RE: xnview
Ubuntu needs you to put sudo in fromt of such commands. Then you'll be prompted for your password. -Original Message- From: Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 28 April 2006 5:47 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: xnview I have got up to this point on instaling xn view [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -i xnview_1.70-2_i386.deb dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ now what do i do??
Re: Current Gentoo NZ mirrors?
Hi all, I don't really know what you mean by Wellington loop, but I did a download just the other day from ftp://ftp.citylink.co.nz/gentoo/ HTH Edwin From: Carl Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/28 Fri PM 01:16:28 GMT+12:00 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Current Gentoo NZ mirrors? Hi, I have been using the http://gentoo.recoil.net.nz/gentoo/; gentoo mirror, which was mostly great, but has since died I have been thinking about setting one up here, but in the interim does anyone know of a local NZ gentoo mirror (thats NOT on the wellington loop...) ta Carl. -- Carl Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Current Gentoo NZ mirrors?
On Friday 28 April 2006 6:27 pm, Flores wrote: Hi all, I don't really know what you mean by Wellington loop, but I did a download just the other day from ftp://ftp.citylink.co.nz/gentoo/ I use http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/gentoo without problems.
Re: repositries
Thank you for the reply, however I do not have the knowledge to even open VI, where is it?? Then where do i find the thing i should be editing? This is a very steep learning curve that i am not sure i can follow Thanks for the help anyway On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 17:50 +1200, Andrew Errington wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:38, Bernard wrote: I have installed the repostries as per previous emails. All was working fine until i installed the extra ones I now get this error message E: Malformed line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. which is followed by E: Malformed line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) E: Unable to lock the list directory I also think the cd address is not right as that came up with an error message...my head is going in a twirl here. Hmm. Could be something wrong with line 44 in /etc/apt/sources.list Have you looked at the file? Open it up in your favourite editor[1] and take a look. The format of that line will be very similar to the others, and it might be easy for you to spot why it is different and then fix it. For example, it could be that the line has been split, so you need to join it to the previous one. It is likely that you cannot save the file unless you are root, or unless you have used the sudo command to invoke your editor. HTH, Andy -- [1] Your favourite editor is 'vi', but feel free to play around with some of the others.
free nix day
I see there is a freenix day on the 4th May in Sydenham. Although I have a system installed would it be a good place to get some hands on help as I feel I am over my head with some of the instructions I am getting and I need visual help as well. Any thoughts, mine is that Linux is not for new users. Bernard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006
Re: repositries
On Friday 28 April 2006 18:48, Bernard wrote: Thank you for the reply, however I do not have the knowledge to even open VI, where is it?? By suggesting that you use the vi editor, I suspect the he is uttering a list-joke (tm) at your expense. For a terminal editor, nano would be far less difficult for you to use. In effect it's Linux's notepad. Actually you would find one of the GUI ones much better choice with which to start out. The modern editors: kate, kwrite, gedit or indeed even xemacs are in many ways much better. ( It's recognised that cantankerous old codgers who started out with vi over thirty years ago, won't change so let's not start a flame-fest ) Needless to say you can start vi by typing the 2 letters v and then i followed by pressing the return key while in a terminal. Now immediately press the colon character followed by the F-1 key. Read the lesson to learn how to use the vi and vim editors. Then where do i find the thing i should be editing? sudo vi +44 /etc/apt/sources.list This is a very steep learning curve that i am not sure i can follow Buy or borrow a book about Linux and read it. There are literally hundreds of them on the market and in the public library. 'Linux in a Nutshell' is one of the better ones. I noticed a copy in the Linwood Library yesterday. It's an 'American Tome' type of book but it's pretty good none the less. There are also dozens of 'Linux Newbie' we sites out there. Just key the words 'Linux Newbie' into Google and take your pick. If you have difficulties with the written word, I'm sure that somebody on the list would be kind enough to install Text-to-Speech software for you. The computer will then be able to read the documentation to you. Perhaps you should consider a little personal tuition? Thanks for the help anyway On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 17:50 +1200, Andrew Errington wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:38, Bernard wrote: I have installed the repostries as per previous emails. All was working fine until i installed the extra ones I now get this error message E: Malformed line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) E: The list of sources could not be read. Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. which is followed by E: Malformed line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist) E: Unable to lock the list directory I also think the cd address is not right as that came up with an error message...my head is going in a twirl here. Hmm. Could be something wrong with line 44 in /etc/apt/sources.list Have you looked at the file? Open it up in your favourite editor[1] and take a look. The format of that line will be very similar to the others, and it might be easy for you to spot why it is different and then fix it. For example, it could be that the line has been split, so you need to join it to the previous one. It is likely that you cannot save the file unless you are root, or unless you have used the sudo command to invoke your editor. HTH, Andy -- [1] Your favourite editor is 'vi', but feel free to play around with some of the others. -- CS
Re: free nix day
On Friday 28 April 2006 19:10, Bernard wrote: I see there is a freenix day on the 4th May in Sydenham. Although I have a system installed would it be a good place to get some hands on help as I feel I am over my head with some of the instructions I am getting and I need visual help as well. Any thoughts, mine is that Linux is not for new users. I'd agree that installing and setting up Linux is not for rank beginners who have never used a computer before. However I honestly think that once that been done, KDE is a far easier working environment to learn than Windows and possibly even MacOS X. The huge advantage of MacOS X is that it comes pre-installed and pre-configured and just works as it's supposed to right from the moment you open the box. Does anybody else on the list need Linux sub-basic lessons? Contact me off-list if you prefer. -- CS
Re: repositries
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:45, you wrote: On Friday 28 April 2006 18:48, Bernard wrote: Thank you for the reply, however I do not have the knowledge to even open VI, where is it?? By suggesting that you use the vi editor, I suspect the he is uttering a list-joke (tm) at your expense. Indeed. Quelle amusant! A
Re: free nix day
Yes that's fine Bernard. Your adsl connect is always going to be a problem to set up away from home tho. Bernard wrote: I see there is a freenix day on the 4th May in Sydenham. Although I have a system installed would it be a good place to get some hands on help as I feel I am over my head with some of the instructions I am getting and I need visual help as well. Any thoughts, mine is that Linux is not for new users. Bernard
RE: free nix day
I was hoping that as I am using a router now that if a phone line was there it should be no hassle. -Original Message- From: Rik Tindall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:40 PM To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: free nix day Yes that's fine Bernard. Your adsl connect is always going to be a problem to set up away from home tho. Bernard wrote: I see there is a freenix day on the 4th May in Sydenham. Although I have a system installed would it be a good place to get some hands on help as I feel I am over my head with some of the instructions I am getting and I need visual help as well. Any thoughts, mine is that Linux is not for new users. Bernard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006
OpenOffice problems
Here I am, expounding the virtues of OpenOffice on Linux, while having a few problems with it. There are two things I want to turn off that someone turned on in a Microsoft document, and I can't figure it out. Can anyone help me with: 1. Turning off the display of historical modifications. and 2. Removing a URL link from text without destroying the fonts etc. Vik :v)
Re: OpenOffice problems
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:59 +1200, Vik Olliver wrote: 1. Turning off the display of historical modifications. Got that one sorted now. Duh. and 2. Removing a URL link from text without destroying the fonts etc. Still working on this one. Vik :v)
Re: free nix day
Bernard wrote: I was hoping that as I am using a router now that if a phone line was there it should be no hassle. Great. Yes, there's phone, which needs to be shared. Now I'll write notice for what the meeting's about. CU then, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on virus-free Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.10 free OS, 2.6.12-9-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.12.1 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.9.129, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.8 graphics, gedit 2.12.1 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Freenix Workshop Thurs 4/5/6
Hi folks, This Thursday, May 4th @Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Christchurch, starting 7.30pm, is an Ubuntu/FreeBSD explore, with a wireless focus. The format is to answer any questions people have for using Ubuntu, explain its maintenance, use dialup to go online, and share that connection wirelessly. I.E. the wireless network setup tools will be reviewed. We'll link up any wireless-enabled systems people bring along thus (Don? Chris? ...?) After our break we will compare FreeBSD 6.0 for the same function, and hear from Dale DuRose why we should want to. Reading handouts will be supplied. Repair install help commences with the tea break. All welcome, donations cover costs ($2 minimum please). Update - Green Room: The Wednesdays, 10-2pm Free Linux Tuition at 16 Bedford Row Chch, is advertised through the Green Diary e-mailout each week, to all Green Party members. Interest is strong, with the small space open four, and full two week's running now. Because of the limited space and volunteer assistance involved so far, this workshop has to be clearly delimited in its aims: Lesson 1 (for me): _everyone_ showing up for help so far has read I'll teach you about Linux for free as I'll fix your Linux box for free. That's fine, because we're all learning from it ;-) Lesson 2: we have to stick to what's on offer - GNOME on Ubuntu. In other words, due to the limits of volunteer expertise and room to put more (so far..), the KDE user equipment that arrives will get bounced back to the LUG. Sorry, but that's as much as we can do without expansion of this program (which amounts to getting politically active on behalf of our favourite operating system: Linux? - You're worth it). See ya, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on virus-free Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.10 free OS, 2.6.12-9-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.12.1 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.9.129, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.8 graphics, gedit 2.12.1 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Ubuntu sound problems
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 11:59 +1200, Stephen Irons wrote: It is not clear to me how various things work together (or not) in linux to make sound work. There seem to be too many layers and alternatives: alsa, oss, esd, jack? OSS is a known interface between application software and physical sound cards and includes OSS kernel drivers for each sound card. ALSA is similar and has mostly made OSS obsolete. ESD is another interface but one that sits on top of either OSS or ALSA and mixes audio from multiple applications (OSS and ALSA support only one application using the sound card at once i think). what's jack? I did notice from /proc/interrupts that interrupt 11 is shared between the soundcard and the PCI-based USB card, and the number of interrupt events for interrupt 11 is zero. This suggests some sort of conflict between the sound card and the USB card at the interrupt level. 4. I thought that PCI was meant to have solved interrupt sharing? I have the BIOS set to non-PnP operating system, with resources allocated automatically. 5. Do I need to change this? did you change this and did it make any difference? - neil
Re: Ubuntu sound problems
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 13:21:22 +1200 Neil Stockbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 11:59 +1200, Stephen Irons wrote: It is not clear to me how various things work together (or not) in linux to make sound work. There seem to be too many layers and alternatives: alsa, oss, esd, jack? OSS is a known interface between application software and physical sound cards and includes OSS kernel drivers for each sound card. ALSA is similar and has mostly made OSS obsolete. ESD is another interface but one that sits on top of either OSS or ALSA and mixes audio from multiple applications (OSS and ALSA support only one application using the sound card at once i think). no longer true of alsa - dmix allows mixing of different sources. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix has alot of info. Also note that although OSS is deprecated, and alsa is now integrated with the kernel, there are plenty of apps that want to output to oss drivers. Those drivers make a device at /dev/dsp (or similar) that you can output to. Because so many apps depend on the oss driver being present, alsa has oss emulation included. Here is a typical list of modules installed on a modern (2.6) kernel with oss emulation included: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/media/audio/bbcjazz $ lsmod|grep snd snd_pcm_oss47392 0 snd_mixer_oss 17024 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss32128 0 snd_seq_midi_event 6400 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq49488 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_via82xx22688 0 snd_ac97_codec 78392 1 snd_via82xx snd_pcm82120 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec snd_timer 21124 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 7620 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 6144 1 snd_via82xx snd_rawmidi20512 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 6988 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd46692 11 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device soundcore 7456 1 snd the OSS stuff is self evident. Anyway - back to why don't I have sound first check what modules are loaded - lsmod|grep snd next check the device permissions on /dev/dsp. It will probably be owned by root and a group like audio or media - make sure that the user is in the correct group. DO NOT change the ownership, it will revert on the next boot! Put yourself into that group, log out. log in. (group changes take effect from the next login - apain when you are in X) what's jack? Jack Audio Connect Kit Pro level low latency audio system. If you want to set up a linux music making machine (synth, drum machine, midi etc etc ) you need jack. or so they tell me! I did notice from /proc/interrupts that interrupt 11 is shared between the soundcard and the PCI-based USB card, and the number of interrupt events for interrupt 11 is zero. This suggests some sort of conflict between the sound card and the USB card at the interrupt level. 4. I thought that PCI was meant to have solved interrupt sharing? I have the BIOS set to non-PnP operating system, with resources allocated automatically. 5. Do I need to change this? did you change this and did it make any difference? - neil
