Re: can't change desktop wallpaper

2008-01-22 Thread Roger Searle
Hi, user IDs are the same, group IDs are not.  Can the ID numbers be 
changed?  I've not yet located anything on how to do so - therefore the 
answer may be no or why would you want to.


I guess this is not really a big deal and is no more than a distraction 
from work I should be doing, and given this is the only issue I 
currently have, will just patiently wait until there is an opportunity 
at some later date to try another distro or release.  At which time I 
don't think I'll experiment with using the same /home folder, I'll set 
up from scratch and copy over what I want instead.


Thanks for the replies!
Roger


yuri wrote:

On 22/01/2008, Roger Searle wrote:
  

I should add at this point that this installation of kubuntu made use of
the previous SuSE home folder which basically went without any problem
at all, aside from some minor reconfiguration of email etc.  So this
would lend support to the theory that it is a permissions thing.



Are the numerical user IDs and group IDs the same under kubuntu as
they were under SuSE?
Just having the same name is not enough.

Yuri

  


Re: can't change desktop wallpaper

2008-01-22 Thread Steve Holdoway
sudo vigr
sudo chgrp -R groupname /home/roger

Steve

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:43:56 +1300
Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, user IDs are the same, group IDs are not.  Can the ID numbers be 
 changed?  I've not yet located anything on how to do so - therefore the 
 answer may be no or why would you want to.
 
 I guess this is not really a big deal and is no more than a distraction 
 from work I should be doing, and given this is the only issue I 
 currently have, will just patiently wait until there is an opportunity 
 at some later date to try another distro or release.  At which time I 
 don't think I'll experiment with using the same /home folder, I'll set 
 up from scratch and copy over what I want instead.
 
 Thanks for the replies!
 Roger
 
 
 yuri wrote:
  On 22/01/2008, Roger Searle wrote:

  I should add at this point that this installation of kubuntu made use of
  the previous SuSE home folder which basically went without any problem
  at all, aside from some minor reconfiguration of email etc.  So this
  would lend support to the theory that it is a permissions thing.
  
 
  Are the numerical user IDs and group IDs the same under kubuntu as
  they were under SuSE?
  Just having the same name is not enough.
 
  Yuri
 



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Re: 10 gig of bandwidth to use up - requests?

2008-01-22 Thread Christopher Sawtell
For our collection:
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download.en.php

Hopefully *BSD is included in the definition of Linux?
If so:
ftp://ftp7.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/6.3/

Should we be starting to think about a Saturday afternoon to have a
small InstallFest?

That's not going to take up 10G so there is still volume for other requests.


On 1/23/08, Phill Coxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have 10 gig of bandwidth to burn within 48 hours.

 Any linux related download requests?






-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: 10 gig of bandwidth to use up - requests?

2008-01-22 Thread Phill Coxon

On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 12:47 +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 For our collection:
 http://www.sysresccd.org/Download.en.php

Downloaded. 

 Hopefully *BSD is included in the definition of Linux?
 If so:
 ftp://ftp7.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/6.3/

On the way. All 1.9Gb Should be downloaded within the hour. 

Where would you like them posted to?



Spare Bandwidth...CC Licensed Content freebies.

2008-01-22 Thread John Carter

I'm probably too late for that what to do with 10Gb of bandwith in
48hrs thing, but as a gnice freebie for free software day

How about CD's or DVD's just packed to the brim with CC licensed
music?

With perhaps a nifty guide for setting yourself up as an NZ local
bittorrent source for them.

Imagine every smart NZ bloke and blokess having a recentish Jamendo
torrent mirror

(Some of Ehma's stuff on http://www.jamendo.org is my favourite.)


John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Zealand



Re: Spare Bandwidth...CC Licensed Content freebies.

2008-01-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, January 23, 2008 3:44 pm, John Carter wrote:
 I'm probably too late for that what to do with 10Gb of bandwith in
 48hrs thing, but as a gnice freebie for free software day

 How about CD's or DVD's just packed to the brim with CC licensed
 music?

 With perhaps a nifty guide for setting yourself up as an NZ local
 bittorrent source for them.

 Imagine every smart NZ bloke and blokess having a recentish Jamendo
 torrent mirror

Well while you are about it how about a nifty guide on how to get good
upload speeds and unlimited traffic at a reasonable price in NZ.

-- 
Nick Rout



Re: Spare Bandwidth...CC Licensed Content freebies.

2008-01-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, January 23, 2008 3:53 pm, Nick Rout wrote:

 On Wed, January 23, 2008 3:44 pm, John Carter wrote:
 I'm probably too late for that what to do with 10Gb of bandwith in
 48hrs thing, but as a gnice freebie for free software day

 How about CD's or DVD's just packed to the brim with CC licensed
 music?

 With perhaps a nifty guide for setting yourself up as an NZ local
 bittorrent source for them.

 Imagine every smart NZ bloke and blokess having a recentish Jamendo
 torrent mirror

 Well while you are about it how about a nifty guide on how to get good
 upload speeds and unlimited traffic at a reasonable price in NZ.

 --
 Nick Rout



And the other thing is that bittorrent does not involve mirrors and
there is no such thing as a torrent mirror. It involves only a tracker,
and peers. There is no need of a mirror - although redundant trackers
can be useful if one isn't reliable. Fast seed boxes are a definite plus,
but improbable in NZ unless you really are part of the infrastructure. You
can set up as many trackers for a torrent as you like. I have seen
anything from 1 to about 15.

Would the basics of bittorrent and a review of the available clients be a
useful talk one night? Or have people pretty well got it sussed?

-- 
Nick Rout



Re: can't change desktop wallpaper

2008-01-22 Thread Roger Searle
aaahh - cool that you can do that!  done.  and still can't change the 
background.  i think i'll just leave it, luckily it's stuck on a nice 
enough colour :-)


it's really not worth having spent the time i have already on it but 
never mind, it has been an interesting exercise anyway.


Cheers,
Roger

Steve Holdoway wrote:

sudo vigr
sudo chgrp -R groupname /home/roger

Steve

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:43:56 +1300
Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
Hi, user IDs are the same, group IDs are not.  Can the ID numbers be 
changed?  I've not yet located anything on how to do so - therefore the 
answer may be no or why would you want to.


I guess this is not really a big deal and is no more than a distraction 
from work I should be doing, and given this is the only issue I 
currently have, will just patiently wait until there is an opportunity 
at some later date to try another distro or release.  At which time I 
don't think I'll experiment with using the same /home folder, I'll set 
up from scratch and copy over what I want instead.


Thanks for the replies!
Roger


yuri wrote:


On 22/01/2008, Roger Searle wrote:
  
  

I should add at this point that this installation of kubuntu made use of
the previous SuSE home folder which basically went without any problem
at all, aside from some minor reconfiguration of email etc.  So this
would lend support to the theory that it is a permissions thing.



Are the numerical user IDs and group IDs the same under kubuntu as
they were under SuSE?
Just having the same name is not enough.

Yuri

  
  


Re: can't change desktop wallpaper

2008-01-22 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, January 23, 2008 4:16 pm, Roger Searle wrote:
 aaahh - cool that you can do that!  done.  and still can't change the
 background.  i think i'll just leave it, luckily it's stuck on a nice
 enough colour :-)

 it's really not worth having spent the time i have already on it but
 never mind, it has been an interesting exercise anyway.

 Cheers,
 Roger

One thing that may be occurring is that another program has hold of your
root window (thats essentially the background). I have seen that before
although not with quite the same symptoms.

ie the desktop background may in fact be under some other application.

You haven't played with any of those programs that show a live view of
space/the sky/the moon/your navel have you?

-- 
Nick Rout



Re: Spare Bandwidth...CC Licensed Content freebies.

2008-01-22 Thread John Carter

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Nick Rout wrote:


Imagine every smart NZ bloke and blokess having a recentish Jamendo
torrent mirror


Well while you are about it how about a nifty guide on how to get good
upload speeds and unlimited traffic at a reasonable price in NZ.




And the other thing is that bittorrent does not involve mirrors and
there is no such thing as a torrent mirror. It involves only a tracker,
and peers. There is no need of a mirror - although redundant trackers
can be useful if one isn't reliable. Fast seed boxes are a definite plus,
but improbable in NZ unless you really are part of the infrastructure. You
can set up as many trackers for a torrent as you like. I have seen
anything from 1 to about 15.

Would the basics of bittorrent and a review of the available clients be a
useful talk one night? Or have people pretty well got it sussed?


Sigh! Sorry, I used imprecise terminology.

If many people in NZ had closish to a mirror of Jamendos albums, then
the upload burden on any one of them is likely to be pretty low.

The times I've been playing with torrents I seem to end up uploading
and downloading from US clients anyway (and at that time I was on a
plan that charged for international but not national bandwidth.)

True, with torrents you don't have to have local mirrors, but handing
out for free lots and lots local partial mirrors would just be a nice
way of seeding NZ with Open stuff.

The cute thing is you can use the Jamendo web site as a friendly
browse and search front end, but when you click on torrent down load,
odds on it comes off your own disk. Cute.



John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Zealand



Re: can't change desktop wallpaper

2008-01-22 Thread Roger Searle

Nick Rout wrote:

On Wed, January 23, 2008 4:16 pm, Roger Searle wrote:
  

aaahh - cool that you can do that!  done.  and still can't change the
background.  i think i'll just leave it, luckily it's stuck on a nice
enough colour :-)

it's really not worth having spent the time i have already on it but
never mind, it has been an interesting exercise anyway.

Cheers,
Roger



One thing that may be occurring is that another program has hold of your
root window (thats essentially the background). I have seen that before
although not with quite the same symptoms.

ie the desktop background may in fact be under some other application.

You haven't played with any of those programs that show a live view of
space/the sky/the moon/your navel have you?
  
no, nothing like that.  i can't think of anything out of the ordinary 
that i'm using that would offer an explanation . . .


Re: 10 gig of bandwidth to use up - requests?

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Kiyoto-Ward

Hi

I have the three FreeBSD 6.3 install disk for i386 downloaded and will 
send through to the archive.  If you are looking at FreeBSD, as a way to 
using up the bandwidth, I would recommend the AMD64 version.


Regards

Graeme Kiyoto-Ward

Regards

Graeme Kiyoto-Ward

Phill Coxon wrote:
I have 10 gig of bandwidth to burn within 48 hours. 


Any linux related download requests?



  


Re: can't change desktop wallpaper

2008-01-22 Thread Christopher Sawtell
I suspect that there is some daemon ( kde has lots ) or other running
which has locked some file or other in your ~/.kde directory tree.

I'd suggest logging out of your account.
logging in again as root
Assuming that you're on a machine over which you have full say-so as
the root user.
go to single user mode - telinit 1
This should kill all the daemons, but check with  ps aux to see that
it has, because some Linux distros are far from punctillious about it.
Kill off any lingerers by hand.

now to do the commands Steve suggested.

sudo vigr
sudo chgrp -R groupname /home/roger

restart multiuser mode - telinit 5
( the number is probably 5, but distros are not consistent. iirc
Debian is 3. TAKE CARE )
grep initdefault /etc/inittab | cut -d ':' -f 2
should give you the required number

Log out of root and back in again as yourself.
Alternatively ( and safely ) simply reboot.

If that does not work use a SystemRescueCD so that you can be
absolutely certain that your files simply cannot be being locked by a
process.

Is an amplification of this sort of thing a possible subject for an
evening's talk?



On 1/23/08, Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nick Rout wrote:
  On Wed, January 23, 2008 4:16 pm, Roger Searle wrote:
 
  aaahh - cool that you can do that!  done.  and still can't change the
  background.  i think i'll just leave it, luckily it's stuck on a nice
  enough colour :-)
 
  it's really not worth having spent the time i have already on it but
  never mind, it has been an interesting exercise anyway.
 
  Cheers,
  Roger
 
 
  One thing that may be occurring is that another program has hold of your
  root window (thats essentially the background). I have seen that before
  although not with quite the same symptoms.
 
  ie the desktop background may in fact be under some other application.
 
  You haven't played with any of those programs that show a live view of
  space/the sky/the moon/your navel have you?
 
 no, nothing like that.  i can't think of anything out of the ordinary
 that i'm using that would offer an explanation . . .



-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell