RE: Triple Triplicates (was: Re: hebrew lecture)

2000-12-18 Thread Ely Levy

with nadav's permission I can add the ivrix list to linux-il-annonce and
solve this problem

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University 
Jerusalem Israel



On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Chen Shapira wrote:

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|  > Any PRACTICAL ideas how to cut down this triplication?
|  
|  Start by NEVER sending mail to both IGLU and linux-il, IGLU is a subset of
|  linux-il for planning activities, therefore all mail sent to linux-il is
|  automatically read by all iglu members, noneed to mail both.
|  In addition announcments should never be sent to IGLU.
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|  Ivrix should decide whether they subset Linux-il, or they just have few
|  common memebers that will suffer duplications.
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Re: Triple Triplicates (was: Re: hebrew lecture)

2000-12-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Any PRACTICAL ideas how to cut down this triplication?

man procmailex or look it up in the archives of linux-il. The posters
can just post to linux-il, I think (I am not sure). In any case,
that's what I did, to avoid sending *this* message in triplicate. :-)

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Re: Triple Triplicates (was: Re: hebrew lecture)

2000-12-17 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000, Omer Zak wrote about "Triple Triplicates (was: Re: hebrew 
lecture)":
> Since I am subscribed to both Linux-IL, IGLU and Ivrix mailing lists, I
> received the Hebrew Lecture Announcement (henceforth to be referred to as
> HLA (TM)) in triplicate.
> 
> I also received subsequent discussion in triplicate.  And I am sure that
> several people will receive this followup in triplicate.
> 
> Any PRACTICAL ideas how to cut down this triplication?

Here's another message you'll be recieving 3 (or maybe even 4!) times :)

In my opinion this "triplication" isn't a terrible thing - each of the mailing
lists I subscribe to goes to a different folder, and the fact that a copy
of the same message goes to each of these folders is very helpful in keeping
a sensible message order when I read the folder of one mailing list.

But if you really want to cut this triplication to zero, you (or actually
the entire community) will need to choose one of two options:
 1. Move all the discussion about *everything* to linux-il. This includes
Hebrew, Haifa Linux club, and everything.
 2. Have seperate lists for seperate issues: send Hebrew stuff to
ivrix-discuss, Haifa-club stuff to that mailing list, and so on.
This solution is sort-of working right now, though some people seem
not to like it, and split the Hebrew discussions between linux-il
and ivrix-discuss (or crosspost to both).

Another solution to get rid of "triplication", a technological solution
(instead of the "sociological" solution above), is to use a procmail filter
to get rid of duplicate messages. The following solution is suggested in
the 'procmailex' manual (see that manual for other variants):

:0 Whc: msgid.lock
| formail -D 4096 $HOME/msgid.cache

:0 a:
duplicates




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RE: Triple Triplicates (was: Re: hebrew lecture)

2000-12-17 Thread Chen Shapira


> Any PRACTICAL ideas how to cut down this triplication?

Start by NEVER sending mail to both IGLU and linux-il, IGLU is a subset of
linux-il for planning activities, therefore all mail sent to linux-il is
automatically read by all iglu members, no need to mail both. 
In addition announcments should never be sent to IGLU.

Ivrix should decide whether they subset Linux-il, or they just have few
common memebers that will suffer duplications.

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Triple Triplicates (was: Re: hebrew lecture)

2000-12-17 Thread Omer Zak

Since I am subscribed to both Linux-IL, IGLU and Ivrix mailing lists, I
received the Hebrew Lecture Announcement (henceforth to be referred to as
HLA (TM)) in triplicate.

I also received subsequent discussion in triplicate.  And I am sure that
several people will receive this followup in triplicate.

Any PRACTICAL ideas how to cut down this triplication?
 --- Omer
There is no IGLU Cabal.  The former IGLU members were flooded by E-mail
from 37 Israeli/Hebrew Linux related mailing lists, to which the
subscribers cross-posted in the ultimate possible way.  Only after the
IGLU Cabal was disbanded, were 34 mailing lists shut down.
WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html

On 17 Dec 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

> Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The sixth lecture in the "Welcome to Linux" lecture series will be held
> > Tommorow, Monday 18.12.2000, at the Technion CS department
> > Auditorium 1.
>
> What hour?
>
> Will the notes be available?


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