Re: [OT] Replace the style sheet... Alternat style but not...

2004-05-20 Thread Carey Evans
Michael JasonSmith wrote:
Good point. Mozilla does have a default stylesheet, located at 
	/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res/html.css
or similar location. However, changing this will change how *all* sites
look, not change how one specific site looks.
You're better off looking in $HOME/.phoenix/default/whatever.slt/chrome/ 
(or wherever) at userContent-example.css rather than changing 
res/html.css.  Paul included a link to a site with more information 
about this.

To apply CSS site by site, look at URIid:
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/uriid
Going back to the original question, you could install Squid or another 
HTTP proxy and configure it to redirect the request for the remote CSS 
file to a local web server.

--
Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and 
quoted.
-- Fred Allen


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Re: ./configure - what am I missing?

2004-05-20 Thread Dale Anderson
Auto*foo* packages are worth installing as a matter of course if you are going 
to be building packages from source ...more and more projects are moving to 
autofoo , saves hassles in the long run .(note nothing in this post 
mentioning wether autofoo is better (tm) ;-) ) 

Dale.

On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:11, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 14:58, Derek Smithies wrote:
  My reasoning was that if the above tools are not required, why check for
  their presence/absence ?
 
  However, Michael has asserted they are not required, so fine. Not
  required.

 Cheeky thing questioning me. Often configure checks for things whether
 they are needed or not. You may be installing a program that does
 require the auto-tools, but this is unlikely.


RE: vnc desktop...

2004-05-20 Thread Robert Fisher
Yep, krdc does work, but having reread your original post I see that I
misunderstood. You want to use your Windows box to view the others.
Sorry if I confused you.

On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 10:54, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote:
 My Gentoo box is inaccessible from my work but it is definitely in one of
 the menus.
 
 I think you can start it from a console with krdc but I have never tried
 that
 
 Regards, Robert
 Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 10:45 a.m.
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: vnc desktop...
 
 Kewl!
 
 That's exactly what I want...
 
 I guess I have to activate this on the concole do I?  Any 'gotyas' that I
 should know about before wasting an hour with it or should I expect it to be
 straight forward?
 
 
 
 Cheers Don
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:28 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: vnc desktop...
 
 
  Don wrote - Where do I find the win client for that?
 
  You already have VNC on the windows boxes haven't you?
 
  KDE's Remote Desktop Connection on your Linux box will connect to vnc
  service on any windows box.
 
  I usually connect to computername:0 then type the password
  and bingo, there
  is the user's desktop you wanted to see. It is, as stated by
  others, slower
  than rdesktop for example but it does what you want.
 
  As far as I know, it is standard in KDE.
 
  Regards, Robert
  Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.
 
   -Original Message-
  From:   Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent:   Thursday, 20 May 2004 10:23 a.m.
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: vnc desktop...
 
  Thanks Robert,
 
  Where do I find the win client for that?
 
  If I could find some old fassioned floppy disks around here
  I'd get busy and
  patition the disk in this machine and get RH9 on it as
  well  I finally
  found my pat magic cd last night (not the version 8 that I
  bought last year
  :( but I think version 4 will do - and before someone suggests some
  wonderful oss thing, I know how to drive pat magic and trust
  it to do the
  right thing:)
 
  The idea of going and buying some new floppies makes me shiver :)
 
  Cheers Don
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:13 AM
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: RE: vnc desktop...
  
  
   Read My Lips!
  
   KDE's Remote Desktop Connection will do what you want Don. I
   use it for the
   purpose you want - to see the remote user's desktop.
  
   When I do not want to see the remote user's desktop I use rdesktop
  
   Regards, Robert
   Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.
  
-Original Message-
   From: C. Falconer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 9:03 a.m.
   To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  RE: vnc desktop...
  
   I don't get it...
  
   What app could you be running Don that means you need to
  see the whole
   screen?
  
   For example - I can access email from sylpheed, evolution,
   squirrelmail all
   at the same time, because its on an imap server.  I run my
  IRC session
   inside screen, so that I can disconnect and reconnect from
   elsewhere if I
   want to.
  
   As previously stated - video sucks over VNC, so it can't be that.
  
   Or am I missing the point?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Sascha Beaumont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 1:30 a.m.
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: vnc desktop...
  
  
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
   Hash: SHA1
  
   Don Gould wrote:
   | When I use VNC on a win pc I get the desktop that the user sees.
   |
   | When I use VNC on a nix pc I don't get the desktop the
  user sees, I
   | get a different one
   |
   | I want to see what the current logged on user is seeing.
   |
   | What's the simplest way to do this?
   |
   | I want to be able to view it from my win98 laptop.
   |
   | Cheers Don
  
   Ah hah! I've got it.
  
   The problem is that to get it to do what you want to do, you
   either have to
   install something like x11vnc to export a live desktop. Or
   do it as I'll
   try to illustrate here whereby you never login to a live
   desktop, but
   you're always logging in to a vncsession, even when you login
   locally. This
   means that local video performance is pretty much going to
   suck but will
   provide the functionality that you're looking for.
  
   The most important thing for your .vncrc is that you better have a
   $vncStartup line in there, otherwise vnc will try to run your
   .xsession, and
   end up in a horrible loop (with my quick fix code anyway
   25 desktops and
   no cpu later I figured that out.)
  
   For the .xsession we first see if 

openoffice text combos

2004-05-20 Thread Paul William
Hi all,
I am trying to figure out the openoffice key combo, if there is one, to 
edit (not write over) text in a cell in a spreadsheet. I can't stand 
always having to use the mouse every time I want to edit text in a cell.

Thanks
Paul


Re: openoffice text combos

2004-05-20 Thread wrooney
 I am trying to figure out the openoffice key combo, if
 there is one, to  edit (not write over) text in a cell in
 a spreadsheet. I can't stand  always having to use the
 mouse every time I want to edit text in a cell.

Tried pressing the F2 key?

Wayne


Re: console via usb

2004-05-20 Thread Bart Hanson
On 18/05/2004, at 8:16 PM, Vik Olliver wrote:
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:52, Paul William wrote:
Hey all,
Anyone know if you can get a 'Serial' Console using usb instead of a
serial port? I don't really care about having a console at boot up but
it would be a bonus.
The only documentation I can find is about using the serial port.
USB Just doesn't work that way.
I have a USB - Serial adaptor that doesn't appear to have any 
electronics or smarts, just a redirection of the wires.
I too would like to know why USB can not function as a serial port 
controller. Anyone ?

This is my first question to the list, I hope I can help someone else 
sometime although I'm a Unix baby.

Bart Hanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: console via usb

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Day
-Original Message-
From:   Bart Hanson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:13 PM
To: CLUG
Subject:Re: console via usb


On 18/05/2004, at 8:16 PM, Vik Olliver wrote:

 On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:52, Paul William wrote:
 Hey all,

 Anyone know if you can get a 'Serial' Console using usb instead of a
 serial port? I don't really care about having a console at boot up but
 it would be a bonus.

 The only documentation I can find is about using the serial port.

 USB Just doesn't work that way.

I have a USB - Serial adaptor that doesn't appear to have any
electronics or smarts, just a redirection of the wires.
I too would like to know why USB can not function as a serial port
controller. Anyone ?

This is my first question to the list, I hope I can help someone else
sometime although I'm a Unix baby.
Real briefly - serial is a fairly dumb interface - USB is a smart interface 
- the 2 are 100% NOT compatible.
The adapter you have is commonly used with a mouse or similar peripheral 
that has a smart controller chip in it that is designed to handle USB or 
Serial. Be warned that it is possible to damage devices by incorrectly 
using the adapter you have - its designed for a specific purpose and 
converting USB to Serial, in the true sense, is not that purpose. This is 
the reason why DSE does not and will not sell such an adapter - people will 
blow things up.
Regards, Chris...

 



Re: console via usb

2004-05-20 Thread Dale Anderson
Since it appeared it got missed earlier ill repost my earlier mail.

cutTheres a few kernel patches floating around for firewire (which is VERY
neat
for debugging) ..

http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0203.3/0639.html for usb
/cut

Theres plenty of info via google etc re setting it up .

Firewire is nice for debugging due to the ability to access memory space
even if the kernel has completely dumped itself .

Dale.
- Original Message - 
From: Bart Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: console via usb



 On 18/05/2004, at 8:16 PM, Vik Olliver wrote:

  On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:52, Paul William wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  Anyone know if you can get a 'Serial' Console using usb instead of a
  serial port? I don't really care about having a console at boot up but
  it would be a bonus.
 
  The only documentation I can find is about using the serial port.
 
  USB Just doesn't work that way.

 I have a USB - Serial adaptor that doesn't appear to have any
 electronics or smarts, just a redirection of the wires.
 I too would like to know why USB can not function as a serial port
 controller. Anyone ?

 This is my first question to the list, I hope I can help someone else
 sometime although I'm a Unix baby.


 Bart Hanson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]






RE: openoffice text combos

2004-05-20 Thread C. Falconer
When in doubt - use MS Excel-type key commands... Most of them seem to work.

F2 for edit current cell.

-Original Message-
From: Paul William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 9:30 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: openoffice text combos


Hi all,

I am trying to figure out the openoffice key combo, if there is one, to 
edit (not write over) text in a cell in a spreadsheet. I can't stand 
always having to use the mouse every time I want to edit text in a cell.

Thanks

Paul



Iptables save Q

2004-05-20 Thread InfoHelp
Hi folks,
Is utilising iptables-save  iptables-restore the best/simplest way to 
automate the setting of a simple iptables ruleset?

Cheers
Rik
--
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RedHat Linux 9.0 - Gnome 2.2.0 - OpenOffice 1.0.2 - Mozilla Mail 1.2.1



MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread Nick Rout
Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end
of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious.
-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread C. Falconer
They're very definitely budget...  Right down there with jetway (shivver)

Depends what you want it for...  Thousands of hack machines have boards of
similar quality, and work mostly.

For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always
wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet.



-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m.
To: CLUG; NZLUG
Subject: MSI motherboards?


Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of
the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious.
-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread Rex Johnston
Nick Rout wrote:
Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end
of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious.
I have one, with a 2.4GHz P4.  The bios is a bit primitive, but it seems 
stable enough.

Cheers, Rex


Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread Matthew Gregan
At 2004-05-21T131705+1200, C. Falconer wrote:
 They're very definitely budget...  Right down there with jetway (shivver)

It really depends on the motherboard model.  Some of MSI's boards are
very nicely designed and high quality--look at, for example, their dual
Athlon MP boards.

 For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always
 wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet.

Well, many of them seem to use the same (low) quality parts:
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html

Cheers,
-mjg
-- 
Matthew Gregan |/
  /|[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread Rex Johnston
Matthew Gregan wrote:
Well, many of them seem to use the same (low) quality parts:
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html
Not low quality, faulty.  Electrolytic capacitors have a limited 
lifespan anyway, these moreso.

If anyone has a suddenly strangely behaving machine, it might pay to 
check those large capacitors on the motherboard for leaks.

Cheers, Rex


RE: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread David Upex
I'm running one currently with a Athlon processor, the original motherboard
failed within a month but it was replaced and I've had not problems for ~ 12
months now.

The guy at the shop put in down to getting too hot but I'm dubious about
that prognosis.

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m.
To: CLUG; NZLUG
Subject: MSI motherboards?


Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end
of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious.
--
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Binaries to the list (was Re: DOS emulator)

2004-05-20 Thread Don Gould
Actually I think Nick did drop in a small response that the attachment in
this case wasn't unreasonable.

Personally I agree in general that attaching files isn't good form.

I did actually spend some time to check that the file wasn't very big and
had it been more than ~50k I would have found some web space to host it then
included a link as one has to remember the capacity of the server that's
doing the mail distrubution as well.

In this case the file was 17k (thou if I'd thought about it, it should have
been 4k or less).

Cheers Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Jose Escanellas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Binaries to the list (was Re: DOS emulator)


 On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:41:58 +1200
 Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Nick Rout wrote:
   Don. don't post binaries to the list. put them on a
 webserver or ftp
   server and post a url
 
  C'mon Nick. His entire email, inc. PNG, was a piddly 28k. That is
  probably less bandwidth than what has already been wasted
 in the thread
  by people not trimming the quoted message when they are replying.

 I see no answer to Nick's point: is there really any rule
 about attached binary files on CLUG's email list?. As far as
 I can understand, file size or redundant quoted messages are
 different concepts to binary file type. Of course everybody
 knows that, but sometimes I wonder, struggled by my son, what
 are rules for. ¿Are they maybe like cooking recipes, that can
 be changed (as tradition change) while general taste is
 respected by the cooker? Changing sugar for salt, although
 while both being similar in color, weight and solubility,
 could be rather strange for table guests.

 Do what you want as long as you love, one's said. (But,
 before repeating that I should first hear me telling that to
 my teenager's daughter. Now she's only 2 years old, meanwhile
 I'm just a joker.)

 -juan





Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread Caleb Sawtell
On Fri, 21 May 2004 01:17, C. Falconer wrote:
 They're very definitely budget...  Right down there with jetway (shivver)

 Depends what you want it for...  Thousands of hack machines have boards of
 similar quality, and work mostly.

 For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always
 wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet.

I have an nvidia Asus mobo and it seams stable and has a nice lot of 
features :D






 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m.
 To: CLUG; NZLUG
 Subject: MSI motherboards?


 Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of
 the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious.


Re: MSI motherboards?

2004-05-20 Thread Nick Rout
Thanks Caleb and all the others who replied. The moment of madness
occasioned by seeing low prices advertised has evaporated. Of course its
always interesting to know what motherboards work well with linux, and
feel free to keep the conversation going.

Actually I should have mentioned in the initial email that the main info
I wanted was linux compatibility  :-)

N

On Fri, 21 May 2004 15:21:16 +
Caleb Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 21 May 2004 01:17, C. Falconer wrote:
  They're very definitely budget...  Right down there with jetway (shivver)
 
  Depends what you want it for...  Thousands of hack machines have boards of
  similar quality, and work mostly.
 
  For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always
  wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet.
 
 I have an nvidia Asus mobo and it seams stable and has a nice lot of 
 features :D
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m.
  To: CLUG; NZLUG
  Subject: MSI motherboards?
 
 
  Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of
  the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious.

-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Gentoo afterfest tips, Part two: Gentoolkit

2004-05-20 Thread Nick Rout
Well the Jolly Poacher has started a soundcheck downstairs from my
office and I cannot do any work so here goes another in the occasional
series...

You should emerge gentoolkit soon after your install. the gentoolkit
package contains many useful utilities to help manage gentoo, including
the following:

euse

gives information on USE flags, for example:

-i, --info - print USE flag information for the the given USE flags.
 -c, --conf - print USE flag setting in make.conf
 -d, --defaults - print USE flag setting in make.defaults
-e, --env  - print USE flag setting in environment variable USE
 -E, --enable   - enable use flag to make.conf e.g. -E mozilla puts
mozilla in make.conf. Mandatory argument.
 -D, --disable  - disable use flag from make.conf e.g. -D mozilla
 puts -mozilla in make.conf. Mandatory argument.

qpkg - query packages
=

$qpkg   ---lists all the packages in the portage tree
$qpkg -I --- lists all the packages installed in your system (uppercase
eye) (similar to rpm -qa)
$qpkg -l samba   -- lists all the files installed by samba (lowercase
ell) (viz rpm -ql samba)
$qpkg -f /bin/bash  --- which package installed the file /bin/bash (viz
rpm -qf /bin/bash)
$qpkg -l gentoolkit|grep bin gives a hint about what executables
gentoolkit has installed

 glsa-check
===
This program is intended to tell you about GLSA'a outstanding on your
system. GLSA=Gentoo Linux Security Announcement - usually these are security
fixes from some upstreampackage. The functionality is new and comes with
the following:

WARNING: This tool is completely new and not very tested, so it should
not be used on production systems. It's mainly a test tool for the new
GLSA release and distribution system, it's functionality will later be
merged into emerge and equery.

Run it from the command line to see the options

etcat
=

gives quite a lot of useful info re packages

-v - versions
example
$ etcat -v postfix
[ Results for search key   : postfix ]
[ Candidate applications found : 8 ]

 Only printing found installed programs.

*  net-mail/postfix :
[   ] 1.1.11.20020917 (0)
[   ] 1.1.11.20020917-r1 (0)
[   ] 2.0.11 (0)
[   ] 2.0.16-r1 (0)
[M~ ] 2.0.18 (0)
[  I] 2.0.19 (0)
[M~ ] 2.0.19-r1 (0)
[M~ ] 2.0.19-r2 (0)

This shows that there are 8 versions of postfix in portage, three of
them are masked (M) and 2.0.19 is installed (I)

-u - another tool to look at those important use flags

example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ etcat -u postfix
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend   : (U) Col 1 - Current USE flags]
[  : (I) Col 2 - Installed With USE flags ]

 U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-mail/postfix-2.0.19 ]
 + + ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6
 + + pam  : Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules)
 - - ldap : Adds LDAP support (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol)
 + + mysql: Adds mySQL support
 + + postgres : Adds support for the postgresql database
 + + ssl  : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer connections
 + + sasl : Adds support for the Simple Authentication and Security Layer
 + + maildir  : Adds support for maildir (~/.maildir) style mail spools
 - - mbox : Adds support for mbox (/var/spool/mail) style mail spools

This shows that there is support in postfix's ebuild to include or
exclude support for ipv6, pam, ldap, mysql, postgres, ssl, sasl, maildir
and mbox. the package was installed with support for all except ldap and mbox,
and if i reinstalled it now the result would be the same Ie thue use
flags that affect postfix have not changed since i installed it)

etcat -c --gives the changelog file, or at least the most recent parts
of it. This is the cjhangelog maintained by the gentoo packager. It
often tells you why a change has been made, eg why your system wants to
recompile samba for the third time this month. It maybe a bugfix for the
ppc architecture, it may be something important.

equery
==

this is the new fangled but I think unfinished replacement for a number
of the above tools.  for example:

equery depgraph postfix -- produces a looong list of all the
dependencies for postfix, right down to the brass tacks.

$ equery which postfix
/usr/portage/net-mail/postfix/postfix-2.0.19.ebuild

gives the full path to the ebuild file for the packagename

run equery without any parameters to get a fuller description of its
abilities.

Other tips
=

most of the stuff in gentoolkit is a work in progress and sometimes not
well documented. running the xommand without a parameter usually
prodeces some documentation. However watch this with qpkg, as the
no-parameter default is to list every package in portage - a tedious
process unless your system flies.

secondly some of the programs produce nice colour output, pretty to look
at but a pain if you are piping the results into another utility. that
can be solved with the -nc 

Installfest meeting

2004-05-20 Thread Zane Gilmore
We're having our first meeting for arranging the installfest in July.
If you want to help us out you can come to the meeting.
26 May 8pm
Room 101
Maths and Computer Science Building
University of Canterbury
Ilam Road.
Here's some stuff to help you find it:
A map of campus with the building highlighted
http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/Images/cmap.gif
Here's what it looks like at night with all it's lights on
http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/open/dept/dept.shtml

--
Zane Gilmore, Analyst / Programmer
Information Services Section, Information Technology Dept,
University of Canterbury - Te Whare Waananga o Waitaha
Private Bag 4800,
Christchurch New Zealand  Phone +64-3-364 2987 extn 7895


Re: MetaCLUG - email numbers

2004-05-20 Thread Zane Gilmore
IMO filtering the CLUG into a folder is mandatory.
Then sort by thread. This makes it easy to block delete discussions that 
don't interest you.
High volume lists like this can be make this almost necessary.

Especially when you're on four or more of those sort of lists.
C. Falconer wrote:
Yesterday I told my mail client to put CLUG mail into a separate folder.
This morning (12 hours later)
Inbox15 messages, (4 spam, 4 from other mailing lists and 7 from cron)
CLUG 48 messages.

--
Zane Gilmore, Analyst / Programmer
Information Services Section, Information Technology Dept,
University of Canterbury - Te Whare Waananga o Waitaha
Private Bag 4800,
Christchurch New Zealand  Phone +64-3-364 2987 extn 7895


Re: [OT] Security Guidance Kit

2004-05-20 Thread Zane Gilmore
Don Gould wrote:
If MS are going to be so kind as to help us find ways to:
* Keep NZ Post in profit
* Get more free beer and coffee coasters
* Drive up their costs to drive up their product retail price
Then I'm more than happy to order their CD rather than pay Xtra more money
than I have to to download more annoying security updates.
Cheers Don
Sorry but that's seems a little like taking advice from the US army 
about how to achieve world peace.
:-/


--
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Information Services Section, Information Technology Dept,
University of Canterbury - Te Whare Waananga o Waitaha
Private Bag 4800,
Christchurch New Zealand  Phone +64-3-364 2987 extn 7895


Re: [OT] Security Guidance Kit

2004-05-20 Thread Ken.McAllister

Don Gould wrote:
I'm more than happy to order their CD
I tried.  Repeatedly.  We cannot accept your order at this time... 
Please try again later.  An own-goal DOS attack?

Ken McAllister