tech support can see the encrypted password of each user (john to the rescue!), and can see the list of files. I am not sure about the content. I guess that they are not as transparent as Lingnu, and their technology is great, but the docs sux. I brought Lingu's service to the debate, since it offers much more then just a secured layer. I assume that readers of this thread are more interested about the service provided by some companies, and not just the technical details. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Backup encryption key
As someone who tried to convince his boss to use Shachar's product, I can tell you that there are companies (in israel!) who sell a competing product, which is closed source, but: * works with a nice Java Based web interface, * it has a CLI version (works on 64 bit as well) * it's incremental backup * their service sends you email when you finish the backup * the email tells you what amont of data (in MB) has been sent * if you miss a backup a few days, you get a call from them is everthing ok? - don't trust automated setups! * they store up to a week of information as history * the traffic is encrypted using blowfish * if your initial backup is huge they can send someone to your office which comes with a USB disk and copies it manually the first time. Besides it being closed source, written in java and (*) it's a damn good service. I can recommend off list if you want. Still, if I had the choise, I would use Shachar's service, not only because of (*). I prefear my money to go to someone from the community. Shame it's not my money, right Shachar? ;-) (*) has far as I can tell, the encryption key is the password used for the service. I also know that a support guy can see the encrypted password of each customer. I hope I am drunk+stupid+lazy+mistaking, since if I am right, this is completelly fucked up. On Thursday 23 April 2009 16:00:27 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Yuval Hager wrote: Well, I was looking for a more streamlined solution. Something that is: 1) automatic 2) offsite (e.g. online) 3) bandwidth and space efficient (due to (2) above) 4) (opt.) encrypted 5) incremental http://rsyncrypto.lingnu.com + rsync Provides 1-5. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
automatic text direction detection as you see in KDE3 is not implemented in KDE4. On Tuesday 24 March 2009 13:43:47 Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Hi. I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: אבגד הוז Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. Any ideas ? TIA. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
Hi Dan, WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget? On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:04:06 Dan Kenigsberg wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: Hi. I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: אבגד הוז Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may # yum install bidiv and $ bidiv yourtext | less Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. Any ideas ? TIA. -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
With all due respect to dan (and I really do!), what he sais was BS, and nothing to do with your problem. Now his answer is tagged and in the future a nn00b will read it and boom! he is doing stupid things. Execute qtconfig (in a shell window, or the plasma-krunner-control-f2-thingie). Move to the Interface tab, choose Enhanced support for languages written right-to-left and restart the X server (alt+control+backspace). Now in kmail you can choose the display direction (only display!) by pressing control+shift like on windows. On Tuesday 24 March 2009 19:42:35 Aharon Schkolnik wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Hi Dan, WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget? That's OK, I wasn't confused. I didn't think bidiv would help with my kmail problem. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
I smell SVG... ;-) http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics All you need is a text editor, a browser (1) and time to learn. (1) IE6 does not count as a browser On Tuesday 24 March 2009 22:42:27 Dan Shimshoni wrote: Hello, Please help me to stay with Linux and not go back to Windows... I had stopped using windows about two years ago; though I have a dual boot , I almost did not boot into windows in the recent two years. I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything that I had in Windows I could get in Linux. But: now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried with the dia tool. I created a diagram and converted it to png. The result is reasonable. However,... I need to draw some arrows in an angle and I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that the text should not be vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. Does any one know a tool with which it can be done? To be more specific, what I need to do as something like what is depicted here (and can be done with visio): http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425seqNum=21 please look at figure 3.44 I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and not under some virtual machine emulating windows and not under wine. Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux. I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be in *.png. Rgs, DanS ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM
On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:28:09 Constantine Shulyupin wrote: HI, I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit. Webkit on what? Qt45? GTK? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Linux-il] testing
I see on the header something very similar: List-Id: The linux Israeli users list linux-il.cs.huji.ac.il List-Unsubscribe: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/options/linux-il, mailto:linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il List-Post: mailto:linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il List-Help: mailto:linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il, mailto:linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il?subject=subscribe SWEET On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:38:53 Rami Addady wrote: Hello Eli Can you add the flag: X-list: linux-il It use to be and I'm using it in my procmailrc Rami Ely Levy wrote: Moved to mailman, please report problems :-) Ely Levy System group Computer Science Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
I can still remember Leumi doing this with a floppy way then. At least a USB device would last for several months/years. Floppies lick balls (the 1.44, not the 1.2, they actually kickes ass and were better, don't know why). Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday, 18 בJanuary 2009, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Some time ago they issued padkey USB device that one must use to get access to the site. If I understand correcly, the IE uses ActiveX to retrieve an key from the device and transfers the key and keyboard-entered password to the site for authenitcation. I'll bet they do it for security. Indeed, forcing people to use ActiveX is a secure way to have these people PC quickly broken into. How lame can they be... To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: [kde-il] Fedora 10 will have localized installer for Hebrew
(please note, I am cross posting) KDE 4.1 has no official Hebrew translation in KDE 4.0 and KDE 4.1, since it did not qualify: it did not have enough percentage to be an official translation. See here: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable-kde4/essential/ Basically, an official language needs to have:desktop_kdelibs.po =75%, desktop_l10n.po = 75%, kdebase = 75% and kdelibs4.po = 90%. The reason for that, is that no one was working on translating KDE 4.x. Pretty simple. If you look here: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk-kde4/essential/ you will see that KDE 4.2 to be released in January will probably meet those numbers. KDE4.2 is also fixed (been fixed!) in various places to properly support Hebrew as good it did in KDE3, but the work is being done in trunk (4.2) and not branch. As I said to the Ubuntu guys, if you really want I can backport the translations from 4.2 to 4.1, but I cannot guarantee that the product will have a decent quality, as it's not been tested for RTL compliance. Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/10/14 Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi everybody, As of today we have crossed the required bar (90% translation) for having Hebrew as an official language *during install*. As the title says, F10 (which is in Beta now) will have Hebrew as one of the installation languages. More details in: http://life-with-linux.blogspot.com/2008/10/hebrew-installation-of-fedora-10.html Happy Suckot ;-) If that is so, then how is it that Hebrew is not an official language of KDE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/280724 Can someone knowledgeable comment on that bug? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user
Hi Dotan, I have seen you bug sprint this week, don't worry :) However, bug 165406 talks about input controls,which in Qt4 do not have automatic direction detection. IMHO, this is a non important bug compared to 163459 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163459 This one renderes Plasma completelly useless for RTL users, and prevents the proper translation of the GUI: it means that Plasma will *always* be LTR, since the graphics scene layout system does not know about the widget direction and ignores that property completelly. The last bug will hopefuly fixed by Trolltech in Qt45 which means (I am currently looking if this issue has been sent to the trolls at all). One more note: Voting in this case is completelly usesless. The LTR developers (hm) are afraid of touching this, and with good reasonss. There are very few people which understand this area, and none of them are coding right now. Even if you have giziliion-gazillio votes - no one will fix this issue. I will try to find time in a month or two, but I cannot promise anything, and specially nothing for KDE 4.0, maybe (with a lot of luck for KDE 4.1.2 or 4.1.1), but most possible for 4.2.0. My suggestion? Nag the distributions. They have resources (=developers) which can be spent in this subject, they can really make a difference. So far, none of the distros are paying for a developer in the RTL/BiDI field - and this is why KDE4 and (somettimes...) gnome are licking balls in this area. On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:06:17 +0300, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406 Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? BTW, WTF is this garbage? Is this opera writing shit, or badly sent email? I don't see it in KMail �˛���m� �ٚ�[h�)��)kz,���iȥ�+a����n�˛���m觶�z����w'�(�f�u�!��칻 �ޙ���)��)kz,���iȥ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Visual diff tool for patches.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ echo test 123 1.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ cp -la 1.txt 2.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ echo test 321 1.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ diff 1.txt 2.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ echo test 123 1.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ cp -la 1.txt 2.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ echo test 1234 2.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ diff 1.txt 2.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ I don't think this will work ;-) ביום שלישי 06 מרץ 2007, 09:28, נכתב על ידי Vassilii Khachaturov: Did not see you mentioned meld specifically. Anyway I could sugest the following procedure. You could prepare two copies of the source tree: pristine and modified, where modified is pristine with patch applied. Very true. It's also a good idea to do the copy with the cp -la option so that the files are not copied, but linked instead, so the only thing you waste the disk for is the inodes and the files that actually differ. Then fire up meld (or any other merge tool) and just apply/move changes one by one from modified to pristine. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL License
ביום שני 26 פברואר 2007, 09:47, נכתב על ידי Oron Peled: Nothing is additional. No GPL software can be proprietary. Period. Oron, We had this conversation a few weeks ago. You can always double license the application you develop, and in fact you can have a proprietary GPL application. Some examples: * MySQL * Qt4,Qt3 * OpenOffice (does StarOffice still exist?) * Asterisk * Zaptel (non GPL kernel code! bad boy!) * Xara (currently even the GPL free version links to a non GPL library) * VirtualBox I even remember about a Java application which was developed by one single man and a company hired him to continue the work of his application for them. They bought a GPL application. There are always workarounds for the GPL license, and you can make it non free on some situations. GPL does not provide you full freedom. Whatever that means. Currently GPL is used by some companies to release code for the linux community and still be able to hide behine the GPL and continue their market domination on the market they gain money from Windows users, and the closed source market. - diego = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: possible to dial into netvision from linux?
ביום שני 05 פברואר 2007, 22:50, נכתב על ידי Oded Arbel: Can this be done from Linux? http://cables2.netvision.net.il/linux/ He is using dialup. goto http://linmodems.org and google for more information. Also subscribe to their list and ask for more help. This is one of the darker places in the FOS world - linmodems. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crappy audio
Hi Oded, I can confirm the unpligging issue you describe. It's a known fact (Hetz already mentioned it on this list a few weeks ago). According to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N100_0768 There is a patch which fixes it. I cannot confirm if it works, and not say anything about the quality of sound. I will wait for May-June, a month or two after the Ubuntu release and then test the new drivers (always, but always install new versions 2-3 months after they have been released). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N100_0768 This wiki also tought me that the camera is a WIP, quite cool. Oded, did you make the sd card reader work? Acording to this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_the_internal_SD-CARD_working It should work, however enabling the tifm_sd module at boot, disables the audio on this system. I also understand that it's possible to make the modem work, I just need to visit the linmodems.org mailing list. ביום ראשון 04 פברואר 2007, 14:47, נכתב על ידי Oded Arbel: --=-wkGA1l+GZW+h4eHZNhSD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:45 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote: On 03/02/07, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The system is Kubuntu 6.10 running a 2.6.17 kernel, the system in a Lenovo 3000 N100. I'd try to concentrate on the exact sound card version and lookup alsa-project.org for its entry. Also the alsa users mailing list is a VERY friendly and useful source of help, if you can't find the answer on your own in that web site. I also has an issue with crappy sound on a Lenovo 3000 - it is using the latest intel chipset, ICH8, which is not terribly well supported. The solution was to update to the latest ALSA (1.0.13 IIRC). I also had a problem where plugging earphones into the laptop did not disable the built-in speakers, while it did in MS-Windows. Do you have that problem too ? -- Oded ::.. The distinction between true and false appears to become increasingly blurred by... the ploution of the language. -- Arne Tiselius --=-wkGA1l+GZW+h4eHZNhSD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8 META NAME=GENERATOR CONTENT=GtkHTML/3.12.2 /HEAD BODY On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:45 +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:BR BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE FONT COLOR=#00On 03/02/07, /FONTFONT COLOR=#00BDiego Iastrubni/B/FONTFONT COLOR=#00 lt;A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt; wrote:/FONT /BLOCKQUOTE BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE BLOCKQUOTE FONT COLOR=#00The system is Kubuntu 6.10 running a 2.6.17 kernel, the system in a/FONTBR FONT COLOR=#00Lenovo 3000 N100./FONT /BLOCKQUOTE /BLOCKQUOTE BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE BR FONT COLOR=#00I'd try to concentrate on the exact sound card version and lookup A HREF=http://alsa-project.org;alsa-project.org/A for its entry./FONTBR FONT COLOR=#00Also the alsa users mailing list is a VERY friendly and useful source of help, if you can't find the/FONTBR FONT COLOR=#00answer on your own in that web site./FONTBR /BLOCKQUOTE BR I also has an issue with crappy sound on a Lenovo 3000 - it is using the latest intel chipset, ICH8, which is not terribly well supported. The solution was to update to the latest ALSA (1.0.13 IIRC). BR BR I also had a problem where plugging earphones into the laptop did not disable the built-in speakers, while it did in MS-Windows. Do you have that problem too ?BR BR TABLE CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 WIDTH=100% TR TD --BR OdedBR ::..BR The distinction between true and false appears to become increasingly blurred by... the ploution of the language.BR nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;-- Arne TiseliusBR BR /TD /TR /TABLE /BODY /HTML --=-wkGA1l+GZW+h4eHZNhSD-- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crappy audio
That's nice, analog audio does not work... only digitaly. Another Microsoft consipracy? Who cares. I changed the outpur engine from arts to alsa (kscd). Sound still sounds crappy. Anyway, this is not the solution since most of my music I consume digitally (ogg on amarok, using xine engine if anyone wants to know). בשבת 03 פברואר 2007, 14:47, נכתב על ידי Peter: Check all the mixer settings and try to set direct cd play (not digital). Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: httpfs hack
Yes, it's only performance. I did a small test today: I untared a tar.bz2 (~1.5 mb) file, under a local filesystem (~0.1 sec), under sshfs (7 seconds) and under NFS (4:06, yes, that's four minutes). This is NFS 4 running on top of TCP. I will need to do this experiment under UDP, but this is clear that sshfs KICKS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF NFS (on this scenario at least). Has anyone mounted /home using sshfs? We are using NIS+NFS to have a roaming home directory across our network, and I would like to modify only the NFS part. What concerns me, is permissions. Mounting a simple dir as a user is simple, but I want to mount a directory which contains a very sensitive content. ביום ראשון 28 ינואר 2007, 12:26, נכתב על ידי Amos Shapira: On 28/01/07, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to remove nfs from my work, and I am thinking of FUSE. How hard Why do you want to get rid of NFS? If this is a performance issue: Do you expect any FUSE filesystem to perform better than NFS? Are you using NFS v4 over TCP? --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: httpfs hack
All the tests were done on the same machine (a konsole window counts?). The server is a Sarge based NFS server, the client is a Etch based system. I would like to know what can I do to fix this issue, I assume this should not be that bad. Any hints? ביום ראשון 28 ינואר 2007, 21:52, נכתב על ידי Gilad Ben-Yossef: Diego Iastrubni wrote: Yes, it's only performance. I did a small test today: I untared a tar.bz2 (~1.5 mb) file, under a local filesystem (~0.1 sec), under sshfs (7 seconds) and under NFS (4:06, yes, that's four minutes). The numbers are from the same machines (client and server) for the same network and content? I'm willing to bet you have a screwed up configuration of NFS, probably on the server. This sounds insane. sshfs is (probably) not the answer, fixing the NFS server/config (probably) is. Cheers, Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: httpfs hack
CRAP THIS FUSE THING IS HOT. I would like to remove nfs from my work, and I am thinking of FUSE. How hard is it to use ssh as a file-system? how out of the box is this? Whats the performance of this thing? בשבת 27 ינואר 2007, 15:27, נכתב על ידי Hadar: Hi all, Recently I played with httpfs which is a fuse based filesystem that mounts http urls. The cool stuff with httpfs begins when you mount livecd ISO on a remote mirror: * You can boot the live cd and try it, without downloading the whole cd/dvd (using qemu, vmplayer and maybe kvm?) * You can run applications from within the live cd without downloading everything (using chroot) Future work will allow users to mount a compressed filesystem as the real root filesystem (without chroot or such). I wrote a HOWTO for this: http://vamosproject.org/hacks/httpfs I also want to write a script that lets a user easily mount the various public mirrors ( e.g debian's, ubuntu's). So I still wonder - Is it completely legal? The mirrors would not like the idea of users leeching their bandwidth constantly :) A kvm test by somebody is most welcome (I don't have kvm yet). Cheers, Hadar vamosproject.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] Re: version control wiki
TRAC, only trac. It integrates bugzilla(like)+svn+wiki in one tight nice integration. When you start using it, everything else just stinks. ביום רביעי 24 ינואר 2007, 11:27, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Shahar Dag wrote about version control wiki: 1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control wiki (we would like to use free software) I am not aware of a version control + wiki combination (but maybe someone can correct me?), so you will have to choose each one separately. For version control, I would recommend Subversion. It is very similar in its basic philosophy to CVS, but it's simply better in many ways (I'm sure that Google can return heaps of comparisons of Subversion to every other version control system under the sun). For Wiki, I don't have any experiance of actually *installing* such a system, but from a user's perspective, I'd recommend MediaWiki, because it has the most familar syntax (at least to the hundreds of thousands of people which contribute to Wikipedia). To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
ביום שישי 19 ינואר 2007, 12:51, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El: About Hspell integration: Well, on any official build (not just the Hebrew build), you can use the Hspell-derived myspell dictionary. You can install it yourself using OpenOffice's menus (the dicoo wizard), or your distribution can install it for you (in Fedora, the openoffice.org-langpack-he_IL package gives you Hebrew spell-checking for OpenOffice, out of the box). I want mixed languages spell chcking out of the box. Lets say: locale+english. This means that it will use the default locale for checking words, and then some english spell checker. I don't mind about hspell/myspell, I don't really care about the underlaying engine, just the results. Even if it costs me 2-5MB of memory. Yes, as seen on other threads on this list, linux applications are getting too memory hungry, but if it delivers - fine by me. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
Nadav, I am plain, Jhon Doe, using English interface of OOo, using my favorite distro (just to make you happy, I like Fedora ;) ), what steps are needed to make it spell check Hebrew+English? Is it possible to make it Hebrew+English+Spanish? ביום שישי 19 ינואר 2007, 18:42, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?: ביום שישי 19 ינואר 2007, 12:51, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El: I want mixed languages spell chcking out of the box. Lets say: locale+english. This means that it will use the default locale for checking words, and then some english spell checker. I don't mind about hspell/myspell, I don't really care about the underlaying engine, just the results. Even if it costs me 2-5MB of memory. It's almost, but not quite out of the box (on Fedora, you need to ask to install the openoffice.org-langpack-he_I package which isn't installed by default, or use the menus to add a dictionry). Your other other requirement is already fulfilled: multilingual spell-checking already works very well. Perhaps you're confusing OpenOffice with Mozilla, where indeed you're forced to choose a specific language and can't spell-check mixed language files. It could have been better, (much) faster, and take up (much) less memory than it does now (your 5 MB estimate is very optimistic) with the myspell dictionary, but it more-or-less works. Maybe the memory/startup-time situation will improve once we start taking advantages of the new hunspell features to make the dictionary smaller. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
Hi Nadav, (Sorry for nagging) The hebrew spelling is tied up with the Hebrew UI? Can't I have it with some other language...? Like English? PS: When I press 'a' (reply to all) in KMail I get a CC to Undisclosed.Recipients, is something wrong with the ML software on eskimo? בשבת 20 ינואר 2007, 00:20, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?: I am plain, Jhon Doe, using English interface of OOo, using my favorite distro (just to make you happy, I like Fedora ;) ), what steps are needed to make it spell check Hebrew+English? Hi, Like I said, in Fedora (at least, Fedora 5 and up, I think), yum install openoffice.org-langpack-he_IL = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
ביום ראשון 14 ינואר 2007, 11:45, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman: http://netmag.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=420657 We can stop marstubating and talking about free software and imrpoove existing one. We need: * OpenOffice.org to fully support hebrew. Importing DOC files is a must. Tables inside tables a must. HSpell integration out of the box on the official builds (not only the local ones). OOo still needs polishing. * Mozilla's input line have no hebrew support. There are a log of bugs open - close them. Pango integration on X11 - which neans nijjud will work finally. * A usable ICQ client. All of the client have the same problem: no direction control, not RTF support, and no SMS support. Many people use those things on a daily basis, in fact many users have ICQ just to send SMS. * A lot of polising in the default UI presented by GNome in RTL mode. The default layout is a piece of garbage, I don't care what people think - it's just badly done. I assume more can be talked about, I will stop here. - diego = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why the Internet sucks
ביום חמישי 18 ינואר 2007, 12:38, נכתב על ידי Tzahi Fadida: Just a little correction: IIRC YES moved StarWorld to channel 270. (Just a little FYI to all the Trekkies out there :) ). Which days and hours? :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?
On the contrary to all said on this thread, I must admit that using KDE with 512 MB is quite sane. I am using this setup on a machine running Etch. kmail running for several weeks, same as akregator, Firefox 2 running on and off, konsole is usually open. The machine is very responsive a hour after I start using it every day (stupid debian updates take 20 minutes every other day, sometimes even 40 if I do not update several days). Uptime is ~60 days using a stock kernel (I actually took a kernel.org source and compiled it into *.deb, quite cool). I am also running OpenSUSE 10.1 on a very broken system (PS/2 connections does not work, and 2nd IDE is completely dead), this is why I don't have high uptimes on that machine. However, this machine has 512mb of memory, which serves me to run Firefox2, Mozilla, a full KDE desktop and all other goddies (I tried even Beryl, which I just did not like, I went back to kwin). I even run 2 X sessions on the same time: the stock SuSE desktop and the stock KDE 3.x (or 4.X) compiled from sources. Quite frankly, it works pretty good. I assume more patient is needed, but hey, nothing comes for free. Anyone else running KDE and feeling the same as me? I understand that gnome is not a pretty sight, but I would like to know what other people think of KDE :) ביום שלישי 16 ינואר 2007, 16:10, נכתב על ידי Nadav Har'El: On Tue, Jan 16, 2007, Oded Arbel wrote about Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?: I usually see a problem after about a week of usage - after a reboot it behaves itself for a few days. I rebooted this morning, and now Evo is down to 400MB. With the mad race to get better and better hardware, it seems that people forgot how to write efficient software. One of the lost arts is preventing memory leaks. There are two kind of memory-leak-like problems in modern software: 1. Real memory leaks, where the program grows, and grows, and grows, the longer it runs. 2. The program not being able to shrink its memory use, and therefore each long-running program always takes the maximum amount of memory it needed up until now. (Every mathematician learned that sum(max(...)) max(sum(...)), which is why this is such a serious problem when you're running many programs). I can, if I try very hard, understand why some clock applet should take 10 MB of memory (because it uses inefficient overly-general libraries, because it has translations into 100 different languages loaded into memory, or who knows what). What I can't understand is when the memory of such a program grows over time, forcing you to reboot every week (like you said). About a year ago, I discovered a memory leak in my favorite window manager, ctwm: I noticed that after several months (!) of continuous use, it used up a few megabytes more than it used initially. I bit of debugging (with a memory leak-finding tool that I wrote) turned out that ctwm leaked a few bytes of memory for every new window opened. After you open tens of thousands of windows over a few months, this adds up to a few megabytes. I reported the bug, and it was fixed. Contrast this to more modern software, which leaks megabytes *every day* (if not every hour), and nobody is even trying to do anything about it... Alas... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone
Do you really think copying is that bad? The conecpt of an amarok like application is a very popular one. It seems like a good applicaion, and I really miss it when no KDE is available. There are many applications which are KDE/GNOME copy. kedit/gedit, konsole/gnome-terminal, many of the games. I assume other people will be able to think about better ideas. My questions is: is it that bad? I mean, do I really want to run kdcop,kdeininit and all the KDE daemons when I am on GNOME just to hear music...? בשבת 13 ינואר 2007, 22:49, נכתב על ידי Oded Arbel: On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 16:25 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Amarok is an excellent KDE-based audio player and now it has a Gtk+-based clone called Exaile. People who are using GNOME, Xfce, etc. may wish to check out Exaile. From looking at the project page and the software itself, I get the impression that they're aiming for an Amarok copy. Now generally I don't appreciate software that has no aspirations other then to copy something else, especially free software, and especially as it appears that the only reason they're doing this is because they're not happy with Amarok's developers choice of toolkit. Also after testing the software I say that I'm not really impressed with its usability or performance. None the less, the project is in a very early stage - they released version 0.2.8 while Amarok is in version 1.4.4, so I'm going to reserve further judgement until a later date when they release something a little more mature. -- Oded ::.. [alt.usage.english, Date: 13 Aug 1994 14:59:08 MET] It seems to be impossible to parody PC. Any suggestion, no matter how outrageous, will be taken seriously by someone out there. I'm now convinced there must be people who use vertically challenged (short) and metabolically challenged (dead) with a straight face. Until people stop this madness, there's little hope of succeeding with sane proposals like avoiding he and man as gender-neutral terms. -- Keith Ivey = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: laptop
ביום שישי 29 דצמבר 2006, 13:43, נכתב על ידי Maxim Veksler: - IBM (note: Not the new lenovo junk!) I assume you are talking about the Lenovo 3000 series, which Hetz described in this thread. Do you have anything more to say about this laptio (besides what Hetz told, in which partly disagree). I agree with Hetz, crappy machine, good service (I prefer that then the other way). -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian upgrade to 2.6 and mouse problem
ביום חמישי 28 דצמבר 2006, 11:38, נכתב על ידי Ori Idan: Make sure you have the modules mousedev and psmouse loaded. I had similar problems that X could not find /dev/mouse etc. and the answer was loading these drivers. The modules for some reason are not loaded for you, hust add them to /etc/modules as Uri said. Another ugly trick is installing GPM which uses /dev/mice instead of testing for it and then failing because it does not exist yet (as Xorg does). -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
Dotan Cohen wrote: I also would like to solve this at the X level. Then we will loose the option to use ctrl+ה as a real shortcut. Sorry, no. The bug is in (IMHO) hidden somewhere inside the xul engine's code. This is why we don't see it on pure Qt/KDE applications and pure GTK applications. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scam ?
No Pelephone? No Cellcum? No ICQ? No backfall to Asterisk...? ביום רביעי 13 דצמבר 2006, 11:45, נכתב על ידי Dan Kenigsberg: Sendsms is still alive and kicking - but only with the Orange site. On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:25:33PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote: Wait, that script is working again...? It stopped working 2 years ago! -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scam ?
ביום ראשון 10 דצמבר 2006, 21:52, נכתב על ידי Oron Peled: On Sunday, 10 בDecember 2006 13:35, Nadav Har'El wrote: Pretty soon, ... which cause your phone to send 100 SMSs Wait, that script is working again...? It stopped working 2 years ago! -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for English-Hebrew trasnlator aoolication for linux.
I also toyed with this idea a few months ago. My approach was using the PO files from several translation projects (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, Mandriva). It gave me an interesting list, which covered about 15000 words. I dropped that project when I head about Limon, since I assumed that project has a smarter implementation then mine. If you are interested, the code is available online, GPL, QT4, works on Linux and Windows. http://iglu.org.il/~diego/vered/ ביום שני 04 דצמבר 2006, 11:17, נכתב על ידי Rafi Gordon: Hello linux-il, I am looking for an English-Hebrew trasnlator for linux. (prefereably for Fedora Core 6). I once (more than a year ago) installed wordtrans+babytrans on Fedora (see: http://www.escomposlinux.org/rvm/wordtrans/index.php http://fjolliton.free.fr/babytrans) But it seems to me that babytrans is a bit outdated; at least, according to their website (which was last updated in 2004, with a New maintainer needed ! headline ) it does not support the newer babylon format. There is also a nice online english-hebrew dictionary in: http://www.jlc.org.il/limon which enables adding definitions (Wiki-style), but just for example, I tried searching for a transalation for cumbersome and could not find any match. Anyhow, I am looking for a stand alone application and not a web site. Any recommendations? Rafi -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE's Selected Text/Active Title Bar Colours Are Constantly Reverted in Mandriva 2007
Shlomi, Stop wasting your time, and install Debian or Fedora like a true geek. Hell, even Ubuntu is fine. (me trolling? no way) ביום שני 04 דצמבר 2006, 21:30, נכתב על ידי Shlomi Fish: Hi all! I'm using Mandriva 2007 with KDE. The selection/windows title bar colours keep changing to saturated light blue instead of the normal darker blue that is the default. I've tried creating my own colour scheme called Shlomif Default in the KDE Control Center's Appearance Themes - Colors applet with the good configuration. It didn't help and the colours were reverted. Strangely enough when the applet is opened it displays it with the bad colours, and with the Shlomif Default scheme selected, but when I select a different scheme and revert Shlomif Default, the colours I specified are restored. But they get reverted to the bad state again after KDE is running for a while. Note that only KDE apps are affected. The Gtk+ colours remain fine. I could not find anything about it in the Mandriva bug tracker or on Google. Does anyone know how to fix it? Thanks in advance, Shlomi Fish -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: And in unrelated news - Sun releases JDK under the GPL
ביום שלישי 14 נובמבר 2006, 23:35, כתבת: On Tuesday, 14 בNovember 2006 21:26, Meir Kriheli wrote: Oded Arbel wrote: https://openjdk.dev.java.net/ Excellent news, but let's have some fun as well. Browsing the svn I stumbled by mistake on: https://openjdk.dev.java.net/source/browse/openjdk/compiler/trunk/LICENSE?v iew=markup Hmmm turns out that openjdk.dev.java.net is written in... The site is broken now. (viewcvs has it's issues I assume) I started downloading this at about 11:00 AM (how the hell did I got it that early...) and I found that most of the code is java. But there are some parts of the code written in c++ (some even using printf for debug), and I find the code very clear and well written. I was expecting to see ugly source code (want to see ugly code? look into dosemu, a very messy source code). If I were able to build the source, I would be impressed :) (were the hell is configure...? cmake... I am not even seeing qmake!) -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FTP over SSH
ביום רביעי, 25 באוקטובר 2006, 10:35, נכתב על ידי Ira Abramov: dynamic IP --(ssh)-- Fixed IP --(ftp)-- target machine I am probably missing something... but winscp (and konqueror sftp://) can handle file serving via ssh, and it only requires an SSH service available. -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: suggestion for a hebrew chat
ביום שני, 16 באוקטובר 2006, 21:02, נכתב על ידי Hetz Ben Hamo: most of the IRC server can do it I know, I'm looking for a good hebrew web based client. any recommendation? the Hebrew support is in the client side and not the server By user side I meant the client side.. GMail...? it runs linux :( -- diego, kde-il translation team - http://il.kde.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
