Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-13 Thread Aviram Jenik



 I think I read somewhere that certain FTP servers recognize a convention
 when you have the homedir in the password file changed from /home/luser
 to /home/luser/./ it becomes chrooted when they log in.


Yes, it will try to chroot but fail if the directory structure is wrong.
This is a necessary step, but not sufficient ;-)

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Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-13 Thread guy keren

On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Mike wrote:

 BUT !, the configuration can work in GOOD way only on little amount of
 users. this is becouse you need to copy the etc,lib and bin directories from
 the anonftp root to each and evry user.
 i tried to use symbolic links but as i can recall it didn't work.

ofcourse, having read the docs, or making a search on deja.com, you would
have found that plenty of people before you tried to do the same thing,
and got many answers on many news groups (and mailing lists).

 My question was how to do the same thing , User will NOT be able to view
 other directories other then their own home directory and will not be able
 to "travel" to other dirs.

if your question was that, then that was what you should have written
initially.

 In other words, the users directory will be his root directory, without the
 use of anonftp and the etc,bin and lib dirs that need to be copied to it.

wuftpd does not support chrooted accounts without the appropriate
directory structure - this is how it seems to be. however, no one tells
you not to automate the process of creating such accounts...

now, just to be sure that it is indeed only your slight lazyness that
disabled you from finding this out, i went to deja.com , went to power
search, typed in 'ftpd chroot user setup', then clicked on the 'search'
button. and then - what a surprise. i saw a large set of letters
pertaining to this exact question. one of those contained full
documentation (it took about 10 minutes until i got to that letter, after
i dismissed several that gave some partial answers out of which i could
have formed the complete story, if i wanted to). bellow is the URL to the
specific answer i saw - i'm not sure if this link will work for you, but
it might:



http://x32.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=443881299.1CONTEXT=947788914.1802895379hitnum=23



if you copypaste it, make sure not to leave in any spaces that might
result due to my mail client (or yours) breaking this long line into
several lines.

so, what are my conclusions:

1. if one is not lazy, and thinks he knows how to read and digest texts,
   one makes a search in deja.com for answers to such questions.

2. one also never assumes that everything they try to do is new and
   unique, but rather that many people have done so before, and thus
   assume there is a good chance of finding an already good reply in
   various archives of news groups, mailing lists and web sites.

3. one also understands that going to a mailing list with questinos of
   this sort 1-2 times per week will eventually result anger on the part
   of other people on that mailing list.

4. one will eventually realize that for everyone's sake (including one's
   sake), it is much more polite if one learns how to use such search
   techniques to look for people who already spent time on answering those
   questions, then asking people to re-create answers that could be found
   by one in such a (rather short) search.

5. finally, if one receives a polite question via email, regarding one's
   many posts on the mailing lists, it is only courtesy that one will
   answer that letter (this is a hint...).


guy

"For world domination - press 1,
 or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy



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Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-12 Thread Meir


FYI, there were some security warning on wu-ftp-'old-versions', one or two
month ago.
Upgrade to wu-ftp-2.6.0-something

Sorry, but I don't know where to find it.

hth

-- Meir


Mike wrote:

 Hi list.
 I just installed WU-FTPD 2.5.0 and have some problems with restriction of
 users.
 I add the guestgroup directive with all my "guest" users groups but when i
 tried to enter the server i did not saw any library.
 Now, i think that the problem happened becouse i DO NOT have a anonymous FTP
 server.
 I do not want to install an anonymous ftp server (i just want wu-ftpd) so my
 question is how can i restrict users from traveling around my HD without it.

 Thanks,

 Mike

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RE: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-12 Thread Chen Shapira


If you use RH you can get the patch in RPM from the errata page (the one
with the security patches)

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Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-12 Thread Mike

Hi.

Let me explain several things...
First of all, thanks to all those who reply to my question :-).
Secound, I know how to do it in WU-FTPD with anonftp configuration, and it
works ok.
BUT !, the configuration can work in GOOD way only on little amount of
users. this is becouse you need to copy the etc,lib and bin directories from
the anonftp root to each and evry user.
i tried to use symbolic links but as i can recall it didn't work.

My question was how to do the same thing , User will NOT be able to view
other directories other then their own home directory and will not be able
to "travel" to other dirs.
In other words, the users directory will be his root directory, without the
use of anonftp and the etc,bin and lib dirs that need to be copied to it.

Thanks,

Mike




- Original Message -
From: "Tzafrir Cohen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mike" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.


 Just one more thing: on RH (at least) the anonftp package includes the
 ffiles you need for the chroot environment (stuff under /home/ftp). This
 is also needed for guest access. Then all you have to do is disable
 "annonymous" and "real" access, and create accounts for the "guest"s

 never tried it, though

  Mike wrote:
 
   Hi list.
   I just installed WU-FTPD 2.5.0 and have some problems with restriction
of
   users.
   I add the guestgroup directive with all my "guest" users groups but
when i
   tried to enter the server i did not saw any library.
   Now, i think that the problem happened becouse i DO NOT have a
anonymous FTP
   server.
   I do not want to install an anonymous ftp server (i just want wu-ftpd)
so my
   question is how can i restrict users from traveling around my HD
without it.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Mike

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RE: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-11 Thread Chen Shapira

 I just installed WU-FTPD 2.5.0 and have some problems with 
 restriction of
 users.

Pull the ethernet cable from the computer, that'll restrict them.

 I add the guestgroup directive with all my "guest" users 
 groups but when i
 tried to enter the server i did not saw any library.

The reasonable way to ask this question is to attach a copy of your
ftpaccess file so we'll see what went wrong and be able to help you.

You *do* know what is the ftpaccess file is, right?

 Now, i think that the problem happened becouse i DO NOT have 
 a anonymous FTP
 server.

Oh, boy! You didn't read the doc's did you? you didn't search the net.
probably didn't look anywhere.

You are so dead wrong here that I feel like laughing. 

Do yourself a favor, don't humiliate yourself in public and think before
asking.

WU-Ftpd is  ftp server which can be anonymous or not as you configure it.


 I do not want to install an anonymous ftp server (i just want 
 wu-ftpd) so my

I hate mentioning the obvious, but wu-ftpd allows anonymous and logged
access depending on the configuration.

 question is how can i restrict users from traveling around my 
 HD without it.

Oh, they are restricted alright, what you want is to make them less
restricted and let them see something.

Conclusion:

1. If you'd bother to read the WUFTPD fine manuals you'd know what to do,
and you'd save yourself some public humiliation.
2. If you don't read the doc, atleast make sure your question makes sense
and that you know what an ftp server is.
3. I might overlook your stupidity and help anyway if the ftpaccess file was
attached.

 Chen Shapira
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Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-11 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt


"Mike" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 all you could do is to tell me to read the HOWTO.

That's the point: we shouldn't ;-)

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 And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare.

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Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.

2000-01-11 Thread Mike

Hi Hetz
The thing is that i KNOW how to do it.
the way that the wu-ftpd works is by applying the guest restrictions to the
users.
However they said there that it uses the anonymous ftp settings.
Well, i DO NOT want to open unneccery ftp account (anonymous in that case)
due to security issues.
i know that there other ways to restrict users from seeing other users
libraries and such.

If anyone has a better/simple way to do that then please let me know.

Mike

- Original Message -
From: "Hetz Ben Hamo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Mike" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to restrict users from serfing around my server via FTP.


 Hi Mike,

 Don't take it that seriously, people here are laughing sometimes (they
 did to me to also few time)..

 Anyway, the best way if you want can be to install ncftpd (but it's
 commercial) - its a great FTP daemon program and does exactly what u
 need very easily.

 Thanks
 Hetz


 Mike wrote:
 
  You know, all i asked is a simple question.
  all you could do is to tell me to read the HOWTO.
  and BTW, i did and i know how to do it, however this time it didn't
  worked...
  Next time please do not insult me, or better simply DO NOT reply to my
  question.
 
  Thanks for nothing
 
  Mike
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Chen Shapira" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "'Mike'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Linux-il"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 11:39 AM
  Subject: RE: How to restrict users from serving around my server via
FTP.
 
I just installed WU-FTPD 2.5.0 and have some problems with
restriction of
users.
  
   Pull the Ethernet cable from the computer, that'll restrict them.
  
I add the guestgroup directive with all my "guest" users
groups but when i
tried to enter the server i did not saw any library.
  
   The reasonable way to ask this question is to attach a copy of your
   ftpaccess file so we'll see what went wrong and be able to help you.
  
   You *do* know what is the ftpaccess file is, right?
  
Now, i think that the problem happened becouse i DO NOT have
a anonymous FTP
server.
  
   Oh, boy! You didn't read the doc's did you? you didn't search the net.
   probably didn't look anywhere.
  
   You are so dead wrong here that I feel like laughing.
  
   Do yourself a favor, don't humiliate yourself in public and think
before
   asking.
  
   WU-Ftpd is  ftp server which can be anonymous or not as you configure
it.
  
  
I do not want to install an anonymous ftp server (i just want
wu-ftpd) so my
  
   I hate mentioning the obvious, but wu-ftpd allows anonymous and logged
   access depending on the configuration.
  
question is how can i restrict users from traveling around my
HD without it.
  
   Oh, they are restricted alright, what you want is to make them less
   restricted and let them see something.
  
   Conclusion:
  
   1. If you'd bother to read the WUFTPD fine manuals you'd know what to
do,
   and you'd save yourself some public humiliation.
   2. If you don't read the doc, atleast make sure your question makes
sense
   and that you know what an ftp server is.
   3. I might overlook your stupidity and help anyway if the ftpaccess
file
  was
   attached.
  
Chen Shapira
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Queen Isabella where are you today?
   The new Chris. Colombus is wasting away.
  
 
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