Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:54:17PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > FWIW the documentation seems to imply that the option is necessary only > when directly booting from SRM, i.e.. no bootloader is involved at all. Err, well, you can't have _no_ bootloader. > It uses the example of MILO's presence or absence as indicating the need > for this option. Exactly. aboot doesn't substitute. > So... is it safe to always enable this option, with a little hacking > perhaps? :) Well, yes, it is obviously possible. The generic config does what you want. You just need to permanently enable some of that configury. r~ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
Richard Henderson wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 06:48:30PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > When built with CONFIG_ALPHA_NAUTILUS, my UP1000's IDE totally fails. > > Mine doesn't. > > > I am booting w/ aboot 0.7a from SRM, -without- the > > srm-as-bootloader kernel config option. > > That is the error. Ok, thanks. FWIW the documentation seems to imply that the option is necessary only when directly booting from SRM, i.e.. no bootloader is involved at all. It uses the example of MILO's presence or absence as indicating the need for this option. So... is it safe to always enable this option, with a little hacking perhaps? :) Regards, Jeff > Using SRM as bootloader > CONFIG_ALPHA_SRM > There are two different types of booting firmware on Alphas: SRM, > which is command line driven, and ARC, which uses menus and arrow > keys. Details about the Linux/Alpha booting process are contained in > the Linux/Alpha FAQ, accessible on the WWW from > http://www.alphalinux.org . > > The usual way to load Linux on an Alpha machine is to use MILO > (a bootloader that lets you pass command line parameters to the > kernel just like lilo does for the x86 architecture) which can be > loaded either from ARC or can be installed directly as a permanent > firmware replacement from floppy (which requires changing a certain > jumper on the motherboard). If you want to do either of these, say N > here. If MILO doesn't work on your system (true for Jensen > motherboards), you can bypass it altogether and boot Linux directly > from an SRM console; say Y here in order to do that. Note that you > won't be able to boot from an IDE disk using SRM. > > If unsure, say N. -- Jeff Garzik | Disbelief, that's why you fail. Building 1024| MandrakeSoft | - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 06:48:30PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > When built with CONFIG_ALPHA_NAUTILUS, my UP1000's IDE totally fails. Mine doesn't. > I am booting w/ aboot 0.7a from SRM, -without- the > srm-as-bootloader kernel config option. That is the error. r~ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:54:17PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: FWIW the documentation seems to imply that the option is necessary only when directly booting from SRM, i.e.. no bootloader is involved at all. Err, well, you can't have _no_ bootloader. It uses the example of MILO's presence or absence as indicating the need for this option. Exactly. aboot doesn't substitute. So... is it safe to always enable this option, with a little hacking perhaps? :) Well, yes, it is obviously possible. The generic config does what you want. You just need to permanently enable some of that configury. r~ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 06:48:30PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: When built with CONFIG_ALPHA_NAUTILUS, my UP1000's IDE totally fails. Mine doesn't. I am booting w/ aboot 0.7a from SRM, -without- the srm-as-bootloader kernel config option. That is the error. r~ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
Richard Henderson wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 06:48:30PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: When built with CONFIG_ALPHA_NAUTILUS, my UP1000's IDE totally fails. Mine doesn't. I am booting w/ aboot 0.7a from SRM, -without- the srm-as-bootloader kernel config option. That is the error. Ok, thanks. FWIW the documentation seems to imply that the option is necessary only when directly booting from SRM, i.e.. no bootloader is involved at all. It uses the example of MILO's presence or absence as indicating the need for this option. So... is it safe to always enable this option, with a little hacking perhaps? :) Regards, Jeff Using SRM as bootloader CONFIG_ALPHA_SRM There are two different types of booting firmware on Alphas: SRM, which is command line driven, and ARC, which uses menus and arrow keys. Details about the Linux/Alpha booting process are contained in the Linux/Alpha FAQ, accessible on the WWW from http://www.alphalinux.org . The usual way to load Linux on an Alpha machine is to use MILO (a bootloader that lets you pass command line parameters to the kernel just like lilo does for the x86 architecture) which can be loaded either from ARC or can be installed directly as a permanent firmware replacement from floppy (which requires changing a certain jumper on the motherboard). If you want to do either of these, say N here. If MILO doesn't work on your system (true for Jensen motherboards), you can bypass it altogether and boot Linux directly from an SRM console; say Y here in order to do that. Note that you won't be able to boot from an IDE disk using SRM. If unsure, say N. -- Jeff Garzik | Disbelief, that's why you fail. Building 1024| MandrakeSoft | - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
It should note, though, that -not- using CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC seems to have a detrimental effect on my machines, in 2.4.5 vanilla. When built with CONFIG_ALPHA_NAUTILUS, my UP1000's IDE totally fails. It probes the drives ok, on boot, but a logic hang occurs where no more boot progress can be made. All I get are "hda: lost interrupt" messages. I am booting w/ aboot 0.7a from SRM, -without- the srm-as-bootloader kernel config option. These problems go away when using the generic MDK alpha kernel, which is based on Alan's '2.4.4-ac' patchkit, and uses CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC. A very similar problem occurs on my new test alpha, a miata. With CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA, IDE fails with "hda: lost interrupt" as above, but additionally, the keyboard is no longer recognized. Again, with MDK(ac) kernel, things work fine. After wondering for a while what magic was in the 'ac' patchkit, I realized that my build needed CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC to work. Tested that theory... sure enough, I can boot 2.4.5-vanilla no problems now. -- Jeff Garzik | Disbelief, that's why you fail. Building 1024| MandrakeSoft | - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: [PATCH] Re: 2.4.5 does not link on Ruffian (alpha)
It should note, though, that -not- using CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC seems to have a detrimental effect on my machines, in 2.4.5 vanilla. When built with CONFIG_ALPHA_NAUTILUS, my UP1000's IDE totally fails. It probes the drives ok, on boot, but a logic hang occurs where no more boot progress can be made. All I get are hda: lost interrupt messages. I am booting w/ aboot 0.7a from SRM, -without- the srm-as-bootloader kernel config option. These problems go away when using the generic MDK alpha kernel, which is based on Alan's '2.4.4-ac' patchkit, and uses CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC. A very similar problem occurs on my new test alpha, a miata. With CONFIG_ALPHA_MIATA, IDE fails with hda: lost interrupt as above, but additionally, the keyboard is no longer recognized. Again, with MDK(ac) kernel, things work fine. After wondering for a while what magic was in the 'ac' patchkit, I realized that my build needed CONFIG_ALPHA_GENERIC to work. Tested that theory... sure enough, I can boot 2.4.5-vanilla no problems now. -- Jeff Garzik | Disbelief, that's why you fail. Building 1024| MandrakeSoft | - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
