Re: UPDATE: Re: 2Clix sues Whirlpool founder
See:- http://tinyurl.com/2rc6pm Which demonstrates, yet again that 'Messing with the Community' is not a good idea. On 9/17/07, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting turn Both the UK and AU web sites of 2Clix have gone off line. A traceroute shows that traffic would have been passing through a network that is owned by one of WP's biggest supporters. I am now left wondering if said ISP had anything to do with taking down the 2Clix web site. I find this very interesting because this is a case of a really well meaning community guy being targeted by an ungrateful company. If you're interested in the power of the internet community, then this is a very interesting case to follow. Cheers Don -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: UPDATE: Re: 2Clix sues Whirlpool founder
Christopher Sawtell wrote: See:- http://tinyurl.com/2rc6pm Which demonstrates, yet again that 'Messing with the Community' is not a good idea. Yes, http://apcmag.com/7221/whirlpools_off_the_hook_but_the_big_issue_remains_unsolved has some very interesting things to say on the subject. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=822869p=32#r625 This case also demonstrated very clearly how the community will react. I had an extremely interesting discussion today with a class about the whole 2Clix situation. They were of the view that the 2Clix crew should give up while they're ahead (if that's what you can call their current place) and take up taxi driving. I am left wondering, as I am sure many of you are as well, just how much impact this will have in 2Clix business. I suspect that the problems have only just started. Their lawyers don't seem to understand how quickly the community can move. Cheers Don
Re: Image files of Linux and Unix on St. Albans Neighbourhood Resource Centre computers.
Hi I have the following I can contribute: Edubuntu 7.04 Games Knoppix 4.0 (DVD) PC-BSD 1.3 (discs 1 2) NetBSD Live (i386) Slackware 12.0 (discs 1 - 6) NetBSD 3.0 + packages (this is the i386 disk that contains the bas OS (200MB) + some packages NetBSD 3.1 (amd64) Let me know what you want from that lot. I may have some other images lying around. I can send these as disks which means some dd'ing if you are storing them on harddrive. Regards Graeme Kiyoto-Ward Christopher Sawtell wrote: Greetings CLUGgers, The recent thread which bemoaned the absence of a Definiitve Source for Linux in Christchurch has triggered Wesley and I to set up an archive of Linux Distros. In conjuction with the St. Albans Neighbourhood Resource Centre - That's the place where we meet each month - we have created a goodly, but by no means complete, collection of Linux and Unix disks. The Centre is open for business between 11:00am and 3:00pm every weekday and 1:00pm till 3:00 pm. on Saturdays. Go here for the list of Distros:- http://berty.dyndns.org/NN_Images.txt and here for a Street map:- http://tinyurl.com/ytbmb4 This is neither a download mirror, nor a Linux by post service - You have to turn up in person with loose change in your pocket to buy a CD/DVD. Alternatively a USB device with a Windows compatible file-system and sufficient free space is also possible. As this is all new to the Centre, I suggest a slow start. They won't be able to service dozens of CLUGgers turning up at lunchtime on Monday. It might be best to wait until Tuesday when Wesley is working there. Donations of other distributions to add to the collection would be welcome.
Re: Image files of Linux and Unix on St. Albans Neighbourhood Resource Centre computers.
Thank you very much indeed. Your offer is very gratefully accepted. Geographically where are you? What's the best method, as far as you are concerned, to move the data? Thanks again, and is there anything on the list you would like in return? On 9/21/07, Graeme Kiyoto-Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have the following I can contribute: Edubuntu 7.04 Games Knoppix 4.0 (DVD) PC-BSD 1.3 (discs 1 2) NetBSD Live (i386) Slackware 12.0 (discs 1 - 6) NetBSD 3.0 + packages (this is the i386 disk that contains the bas OS (200MB) + some packages NetBSD 3.1 (amd64) Let me know what you want from that lot. I may have some other images lying around. I can send these as disks which means some dd'ing if you are storing them on harddrive. Regards Graeme Kiyoto-Ward Christopher Sawtell wrote: Greetings CLUGgers, The recent thread which bemoaned the absence of a Definiitve Source for Linux in Christchurch has triggered Wesley and I to set up an archive of Linux Distros. In conjuction with the St. Albans Neighbourhood Resource Centre - That's the place where we meet each month - we have created a goodly, but by no means complete, collection of Linux and Unix disks. The Centre is open for business between 11:00am and 3:00pm every weekday and 1:00pm till 3:00 pm. on Saturdays. Go here for the list of Distros:- http://berty.dyndns.org/NN_Images.txt and here for a Street map:- http://tinyurl.com/ytbmb4 This is neither a download mirror, nor a Linux by post service - You have to turn up in person with loose change in your pocket to buy a CD/DVD. Alternatively a USB device with a Windows compatible file-system and sufficient free space is also possible. As this is all new to the Centre, I suggest a slow start. They won't be able to service dozens of CLUGgers turning up at lunchtime on Monday. It might be best to wait until Tuesday when Wesley is working there. Donations of other distributions to add to the collection would be welcome. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: Image files of Linux and Unix on St. Albans Neighbourhood Resource Centre computers.
On Friday 21 September 2007 8:11 am, Graeme Kiyoto-Ward wrote: Hi I have the following I can contribute: Graeme I think your clock must be out.
Re: FreeNAS / iSCSI
Replying to myself. :-). The problem with this was something to do with using the live-boot install. Changing to using Freenas booting of a flash disk fixed it, on the same test machine. Odd, but there you go. Now going to try it out with 3 1Gb/s NIC's, crossover cables and three clients vmware clients. (Cheap SAN testing environment) On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 00:55 +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote: I've got it working fine as a samba or nfs NAS box, but when I set it up as an iSCSI machine and try to connect to it with the generic MS initiator it brings the drives into the drive management tool in windows, but they have a nasty big red minus sign on them, and I can't access/format them... Close, but no banana.
Good article for people who like Innovation in Software to read
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070919214307459 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070919214307459 Cheers, Brat.
openoffice 2.3 installation
Hi, I have the OpenOffice 2.3 deb download but am not sure how to do the install - this is a Mepis 6.5 installation. I have all the deb files extracted in a folder along with the desktop integration file. On a SuSE box yesterday the equivalent was executing rpm -Uvh *.rpm. Cheers, Roger
Re: openoffice 2.3 installation
I converted all the rpms to .debs, but them all into a separate directory and did a dpkg -i * IIRC, I had to force it, as one of the packages conflicted. The end result works fine, but I don't really notice a lot of difference from 2.2 - I do hasten to add that I'm a very light OOo user.. Steve On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:16:06 +1200 Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have the OpenOffice 2.3 deb download but am not sure how to do the install - this is a Mepis 6.5 installation. I have all the deb files extracted in a folder along with the desktop integration file. On a SuSE box yesterday the equivalent was executing rpm -Uvh *.rpm. Cheers, Roger pgpbfAXxcQwbC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: openoffice 2.3 installation
Thanks. Looks like I'm out of luck at this stage as I get: package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) (with the file that was automatically offered up by their server). And the download chooser tells me there isn't a 64deb english file. Yet... Recently my 2.2 installation decided that it would take anything between 30 seconds and 3 minutes to lauch a file which isn't good for my productivity or patience, and I was looking to the release of 2.3 as an opportunity to rectify that. I think I'll just try a reinstall of 2.2 and see if that sorts it. Cheers, Roger Steve Holdoway wrote: I converted all the rpms to .debs, but them all into a separate directory and did a dpkg -i * IIRC, I had to force it, as one of the packages conflicted. The end result works fine, but I don't really notice a lot of difference from 2.2 - I do hasten to add that I'm a very light OOo user.. Steve On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:16:06 +1200 Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have the OpenOffice 2.3 deb download but am not sure how to do the install - this is a Mepis 6.5 installation. I have all the deb files extracted in a folder along with the desktop integration file. On a SuSE box yesterday the equivalent was executing rpm -Uvh *.rpm. Cheers, Roger
Re: Good article for people who like Innovation in Software to read
If you have traffic volume to burn it's well worth listening to the original sound recording. http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Samba-FSFE.ogg ( Approx 7.2 Megs ) or http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Samba-FSFE.mp3 On 9/21/07, Brett Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070919214307459 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070919214307459 Cheers, Brat. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: openoffice 2.3 installation
On Friday 21 September 2007 9:16 am, Roger Searle wrote: Hi, I have the OpenOffice 2.3 deb download but am not sure how to do the install - this is a Mepis 6.5 installation. I have all the deb files extracted in a folder along with the desktop integration file. On a SuSE box yesterday the equivalent was executing rpm -Uvh *.rpm. These are for upgrade to 2.2 so they may still work for you. These worked for me (to 2.2) Bear in mind that Mepis 7 is very close (Beta 4 is available now) http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7783highlight=openoffice+2.2 http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/OpenOffice.org:_Upgrade_from_2.02_to_2.2 Rob
workstation power consumption
Marginally on / off topic I guess... I am interested in quantifying how much it costs to leave a computer running over night, and therefore what the power saving is per year to an organisation if computers that are otherwise left running all night are turned off via a schedule. The question I don't have the answer for so am asking the list is, what would an approximate power consumption be for a typical modern workstation that is sitting idle? Assuming that the monitor has powered down by the operating system. Cheers, Roger
Human Interface Technology Lab open day
This should be worthwhile for those with the time inclination. The HIT Lab NZ at the University of Canterbury will be having an Open House Friday, 21st September 2007, 3pm - 7pm. Read more at; http://www.hitlabnz.org/route.php?r=event-viewevent_id=37 Cheers Ross Drummond
Website Codeing
Hi, I am trying to update information on a website that has been coded in PHP. The code was generated by a programme called Fusion ver 4 for windows. I am using firefox under Ubuntu 7.04. Every atempt to update the site information results in an error. Is fusion 4 for windows optimised in some way for IE? Any coders out there who can offer some insite? regards chris T ___ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com.
Re: Website Codeing
What do you mean exactly? php is (in this instance) a server-side language which is used to generate the html that you can see. Updating the website requires you to change the scripts, rather than the html they generate. I hope that makes sense. It's been a long week. Steve On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:27:02 +1200 Chevhq Car [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to update information on a website that has been coded in PHP. The code was generated by a programme called Fusion ver 4 for windows. I am using firefox under Ubuntu 7.04. Every atempt to update the site information results in an error. Is fusion 4 for windows optimised in some way for IE? Any coders out there who can offer some insite? regards chris T ___ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. pgpShbkeCXl6a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: workstation power consumption
Would depend on what's in it and what you call idle. I would get one of those power meters and just do a bit of testing. Neil Stockbridge is your man to talk to about where to get them. Cheers Don Roger Searle wrote: Marginally on / off topic I guess... I am interested in quantifying how much it costs to leave a computer running over night, and therefore what the power saving is per year to an organisation if computers that are otherwise left running all night are turned off via a schedule. The question I don't have the answer for so am asking the list is, what would an approximate power consumption be for a typical modern workstation that is sitting idle? Assuming that the monitor has powered down by the operating system. Cheers, Roger
Re: workstation power consumption
There are gubbins that can be plugged into a power outlet and which measure the power used by anything that is then plugged into their integrated power outlet. You are welcome to borrow mine if you can't get hold of one. It measures VA, W and the power factor between them and if left in overnight will record the kWh used, which can obviously be combined with the unit charge on your electricity bill to find out how much it cost to run an applicance overnight. Using my gubbin, I read 20W for my EPIA server, 15W for a Transmeta laptop, and 200W for a workstation, although I would guess that modern workstations would use more than 200W. - neil On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:11:04AM +1200, Roger Searle wrote: Marginally on / off topic I guess... I am interested in quantifying how much it costs to leave a computer running over night, and therefore what the power saving is per year to an organisation if computers that are otherwise left running all night are turned off via a schedule. The question I don't have the answer for so am asking the list is, what would an approximate power consumption be for a typical modern workstation that is sitting idle? Assuming that the monitor has powered down by the operating system. Cheers, Roger
Re: workstation power consumption
A suitable gubbin was recently reviewed at Dan's Data: http://dansdata.com/quickshot041.htm It might be the same as this one from Jaycar: http://jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=MS6115 HTH, A PS if you haven't encountered it, Jaycar is in Sydenham. On Fri, September 21, 2007 10:40, Neil Stockbridge wrote: There are gubbins that can be plugged into a power outlet and which measure the power used by anything that is then plugged into their integrated power outlet. You are welcome to borrow mine if you can't get hold of one. It measures VA, W and the power factor between them and if left in overnight will record the kWh used, which can obviously be combined with the unit charge on your electricity bill to find out how much it cost to run an applicance overnight. Using my gubbin, I read 20W for my EPIA server, 15W for a Transmeta laptop, and 200W for a workstation, although I would guess that modern workstations would use more than 200W. - neil On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:11:04AM +1200, Roger Searle wrote: Marginally on / off topic I guess... I am interested in quantifying how much it costs to leave a computer running over night, and therefore what the power saving is per year to an organisation if computers that are otherwise left running all night are turned off via a schedule. The question I don't have the answer for so am asking the list is, what would an approximate power consumption be for a typical modern workstation that is sitting idle? Assuming that the monitor has powered down by the operating system. Cheers, Roger
Open Suse Gear
I've been sent some Open SUSE DVD's (Linux Enterprise 10)and a few caps and soft toys (green lizardy things) Also some Mozilla stickers and Open Web wristbands So anyone interested contact me off list .. cheers Paul
Re: workstation power consumption
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 11:19 +0900, Andrew Errington wrote: PS if you haven't encountered it, Jaycar is in Sydenham. One here in Dorkland too, but they do have mail order at reasonable rates. Vik :v)
Re: Open Suse Gear
I could do with a dvd, I had just been trying to decide whether to download it. Where are you located? I'm in centre city during the day (West Melton at night) Kerry On 21/09/2007, Paul Swafford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been sent some Open SUSE DVD's (Linux Enterprise 10)and a few caps and soft toys (green lizardy things) Also some Mozilla stickers and Open Web wristbands So anyone interested contact me off list .. cheers Paul
Re: Open Suse Gear
and of course that was supposed to be off list! Sorry! On 21/09/2007, Kerry Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could do with a dvd, I had just been trying to decide whether to download it.
