now this is something.
Hi All After 3 years in the list I found after 2 days that I don't receive any messages, i checked and found that im not subscribed. was it maintain failure ? any one else experienced this ? -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: now this is something.
Hi, Ben-Nes! On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:37:10PM +0300, you wrote the following: After 3 years in the list I found after 2 days that I don't receive any messages, i checked and found that im not subscribed. was it maintain failure ? any one else experienced this ? Just checked the Listar messages -- it says that between July 23rd and 24th it received 14 bounces from you saying "we do not relay", so it unsubscribed you. -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA /real/ kernel hackers dd if=/dev/urandom of=/vmlinuz and influence the Universal Randomosity Field. -- Gaal Yahas = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: now this is something.
What could be the cause of this ? I am the mail admin and i not even touched it in the last month and any why its not filtering any of the incoming messages. maybe it related with dns ? Alex Shnitman wrote: Hi, Ben-Nes! On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:37:10PM +0300, you wrote the following: After 3 years in the list I found after 2 days that I don't receive any messages, i checked and found that im not subscribed. was it maintain failure ? any one else experienced this ? Just checked the Listar messages -- it says that between July 23rd and 24th it received 14 bounces from you saying "we do not relay", so it unsubscribed you. -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA /real/ kernel hackers dd if=/dev/urandom of=/vmlinuz and influence the Universal Randomosity Field. -- Gaal Yahas = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://www.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: now this is something.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: What could be the cause of this ? I am the mail admin and i not even touched it in the last month and any why its not filtering any of the incoming messages. maybe it related with dns ? wild guess: IIX was down tonight for a few hours, your mail went to a secondary MX that doesn't know it's your secondary so it bounced it. see who your secondary MX is, and make sure it accepts mail for you. now kick this off the list, this is where it starts getting off topic. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: now this is something.
Hi, Ben-Nes! On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 02:59:45PM +0300, you wrote the following: What could be the cause of this ? I am the mail admin and i not even touched it in the last month and any why its not filtering any of the incoming messages. maybe it related with dns ? I don't know, unfortunately I don't have the original bounce message anymore. Perhaps one of the other linux-il admins has it and can check it out to see what's the problem? -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA A bit of irony for you: Bill Gates claims to be trying to make a stable operating system, while Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over the world. -- Ernie Miller = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: now this is something.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Alex Shnitman wrote:
Hi, Ben-Nes!
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 02:59:45PM +0300, you wrote the following:
What could be the cause of this ?
I am the mail admin and i not even touched it in the last month and any why
its not filtering any of the incoming messages.
maybe it related with dns ?
I don't know, unfortunately I don't have the original bounce message
anymore. Perhaps one of the other linux-il admins has it and can check
it out to see what's the problem?
--
Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +---
http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page
E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA
A bit of irony for you: Bill Gates claims to be trying to make a stable
operating system, while Linus Torvalds claims to be trying to take over
the world.
-- Ernie Miller
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Hold on, this might not be so OT yet. We had DNS problems yesterday
because of a faulty NIC in tango.tcltek.co.il. The problem lasted from
about 15:00 until 22:30 yesterday. The secondaries should have worked fine
though.
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Re: now this is something.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2000, Ben-Nes Michael wrote about "Re: now this is something.": Alex Shnitman wrote: Hi, Ben-Nes! On Thu, Jul 27, 2000 at 01:37:10PM +0300, you wrote the following: After 3 years in the list I found after 2 days that I don't receive any messages, i checked and found that im not subscribed. was it maintain failure ? any one else experienced this ? Just checked the Listar messages -- it says that between July 23rd and 24th it received 14 bounces from you saying "we do not relay", so it unsubscribed you. All the replies to the above question seemed to focus on why exactly his messages bounced for two days. But the fact is that it is quite normal for mail hosts to go down (or worse, come up with a bad configuration) for two days. Of course, big companies keep backup servers, redundant network connections, secondary mail exchanges and all kinds of tricks to keep such an embaracing thing from happening but small sites often can't afford it, or don't know how to do it. So the mailing list managers must be less "trigger-happy", and not remove people with bouncing addresses until, say, 2 weeks have passed. Even errors like "user not known" are not "final" - it can simply mean, for example, that the mailserver's disks got trashed, and the OS was reinstalled and brought online but not all backups were brought back (this shouldn't be done, of course, but it nevertheless happens). This is what I do on the mailing lists I run. P.S. from my experience, "we do not relay" bounces usually happen when the machine is down, and a secondary mail-exchange was set up for it without that other machine's administrator being notified of this. For example, a Netvision customer may assume that he can put "mx10.netvision.net.il" as a secondary mail exchange, but this is not true without talking to Netvision's admins first. -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Jul 27 2000, 24 Tammuz 5760 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer http://nadav.harel.org.il |system that can be kicked. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
