Re: The Story of the Little Computer That Could

2008-08-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Douglas Royds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The crustier engineers among us (myself included) might enjoy this bit of
 steam computer history:

   http://www.hp9825.com/

Further comment to the point of steam computing:-
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/onlinestuff/stories/babbage.aspx

See 1st. Reference on page 5 for NZ relevance, and the second for
relevance to the thread.
Otherwise totally OT, 'pologies, hopefully interesting to older crusts
on the list none the less.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Meeting presentation - email encryption.

2008-08-13 Thread Don Gould

Have we ever done a presentation on email encryption?

I know SFA about it and would like to.

Cheers Don


Re: Meeting presentation - email encryption.

2008-08-13 Thread Steve
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:23:27 +1200
Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have we ever done a presentation on email encryption?
 
 I know SFA about it and would like to.
 
 Cheers Don
Do you mean encryption of an email, or the sending medium - TLS, IMAPS, etc??

Steve

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Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Meeting presentation - email encryption.

2008-08-13 Thread Don Gould



Steve wrote:

Do you mean encryption of an email, or the sending medium - TLS, IMAPS, etc??


Encryption of an email.

Setting up SSL on the transport medium isn't a big thing to do these 
days is it?


You do raise an interesting point though...

How do I protect the messages on my IMAP store?  How do I keep sys 
admins out of my content and still be mobile with something like web mail?


However what I was thinking was more along the lines of...

I want to send Nick an email that only Nick can read.  How do I do it?

I want nick to know that the message he got did come from me and wasn't 
tampered with along the way.  Is that possible.


thurnderbird has an 'encrypt' button.  What do I need to do to make 
that button functional.


What tools are there for sending/receiving email that are easy to use

eg.  Assume different levels of security...  As always, I assume the 
more 'user friendly' you make things, the less security there is.  ie. 
If my 'email client' unencrypts a message then stores it as plain text 
on my laptop then it's not hard to get the messages by taking my 
machine, however the message is still secure in transport.


What different levels of security are there?  48bit, 128bit?  What's 
the norm to use at present?  What's best practice?


Does that give you enough info for a presentation Steve? (Hint hint, 
nudge, nudge, wink)


Cheers Don


Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread Tom Munro Glass
Do we have any Mandriva experts on the list?

I have some questions about how to install a source package and do a custom 
build, but thought I'd check first if there is someone here who can help me.

Cheers

Tom Munro Glass


Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread Barry Marchant

Hi

I have been running Mandriva since before mandrake 8.

1st question ... what is the app, is the src in a .mdk package? If so, 
install the pkg as per normal, it will go into /usr/src/whatever.


If it is a tar or similar pkg unpack it to /usr/src/... Konqueror is 
excellent for this. Open 2 panels, unpack in 1 panel, goto usr/src in 
the 2nd  panel, then drag n drop the appropriate dir across.


From there it is a normal compile but test before you install. You will 
need the src package for your kernel installed before you compile. If 
the compile bombs there may be other pkgs you need to install also.


HTH
Barry
---
Tom Munro Glass wrote:

Do we have any Mandriva experts on the list?

I have some questions about how to install a source package and do a custom 
build, but thought I'd check first if there is someone here who can help me.


Cheers

Tom Munro Glass





Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread Tom Munro Glass
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Barry Marchant wrote:
 Hi

 I have been running Mandriva since before mandrake 8.

 1st question ... what is the app, is the src in a .mdk package? If so,
 install the pkg as per normal, it will go into /usr/src/whatever.

 If it is a tar or similar pkg unpack it to /usr/src/... Konqueror is
 excellent for this. Open 2 panels, unpack in 1 panel, goto usr/src in
 the 2nd  panel, then drag n drop the appropriate dir across.

  From there it is a normal compile but test before you install. You will
 need the src package for your kernel installed before you compile. If
 the compile bombs there may be other pkgs you need to install also.

 HTH
 Barry

Hi Barry, thanks for your reply.

I have an application that I have written that uses Qt4 and in particular it 
needs to use the Firebird/Interbase driver. There doesn't appear to be a 
package for the IBASE SQL plugin, so I figure I need to build Qt myself. 

So I downloaded the qt4-4.3.4-6mdv2008.1.src.rpm package and tried to install 
it. First Mandriva warns me that I probably don't want to install it because 
it's a source package, but I say install anyway, but nothing seems to 
happen - I can find no trace of the source files being installed. I can 
always download the source from Trolltech but I'm curious why Mandriva won't 
install from the package.

If I can solve this problem, the next step is that I need to compile Qt4 and 
then make a package that can be used to install the IBASE plugin on other 
systems. I'm not really sure where to start with this.

Cheers
Tom


Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread John Rye
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:06:08 +1200
Tom Munro Glass wrote:

 On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Barry Marchant wrote:
  Hi
 
  I have been running Mandriva since before mandrake 8.
 
  1st question ... what is the app, is the src in a .mdk package? If so,
  install the pkg as per normal, it will go into /usr/src/whatever.
 
  If it is a tar or similar pkg unpack it to /usr/src/... Konqueror is
  excellent for this. Open 2 panels, unpack in 1 panel, goto usr/src in
  the 2nd  panel, then drag n drop the appropriate dir across.
 
   From there it is a normal compile but test before you install. You will
  need the src package for your kernel installed before you compile. If
  the compile bombs there may be other pkgs you need to install also.
 
  HTH
  Barry
 
 Hi Barry, thanks for your reply.
 
 I have an application that I have written that uses Qt4 and in particular it 
 needs to use the Firebird/Interbase driver. There doesn't appear to be a 
 package for the IBASE SQL plugin, so I figure I need to build Qt myself. 
 
 So I downloaded the qt4-4.3.4-6mdv2008.1.src.rpm package and tried to install 
 it. First Mandriva warns me that I probably don't want to install it because 
 it's a source package, but I say install anyway, but nothing seems to 
 happen - I can find no trace of the source files being installed. I can 
 always download the source from Trolltech but I'm curious why Mandriva won't 
 install from the package.
 
 If I can solve this problem, the next step is that I need to compile Qt4 and 
 then make a package that can be used to install the IBASE plugin on other 
 systems. I'm not really sure where to start with this.

as root:

urpmi qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib

John


Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread Tom Munro Glass
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, John Rye wrote:

 as root:

 urpmi qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib

 John

If only it was that simple - that package doesn't exist, at least not in any 
media I can find. 

There is an old package qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib-4.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm I 
located somewhere but this doesn't work with the current release of Qt4.

So unless you know where I can get a current qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib 
package I think I'm stuck with building Qt

Tom



Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread Christopher Sawtell
http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandriva/2008.0/i586/media/main/release/qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib-4.1.1-3mdk.i586.html

Any good?


Praise be to the Google Gods who know ( almost ) everything.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread Barry Marchant
What version of Mandriva are you running, The package is available for 
2007 and 2008. looks like 2008.0 and 2008.1.


Go to rpm.pbone.net advanced search select mandriva2008 and enter 
'qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib'


HTH
Barry
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Tom Munro Glass wrote:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, John Rye wrote:


as root:

urpmi qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib

John



If only it was that simple - that package doesn't exist, at least not in any 
media I can find. 

There is an old package qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib-4.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm I 
located somewhere but this doesn't work with the current release of Qt4.


So unless you know where I can get a current qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib 
package I think I'm stuck with building Qt


Tom





Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread John Rye
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:43:49 +1200
Tom Munro Glass wrote:

 On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, John Rye wrote:
 
  as root:
 
  urpmi qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib
 
  John
 
 If only it was that simple - that package doesn't exist, at least not in any 
 media I can find. 
 
 There is an old package qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib-4.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm I 
 located somewhere but this doesn't work with the current release of Qt4.
 
 So unless you know where I can get a current qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib 
 package I think I'm stuck with building Qt

So which version of Mandriva are you using? Is it the Free or Powerpack
(purchased)?

There should be no need to rebuild QT from source, make sure you
have ALL the QT and firebase -devel libraries installed.

If you feel you must use the .src files the correct commandline is:

rpm --rebuild filename   (executed as root)

John


Re: Mandriva questions

2008-08-13 Thread Tom Munro Glass
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Barry Marchant wrote:
 What version of Mandriva are you running, The package is available for
 2007 and 2008. looks like 2008.0 and 2008.1.

 Go to rpm.pbone.net advanced search select mandriva2008 and enter
 'qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib'

 HTH
 Barry

I'm using the free version of Mandriva 2008.1.

Searching the media on this site and any other mirror I have looked at, there 
are only 4 SQL plugin packages available:

qt4-database-plugin-mysql-lib-4.3.4-6mdv2008.1.i586.rpm
qt4-database-plugin-odbc-lib-4.3.4-6mdv2008.1.i586.rpm
qt4-database-plugin-pqsql-lib-4.3.4-6mdv2008.1.i586.rpm
qt4-database-plugin-sqlite-lib-4.3.4-6mdv2008.1.i586.rpm

What I clearly need is
qt4-database-plugin-ibase-lib-4.3.4-6mdv2008.1.i586.rpm
but this doesn't seem to exist, so that's why I believe I will have to build 
it.

I have now compiled the Qt source from Trolltech and it created the library 
file libqsqlibase.so. I copied this into the 
directory /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/lib/sqldrivers and my application now works.

I don't know why the ibase driver is not included along with the other 4 
drivers, but as far as I can the package only needs to install the file 
libqsqlibase.so so hopefully I can make a package.

Tom