Re: [OT] Replace the style sheet... Alternat style but not...
Michael JasonSmith wrote: Good point. Mozilla does have a default stylesheet, located at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/res/html.css or similar location. However, changing this will change how *all* sites look, not change how one specific site looks. You're better off looking in $HOME/.phoenix/default/whatever.slt/chrome/ (or wherever) at userContent-example.css rather than changing res/html.css. Paul included a link to a site with more information about this. To apply CSS site by site, look at URIid: http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/uriid Going back to the original question, you could install Squid or another HTTP proxy and configure it to redirect the request for the remote CSS file to a local web server. -- Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns; he should be drawn and quoted. -- Fred Allen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ./configure - what am I missing?
Auto*foo* packages are worth installing as a matter of course if you are going to be building packages from source ...more and more projects are moving to autofoo , saves hassles in the long run .(note nothing in this post mentioning wether autofoo is better (tm) ;-) ) Dale. On Thu, 20 May 2004 15:11, Michael JasonSmith wrote: On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 14:58, Derek Smithies wrote: My reasoning was that if the above tools are not required, why check for their presence/absence ? However, Michael has asserted they are not required, so fine. Not required. Cheeky thing questioning me. Often configure checks for things whether they are needed or not. You may be installing a program that does require the auto-tools, but this is unlikely.
RE: vnc desktop...
Yep, krdc does work, but having reread your original post I see that I misunderstood. You want to use your Windows box to view the others. Sorry if I confused you. On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 10:54, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: My Gentoo box is inaccessible from my work but it is definitely in one of the menus. I think you can start it from a console with krdc but I have never tried that Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 10:45 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: vnc desktop... Kewl! That's exactly what I want... I guess I have to activate this on the concole do I? Any 'gotyas' that I should know about before wasting an hour with it or should I expect it to be straight forward? Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:28 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: vnc desktop... Don wrote - Where do I find the win client for that? You already have VNC on the windows boxes haven't you? KDE's Remote Desktop Connection on your Linux box will connect to vnc service on any windows box. I usually connect to computername:0 then type the password and bingo, there is the user's desktop you wanted to see. It is, as stated by others, slower than rdesktop for example but it does what you want. As far as I know, it is standard in KDE. Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Don Gould [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 10:23 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: vnc desktop... Thanks Robert, Where do I find the win client for that? If I could find some old fassioned floppy disks around here I'd get busy and patition the disk in this machine and get RH9 on it as well I finally found my pat magic cd last night (not the version 8 that I bought last year :( but I think version 4 will do - and before someone suggests some wonderful oss thing, I know how to drive pat magic and trust it to do the right thing:) The idea of going and buying some new floppies makes me shiver :) Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:13 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: vnc desktop... Read My Lips! KDE's Remote Desktop Connection will do what you want Don. I use it for the purpose you want - to see the remote user's desktop. When I do not want to see the remote user's desktop I use rdesktop Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: C. Falconer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 9:03 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: vnc desktop... I don't get it... What app could you be running Don that means you need to see the whole screen? For example - I can access email from sylpheed, evolution, squirrelmail all at the same time, because its on an imap server. I run my IRC session inside screen, so that I can disconnect and reconnect from elsewhere if I want to. As previously stated - video sucks over VNC, so it can't be that. Or am I missing the point? -Original Message- From: Sascha Beaumont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 1:30 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: vnc desktop... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don Gould wrote: | When I use VNC on a win pc I get the desktop that the user sees. | | When I use VNC on a nix pc I don't get the desktop the user sees, I | get a different one | | I want to see what the current logged on user is seeing. | | What's the simplest way to do this? | | I want to be able to view it from my win98 laptop. | | Cheers Don Ah hah! I've got it. The problem is that to get it to do what you want to do, you either have to install something like x11vnc to export a live desktop. Or do it as I'll try to illustrate here whereby you never login to a live desktop, but you're always logging in to a vncsession, even when you login locally. This means that local video performance is pretty much going to suck but will provide the functionality that you're looking for. The most important thing for your .vncrc is that you better have a $vncStartup line in there, otherwise vnc will try to run your .xsession, and end up in a horrible loop (with my quick fix code anyway 25 desktops and no cpu later I figured that out.) For the .xsession we first see if
openoffice text combos
Hi all, I am trying to figure out the openoffice key combo, if there is one, to edit (not write over) text in a cell in a spreadsheet. I can't stand always having to use the mouse every time I want to edit text in a cell. Thanks Paul
Re: openoffice text combos
I am trying to figure out the openoffice key combo, if there is one, to edit (not write over) text in a cell in a spreadsheet. I can't stand always having to use the mouse every time I want to edit text in a cell. Tried pressing the F2 key? Wayne
Re: console via usb
On 18/05/2004, at 8:16 PM, Vik Olliver wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:52, Paul William wrote: Hey all, Anyone know if you can get a 'Serial' Console using usb instead of a serial port? I don't really care about having a console at boot up but it would be a bonus. The only documentation I can find is about using the serial port. USB Just doesn't work that way. I have a USB - Serial adaptor that doesn't appear to have any electronics or smarts, just a redirection of the wires. I too would like to know why USB can not function as a serial port controller. Anyone ? This is my first question to the list, I hope I can help someone else sometime although I'm a Unix baby. Bart Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: console via usb
-Original Message- From: Bart Hanson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:13 PM To: CLUG Subject:Re: console via usb On 18/05/2004, at 8:16 PM, Vik Olliver wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:52, Paul William wrote: Hey all, Anyone know if you can get a 'Serial' Console using usb instead of a serial port? I don't really care about having a console at boot up but it would be a bonus. The only documentation I can find is about using the serial port. USB Just doesn't work that way. I have a USB - Serial adaptor that doesn't appear to have any electronics or smarts, just a redirection of the wires. I too would like to know why USB can not function as a serial port controller. Anyone ? This is my first question to the list, I hope I can help someone else sometime although I'm a Unix baby. Real briefly - serial is a fairly dumb interface - USB is a smart interface - the 2 are 100% NOT compatible. The adapter you have is commonly used with a mouse or similar peripheral that has a smart controller chip in it that is designed to handle USB or Serial. Be warned that it is possible to damage devices by incorrectly using the adapter you have - its designed for a specific purpose and converting USB to Serial, in the true sense, is not that purpose. This is the reason why DSE does not and will not sell such an adapter - people will blow things up. Regards, Chris...
Re: console via usb
Since it appeared it got missed earlier ill repost my earlier mail. cutTheres a few kernel patches floating around for firewire (which is VERY neat for debugging) .. http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0203.3/0639.html for usb /cut Theres plenty of info via google etc re setting it up . Firewire is nice for debugging due to the ability to access memory space even if the kernel has completely dumped itself . Dale. - Original Message - From: Bart Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: Re: console via usb On 18/05/2004, at 8:16 PM, Vik Olliver wrote: On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:52, Paul William wrote: Hey all, Anyone know if you can get a 'Serial' Console using usb instead of a serial port? I don't really care about having a console at boot up but it would be a bonus. The only documentation I can find is about using the serial port. USB Just doesn't work that way. I have a USB - Serial adaptor that doesn't appear to have any electronics or smarts, just a redirection of the wires. I too would like to know why USB can not function as a serial port controller. Anyone ? This is my first question to the list, I hope I can help someone else sometime although I'm a Unix baby. Bart Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: openoffice text combos
When in doubt - use MS Excel-type key commands... Most of them seem to work. F2 for edit current cell. -Original Message- From: Paul William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2004 9:30 p.m. To: CLUG Subject: openoffice text combos Hi all, I am trying to figure out the openoffice key combo, if there is one, to edit (not write over) text in a cell in a spreadsheet. I can't stand always having to use the mouse every time I want to edit text in a cell. Thanks Paul
Iptables save Q
Hi folks, Is utilising iptables-save iptables-restore the best/simplest way to automate the setting of a simple iptables ruleset? Cheers Rik -- InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz/linux.html i686 2.4.20-8 RedHat Linux 9.0 - Gnome 2.2.0 - OpenOffice 1.0.2 - Mozilla Mail 1.2.1
MSI motherboards?
Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MSI motherboards?
They're very definitely budget... Right down there with jetway (shivver) Depends what you want it for... Thousands of hack machines have boards of similar quality, and work mostly. For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m. To: CLUG; NZLUG Subject: MSI motherboards? Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSI motherboards?
Nick Rout wrote: Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious. I have one, with a 2.4GHz P4. The bios is a bit primitive, but it seems stable enough. Cheers, Rex
Re: MSI motherboards?
At 2004-05-21T131705+1200, C. Falconer wrote: They're very definitely budget... Right down there with jetway (shivver) It really depends on the motherboard model. Some of MSI's boards are very nicely designed and high quality--look at, for example, their dual Athlon MP boards. For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet. Well, many of them seem to use the same (low) quality parts: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html Cheers, -mjg -- Matthew Gregan |/ /|[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSI motherboards?
Matthew Gregan wrote: Well, many of them seem to use the same (low) quality parts: http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html Not low quality, faulty. Electrolytic capacitors have a limited lifespan anyway, these moreso. If anyone has a suddenly strangely behaving machine, it might pay to check those large capacitors on the motherboard for leaks. Cheers, Rex
RE: MSI motherboards?
I'm running one currently with a Athlon processor, the original motherboard failed within a month but it was replaced and I've had not problems for ~ 12 months now. The guy at the shop put in down to getting too hot but I'm dubious about that prognosis. -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m. To: CLUG; NZLUG Subject: MSI motherboards? Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Binaries to the list (was Re: DOS emulator)
Actually I think Nick did drop in a small response that the attachment in this case wasn't unreasonable. Personally I agree in general that attaching files isn't good form. I did actually spend some time to check that the file wasn't very big and had it been more than ~50k I would have found some web space to host it then included a link as one has to remember the capacity of the server that's doing the mail distrubution as well. In this case the file was 17k (thou if I'd thought about it, it should have been 4k or less). Cheers Don -Original Message- From: Juan Jose Escanellas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Binaries to the list (was Re: DOS emulator) On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:41:58 +1200 Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Rout wrote: Don. don't post binaries to the list. put them on a webserver or ftp server and post a url C'mon Nick. His entire email, inc. PNG, was a piddly 28k. That is probably less bandwidth than what has already been wasted in the thread by people not trimming the quoted message when they are replying. I see no answer to Nick's point: is there really any rule about attached binary files on CLUG's email list?. As far as I can understand, file size or redundant quoted messages are different concepts to binary file type. Of course everybody knows that, but sometimes I wonder, struggled by my son, what are rules for. ¿Are they maybe like cooking recipes, that can be changed (as tradition change) while general taste is respected by the cooker? Changing sugar for salt, although while both being similar in color, weight and solubility, could be rather strange for table guests. Do what you want as long as you love, one's said. (But, before repeating that I should first hear me telling that to my teenager's daughter. Now she's only 2 years old, meanwhile I'm just a joker.) -juan
Re: MSI motherboards?
On Fri, 21 May 2004 01:17, C. Falconer wrote: They're very definitely budget... Right down there with jetway (shivver) Depends what you want it for... Thousands of hack machines have boards of similar quality, and work mostly. For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet. I have an nvidia Asus mobo and it seams stable and has a nice lot of features :D -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m. To: CLUG; NZLUG Subject: MSI motherboards? Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious.
Re: MSI motherboards?
Thanks Caleb and all the others who replied. The moment of madness occasioned by seeing low prices advertised has evaporated. Of course its always interesting to know what motherboards work well with linux, and feel free to keep the conversation going. Actually I should have mentioned in the initial email that the main info I wanted was linux compatibility :-) N On Fri, 21 May 2004 15:21:16 + Caleb Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2004 01:17, C. Falconer wrote: They're very definitely budget... Right down there with jetway (shivver) Depends what you want it for... Thousands of hack machines have boards of similar quality, and work mostly. For important machines I'd go Asus, Gigabyte, maybe intel, and I've always wanted to try nvidia based boards but haven't yet. I have an nvidia Asus mobo and it seams stable and has a nice lot of features :D -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 21 May 2004 1:11 p.m. To: CLUG; NZLUG Subject: MSI motherboards? Any news/views/reviews on these MB's? They seem to be at the cheaper end of the spectrum, and that makes me suspicious. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gentoo afterfest tips, Part two: Gentoolkit
Well the Jolly Poacher has started a soundcheck downstairs from my office and I cannot do any work so here goes another in the occasional series... You should emerge gentoolkit soon after your install. the gentoolkit package contains many useful utilities to help manage gentoo, including the following: euse gives information on USE flags, for example: -i, --info - print USE flag information for the the given USE flags. -c, --conf - print USE flag setting in make.conf -d, --defaults - print USE flag setting in make.defaults -e, --env - print USE flag setting in environment variable USE -E, --enable - enable use flag to make.conf e.g. -E mozilla puts mozilla in make.conf. Mandatory argument. -D, --disable - disable use flag from make.conf e.g. -D mozilla puts -mozilla in make.conf. Mandatory argument. qpkg - query packages = $qpkg ---lists all the packages in the portage tree $qpkg -I --- lists all the packages installed in your system (uppercase eye) (similar to rpm -qa) $qpkg -l samba -- lists all the files installed by samba (lowercase ell) (viz rpm -ql samba) $qpkg -f /bin/bash --- which package installed the file /bin/bash (viz rpm -qf /bin/bash) $qpkg -l gentoolkit|grep bin gives a hint about what executables gentoolkit has installed glsa-check === This program is intended to tell you about GLSA'a outstanding on your system. GLSA=Gentoo Linux Security Announcement - usually these are security fixes from some upstreampackage. The functionality is new and comes with the following: WARNING: This tool is completely new and not very tested, so it should not be used on production systems. It's mainly a test tool for the new GLSA release and distribution system, it's functionality will later be merged into emerge and equery. Run it from the command line to see the options etcat = gives quite a lot of useful info re packages -v - versions example $ etcat -v postfix [ Results for search key : postfix ] [ Candidate applications found : 8 ] Only printing found installed programs. * net-mail/postfix : [ ] 1.1.11.20020917 (0) [ ] 1.1.11.20020917-r1 (0) [ ] 2.0.11 (0) [ ] 2.0.16-r1 (0) [M~ ] 2.0.18 (0) [ I] 2.0.19 (0) [M~ ] 2.0.19-r1 (0) [M~ ] 2.0.19-r2 (0) This shows that there are 8 versions of postfix in portage, three of them are masked (M) and 2.0.19 is installed (I) -u - another tool to look at those important use flags example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ etcat -u postfix [ Colour Code : set unset ] [ Legend : (U) Col 1 - Current USE flags] [ : (I) Col 2 - Installed With USE flags ] U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-mail/postfix-2.0.19 ] + + ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6 + + pam : Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) - - ldap : Adds LDAP support (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol) + + mysql: Adds mySQL support + + postgres : Adds support for the postgresql database + + ssl : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer connections + + sasl : Adds support for the Simple Authentication and Security Layer + + maildir : Adds support for maildir (~/.maildir) style mail spools - - mbox : Adds support for mbox (/var/spool/mail) style mail spools This shows that there is support in postfix's ebuild to include or exclude support for ipv6, pam, ldap, mysql, postgres, ssl, sasl, maildir and mbox. the package was installed with support for all except ldap and mbox, and if i reinstalled it now the result would be the same Ie thue use flags that affect postfix have not changed since i installed it) etcat -c --gives the changelog file, or at least the most recent parts of it. This is the cjhangelog maintained by the gentoo packager. It often tells you why a change has been made, eg why your system wants to recompile samba for the third time this month. It maybe a bugfix for the ppc architecture, it may be something important. equery == this is the new fangled but I think unfinished replacement for a number of the above tools. for example: equery depgraph postfix -- produces a looong list of all the dependencies for postfix, right down to the brass tacks. $ equery which postfix /usr/portage/net-mail/postfix/postfix-2.0.19.ebuild gives the full path to the ebuild file for the packagename run equery without any parameters to get a fuller description of its abilities. Other tips = most of the stuff in gentoolkit is a work in progress and sometimes not well documented. running the xommand without a parameter usually prodeces some documentation. However watch this with qpkg, as the no-parameter default is to list every package in portage - a tedious process unless your system flies. secondly some of the programs produce nice colour output, pretty to look at but a pain if you are piping the results into another utility. that can be solved with the -nc
Installfest meeting
We're having our first meeting for arranging the installfest in July. If you want to help us out you can come to the meeting. 26 May 8pm Room 101 Maths and Computer Science Building University of Canterbury Ilam Road. Here's some stuff to help you find it: A map of campus with the building highlighted http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/Images/cmap.gif Here's what it looks like at night with all it's lights on http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/open/dept/dept.shtml -- Zane Gilmore, Analyst / Programmer Information Services Section, Information Technology Dept, University of Canterbury - Te Whare Waananga o Waitaha Private Bag 4800, Christchurch New Zealand Phone +64-3-364 2987 extn 7895
Re: MetaCLUG - email numbers
IMO filtering the CLUG into a folder is mandatory. Then sort by thread. This makes it easy to block delete discussions that don't interest you. High volume lists like this can be make this almost necessary. Especially when you're on four or more of those sort of lists. C. Falconer wrote: Yesterday I told my mail client to put CLUG mail into a separate folder. This morning (12 hours later) Inbox15 messages, (4 spam, 4 from other mailing lists and 7 from cron) CLUG 48 messages. -- Zane Gilmore, Analyst / Programmer Information Services Section, Information Technology Dept, University of Canterbury - Te Whare Waananga o Waitaha Private Bag 4800, Christchurch New Zealand Phone +64-3-364 2987 extn 7895
Re: [OT] Security Guidance Kit
Don Gould wrote: If MS are going to be so kind as to help us find ways to: * Keep NZ Post in profit * Get more free beer and coffee coasters * Drive up their costs to drive up their product retail price Then I'm more than happy to order their CD rather than pay Xtra more money than I have to to download more annoying security updates. Cheers Don Sorry but that's seems a little like taking advice from the US army about how to achieve world peace. :-/ -- Zane Gilmore, Analyst / Programmer Information Services Section, Information Technology Dept, University of Canterbury - Te Whare Waananga o Waitaha Private Bag 4800, Christchurch New Zealand Phone +64-3-364 2987 extn 7895
Re: [OT] Security Guidance Kit
Don Gould wrote: I'm more than happy to order their CD I tried. Repeatedly. We cannot accept your order at this time... Please try again later. An own-goal DOS attack? Ken McAllister