Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?

2002-09-10 Thread Adrian Stacey

Peter Cornelius wrote:
 
 Oxford Concise Dictionary, 1925 - which also mentions 'computers', but I'm
 not sure how they were programmed.  Some things were even before my time!)

Something to do with Kindly Cabbages I believe...




Re: Rute Manual

2002-09-10 Thread Christopher Sawtell

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:35, C Falconer wrote:
 Don't forget I can print you one at cost for $19.

 Thats bound in a spiraly plastic binding, with laminated covers.

 (and it is within the terms of the RUTE licence, because you are
 instituting the printing of the book.)

Thanks for your offer which I will decline with grace mainly because:
1) I can't read the small print of your 2-up print format very well, now that 
the eyes are not in the flush of youth anymore;

2) Personally, I find that while the strictly legal interpretation of the word 
initiate may allow commissioned printing, my personal feelings are that the 
author has put an enormous amount of effort into writing the tome, and he 
should be rewarded for those efforts. It's by far the best out there as far 
as I can tell. At $86nz the cost of the printed book is actually quite 
reasonable especially when compared with some of the hugely expensive but 
semi-literate and delightfully information-free works which are dumped on the 
market by sharp operators in the publishing business. What may be legal is 
not always the right thing to do from a moral standpoint.


 On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 12:13, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
  On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:24, Tim Wright wrote:
   Well, I'm back..and unfortunatly didn't find a bookstore that stocked
   it. However, their RRP (they could have ordered it) was US$40.
 
  So the Amazon cost of $86nz looks pretty good.
 
  btw, Has anybody had a chance to have a good look at this yet?
  A paraphrased comment from a newby was that it's Completely over my
  head, total waste of money. I've been at this Linux game for a fair
  while now so tend to disagree with the newbie's feelings on the subject,
  but I am wondering what other folks think? The reason for the question is
  that I would be grateful for the list's wisdom so that I can give these
  Avonmore students a wider opinion than just my own, which btw is Good
  reference and learning resource, possibly too deep too soon. It seems to
  go from computing sub-basics to pretty solid stuff in just a page or two.
 
  --
  Sincerely etc.,
  Christopher Sawtell

-- 
Sincerely etc.,
Christopher Sawtell



Re: Rute Manual

2002-09-10 Thread C Falconer

Fair enough - I prefer to consult it on screen personally.

On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 00:25, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:35, C Falconer wrote:
  Don't forget I can print you one at cost for $19.
 
  Thats bound in a spiraly plastic binding, with laminated covers.
 
  (and it is within the terms of the RUTE licence, because you are
  instituting the printing of the book.)
 
 Thanks for your offer which I will decline with grace mainly because:
 1) I can't read the small print of your 2-up print format very well, now that 
 the eyes are not in the flush of youth anymore;
 
 2) Personally, I find that while the strictly legal interpretation of the word 
 initiate may allow commissioned printing, my personal feelings are that the 
 author has put an enormous amount of effort into writing the tome, and he 
 should be rewarded for those efforts. It's by far the best out there as far 
 as I can tell. At $86nz the cost of the printed book is actually quite 
 reasonable especially when compared with some of the hugely expensive but 
 semi-literate and delightfully information-free works which are dumped on the 
 market by sharp operators in the publishing business. What may be legal is 
 not always the right thing to do from a moral standpoint.
 
 
  On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 12:13, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
   On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:24, Tim Wright wrote:
Well, I'm back..and unfortunatly didn't find a bookstore that stocked
it. However, their RRP (they could have ordered it) was US$40.
  
   So the Amazon cost of $86nz looks pretty good.
  
   btw, Has anybody had a chance to have a good look at this yet?
   A paraphrased comment from a newby was that it's Completely over my
   head, total waste of money. I've been at this Linux game for a fair
   while now so tend to disagree with the newbie's feelings on the subject,
   but I am wondering what other folks think? The reason for the question is
   that I would be grateful for the list's wisdom so that I can give these
   Avonmore students a wider opinion than just my own, which btw is Good
   reference and learning resource, possibly too deep too soon. It seems to
   go from computing sub-basics to pretty solid stuff in just a page or two.
  
   --
   Sincerely etc.,
   Christopher Sawtell
 
 -- 
 Sincerely etc.,
 Christopher Sawtell





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2002-09-10 Thread Michael Pearce

Hello all,

I have just installed RH7.3 on a PC and am having trouble with the sound card.

sndconfig detected it, installed it but the audio test was way sped up (Linus sounded 
like a bird chirping)

The i810 AC'97 audio is detected, but reports an audio rate of 16053 instead of the 
48000 that it is running at (i.e. reporting 1/3 actual rate).

Forcing KDE to use 16053 it works - but chip monked.

Does anyone have any ideas where to look / how to force the correct reporting etc

Note: the audio works fine under W2K


Mike.
-
 Linux Rocks 
-



IRC Chat Invitation

2002-09-10 Thread Paul

Hi all .. you can use any irc client to get to the #clug channel on the
irc.linux.com network - its actually hosted on slashnet.org

open the client then use /server irc.linux.com  ... upon connection use
/join #clug

see you there .. bring your tales of woe .. maybe someone will care
(oops!) uh might have an answer ...

Paul Swafford

(Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre)
(Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ)
(ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)




Re: IRC Chat Invitation

2002-09-10 Thread Nick Elder CLUG

At the risk of starting a client war, I would like to recomend xchat for any 
newbies to IRC or mIRC if you are still useing windows. (xchat has also been 
ported to windows so you could get used to it, ready for when you switch to 
linux (noticed I said when))  Bitchx is for the command line user I think.

see:  www.slashnet.org/connect.php   for a list of clients  (I know xchat is 
on Redhat 7.3 and on Mandrake 7.x/8.x install disks, and may have been 
installed by default)

One reason why I like xchat is because I can open a new server window and be 
on two networks at once.  That way I can be in #clug on the irc.linux.net 
network and in #nzlinux channel on the undernet network at the same time!

cheers,
Nick Elder

On Wednesday 11 September 2002 4:10 pm, Paul wrote:
 Hi all .. you can use any irc client to get to the #clug channel on the
 irc.linux.com network - its actually hosted on slashnet.org

 open the client then use /server irc.linux.com  ... upon connection use
 /join #clug

 see you there .. bring your tales of woe .. maybe someone will care
 (oops!) uh might have an answer ...

 Paul Swafford

 (Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre)
 (Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ)
 (ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)



Re: IRC Chat Invitation

2002-09-10 Thread Nick Elder CLUG


On Wednesday 11 September 2002 5:41 pm, Nick Elder CLUG wrote:
 At the risk of starting a client war, I would like to recomend xchat for
 any newbies to IRC or mIRC if you are still useing windows. (xchat has also
 been ported to windows so you could get used to it, ready for when you
 switch to linux (noticed I said when))  Bitchx is for the command line user
 I think.

 see:  www.slashnet.org/connect.php   for a list of clients  (I know xchat
 is on Redhat 7.3 and on Mandrake 7.x/8.x install disks, and may have been
 installed by default)

 One reason why I like xchat is because I can open a new server window and
 be on two networks at once.  That way I can be in #clug on the
 irc.linux.net network and in #nzlinux channel on the undernet network at

correction make that irc.linux.com not net! *
 the same time!

 cheers,
 Nick Elder

 On Wednesday 11 September 2002 4:10 pm, Paul wrote:
  Hi all .. you can use any irc client to get to the #clug channel on the
  irc.linux.com network - its actually hosted on slashnet.org
 
  open the client then use /server irc.linux.com  ... upon connection use
  /join #clug
 
  see you there .. bring your tales of woe .. maybe someone will care
  (oops!) uh might have an answer ...
 
  Paul Swafford
 
  (Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre)
  (Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ)
  (ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)