Live CDs

2007-09-15 Thread Aidan Gauland
After seeing Damn Small Linux at Software Freedom Day, I am going to  
try to modify the live CD adapting this how-to...

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
...to add some programs like Emacs, and parted, and maybe some other  
minor alterations.  Unless someone can recommend an easier way.  If  
it works, I will post what I did differently.


Aidan


Re: Live CDs

2007-09-15 Thread Kerry Mayes
I'm not much of a fan of Live CDs anymore, but when I was,  I found
Slax to be a remarkably easy system for creating custom Live CDs.
Everything is in modules you just add them to the right subdirectory
on the cd and they are loaded.  There's a nice software system for
creating live cds, though it's Windoze based! I think it's called
myslax creator.

Kerry.

On 15/09/2007, Aidan Gauland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After seeing Damn Small Linux at Software Freedom Day, I am going to
 try to modify the live CD adapting this how-to...
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
 ...to add some programs like Emacs, and parted, and maybe some other
 minor alterations.  Unless someone can recommend an easier way.  If
 it works, I will post what I did differently.

 Aidan



Re: Live CDs

2007-09-15 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi,
 Live CDs are literally taking off. There are gazillions of different ones 
to use. 
  Some are focussed on being incredibly small, 2..100mb.
  fitting the maximum amount into 700mb
  being a demonstration of a bug distro (fedora live say)

They all vary.
Some are brilliant at hardware detection, others are mediocre.

Bewarned - the instructions on remastering are often terse, and neglect 
points that are kinda crucial.

I am of the view it is easier to take a cut down distro and add things to 
it, which is safer than taking stuff of (to make room for your additions).

You see, if you take stuff off, what gets broken?

A colleague suggested basing things on fedora 7, and using the make live 
cd tool,  as the ideal approach. He said it got him to his desired end 
goal the quickest.
 My thinking at the moment is to use puppy and add to it, via puppy 
unleashed,  and see how that goes. 

I have lots of dud CDs so far, and expect to collect a few more..

However, puppy will let you remaster to a USB memory stick, and that might 
save some angst over CDs going wrong.


Derek.
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Kerry Mayes wrote:

 I'm not much of a fan of Live CDs anymore, but when I was,  I found
 Slax to be a remarkably easy system for creating custom Live CDs.
 Everything is in modules you just add them to the right subdirectory
 on the cd and they are loaded.  There's a nice software system for
 creating live cds, though it's Windoze based! I think it's called
 myslax creator.
 
 Kerry.
 
 On 15/09/2007, Aidan Gauland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  After seeing Damn Small Linux at Software Freedom Day, I am going to
  try to modify the live CD adapting this how-to...
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
  ...to add some programs like Emacs, and parted, and maybe some other
  minor alterations.  Unless someone can recommend an easier way.  If
  it works, I will post what I did differently.
 
  Aidan
 
 

-- 
Derek Smithies Ph.D.
IndraNet Technologies Ltd.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ph +64 3 365 6485
Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/


Re: Live CDs

2007-09-15 Thread Aidan Gauland
Graeme (sorry if I misspelled your name) at the SFD told me about  
that, but I came from the Mac cult and don't have Windows.  But I'll  
keep Slax in mind as plan C.


I'm doing this for the learning experience, and because I can.  Isn't  
why the Linux kernel was created originally?  But I will try to  
thoroughly test my changes to make sure I didn't break anything.


On 15/09/2007, at 7:42 PM, Kerry Mayes wrote:


I'm not much of a fan of Live CDs anymore, but when I was,  I found
Slax to be a remarkably easy system for creating custom Live CDs.
Everything is in modules you just add them to the right subdirectory
on the cd and they are loaded.  There's a nice software system for
creating live cds, though it's Windoze based! I think it's called
myslax creator.

Kerry.

On 15/09/2007, Aidan Gauland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

After seeing Damn Small Linux at Software Freedom Day, I am going to
try to modify the live CD adapting this how-to...
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
...to add some programs like Emacs, and parted, and maybe some other
minor alterations.  Unless someone can recommend an easier way.  If
it works, I will post what I did differently.

Aidan



Re: Live CDs

2007-09-15 Thread Graeme Kiyoto-Ward

Hi

Yes, you spelled my name correctly.

I would look for topics on remastering knoppix or specifically on 
remastering damn small.


Here are some on remastering damn small that I could find:
http://www.linuxforums.org/desktop/remastering_dsl:_a_short_howto_with_a_long_preamble.html

http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=12;t=7177

Best of luck

Regards

Graeme Kiyoto-Ward

Aidan Gauland wrote:
Graeme (sorry if I misspelled your name) at the SFD told me about 
that, but I came from the Mac cult and don't have Windows.  But I'll 
keep Slax in mind as plan C.


I'm doing this for the learning experience, and because I can.  Isn't 
why the Linux kernel was created originally?  But I will try to 
thoroughly test my changes to make sure I didn't break anything.


On 15/09/2007, at 7:42 PM, Kerry Mayes wrote:


I'm not much of a fan of Live CDs anymore, but when I was,  I found
Slax to be a remarkably easy system for creating custom Live CDs.
Everything is in modules you just add them to the right subdirectory
on the cd and they are loaded.  There's a nice software system for
creating live cds, though it's Windoze based! I think it's called
myslax creator.

Kerry.

On 15/09/2007, Aidan Gauland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

After seeing Damn Small Linux at Software Freedom Day, I am going to
try to modify the live CD adapting this how-to...
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
...to add some programs like Emacs, and parted, and maybe some other
minor alterations.  Unless someone can recommend an easier way.  If
it works, I will post what I did differently.

Aidan





Re: Live CDs

2007-09-15 Thread Christopher Sawtell
I would look for topics on remastering knoppix or specifically on
 remastering damn small.

 Here are some on remastering damn small that I could find:
 http://www.linuxforums.org/desktop/remastering_dsl:_a_short_howto_with_a_long_preamble.html

 http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=12;t=7177

There are probably dozens of LiveCD builders.
In order for you to get an alternative point of view here's another
URL for you to peruse:-

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/catalyst/

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: online storage

2007-09-15 Thread Carl Cerecke
gmail?

On 14/09/2007, Josh James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 has any one got or knows a good online storage service that works with an
 ubuntu app and can be encrypted



Re: online storage

2007-09-15 Thread Jim Cheetham
Against terms and conditions :-) Gmail is for email.
Amazon S3 is pretty good, get a user-space filesystem and rsync into
it. Of course encrypting objects before sending them, and being
efficient in bandwidth usage are generally mutually exclusive ...

On 16/09/2007, Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 gmail?

 On 14/09/2007, Josh James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  has any one got or knows a good online storage service that works with an
  ubuntu app and can be encrypted
 




Re: Rebuilding debian boxes from package list...

2007-09-15 Thread Chris Hellyar
Hi-ho,

I sorta documented it, here's the overview:

The background to the 'issue' is that the physical machine had a custom
kernel for some odd hardware, that gave me poor/weird results using
ghost, p2v, and normal tarball backup/restore type techniques.

Steps, sorta:

- Note down list functionality I want to move from the physical to the
virtual.  (In my case it was apache, mysql, php, cronjobs, rsyncd config
and a scripts directory)
- apt-get upgrade on the physical machine to make sure it is current and
working.
- Make tarball of data, plus /etc, /root, /var, onto a network server.
- create selection list for dpkg (dpkg --get-selections  blah.txt)
- build new virtual machine using etch netinst CD, with no roles or
packages (Very basic install) and get it on the network.
- copy the /etc/apt/sources.lst from the physical to the virtual
- shut off the physical.
- apt-get update on the virtual
- dpkg --set-selections  blah.tt on virtual.
- apt-get dselect-upgrade on the virtual, which 'makes it the same' from
a package point of view.
- reboot the virtual, check that it's working, ish.
- mount network drive with tarball in it on the new machine.
- selectively restore the stuff I needed for the functionality.
  In my case:
 /var/spool/cron
 /var/lib/mysql
 /etc/mysql/debian.cnf (for maint. user password setting)
 /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
 /var/www
 /root/cronjobs
 /etc/network/interfaces (Fixed IP config)
 /etc/hostname
 /etc/rsyncd.conf
 /etc/default/rsync
- Reboot and check things work.
- snapshot the virtual, and backup the vmdk's to DR vmware server.
- re-deloy the old physical hardware as a doorstop. :-).
 
This has process has had some real advantages for me over a complete
restore/move, as the box(es) concerned had quite a bit of development
stuff on them, which has effectively been removed by this 'cleanup'
install, and all the source-code built weird stuff is now gone.

Whole process takes about 15 minutes, as we have an on-site mirror of
the Debian archive.

This has highlighted an issue with DR of 2.6.X kernel machines using
tarballs, which is effectively what I was trying to do.  Restore a
machine on different hardware.

Tarballs have always worked under 2.4.X for me.  I'll be on the hunt for
a good generic DR process once my current issues are out of the way.
(We have legislative requirements for simple/demonstrable DR)

Other things that broke it with a move/restore would be down to kernel
modules, fstab differences, initramfs differences, boot block getting
munged, /lib/modules mess from install/restore of similar/same version
kernels, and the mess the source physical was in from being a
development platform that became production over time without a rebuild.
All these problems went away with the rebuild.

And for what it's worth, the current vmware converter works really well
for Windows 2003 servers, but our LCS server at work and one other
refused to convert successfully to virtual using it, so we had to
rebuild them as well...

Cheers, Me.
(No warranty is either expressed or implied in that lot! :-) ).


On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 10:43 +1200, Kerry Mayes wrote:
 I don't suppose you could document what you did?
 
 I carefully downloaded vmware converter and spent half an hour trying
 to get it to work on an Ubuntu physical machine before realising that
 it only works on windows machines!