Re: clug domains - renewal time again

2009-08-26 Thread Daniel Hill
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Craig Falconer wrote:
 Craig Falconer wrote, On 27/07/09 15:26:
 Nick Rout wrote, On 27/07/09 15:22:
 At this stage I wish to acknowledge again the input of Jim
 Cheetham, who has looked after our server, the person who paid
 for renewal last year (IIRC they wanted to remain nameless) and
 Craig F for horse.

 horse has been down for over a week now, and noone has noticed or
  commented.

 Horse has had more activity since I posted this a month ago.

 However I've had a small hardware failure and had to juggle some
 motherboards about, so horse and the host server are down till next
  month.

 (on the good side, it will be a VT capable CPU next time)


Never heard of horse before
Just wondering what is horse used for?

- --
python -c print \\.join([
\\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
for i  in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )

http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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Neat, Crazy, Cool, scripts

2009-08-26 Thread Daniel Hill
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So I was reading over the old archive of xkcd's blag, and found this:
http://blag.xkcd.com/2009/04/27/a-problem/
(read the comments lots of bash tips)

just wondering if anyone know's any neat tricks and what not for linux
I wrote this one the other day: WARNING THIS NEEDS ROOT
AND ASKS FOR IT (VIA SUDO), IT MAY NOT DESTROY YOUR
COMPUTER I'M WARNING YOU AND I HEAR BY CLAM NO
RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAMAGE CAUSED

it will also erase any file called speed test.txt in the current running
directory
code
FILE=speed tests.txt; cp /dev/null $FILE; for i in `echo /dev/sd?
| sed s:/dev/::g` ; do LINE=Disk:/dev/$i ; LINE=$LINE `sudo
hdparm -t /dev/$i | grep Timing | awk ' {... print $11 $12 } ' `;
LINE=$LINE `sudo fdisk -l /dev/$i | grep Disk /dev/$i | awk '{
print $3 $4 }' | sed s/,//g `; echo $LINE  $FILE ; done
/code

- --
python -c print \\.join([
\\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
for i  in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )

http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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Re: clug domains - renewal time again

2009-08-26 Thread Craig Falconer

Daniel Hill wrote, On 27/08/09 00:39:

horse has been down for over a week now, and noone has noticed or
commented.



Horse has had more activity since I posted this a month ago.
However I've had a small hardware failure and had to juggle some
motherboards about, so horse and the host server are down till next
month.
(on the good side, it will be a VT capable CPU next time)



Never heard of horse before
Just wondering what is horse used for?


Its a shell server - nothing flash.  Most users here have linux boxes of 
their own, but sometimes a host outside the network can be helpful for 
testing, or some users like James just don't have a linux box.


More news in the new month.


--
Craig Falconer



Re: Neat, Crazy, Cool, scripts

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 07:34 +1200, Daniel Hill wrote:
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 So I was reading over the old archive of xkcd's blag, and found this:
 http://blag.xkcd.com/2009/04/27/a-problem/
 (read the comments lots of bash tips)
 
 just wondering if anyone know's any neat tricks and what not for linux
 I wrote this one the other day: WARNING THIS NEEDS ROOT
 AND ASKS FOR IT (VIA SUDO), IT MAY NOT DESTROY YOUR
 COMPUTER I'M WARNING YOU AND I HEAR BY CLAM NO
 RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAMAGE CAUSED
 
 it will also erase any file called speed test.txt in the current running
 directory
 code
 FILE=speed tests.txt; cp /dev/null $FILE; for i in `echo /dev/sd?
 | sed s:/dev/::g` ; do LINE=Disk:/dev/$i ; LINE=$LINE `sudo
 hdparm -t /dev/$i | grep Timing | awk ' {... print $11 $12 } ' `;
 LINE=$LINE `sudo fdisk -l /dev/$i | grep Disk /dev/$i | awk '{
 print $3 $4 }' | sed s/,//g `; echo $LINE  $FILE ; done
 /code

This is just weird in a coupla ways...

1. Why use sed to remove the /dev/ of the device name, then manually put
it back every time you use it?

2. Why append output to $FILE line by line when you can just redirect
the output of the for loop in one go?

Steve
 
 - --
 python -c print \\.join([
 \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
 for i  in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )
 
 http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
 msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
 xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
 http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
 https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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Re: Neat, Crazy, Cool, scripts

2009-08-26 Thread Daniel Hill
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 This is just weird in a coupla ways...

 1. Why use sed to remove the /dev/ of the device name, then
 manually put it back every time you use it?
I think at one point before the final version I wanted to use it with
out /dev/
oh well I learnt how to use sed with / with out using this sed
's/\/dev\///g'
 2. Why append output to $FILE line by line when you can just
 redirect the output of the for loop in one go?

I actually don't know, and I'm not sure how the ... got in to the
awk comand either

#!/bin/bash
for i in  /dev/sd? ; do
echo Disk:$i ;
sudo hdparm -t $i |
  grep Timing |
  awk ' { print $11 $12 } ';
sudo fdisk -l $i |
  grep Disk $i |
  awk '{ print $3 $4 }' |
  sed s/,//g;
done  speed test.txt

yeah that is a lot simpler
at one point I was going to write it in python, but realised how
annoying it is to use the subprocess module to launch the commands
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Re: clug domains - renewal time again

2009-08-26 Thread Daniel Hill
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 Its a shell server - nothing flash.  Most users here have linux
 boxes of their own, but sometimes a host outside the network can be
  helpful for testing, or some users like James just don't have a
 linux box.

 More news in the new month.



that would be useful I have many times wanted to test my port forwarding

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Re: Can someone tell me why...

2009-08-26 Thread Kerry Mayes
I'm using the development version of Exaile (via bzr) and the latest
version has the ability to set the audio sink to:
Automatic
GNOME
ALSA
OSS
PulseAudio
JACK



2009/8/25 Rex Johnston g...@sclnz.com:
 Daniel Hill wrote:

 http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Jack_(plugin)

 Ooh, i can has cheezburger?

 Thanks Daniel, i'll give it a whorl.

 Cheers, Rex



Re: Neat, Crazy, Cool, scripts

2009-08-26 Thread Stephen Irons


Daniel Hill wrote:

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So I was reading over the old archive of xkcd's blag, and found this:
http://blag.xkcd.com/2009/04/27/a-problem/
(read the comments lots of bash tips)

just wondering if anyone know's any neat tricks and what not for linux
I wrote this one the other day: WARNING THIS NEEDS ROOT
AND ASKS FOR IT (VIA SUDO), IT MAY NOT DESTROY YOUR
COMPUTER I'M WARNING YOU AND I HEAR BY CLAM NO
RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAMAGE CAUSED

it will also erase any file called speed test.txt in the current running
directory
code
FILE=speed tests.txt; cp /dev/null $FILE; for i in `echo /dev/sd?
| sed s:/dev/::g` ; do LINE=Disk:/dev/$i ; LINE=$LINE `sudo
hdparm -t /dev/$i | grep Timing | awk ' {... print $11 $12 } ' `;
LINE=$LINE `sudo fdisk -l /dev/$i | grep Disk /dev/$i | awk '{
print $3 $4 }' | sed s/,//g `; echo $LINE  $FILE ; done
/code

- --
python -c print \\.join([
\\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
for i  in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )

http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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For those who read the blag article, and wondered what that 'cowsay' 
pipeline near the end of the comments does:


$ cowsay STACK OVERFLOW | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n

__
/  __  \
| /  __  \ |
| | /  \ | |
| | |  STACK OVERFLOW| | |
| | |  | | |
| | | \   ^__^ | | |
| | |  \  (oo)\___ | | |
| | | (__)\   )\/\ | | |
| | | ||w || | |
| | \ || ||/ | |
| |  --  | |
| | \   ^__^ | |
| |  \  (oo)\___ | |
| | (__)\   )\/\ | |
| | ||w || |
| \ || ||/ |
|  --  |
| \   ^__^ |
|  \  (oo)\___ |
| (__)\   )\/\ |
| ||w ||
\ || ||/
--
   \   ^__^
\  (oo)\___
   (__)\   )\/\
   ||w |
   || ||
$




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OT: software or hardware problems

2009-08-26 Thread Daniel Hill
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So I've been having some weird behaviour with my computer
some programs seam to hang for 30s for no apparent reason
running Java on the realtime kernel for ubuntu caused a hard lockup
reported it as a bug here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/419469
before realizing the same thing happened after playing some games in
windows instead of running java

The question I want to know is a 250w power supply enough to power my
computer
AMD64 3200+ (over clocked to 2.5GHz)
ATI Radeon X800XL
3 SATA drives
2 ram sticks
(calculated my usage at about 230w)

I once was running a 500w power supply but it blew up, and I had a
spare 250w around
and it seems to be running fine for like 3 months

- --
python -c print \\.join([
\\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
for i  in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )

http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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Re: OT: software or hardware problems

2009-08-26 Thread John Carter

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Daniel Hill wrote:


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So I've been having some weird behaviour with my computer
some programs seam to hang for 30s for no apparent reason
running Java on the realtime kernel for ubuntu caused a hard lockup
reported it as a bug here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/419469
before realizing the same thing happened after playing some games in
windows instead of running java

The question I want to know is a 250w power supply enough to power my
computer
AMD64 3200+ (over clocked to 2.5GHz)
ATI Radeon X800XL
3 SATA drives
2 ram sticks
(calculated my usage at about 230w)


Run memtest86 to check mboard and ram or shunt huge files around until
you can reliably reproduce the bug.

Disconnect two of the SATA drives and see if the problem goes away.

Drop the clock rate on that poor  chip.

Improve the cooling dramatically via something and test if it isn't
going dippy because the overclocking is overheating it.




John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz
New Zealand



Re: OT: software or hardware problems

2009-08-26 Thread Roger Searle
If you are fairly consistently having issues where you weren't before 
with the previous power supply and would like to test for a few days via 
a spare 400W one I have sitting under my desk then feel free to get in 
touch and collect.


250W is rather small . . .

Roger


Daniel Hill wrote:

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So I've been having some weird behaviour with my computer
some programs seam to hang for 30s for no apparent reason
running Java on the realtime kernel for ubuntu caused a hard lockup
reported it as a bug here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/419469
before realizing the same thing happened after playing some games in
windows instead of running java

The question I want to know is a 250w power supply enough to power my
computer
AMD64 3200+ (over clocked to 2.5GHz)
ATI Radeon X800XL
3 SATA drives
2 ram sticks
(calculated my usage at about 230w)

I once was running a 500w power supply but it blew up, and I had a
spare 250w around
and it seems to be running fine for like 3 months
  


Re: OT: software or hardware problems

2009-08-26 Thread Daniel Hill
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 Run memtest86 to check mboard and ram or shunt huge files around
 until you can reliably reproduce the bug.
If I'm not getting the correct voltage I would believe that the
ram/cpu/mboard would act up so I'm thinking I would have to test it
with another power supply for a comparison, but I will run memtest86
tonight

 Disconnect two of the SATA drives and see if the problem goes away.


 Drop the clock rate on that poor  chip.

 Improve the cooling dramatically via something and test if it isn't
  going dippy because the overclocking is overheating it.

this the CPU has been running like that for about 2 years now and the
fan looks pretty clear and the CPU fan has never gone above
1000RPM(idle speed I think) during stress tests

ok so I'm 80% sure that it's the power supply, 3.3V is running at
3.09V (0.045V below ATX spec)

- --
python -c print \\.join([
\\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
for i  in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )

http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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Re: OT: software or hardware problems

2009-08-26 Thread Craig Falconer

Yep - Comparing PSU wattage is like comparing fruit and veges, in the dark.

Here are some real numbers:

PSU Rating 430W enermax something fairly decent in brand.
Using a watt-meter on the mains side, I measured a maximum of 97 watts 
of power during boot


My firewall is a P3 500 compaq sff with a 130W PSU, and my meter 
measured 11W of power continuous.



Wattage doesn't change comparing 230V to 12V - the current increases as 
 the voltage drops.Wattage = Voltage x Current




Roger Searle wrote, On 27/08/09 13:46:
If you are fairly consistently having issues where you weren't before 
with the previous power supply and would like to test for a few days via 
a spare 400W one I have sitting under my desk then feel free to get in 
touch and collect.


250W is rather small . . .



Daniel Hill wrote:

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So I've been having some weird behaviour with my computer
some programs seam to hang for 30s for no apparent reason
running Java on the realtime kernel for ubuntu caused a hard lockup
reported it as a bug here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/419469
before realizing the same thing happened after playing some games in
windows instead of running java

The question I want to know is a 250w power supply enough to power my
computer
AMD64 3200+ (over clocked to 2.5GHz)
ATI Radeon X800XL
3 SATA drives
2 ram sticks
(calculated my usage at about 230w)

I once was running a 500w power supply but it blew up, and I had a
spare 250w around
and it seems to be running fine for like 3 months
  





--
Craig Falconer



Re: OT: software or hardware problems

2009-08-26 Thread John Carter

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Daniel Hill wrote:


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Run memtest86 to check mboard and ram or shunt huge files around
until you can reliably reproduce the bug.

If I'm not getting the correct voltage I would believe that the
ram/cpu/mboard would act up so I'm thinking I would have to test it
with another power supply for a comparison, but I will run memtest86
tonight


I recommended memtest86 xor shunt files around for two reasons...
 * so you can get a fast reliable check of did that fix it?
 * hardware can go flaky for many reasons other than power supplies.



Disconnect two of the SATA drives and see if the problem goes away.



ok so I'm 80% sure that it's the power supply, 3.3V is running at
3.09V (0.045V below ATX spec)


That's why I suggested disconnecting the two extra drives quickest
way of getting a little extra juice.


John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz
New Zealand



Re: OT: software or hardware problems

2009-08-26 Thread Daniel Hill
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 ok so I'm 80% sure that it's the power supply, 3.3V is running at
  3.09V (0.045V below ATX spec)

 That's why I suggested disconnecting the two extra drives
 quickest way of getting a little extra juice.

the SATA drives are connected to the power supply via molex
connectors, which don't supply 3.3V, would that actually have an effect?

- --
python -c print \\.join([
\\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
for i  in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )

http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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