Re: PDF?
Peter Cornelius wrote: Thanks to C Falconer for the http://rute.sourceforge.net/ pointer to the 600 page manual. I spent 20 minutes downloading it, but it won't open as it 'doesn't start with a %pdf'! (The first problem I've encountered with a pdf file.) How did you achieve the printout for your school library, C? Do you still have a copy of the printable file? At 10cents a page realistic cost of printing or photocopying, plus your time, plus something to hold it all together, is this really the way to go when you can buy the book from Amazon for US$28 (or S/H at $20) - probably ~NZ$75 including postage? But do get it somehow - it's a superb resource IMHO. Rob Robert Sherlock[EMAIL PROTECTED] SmartWork Systems Ltd. PO Box 36-515, Christchurch, New Zealand. Phone (+64) 3 355-4194 Fax (+64) 3 355-4199
Re: PDF?
Robert Sherlock wrote: At 10cents a page realistic cost of printing or photocopying, plus your time, plus something to hold it all together, is this really the way to go when you can buy the book from Amazon for US$28 (or S/H at $20) - probably ~NZ$75 including postage? But do get it somehow - it's a superb resource IMHO. Some printer drivers allow you to put multiple pages onto a single sheet. Combined with duplex printng, it can be a real paper saver. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)
Re: Is there a 'digest' version of this list?
Yet another reason why a message board would be a good idea! At 17:02 24/07/02 +1200, you wrote: I am subscribed to this list and the volume is increasing. It would be better for me to receive it in digest form rather than the separate messages. Is this possible and how to do it? regards Peter Davenport - JJ :: Support and Webdesign E-Mail :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soupfiction.cjb.net http://www.mixingsoup.com -
Re: nVidia video cards
Your only mad if you answer you self back.. :)) I saw you talking to yourself Nick ;-) so? I never said I _wasn't_ mad! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au - Find yourself a bargain!
Re: $100 Donation for installfest/CLUG expenses
Ditto, thank you from all of us, and the penguins.. - Original Message - From: Tim Wright I got an email from a person of whom would prefer to stay anonymous yesterday. Offering to donate $100 to CLUG in exchange for 50 floppy discs that we have left over from the installfest. I took the liberty of accepting his kind generousity, and thanking him very much on our behalf. I'm *guessing* he's on the list, so big thanks :) I guess next time we should do a little budget beforehand. tim http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~tnw13 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Re: PDF?
I bought that book from amazon, at the start of march (when the exchange rate was 0.4184 - no my memory is not _that_ good, i'm looking at the visa statement), anyway, it cost me $95.51... not bad eh, for a free book :) The proper publishers version is as thick as the chch yellow pages too though. I've used the book a few times, but it looks good on the shelf. I find the HTML version to be the best... its alot easier to navigate (mataphorically: RAM) when you have no idea what your after. The pdf has no cross reference linking (metaphorically: Tape), and scrolling 660 pages can be a mission. Good book tho... seems to have everything. Steve. On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:33:40PM +1200, Robert Sherlock wrote: Peter Cornelius wrote: Thanks to C Falconer for the http://rute.sourceforge.net/ pointer to the 600 page manual. I spent 20 minutes downloading it, but it won't open as it 'doesn't start with a %pdf'! (The first problem I've encountered with a pdf file.) How did you achieve the printout for your school library, C? Do you still have a copy of the printable file? At 10cents a page realistic cost of printing or photocopying, plus your time, plus something to hold it all together, is this really the way to go when you can buy the book from Amazon for US$28 (or S/H at $20) - probably ~NZ$75 including postage? But do get it somehow - it's a superb resource IMHO. Rob Robert Sherlock[EMAIL PROTECTED] SmartWork Systems Ltd. PO Box 36-515, Christchurch, New Zealand. Phone (+64) 3 355-4194 Fax (+64) 3 355-4199 -- )Stephen Nicholas( Uni Hall Ph: (03) 341 1500 Private Bag 4760 Extn: 54419 Christchurch 021 504 412 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 70245950 )---www.steve.nicholas.net.nz(
Newspaper Article
I cut the newspaper artice from the PRESS but lost it(it was about the success of the installfest) Ohh well. READ TODAYS PAPER Thanks,Ben Devine --=-- http://www.cocojumbo.tk --==-- http://www.apples.tk --=--
Re: PDF?
Some printer drivers allow you to put multiple pages onto a single sheet. Combined with duplex printng, it can be a real paper saver. So do some linux's when they have mpage installed ;) Print the pdf to postscript, or download a postscript version if it exists and then morph the rute document to your fancy. Some of the options might take a little figuring out but the basics are pretty straight forward. My favourite has to be squeezing 8 pages per sheet and then printing every second page, then every other second page with the pages back in the printer. Probably only cost a couple of dollars for printing out the whole lot then - dont forget to budget for a magnifying glass tho! Sascha
Re: PDF?
Yeah - I did 4-up printing with double siding, and bound the resulting stack. In all, 75-odd sheets of paper. And it has actually been taken out of the library about three times. On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 20:33, Robert Sherlock wrote: Peter Cornelius wrote: Thanks to C Falconer for the http://rute.sourceforge.net/ pointer to the 600 page manual. I spent 20 minutes downloading it, but it won't open as it 'doesn't start with a %pdf'! (The first problem I've encountered with a pdf file.) How did you achieve the printout for your school library, C? Do you still have a copy of the printable file? At 10cents a page realistic cost of printing or photocopying, plus your time, plus something to hold it all together, is this really the way to go when you can buy the book from Amazon for US$28 (or S/H at $20) - probably ~NZ$75 including postage? But do get it somehow - it's a superb resource IMHO. Rob Robert Sherlock[EMAIL PROTECTED] SmartWork Systems Ltd. PO Box 36-515, Christchurch, New Zealand. Phone (+64) 3 355-4194 Fax (+64) 3 355-4199
RE: Newspaper Article
I've scanned it and put it on the site for those who want to read... http://www.linuxnut.co.nz, under news... And a big thanks to the person who spoke to the press.. (Leo?) Cheers, Chris H. -Original Message- From: Ben Devine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2002 6:59 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Newspaper Article I cut the newspaper artice from the PRESS but lost it(it was about the success of the installfest) Ohh well. READ TODAYS PAPER Thanks, Ben Devine --=-- http://www.cocojumbo.tk --=-- --=-- http://www.apples.tk--=-- ## The contents of this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author, and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Selwyn District Council ##
Re: Newspaper Article
Ben, do NOT try and cut the image off your screen. I've scanned it and put it on the site for those who want to read... http://www.linuxnut.co.nz, under news... I cut the newspaper artice from the PRESS but lost it(it was about the success of the installfest) Ohh well. READ TODAYS PAPER -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 3798966 Fax + 64 3 3798853 http://www.rout.co.nz
Linus Torvald's OS teacher
We have a visiting academic from the University of Helsinki. I asked him if he had met Linus. He said that Linus had taken his OS course in 1991, so if I had any complaints about Linux Cheers, -- Carl Cerecke, Assistant Lecturer|email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Computer Science, |Phone: +64 3 364 2987 ext. 7859 University of Canterbury, |Fax:+64 3 364 2569 Private Bag 4800, |http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~cdc Christchurch, New Zealand. |
Re: Installfest-Lost
On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 07:08:31PM +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote: Well who cares about the milk, just put it in your stomach, nobody wants to see it at the next meeting, let alone smell it. I dunno, it'd add a bit of culture :-) joghurt? greetings, martin. -- looking for a job anywhere in the world, doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium /pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration. -- pike programmer open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unix(iaeste|bahai).or.at iaeste.tuwien.ac.at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bahrhttp://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: /etc/fstab [was: Re: Install Fest Post Mortem]
try make install, it first offers to create a boot disk and then if you choose no, offers to run lilo. - Original Message - From: Hansen Loke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:26 AM Subject: Re: /etc/fstab [was: Re: Install Fest Post Mortem] This unpacks the source, and creates a directory called kernel-source-2.4.18 (or something similier). Change to that directory and type: make xconfig Work through it. And as it's my first kernel compile, I'll select no when I'm asked about support for modules. Ook, I have configured to add in ntfs and vfat filesystem in the config, then I thought I could use bzDisk (I think) to make a boot disk first, that didn't work. Once my computer rebooted and tries to load from the disk it says: Loading. then reset the computer again! And it just keeps going in cycles. I haven't had time to use make bzImage yet but can someone tell me what to do with the compiled file once I've compiled it? The kernel document only describes what to do if I have lilo but I have GRUB (for multi booting system) and am booting off the mbr. Cheers, Hansen
Printing the Rute manual
I made enquiries with the Digital Print Centre on Victoria street just now. Based on 660 pages printed 2 up on both sides (ie the pages end up A5 size) the cost to print and bind with spiral binding is roughly: printing: $40.50 binding : $5.40 trimming: 3.75 Total : $49.65 They would print onto a4 and then cut it in half and bind it. This is also contingent on there not being too much black on the pages. This price is for 1-4 copies, so if we got a lot done it would be less, but he was a bit vague about that. It could be worth getting an order together. This is cheaper then getting it from Amazon $30 US plus (say) $15 US postage, double it to NZ$ = $90. The cheapest large commercial offerings on linux are over $100 in Whitcoulls. Thoughts -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing the Rute manual
What sort of binding is that? At 330 leaves (is that the correct term?) thick which is nearly a ream (500), my experience with that plastic binding at that thickness is not very good. - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] I made enquiries with the Digital Print Centre on Victoria street just now. Based on 660 pages printed 2 up on both sides (ie the pages end up A5 size) the cost to print and bind with spiral binding is roughly: printing: $40.50 binding : $5.40 trimming: 3.75 Total : $49.65 They would print onto a4 and then cut it in half and bind it. This is also contingent on there not being too much black on the pages. This price is for 1-4 copies, so if we got a lot done it would be less, but he was a bit vague about that. It could be worth getting an order together. This is cheaper then getting it from Amazon $30 US plus (say) $15 US postage, double it to NZ$ = $90. The cheapest large commercial offerings on linux are over $100 in Whitcoulls. Thoughts -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mandrake 9.0 RC1
Mandrake 9.0 RC1 is out and I will be doing a full install of it today. I will let everyone know how it goes. My father has copies of it available for $25. That includes the 3 Install CD's as well as 1 ducumantation and help CD. This fee covers his bandwidth and CD costs. If you want a copy he can be reached at: 03-354-1223 here in Christchurch. Regards, Jason Greenwood
Re: Linus Torvald's OS teacher
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 10:54:15AM +1200, Carl Cerecke wrote: We have a visiting academic from the University of Helsinki. I asked him if he had met Linus. He said that Linus had taken his OS course in 1991, so if I had any complaints about Linux ... he'd bethe one whoose fault it is? you didn't ask him how he felt how linus applied what he elarned there? greetings, martin. -- looking for a job anywhere in the world, doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium /pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration. -- pike programmer open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unix(iaeste|bahai).or.at iaeste.tuwien.ac.at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bahrhttp://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Kylix 3
For those C/C++ Developers out there, especially those who HAVE to do M$ Windoze apps (for employers) BUT want to make them into Linux Apps the time is near that you will be able to prove that Linux is viable. Borland is releasing Kylix 3 which is a nice GUI RAD for BOTH Delphi and C++ The source is portable between Kylix 3 and Borland Delphi and C++ Builder 6. Three versions will be avaliable Enterprise... the expensive one with ALL you need + more - US$1999 Professional... missing some web and database things in above - US$249 Open Edition... My favorite.. Code generated must be GNU/GPL - FREE I will be downloading the Open Edition as soon as it is avaliable for download (Hopefully in the next couple of days) and will have a good play with it... and let you know how it goes. Mike. In the News: Borland Kylix 3 Will Bring Rapid C++ Development to Linux Developers Worldwide http://www.borland.com/news/press_releases/2002/07_23_02_Kylix3.html - Linux Rocks -
Re: Install Fest Post Mortem
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 02:05:26PM +1200, V K wrote: Hm. If you don't enable sound support in the kernel, you won't be able to load any sound module. sound support itself can be a module too. greetings, martin. -- looking for a job anywhere in the world, doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium /pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration. -- pike programmer open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unix(iaeste|bahai).or.at iaeste.tuwien.ac.at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bahrhttp://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: Intranet site
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 01:56:11PM +1200, Bjorn Nilsen wrote: I want to set up a Intranet web site here at work. The main features I need is: - Document publishing - Knowledge Base - File download area i wonder if open sTeam might fit: www.open-steam.org if you have any questions about it, the best would be to register as a user and post questions inside. (there are boards in the sTeam workroom) greetings, martin. -- looking for a job anywhere in the world, doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium /pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration. -- pike programmer open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unix(iaeste|bahai).or.at iaeste.tuwien.ac.at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).orgis.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bahrhttp://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/
Re: Newspaper Article
No i cut it out of the PAPEr and was goind to type it in!! :) Thanks, Ben Devine --=-- http://www.cocojumbo.tk --=-- --=-- http://www.apples.tk--=-- - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Newspaper Article Ben, do NOT try and cut the image off your screen. I've scanned it and put it on the site for those who want to read... http://www.linuxnut.co.nz, under news... I cut the newspaper artice from the PRESS but lost it(it was about the success of the installfest) Ohh well. READ TODAYS PAPER -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 3798966 Fax + 64 3 3798853 http://www.rout.co.nz
Linux beer
I like the look of this event.maybe it should come to NZ? (Maybe not a whole week though). I'll even do a special home brew :-) http://lwn.net/Articles/5540/ -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake 9.0 RC1
Oops, I misspoke, it's actually 9.0 Beta1, not RC1, sorry... Regards, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mandrake 9.0 RC1 is out and I will be doing a full install of it today. I will let everyone know how it goes. My father has copies of it available for $25. That includes the 3 Install CD's as well as 1 ducumantation and help CD. This fee covers his bandwidth and CD costs. If you want a copy he can be reached at: 03-354-1223 here in Christchurch. Regards, Jason Greenwood
