Re: OT: stepper motors, etc

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Errington
Actually (and I am replying to the OP, not my own message) you might be
better off with a grunty servomotor.  Some R/C servos are capable of very
high torque and rapid and accurate positioning.  In fact, since a servo is
often used to give a 180 degree output range it might suit this project
better to gear the output down (because such a large range is not
required) and thereby increase the torque.  That would keep the cost down
too, and you wouldn't have to write your own PID controller for
positioning.

A



Re: OT: stepper motors, etc

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Errington
On Tue, June 2, 2009 12:37, Craig Falconer wrote:
> Vik Olliver wrote, On 02/06/09 15:02:
>
>> You probably want to drive the tensioner through a worm gear, which
>> automatically ratchets.
>
> How do you slack off the tension later, if there's some kind of one-way
> ratchet in there?  With a manual release?

You don't.  You just run the worm the other way (it is, after all, a worm
that turns).

Ratchet is probably a poor choice of word.  Fundamentally the worm gear
prevents any load on the output being passed back to the input.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worm_drive

A



Re: Desktop suddenly insists on showing all contents of $HOME

2009-06-01 Thread chris
i solved that one by using
gksudo nautilus which logs you in as root, then moving the folder back
to the filesysten where it belongs.

Cheers chris T
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:28 +1200, Andrew Packer wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:56 +1200, chris wrote:
> > I have had this happen
> > You have to add that line SHMConfig to the options section of xorg.conf
> > then reboot.
> > 
> > I am asuming that the mouse pad works perfectly for other users?
> 
> I confess I didn't think of trying the touchpad while logged in as
> another user.  No one else uses the touchpad.  (I use it only rarely -
> ordinarily have a trackball plugged in.)
> 
> I've added the line Option "SHMConfig" "true" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and
> the touchpad config program now works.  At least, it runs.
> 
> I've still got my entire home folder on my desktop, which is the main
> problem.
> 
> =Andrew
> 
> 
> 



Re: OT: stepper motors, etc

2009-06-01 Thread Craig Falconer

Vik Olliver wrote, On 02/06/09 15:02:

You probably want to drive the tensioner through a worm gear, which
automatically ratchets.


How do you slack off the tension later, if there's some kind of one-way 
ratchet in there?  With a manual release?



--
Craig Falconer



Re: OT: stepper motors, etc

2009-06-01 Thread steve
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 15:02 +1200, Vik Olliver wrote:

> If you do find a supplier of nice stepper motors, please let me know. I
> can only find fairly feeble ones from Jaycar that asplode if left
> connected to their rated operating voltage.
> 
> Vik :v)

You probably need washing machine motors for your needs, Vic (:

-- 
Steve Holdoway 
http://www.greengecko.co.nz



Re: OT: stepper motors, etc

2009-06-01 Thread Vik Olliver

On 02/06/09 Wesley Parish wrote:

 Sorry to be so off-topic, but are there any stepper motor suppliers in
 Christchurch?  I'm wondering if there are any small enough to fit in
 a cramped location, yet powerful enough to change tension on a wire 

already

 under considerable tension?  And electrically robust enough to handle
 regular on-off switching, while using as minimal an amount of current 

at as low a

 voltage as possible?


You probably want to drive the tensioner through a worm gear, which
automatically ratchets.

If you do find a supplier of nice stepper motors, please let me know. I
can only find fairly feeble ones from Jaycar that asplode if left
connected to their rated operating voltage.

Vik :v)





Re: Stepper motors.

2009-06-01 Thread Kerry Mayes
A source of "potentially robust" stepper motors is from cars with
climate control air-conditioning - they are also used to pulling
cables.

(Not Alfa 164s though because their stepper motors are a weak point)

2009/6/2 Christopher Sawtell :
> I have a few loose and various stepper motors, also a couple of old printers
> which will have some in as components.
>
> Molten media have a nearly continuous supply out of scanners, printers, old
> disks, etc etc.
> If mine are no good, I'd suggest you try there.
>
> --
> Sincerely etc.
> Christopher Sawtell
>


Stepper motors.

2009-06-01 Thread Christopher Sawtell
I have a few loose and various stepper motors, also a couple of old printers
which will have some in as components.

Molten media have a nearly continuous supply out of scanners, printers, old
disks, etc etc.
If mine are no good, I'd suggest you try there.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: OT: stepper motors, etc

2009-06-01 Thread Craig Falconer

Wesley Parish wrote, On 02/06/09 13:11:

Sorry to be so off-topic, but are there any stepper motor suppliers in
Christchurch?  I'm wondering if there are any small enough to fit in a cramped
location, yet powerful enough to change tension on a wire already under
considerable tension?  And electrically robust enough to handle regular on-off
switching, while using as minimal an amount of current at as low a voltage as
possible?
This is for my Pedal Steel Guitar The Next Generation ;)


You want to make it self-tuning or something ?

Possibly need some kind of reduction gear instead of making the stepper 
do it all.


And it would have to lock still under no-power, else the string would 
pull back to slack.  Probably need some other controlled clamp to hold 
the string once its been tensioned.




--
Craig Falconer



OT: stepper motors, etc

2009-06-01 Thread Wesley Parish
Hi, folks

Sorry to be so off-topic, but are there any stepper motor suppliers in
Christchurch?  I'm wondering if there are any small enough to fit in a cramped
location, yet powerful enough to change tension on a wire already under
considerable tension?  And electrically robust enough to handle regular on-off
switching, while using as minimal an amount of current at as low a voltage as
possible?

This is for my Pedal Steel Guitar The Next Generation ;)

Thanks

Wesley Parish

"Sharpened hands are happy hands.
"Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands" 
- A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge

"I me.  Shape middled me.  I would come out into hot!" 
I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the 
other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press


Re: Tonight

2009-06-01 Thread Leif Keane
linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>Checking in to confirm we're farewelling Chris from 6:30pm tonight at
>the Twisted Hop.


I can't make it, but I'd be obliged if you could tell him  "thanks and
good luck" from me.

Leif



Re: Tonight

2009-06-01 Thread Christopher Sawtell
YES!

2009/6/2 Roy Britten 

> Checking in to confirm we're farewelling Chris from 6:30pm tonight at
> the Twisted Hop.
>
> See you there.
> Roy.
>



-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Tonight

2009-06-01 Thread Roy Britten
Checking in to confirm we're farewelling Chris from 6:30pm tonight at
the Twisted Hop.

See you there.
Roy.


Re: Desktop suddenly insists on showing all contents of $HOME

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Packer
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 07:40 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:

> what does ls -l ~/Desktop tell you?

IIRC, when I ran ls -l ~/Desktop early on in the investigation, the
output showed the same files that I saw by opening a Nautilus window via
Places > Desktop.

When I booted up this morning the problem was gone.  The desktop is now
showing the contents of ~/Desktop.  Running ls -l ~/Desktop and
comparing with the GUI version (with "View Hidden Files" ticked), the
outputs are equivalent.

Between when I sent the request for help and this morning, I had powered
down and rebooted the laptop at least twice (it doesn't get left running
because electrical energy is limited here, and suspend-to-RAM crashes
more often than not).

I'm very happy to have my desktop back, but puzzled.

=Andrew



Re: Desktop suddenly insists on showing all contents of $HOME

2009-06-01 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Andrew Packer  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:56 +1200, chris wrote:
>> I have had this happen
>> You have to add that line SHMConfig to the options section of xorg.conf
>> then reboot.
>>
>> I am asuming that the mouse pad works perfectly for other users?
>
> I confess I didn't think of trying the touchpad while logged in as
> another user.  No one else uses the touchpad.  (I use it only rarely -
> ordinarily have a trackball plugged in.)
>
> I've added the line Option "SHMConfig" "true" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and
> the touchpad config program now works.  At least, it runs.
>
> I've still got my entire home folder on my desktop, which is the main
> problem.
>
> =Andrew
>
>

what does ls -l ~/Desktop tell you?