Re: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread Ira Abramov

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Chen Shapira wrote:

  Surely, you know about Axel Boldt's Free Unix Giveaway List,
  at http://visar.csustan.edu/giveaway.html
  
 Common guys! you must have *some* books you don't use anymore, and that
 redhat 5.1 you don't use anymore. 

I actually just donated a big bunch of linux CDs (old distros as well as
Mandrake 7) to my University's library... not a bad idea either.




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Re: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread Eli Marmor

 also, the last time i saw the dos2unix package was in redhat 5.2. so you
 should keep the old ones.

What's bad with tr, or sed, or awk?

(instead of asking for the exact commands and force me to open the
manual, RTFM!)

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Re: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Ira Abramov wrote:

 I actually just donated a big bunch of linux CDs (old distros as well as
 Mandrake 7) to my University's library... not a bad idea either.

Mine just ended up as celing decorations. :-)

Geoff.

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RE: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread Chen Shapira



 
 Ira Abramov wrote:
 
  I actually just donated a big bunch of linux CDs (old 
 distros as well as
  Mandrake 7) to my University's library... not a bad idea either.
 
 Mine just ended up as celing decorations. :-)

no no no no.

MSDN, Visual this ++, MS developer kit, win2000, win NT - these are the
ceiling decorations, car decorations, cup holders and toys for kids.

Linux CD's are being passed around, if very old they are put in a nice box
and burried in a ceremony. :-)

Chen Shapira
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)]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0J]dsJxp"|dc` 

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RE: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread Ira Abramov

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Chen Shapira wrote:

 Linux CD's are being passed around, if very old they are put in a nice box
 and burried in a ceremony. :-)

err... Gniza? that's too religious for me, and anyway CD medias tend to
gather corosion (spell?) after a decade.

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RE: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread El-al, Netta

also, the last time i saw the dos2unix package was in redhat 5.2. so you
should keep the old ones.

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Subject: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan




 
 Ira Abramov wrote:
 
  I actually just donated a big bunch of linux CDs (old 
 distros as well as
  Mandrake 7) to my University's library... not a bad idea either.
 
 Mine just ended up as celing decorations. :-)

no no no no.

MSDN, Visual this ++, MS developer kit, win2000, win NT - these are the
ceiling decorations, car decorations, cup holders and toys for kids.

Linux CD's are being passed around, if very old they are put in a nice box
and burried in a ceremony. :-)

Chen Shapira
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",
)]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0J]dsJxp"|dc` 


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Re: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Thu, Jan 20, 2000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote about "Re: [iglu] Re: The Unified 
Resource Locator Plan":
 Ira Abramov wrote:
 
  I actually just donated a big bunch of linux CDs (old distros as well as
  Mandrake 7) to my University's library... not a bad idea either.
 
 Mine just ended up as celing decorations. :-)

With blank writable CDs costing around 7 shekels, and CD writers common,
*PLEASE* don't try to "donate" old Linux distributions. It's much like
giving away the rotten food in your refrigerator to the poor... They
won't be able to enjoy it, and you've done no good to anyone.

When a Linux newbie gets an old distribution, installs it only to find that
it doesn't support his "new" video card (which is supported in the latest
distribution), and doesn't have the programs he expects (mp3 player, star
office, or who knows what) - *he* will make your linux CD into a car
decoration, and will not go near Linux for 5 years!! :(
In giving away old Linux distributions you're only doing a bad service to
Linux publicity!

If you want to do a friend a favor, copy him a new Linux CD (e.g., Mandrake
7, or even Redhat 6.1). Or, if you don't have one yourself, and order from
cheapbytes (or something like it), order more than you'll need, and give
the rest (or sell them cheaply) to friends.

When I wanted Redhat 6.1 for myself, I ordered 4 copies from cheapbytes (when
dividing also the shipping, each cost 20 shekels), and the day they arrived
I had 6 orders from friends, so I had to make more copies. I also have an old
copy of Redhat 6.0 (and an original Redhat 5.2, and an old Slackware on
diskettes(!)), but I would never give them to my friends, maybe to a museum :)


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Re: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-20 Thread Ira Abramov

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote:

  Mine just ended up as celing decorations. :-)
 
 With blank writable CDs costing around 7 shekels, and CD writers common,
 *PLEASE* don't try to "donate" old Linux distributions. It's much like

a. it's better than nothing
b. I didn't donate anything older than a year, I have older stuff, but I
keep that as nostalgy (anyone for RedHat 5.9, home made snapshot with
powertools and ssh?)
c. I don't buy media at such outragious prices. this week I got another
batch of 100 at 3.30 each, usually they cost up to 4.50  with VAT for
batches of 1000, you find friends and split the stash... jeez, I sound
like a weed smoker :-)

 it doesn't support his "new" video card (which is supported in the latest

if a person running a Matrox G400 comes and asks for a distro, I'll give
him Mandrake 7.

 In giving away old Linux distributions you're only doing a bad service to
 Linux publicity!

they were not all that bad. it's not like I'm giving away Slackware 1.2

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RE: [iglu] Re: The Unified Resource Locator Plan

2000-01-19 Thread Chen Shapira


 Surely, you know about Axel Boldt's Free Unix Giveaway List,
 at http://visar.csustan.edu/giveaway.html
 

Didn't see it until now, but yes! this is what I want to have! 
Israeli give away list. (perhaps with a more sofisticated database behind
it)

Common guys! you must have *some* books you don't use anymore, and that
redhat 5.1 you don't use anymore. 

The guy who just learned linux using that RH5.1 you given away could be the
one who'll write that driver you desperately need. And the guy who just
borrowed your camel book, can tomorrow lend you a Java programming book,
which is just what you need for your next project.

 
Linux is about community. If we help each other, all will benefit.

Chen Shapira
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the most lovely hack I've seen.


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