Re: PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread Chris Hellyar
If you're a debian/ubuntu user manually install the phpdoc package from 
sarge ?


Roy Britten wrote:

I'm working on a PHP app running on a server running an older version
of PHP (4.1.something IIRC).

My google foo has failed me and I can't locate PHP documentation for
anything but the latest release. Does the list's collective wisdom
know where copies of the PHP documentation for older versions can be
found? Manually filtering out everything since 5.x is a trial.

Thanks,
Roy.

  




RE: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Payne, Owen
Do you need to reserve seats/space or is it first come first seated etc?


-Original Message-
From: Rik Tindall [mailto:a...@infohelp.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, 5 October 2009 4:31 pm
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

Thanks Roger,

Confirming this event now.

Yes, it's an inimitable performance that RMS always gives..

Roger Searle wrote:
 Having heard RMS speak last year, I would highly recommend this event 
 to everyone.  I hadn't known too much about his philosophies or 
 technical background, nor had I paid too much attention to free or 
 Free or GNU/Linux etc.  I spent a little time investigating prior to

 his speech last year and am much wiser for having done so.  He is an 
 excellent speaker, intelligent, eloquent, entertaining, and of course 
 is a geek of the most high order (and I'm far from being worthy).  I'm

 putting next Tuesday in my calendar now.

 Will confirm once we're ready to spread the word, but the RMS 
 Ch-ch extra speaking date will be: Tues 13 October

Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
Time: 17:00-19:00
Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk

+ topic to be defined soon.

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Kind regards,
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Re: Backing up server?

2009-10-07 Thread Solor Vox
I would also like to point out you should *never* backup SQL databases via
file method while running.  You either have to shut down the SQL server and
backup the files, or use another tool such as mysqldump/pg_dump/etc. to dump
the live data.

You should know that tar will not get other important things such as
partition table and boot sector.  You could add a (dd if=/dev/sda
of=/tmp/mybootsec.dd bs=512 count=1) and then add /tmp/mybootsec.dd to your
tar.  An even better way would be to use sfdisk and dump the partition table
to a file.  Then it can be restored on a different sized disk.   Be aware
that tar does not support ACL (Access Control Lists), so if you're using
them, then you need to use fgetacl and dump a list.  Or can use enhanced
star.  I would also recommend you avoid grabbing the dynamic system
directories such as /proc, /dev, /sys, and /dev/shm.  A little known and
seldom used feature of GNU/tar is incremental backup feature, (-g) that is
very helpful.

One final note about direct filesystem access.  In Linux, not everything you
see is the current state of the OS.  For example, if service X opens a data
file, and something deletes that file, it will be missing on the filesystem
to all new processes.  But the original service X can continue to use it and
run as if it wasn't ever deleted as long as it doesn't close the file
handle.  This can cause consistency problems if the backup is on a running
server.  Safest method is to shut down the service, backup, then start
again.  But that may not be an option for you.

You can use dd for entire disk backup as well.  However, this doen't lock
the disk from use on a running system.  (dd if=/dev/sda
of=/mnt/smbmount/serverbackup.dd)  I'd highly recommend a gzipped pipe if
you are sending over a network or on USB drive as throughput is an issue.
(dd  if=/dev/sda | gzip -9  /mnt/smbmount/serverbackup.dd.gz)  As a bonus,
if you wipe your free space with zeros before this, then gzip will compress
all free space out of the backup and save a lot of room.

This may seem like a lot of information, but use what fits your needs.  If
you have SQL databases, go for the *dump commands.  If you're just grabbing
user data, then tar/rsync are good tools.  If you want an easy system
backups, try using a program such as BackupPC
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/

cheers

sV

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Craig Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nzwrote:

 Bryce Stenberg wrote, On 02/10/09 16:53:

 First question –  is it right that ‘tar’ does not need to run using
 ‘sudo’, as in it can still access all the files?


 Wrong - tar is a running process that has the same file access as the user
 it runs as.  If you run it as root, you can read all files.
 If it runs as a user, it can only read the files they'd have access to.  If
 you're starting it from cron, its likely you're running as root.

  Secondly, does it backup all open files as well?  (in windows ntbackup use
 to choke on open files)


 Depends... a file that is opened read/write should be skipped, but a file
 opened read-only will backup okay.

  And this brings me to the other type of backup

 ... windows backups

 Firstly you need to decide what you require from the machine if it was
 rogered.

 1   User data
 2   email
 3   sql databases
 4   /etc
 5   /root
 6   /usr/local
 7   /opt
 plus a list of installed packages, and anything else critical.

 OR you can do some kind of rsync backup to another machine with a large
 drive and use that to restore.

 RAID1 is good, and disks are cheap enough these days.



 --
 Craig Falconer




Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

Thanks Roger,

Confirming this event now.

Yes, it's an inimitable performance that RMS always gives..

Roger Searle wrote:
Having heard RMS speak last year, I would highly recommend this event 
to everyone.  I hadn't known too much about his philosophies or 
technical background, nor had I paid too much attention to free or 
Free or GNU/Linux etc.  I spent a little time investigating prior to 
his speech last year and am much wiser for having done so.  He is an 
excellent speaker, intelligent, eloquent, entertaining, and of course 
is a geek of the most high order (and I'm far from being worthy).  I'm 
putting next Tuesday in my calendar now.


Will confirm once we're ready to spread the word, but the RMS 
Ch-ch extra

speaking date will be: Tues 13 October


   Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
   Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
   Time: 17:00-19:00
   Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
   Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk

+ topic to be defined soon.

--
Kind regards,
Rik Tindall



Re: Backing up server?

2009-10-07 Thread Craig Falconer

Bryce Stenberg wrote, On 02/10/09 16:53:
First question –  is it right that ‘tar’ does not need to run using 
‘sudo’, as in it can still access all the files?


Wrong - tar is a running process that has the same file access as the 
user it runs as.  If you run it as root, you can read all files.
If it runs as a user, it can only read the files they'd have access to. 
 If you're starting it from cron, its likely you're running as root.


Secondly, does it backup all open files as well?  (in windows ntbackup 
use to choke on open files)


Depends... a file that is opened read/write should be skipped, but a 
file opened read-only will backup okay.



And this brings me to the other type of backup

... windows backups

Firstly you need to decide what you require from the machine if it was 
rogered.


1   User data
2   email
3   sql databases
4   /etc
5   /root
6   /usr/local
7   /opt
plus a list of installed packages, and anything else critical.

OR you can do some kind of rsync backup to another machine with a large 
drive and use that to restore.


RAID1 is good, and disks are cheap enough these days.



--
Craig Falconer



Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

Nick Rout wrote:

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:



Will confirm once we're ready to spread the word, but the RMS Ch-ch extra
speaking date will be: Tues 13 October, ~7.30pm.



what do you mean extra
  


RMS is a keynote speaker at Chch Town Hall, 1pm 12 October:

http://www.lianza.org.nz/events/conference2009/index.html

On Saturday morning he told Kim Hill that he tries to have his hosts allow for 
public access to such speeches - for admission, check with LIANZA?




Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

David Merrick wrote:

A pity about the time. As A1 is a big lecture theatre you could sneek
in the back stairs without causing too much interruption
  


True.

http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/theuni/maps/


  Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
  Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
  Time: 17:00-19:00
  Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
  Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk
  


More tour info:

http://info541.sim.vuw.ac.nz/blogs/rms-2009-new-zealand-visit-schedule/

http://www.iscr.co.nz/n526.html

http://www.lianza.org.nz/events/conference2009/speakers.html

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday

with Kim Hill 8am - Midday, Audio from Saturday, 03 October 2009

Richard Stallman: digital freedoms 
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/sat/2009/10/03/richard_stallman_digital_freedoms 


   Software freedom activist and developer, visiting here for events
   including delivering the keynote address on copyright vs community
   at the LIANZA conference. (duration: 39'23)
   Download: Ogg Vorbis
   
http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20091003-0905-Richard_Stallman_digital_freedoms.ogg


Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
 Hi CLUGees,

 Is there anyone subscribed here who is university-based?

 Assistance is required to arrange a meeting space for a talk that
 Richard Stallman is offering to do here in Christchurch, three weeks
 from tonight.

 Or at CPIT, or any other locale suggestions?

 Cheers, Rik



is there any update on this talk?


Backing up server?

2009-10-07 Thread Bryce Stenberg
Hi all,

 

I've been playing with our Ubuntu server this afternoon, checking out
how to back up the system to a windows share.

I've got that going using tar and smbmount.

First question -  is it right that 'tar' does not need to run using
'sudo', as in it can still access all the files?

Secondly, does it backup all open files as well?  (in windows ntbackup
use to choke on open files)

 

And this brings me to the other type of backup

 

On our windows servers we use backup software that utilises the windows
'Volume Shadow Copy' service to take 'snapshots' of the entire disk at
one point in time.

These backups are sector based disk images.

Before the snapshot is taken databases are blocked for writes and
buffers written to disk so as they are in a consistent state on disk for
when snapshot is taken.

Once the snapshot is taken (about 10 seconds), the disk and databases
are returned to normal operation and the backup proceeds against the
snapshot (while the backup is happening, if disk changes occur the
volume shadow service points the backup to a copy of how the disk was at
the snapshot time, not what it has become now).

 

On Linux - I see there are equivalent types of backup to a point in
time, does anyone have any recommendations?

( I found this one: 'Hot Copy (hcp)'
[http://www.softarea51.com/linux/System_Utilities/File_Disk_Management/R
eview-Hot_Copy_hcp_for_Linux.html]  but maybe there are others that are
better?).

 

By the way - I won't see any replies until Monday now as off home -
thanks for your opinions.

 

Regards,

Bryce Stenberg

IT Department

Harness Racing New Zealand Inc   

 




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Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Wesley Parish
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009, Tim Buchanan wrote:
'fraid so.

 Hi all,

 Just tuned in halfway thru this conversation, is this at Cant Uni?

 Cheers
 Tim

 On 10/6/09, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
  David Merrick wrote:
  A pity about the time. As A1 is a big lecture theatre you could sneek
  in the back stairs without causing too much interruption
 
  True.
 
  http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/theuni/maps/
 
Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
Time: 17:00-19:00
Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk
 
  More tour info:
 
  http://info541.sim.vuw.ac.nz/blogs/rms-2009-new-zealand-visit-schedule/
 
  http://www.iscr.co.nz/n526.html
 
  http://www.lianza.org.nz/events/conference2009/speakers.html
 
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday
 
  with Kim Hill 8am - Midday, Audio from Saturday, 03 October 2009
 
  Richard Stallman: digital freedoms
  http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/sat/2009/10/03/richard_stallman_
 digital_freedoms
 
  Software freedom activist and developer, visiting here for events
  including delivering the keynote address on copyright vs community
  at the LIANZA conference. (duration: 39'23)
  Download: Ogg Vorbis
 
  http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20091003-0905-Richard_Stallman_digi
 tal_freedoms.ogg



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-
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tell them what an Ocarina really is: 
an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. 
-
Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
You ask, what is the most important thing?
Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
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Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

Nick Rout wrote:

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
  

Thanks Roger,

  Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
  Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
  Time: 17:00-19:00
  Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
  Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk

+ topic to be defined soon.



Shame whoever is organising these things doesn't seem to realise that
some people work until 5.00pm
  


It's end-of-term, so the place shuts down after we leave..

Also, it's an official CompSci Seminar now, which resolves quite a few 
issues.


I hope people can get along to most of this long session (and still have 
their evening free).


These are the finalised details going into publicity from today:


Event Name: A free digital society

To make a digital society worthy of being included in, we must
overcome six menaces to freedom: surveillance, censorship, restricted
data formats, proprietary software, software as a service, and the War
on Sharing.


Bio: Richard Stallman

Richard Stallman launched the development of the GNU operating system
(see www.gnu.org) in 1984. GNU is free software: everyone has the
freedom to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes
either large or small. The GNU/Linux system, basically the GNU
operating system with Linux added, is used on tens of millions of
computers today. Stallman has received the ACM Grace Hopper Award, a
MacArthur Foundation fellowship, the Electronic Frontier Foundation's
Pioneer award, and the the Takeda Award for Social/Economic
Betterment, as well as several honorary doctorates.



Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread David Merrick
Try this email address Richard Lobb richard.l...@canterbury.ac.nz,
lecturer at Cant University Computer Science or this one
comp...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz

Cheers dave

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
 Hi CLUGees,

 Is there anyone subscribed here who is university-based?

 Assistance is required to arrange a meeting space for a talk that
 Richard Stallman is offering to do here in Christchurch, three weeks
 from tonight.

 Or at CPIT, or any other locale suggestions?

 Cheers, Rik



 is there any update on this talk?




-- 
David Merrick

merrick...@gmail.com

Ph   03 3423 121
Cell 027 3089 169


PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread Roy Britten
I'm working on a PHP app running on a server running an older version
of PHP (4.1.something IIRC).

My google foo has failed me and I can't locate PHP documentation for
anything but the latest release. Does the list's collective wisdom
know where copies of the PHP documentation for older versions can be
found? Manually filtering out everything since 5.x is a trial.

Thanks,
Roy.


Re: Maybe OT - printing aerial photos

2009-10-07 Thread Dan Wallis
On 30/09/2009, goldedge golde...@clear.net.nz wrote:
 Hi Nick,
   there's an add in for firefox that lets you select and capture
 the portion of the screen that you want to copy rather than the whole
 screen, sorry I don't have the name to hand at the moment (screen snip
 or similar), you'll need to search the firefox extensions.

 It works well and may do what you want.

Screen Grab
http://www.screengrab.org/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1146

It's a good tool. :)


konqueror - saving column widths

2009-10-07 Thread Roger Searle
Hi, using konqueror 4.3.1 for file management, I can set up and save 
various profiles, containing multiple tabs, with various columns added 
or removed from the details view etc.  However I can't find any way to 
save the width of these columns.  Does anyone know how to go about doing 
this so that it is retained in a profile?  Drawn a blank so far with google.


Cheers,
Roger


Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall


Will confirm once we're ready to spread the word, but the RMS Ch-ch 
extra

speaking date will be: Tues 13 October, ~7.30pm.


Woops. Another possible time would be 5pm to 7pm.

We should know tomorrow.


Re: xubuntu loading desktop problems

2009-10-07 Thread T e o D

cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 7.04 \n \l

Rik Tindall wrote:

Hi Victor,

T e o D wrote:


I got a problem when I am trying to start up my Xubuntu machine..


Which version are you running? e.g. is it 9.04?

Regards, Rik





Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Don Robertson

 is there any update on this talk?


And do you need any help with anything?


Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
 Thanks Roger,

   Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
   Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
   Time: 17:00-19:00
   Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
   Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk

 + topic to be defined soon.

Shame whoever is organising these things doesn't seem to realise that
some people work until 5.00pm


Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Buchanan
Hi all,

Just tuned in halfway thru this conversation, is this at Cant Uni?

Cheers
Tim

On 10/6/09, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
 David Merrick wrote:
 A pity about the time. As A1 is a big lecture theatre you could sneek
 in the back stairs without causing too much interruption


 True.

 http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/theuni/maps/

   Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
   Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
   Time: 17:00-19:00
   Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
   Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk


 More tour info:

 http://info541.sim.vuw.ac.nz/blogs/rms-2009-new-zealand-visit-schedule/

 http://www.iscr.co.nz/n526.html

 http://www.lianza.org.nz/events/conference2009/speakers.html

 http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday

 with Kim Hill 8am - Midday, Audio from Saturday, 03 October 2009

 Richard Stallman: digital freedoms
 http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/national/sat/2009/10/03/richard_stallman_digital_freedoms

 Software freedom activist and developer, visiting here for events
 including delivering the keynote address on copyright vs community
 at the LIANZA conference. (duration: 39'23)
 Download: Ogg Vorbis

 http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20091003-0905-Richard_Stallman_digital_freedoms.ogg



Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Roger Searle
Having heard RMS speak last year, I would highly recommend this event to 
everyone.  I hadn't known too much about his philosophies or technical 
background, nor had I paid too much attention to free or Free or 
GNU/Linux etc.  I spent a little time investigating prior to his speech 
last year and am much wiser for having done so.  He is an excellent 
speaker, intelligent, eloquent, entertaining, and of course is a geek of 
the most high order (and I'm far from being worthy).  I'm putting next 
Tuesday in my calendar now.


Cheers,
Roger



Rik Tindall wrote:


Will confirm once we're ready to spread the word, but the RMS Ch-ch 
extra

speaking date will be: Tues 13 October, ~7.30pm.


Woops. Another possible time would be 5pm to 7pm.

We should know tomorrow.



Re: xubuntu loading desktop problems

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

Hi Victor,

T e o D wrote:


I got a problem when I am trying to start up my Xubuntu machine..


Which version are you running? e.g. is it 9.04?

Regards, Rik


FOSS users meet Weds 7 Oct

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall
What: Free  Open-Source Software user group  Ubuntu GNU/Linux-based 
tuition


Where: South Learning Centre, South Library, 66 Colombo St, Beckenham 
(use rear door)


When: Wednesday 7 Oct, 7.30pm-9.30pm, = 1st Weds monthly

Cheers, Rik


Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

Payne, Owen wrote:

Do you need to reserve seats/space or is it first come first seated etc?
  


The latter. 320 capacity. A few seats spare last year.


Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
Time: 17:00-19:00
Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk
  


Re: Backing up server?

2009-10-07 Thread Don Robertson

Solor Vox wrote:
I would also like to point out you should *never* backup SQL databases 
via file method while running.  You either have to shut down the SQL 
server and backup the files, or use another tool such as 
mysqldump/pg_dump/etc. to dump the live data. 

Nice MySQL Backup script.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/automysqlbackup/
This may seem like a lot of information, but use what fits your 
needs.  If you have SQL databases, go for the *dump commands.  If 
you're just grabbing user data, then tar/rsync are good tools.  If you 
want an easy system backups, try using a program such as BackupPC 
http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/


cheers

sV
I have been using Bacula (http://www.bacula.org/en/) but I have been 
hearing a lot about BackupPC recently. Bacula has a lot of features, and 
can run scripts such as the one above before backing up, but you need to 
restore from the command line - which some people don't like. I have 
recovered so infrequently I don't remember the command.


BackupPC appears to have a much nicer and useful GUI.

don



Re: PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread David Merrick
Try http://nz.php.net/docs.php in documentation changelog. PHP should
be  the same wether you are using Linux or windows

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Roy Britten roy.brit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm working on a PHP app running on a server running an older version
 of PHP (4.1.something IIRC).

 My google foo has failed me and I can't locate PHP documentation for
 anything but the latest release. Does the list's collective wisdom
 know where copies of the PHP documentation for older versions can be
 found? Manually filtering out everything since 5.x is a trial.

 Thanks,
 Roy.




-- 
David Merrick

merrick...@gmail.com

Ph   03 3423 121
Cell 027 3089 169


Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread David Merrick
A pity about the time. As A1 is a big lecture theatre you could sneek
in the back stairs without causing too much interruption

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
 Thanks Roger,

   Room: A1 Lecture Theatre [Arts block]
   Date(s): Tuesday, 13/10/2009
   Time: 17:00-19:00
   Booked For:  Richard Stallman talk
   Event Name:  Richard Stallman talk

 + topic to be defined soon.

 Shame whoever is organising these things doesn't seem to realise that
 some people work until 5.00pm




-- 
David Merrick

merrick...@gmail.com

Ph   03 3423 121
Cell 027 3089 169


Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

Thanks David, Nick and Don.

Emailing for use of UoC space now.

Will confirm once we're ready to spread the word, but the RMS Ch-ch 
extra speaking date will be: Tues 13 October, ~7.30pm.


Cheers, Rik

David Merrick wrote:

Try this email address Richard Lobb richard.l...@canterbury.ac.nz,
lecturer at Cant University Computer Science or this one
comp...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz

Cheers dave

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:
  

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:


Is there anyone subscribed here who is university-based?

Assistance is required to arrange a meeting space for a talk that
Richard Stallman is offering to do here in Christchurch, three weeks
from tonight

is there any update on this talk?



Kiwi PyCon Media Statement - How a programming language is changing the Web

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Knapp
NEW ZEALAND PYTHON USER GROUP
Media Statement  October 5, 2009
IMMEDIATE RELEASE

How a programming language is changing the Web

The main keynote speaker at Kiwi PyCon 2009, Joel Burton, an
internationally recognised trainer and presenter, will explain how the
programming language Python is becoming the language of choice for
developing websites due to its simplicity and flexibility. The
conference will be held at the Canterbury Innovation Incubator in
Christchurch on November 7th and 8th.

Other tracks at the conference will include: GUI, Science  Math, Game,
and Applications. The conference will also have a dedicated Web track,
which will include presentations about many Python web technologies,
such as: Django, Twisted, Zope 3, Grok, and Plone.

The conference has attracted a lot of interest from many universities
throughout the country and staff and students from Auckland, Massey,
Canterbury, and Otago universities will be presenting regarding how
they've used Python in their research.

“As Christchurch has the reputation of being the Silicon Valley of New
Zealand, its been really great to see a number of electronics companies
in Christchurch support the event”, said Tim Knapp, the conference
Director. Tait Electronics, a radio communications manufacturer, is a
Gold sponsor for the event.

“The positive response we've received from the IT community in New
Zealand has been really encouraging” commented Mr. Knapp. “Really, no
matter what industry your business is in, this conference will be of
benefit to you.”

Registration closes on October 23rd and registrations are limited. For
more information visit nz.pycon.org.

---Ends---

For media or conference enquiries please contact:
Tim Knapp, NZ Python User Group Vice President and Event Director
Phone: 021 156 6405
Email: kiwipy...@nzpug.org
Website: nz.pycon.org



Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:
 Thanks David, Nick and Don.

 Emailing for use of UoC space now.

 Will confirm once we're ready to spread the word, but the RMS Ch-ch extra
 speaking date will be: Tues 13 October, ~7.30pm.

 Cheers, Rik

what do you mean extra


 David Merrick wrote:

 Try this email address Richard Lobb richard.l...@canterbury.ac.nz,
 lecturer at Cant University Computer Science or this one
 comp...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz

 Cheers dave

 On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Rik Tindall a...@infohelp.co.nz wrote:


 Is there anyone subscribed here who is university-based?

 Assistance is required to arrange a meeting space for a talk that
 Richard Stallman is offering to do here in Christchurch, three weeks
 from tonight

 is there any update on this talk?




Re: xubuntu loading desktop problems

2009-10-07 Thread Rik Tindall

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:34:15 +1300, T e o D liasi...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 cat /etc/issue
 Ubuntu 7.04 \n \l

Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was released on April 19th, 2007 and is no
longer supported. It is recommended to upgrade to the current version of
Ubuntu. - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty

Can you download and burn off 9.04 from here? - http://www.xubuntu.org/get







mailing list problems...

2009-10-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
I've just received, in one lump, the last few days posts to the list...
23 emails. Does the list owner read the list, and can he tell me what's
happening?

Cheers, Steve



Re: PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Roy Britten roy.brit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working on a PHP app running on a server running an older version
 of PHP (4.1.something IIRC)


I'm guessing its intentional. Its a ReallyBadIdea™  developing *new *PHP
apps in a version of PHP that is now

   1. Note-worthily old.
   2. Officially unsupported.
   3. No longer supported by any of the major players ( by this I mean
   varying PHP libraries )


For the love of sanity for yourself and your peers, do please seek out
migrating to the Lastest And Greatest and Least Vulnerable PHP 5.3.

You'll really thank yourself later.


-- 
Kent


Re: PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 02:14 +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:

 For the love of sanity for yourself and your peers, do please seek out
 migrating to the Lastest And Greatest and Least Vulnerable PHP 5.3.
 
 You'll really thank yourself later.

Given that CentOS 5 delivers 5.1.6, and even Ubuntu 9.04 only delivers
5.2.6, I beg to differ.

Not much point developing code you can't deploy anywhere (:

Steve




Re: PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread Roy Britten
 I'm guessing its intentional. Its a ReallyBadIdea™  developing new PHP apps
 in a version of PHP that is now

Agreed, however this is just maintenance and extension of an existing app, and

 For the love of sanity for yourself and your peers, do please seek out
 migrating to the Lastest And Greatest and Least Vulnerable PHP 5.3.

oh, if only I had the option. It's neither my app nor my server, so
for now I'm stuck with what I've got.

The good news is that most of the servers we work with are reasonably
up-to-date.

Cheers,
Roy.


Re: PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, October 8, 2009 03:01, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 02:14 +1300, Kent Fredric wrote:

 For the love of sanity for yourself and your peers, do please seek out
 migrating to the Lastest And Greatest and Least Vulnerable PHP 5.3.

 You'll really thank yourself later.


 Given that CentOS 5 delivers 5.1.6, and even Ubuntu 9.04 only delivers
 5.2.6, I beg to differ.

 Not much point developing code you can't deploy anywhere (:

With PHP it's more a case of not much point developing code you
*shouldn't* deploy anywhere.

:)

A



Re: PHP documentation

2009-10-07 Thread steve
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 08:35 +0900, Andrew Errington wrote:
 eploy anywhere (:
 
 With PHP it's more a case of not much point developing code you
 *shouldn't* deploy anywhere.
 
 :)
 
 A
 
Behave (:
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Re: PhotoRec - A story with a happy ending

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Errington
On Thu, October 8, 2009 13:30, Douglas Royds wrote:
 My partner had accidentally deleted a wanted photograph from her camera.
 Enter PhotoRec:
snip

That'll be handy to remember!

I wonder, would it be possible to 'dd' the contents of the filestore and
run PhotoRec on the dd image?  This would guard against possible further
damage to the filestore, and also allow many different tools to be applied
to the 'original' data.

Anyway, glad to hear it was a successful outcome.

Andrew