RE: Hi from South Africa
Hi, As another migrant a few points, Christchurch is a nice city to live in with somewhat cheaper living expenses but this is more than made up for by the poor employment prospects and the lower pay. If it is work you are concerned with go for Wellington, still a lovely vibrant city if you can cope with the wind. -Original Message- From: Schalk Engelbrecht [mailto:schalk.engelbre...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 7:35 pm To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Hi from South Africa Hi guys, just thought I would introduce myself and say hello so long. I am currently in South Africa but joined your group as I am immigrating to New Zealand at the end of July. I am really wanting to settle and find work in Christchurch, but from what I have seen so far it looks like I might have a better chance in Wellington. I really do not see myself settling in Auckland. It is quite funny to watch your discussions over the last couple of days - especially the ones over the February meeting and all the suggestions. It seems like user groups all over the world have the same things in common. I can show you the exact same discussions going around in South Africa. I will be monitoring this group and contribute where I can and hope it goes from strength to strength so by the time I land there you guys have a well established bi-monthly meeting in place where I can meet all of you. Schalk ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Re: Hi from South Africa
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Payne, Owen owen.pa...@ccc.govt.nz wrote: Hi, As another migrant a few points, Christchurch is a nice city to live in with somewhat cheaper living expenses but this is more than made up for by the poor employment prospects and the lower pay. If it is work you are concerned with go for Wellington, still a lovely vibrant city if you can cope with the wind. Actually having lived in chch for quite a while, the wind here is awful too. by easterly! -Original Message- From: Schalk Engelbrecht [mailto:schalk.engelbre...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 7:35 pm To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Hi from South Africa Hi guys, just thought I would introduce myself and say hello so long. I am currently in South Africa but joined your group as I am immigrating to New Zealand at the end of July. I am really wanting to settle and find work in Christchurch, but from what I have seen so far it looks like I might have a better chance in Wellington. I really do not see myself settling in Auckland. It is quite funny to watch your discussions over the last couple of days - especially the ones over the February meeting and all the suggestions. It seems like user groups all over the world have the same things in common. I can show you the exact same discussions going around in South Africa. I will be monitoring this group and contribute where I can and hope it goes from strength to strength so by the time I land there you guys have a well established bi-monthly meeting in place where I can meet all of you. Schalk ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
RE: Hi from South Africa
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Payne, Owen wrote: As another migrant a few points, Christchurch is a nice city to live in with somewhat cheaper living expenses but this is more than made up for by the poor employment prospects and the lower pay. If it is work you are concerned with go for Wellington, still a lovely vibrant city if you can cope with the wind. If you come from Port Elizabeth... you'll feel right at home. Otherwise you'll wonder why you can't ever walk straight and why you are spending so much repairing car doors that have been ripped clean out of your hand and bent the wrong way. You also may look at the very visible and obviously very active tectonic plate boundary fault line bordering the harbour and wonder which idiot put a capital city here. The fresh volcanic cones dotting the Auckland landscape may also cause you to wonder about the residents knowledge of geology. Christchurch's skyline may be dominated by an even larger volcano... but it has have been soothingly contoured by glaciers, removing the sense of edginess about it. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz New Zealand
RE: Hi from South Africa
I just thought all that was down to the NZ 'It'll be right and the I'm to hard to need worry about massive geological disasters attitude. The sense of impending destruction just adds an exciting challenge to each day. -Original Message- From: John Carter [mailto:john.car...@tait.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 9:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: RE: Hi from South Africa On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Payne, Owen wrote: As another migrant a few points, Christchurch is a nice city to live in with somewhat cheaper living expenses but this is more than made up for by the poor employment prospects and the lower pay. If it is work you are concerned with go for Wellington, still a lovely vibrant city if you can cope with the wind. If you come from Port Elizabeth... you'll feel right at home. Otherwise you'll wonder why you can't ever walk straight and why you are spending so much repairing car doors that have been ripped clean out of your hand and bent the wrong way. You also may look at the very visible and obviously very active tectonic plate boundary fault line bordering the harbour and wonder which idiot put a capital city here. The fresh volcanic cones dotting the Auckland landscape may also cause you to wonder about the residents knowledge of geology. Christchurch's skyline may be dominated by an even larger volcano... but it has have been soothingly contoured by glaciers, removing the sense of edginess about it. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz New Zealand ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Christchurch RepRaps - OT
Is there anyone in Christchurch building a RepRap? I've been asked by someone moving into the area who is building one and wants to contact others. As we use Linux for developing the software I thought there was a fair chance of anyone doing so being on the list. It's also vaguely on topic :) Feel free to reply by private e-mail if you think it more appropriate. Vik :v)
RE: Christchurch RepRaps - OT
I'd love to see one in operation if it gets completed. Perhaps a topic for the group meetings.. -Original Message- From: Vik Olliver [mailto:v...@olliver.family.gen.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 9:57 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Christchurch RepRaps - OT Is there anyone in Christchurch building a RepRap? I've been asked by someone moving into the area who is building one and wants to contact others. As we use Linux for developing the software I thought there was a fair chance of anyone doing so being on the list. It's also vaguely on topic :) Feel free to reply by private e-mail if you think it more appropriate. Vik :v) ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Re: Distro for a single use machine
I have looked a bit, between out in the sun chores, thanks for suggestions- I had a laptop running Ubuntu for this plan but the power in socket got broken because the techs for DSE who fixed it a year or more ago under warranty didn't put it back together properly Bought a ext case for its HD but it appears to be a Hitachi that has a different connection from anything else on the planet. I use a EEE mostly for day to day life and have thought of buying one- install GOS and Gramps but I don't think they are robust enough to survive being lent. Old Mandrake or Debian of the day with Gramps of that day in this IBM looks an option, it is small enough to carry the box, but robust in that it needs to be set up on the peoples existing screen, key pad and mouse with adapter. But Damn Small Linux or Puppy, look good on the net, read a page by some dude who put GRAMPS on a Puppy but I did not understand what he was on about nor could T figure if it ran OK or was near impossible or what??? Are there any / many GRAMPS users in the group, it is one of those things I do full on for a few weeks a year and then forget, and I can see a website is my next port of call.
Ubuntu apt-get issue
For my sins I have a few Ubuntu 6.04 LTS Server machines under my control. Recently updates have been failing with machine-dependant variations of the following snippet. Has anyone else had issues with updates from nz.archive.ubuntu.com? 8888 ~$ sudo apt-get update Get:1 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Translation-en_NZ Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Get:3 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/main Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/restricted Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release Get:4 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release [58.5kB] Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Sources Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Sources Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Sources Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release [58.5kB] Err http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release Fetched 569B in 7s (75B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release W: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Release W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Linux on Back2Go li...@back2go.co.nz wrote: I have looked a bit, between out in the sun chores, thanks for suggestions- I had a laptop running Ubuntu for this plan but the power in socket got broken because the techs for DSE who fixed it a year or more ago under warranty didn't put it back together properly Bought a ext case for its HD but it appears to be a Hitachi that has a different connection from anything else on the planet. I use a EEE mostly for day to day life and have thought of buying one- install GOS and Gramps but I don't think they are robust enough to survive being lent. Old Mandrake or Debian of the day with Gramps of that day in this IBM looks an option, it is small enough to carry the box, but robust in that it needs to be set up on the peoples existing screen, key pad and mouse with adapter. But Damn Small Linux or Puppy, look good on the net, read a page by some dude who put GRAMPS on a Puppy but I did not understand what he was on about nor could T figure if it ran OK or was near impossible or what??? Are there any / many GRAMPS users in the group, it is one of those things I do full on for a few weeks a year and then forget, and I can see a website is my next port of call. I believe Barry is interested in genealogy and may use gramps. I played with it a while ago, but an earlier version. There appear to have been significant changes in architecture, including a move from the data being in a large xml file to using berkley DB (which should get better performance with large data collections). The best way to try it is to suck it and see. May I suggest: 1. do a minimal text based server install of ubuntu. 2. do aptitude install gramps abiword aptitude will pull in all dependencies including X and gnome libraries. This should give you the most minimal install. Then see how it works. If it doesn't work well, consider a newer|faster|higher ram machine. You will have lost nothing except your own time.
Re: Ubuntu apt-get issue
I have on numerous occasions seen similar errors which all seem to resolve themselves by retrying in a day or so. Unless the error relates to a corrupt downloaded package which is resolved by removing from the cache and retrying. Which doesn't appear to be the issue you're seeing here. Cheers, Roger Roy Britten wrote: For my sins I have a few Ubuntu 6.04 LTS Server machines under my control. Recently updates have been failing with machine-dependant variations of the following snippet. Has anyone else had issues with updates from nz.archive.ubuntu.com? 8888 ~$ sudo apt-get update Get:1 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Translation-en_NZ Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Get:3 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/main Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/restricted Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/restricted Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/universe Translation-en_NZ Ign http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/multiverse Translation-en_NZ Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release Ign http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release Get:4 http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release [58.5kB] Err http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Sources Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Sources Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages Hit http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Sources Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release [58.5kB] Err http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release Fetched 569B in 7s (75B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release W: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Release W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Re: Ubuntu apt-get issue
2009/1/27 Roger Searle ro...@stepahead.org.nz: I have on numerous occasions seen similar errors which all seem to resolve themselves by retrying in a day or so. This has been going on for several days now (I didn't note the day I first saw these symptoms, but it was over a week ago). I flicked an email through to citylink (who I believe administer the archive) without effect. Roy.
Re: Ubuntu apt-get issue
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Roy Britten wrote: For my sins I have a few Ubuntu 6.04 LTS Server machines under my control. Recently updates have been failing with machine-dependant variations of the following snippet. Has anyone else had issues with updates from nz.archive.ubuntu.com? Err http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security Release Fetched 569B in 7s (75B/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2 I get a fair amount of such crap via apt-cacher. So I run a fairly rigorous clean out of it daily... However I'm not sure this is your problem. Sometimes some deep magic happens with the key signing and running apt-get update twice gets rid of it. Sometimes it seems to need to stew a day, before doing that fixes it. Maybe somebody updated the upstream repository whilst the mirror was doing it's thing, resulting in the mirroring system taking an inconsistent snapshot of the upstream repository. I remember once shifting my upstream repository to the ubuntu main site, doing apt-get update twice and off I went. I don't think it nz.archive.ubuntu.com that doing this to you, I think its upstream of them. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz New Zealand
Re: Ubuntu apt-get issue
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:23:23 +1300 Roy Britten roy.brit...@gmail.com wrote: For my sins I have a few Ubuntu 6.04 LTS Server machines under my control. Recently updates have been failing with machine-dependant variations of the following snippet. Has anyone else had issues with updates from nz.archive.ubuntu.com? 8888 [snip] The latest LTS is Hardy, which is 8.04, not 6.04. Can you confirm that's what you meant. Otherwise there is something really, really wrong there. FWIW my server is running 64 bit 8.04 with no problem at all. I use the following sources.list: deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy main restricted deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-updates main restricted deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security main restricted deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy universe multiverse deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-updates universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-security universe multiverse hth, Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz
Re: Ubuntu apt-get issue
The latest LTS is Hardy, which is 8.04, not 6.04. Can you confirm that's what you meant. Otherwise there is something really, really wrong there. My bad; 8.04 Hardy it is. One day I'll learn to type properly.
Re: Ubuntu apt-get issue
FWIW my server is running 64 bit 8.04 with no problem at all. I use the following sources.list: The boxes that are having issues are 32-bit, and have sources much like yours. Does apt-get keep a cache of downloaded package lists somewhere? I can't find any command option to clear that sort of thing. Cheers, Roy.
Re: Ubuntu apt-get issue
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:36:36 +1300 Roy Britten roy.brit...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW my server is running 64 bit 8.04 with no problem at all. I use the following sources.list: The boxes that are having issues are 32-bit, and have sources much like yours. Does apt-get keep a cache of downloaded package lists somewhere? I can't find any command option to clear that sort of thing. Cheers, Roy. If apt-get clean all apt-get update doesn't work ( which it probably wont ), then the sledgehammer is... rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* apt-get update There may be an error returned trying to remove the /var/lib/apt/lists/partial directory, and if it still fails, clear that down as well. hth, Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz
Re: Hi from South Africa
Schalk, you will love Chch. There will be plenty of fellow immigrants and a very friendly 'native' population. You need to know the Chch is the centre of Cricket in NZ. Even our current provincial Captain is South African. As a representative of the new world power in Cricket (and about time too we all say), you will be most welcome. But you will have to convert to Crusader colours quickly - we dont stand for disloyalty. Good luck on the job hunt. - David On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Payne, Owen owen.pa...@ccc.govt.nz wrote: I just thought all that was down to the NZ 'It'll be right and the I'm to hard to need worry about massive geological disasters attitude. The sense of impending destruction just adds an exciting challenge to each day. -Original Message- From: John Carter [mailto:john.car...@tait.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 9:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: RE: Hi from South Africa On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Payne, Owen wrote: As another migrant a few points, Christchurch is a nice city to live in with somewhat cheaper living expenses but this is more than made up for by the poor employment prospects and the lower pay. If it is work you are concerned with go for Wellington, still a lovely vibrant city if you can cope with the wind. If you come from Port Elizabeth... you'll feel right at home. Otherwise you'll wonder why you can't ever walk straight and why you are spending so much repairing car doors that have been ripped clean out of your hand and bent the wrong way. You also may look at the very visible and obviously very active tectonic plate boundary fault line bordering the harbour and wonder which idiot put a capital city here. The fresh volcanic cones dotting the Auckland landscape may also cause you to wonder about the residents knowledge of geology. Christchurch's skyline may be dominated by an even larger volcano... but it has have been soothingly contoured by glaciers, removing the sense of edginess about it. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz New Zealand ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Re: Hi from South Africa
Cricket - no problem! Love it! And as for supporting the Crusaders, I have supported them ever since super 14 started (except when they play against the sharks!) - why do you think I want to move to Chch... I am also well accustomed to wind (note wind and not gas) as I grew up in Port Elizabeth (SA's official windy city) and now stay in Cape Town (My official windy city). We'll see how it goes with the job hunting guys. I am well aware of the limitations in Chch and if things don't work out there, I will start looking at Wellington. Cheers On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 20:01 +1300, David Lowe wrote: Schalk, you will love Chch. There will be plenty of fellow immigrants and a very friendly 'native' population. You need to know the Chch is the centre of Cricket in NZ. Even our current provincial Captain is South African. As a representative of the new world power in Cricket (and about time too we all say), you will be most welcome. But you will have to convert to Crusader colours quickly - we dont stand for disloyalty. Good luck on the job hunt. - David On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Payne, Owen owen.pa...@ccc.govt.nz wrote: I just thought all that was down to the NZ 'It'll be right and the I'm to hard to need worry about massive geological disasters attitude. The sense of impending destruction just adds an exciting challenge to each day. -Original Message- From: John Carter [mailto:john.car...@tait.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2009 9:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: RE: Hi from South Africa On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Payne, Owen wrote: As another migrant a few points, Christchurch is a nice city to live in with somewhat cheaper living expenses but this is more than made up for by the poor employment prospects and the lower pay. If it is work you are concerned with go for Wellington, still a lovely vibrant city if you can cope with the wind. If you come from Port Elizabeth... you'll feel right at home. Otherwise you'll wonder why you can't ever walk straight and why you are spending so much repairing car doors that have been ripped clean out of your hand and bent the wrong way. You also may look at the very visible and obviously very active tectonic plate boundary fault line bordering the harbour and wonder which idiot put a capital city here. The fresh volcanic cones dotting the Auckland landscape may also cause you to wonder about the residents knowledge of geology. Christchurch's skyline may be dominated by an even larger volcano... but it has have been soothingly contoured by glaciers, removing the sense of edginess about it. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz New Zealand ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
