Re: Response to OT posts (Re: wordpad.exe for W982E)
Carl Cerecke wrote: John Ascroft wrote: Isn't that a bit precious. The guy's in trouble, most of the list seem to run a copy of windows for one readon or another, get over it. Sure, the guy is in trouble, but I'd rather not see questions like that here. The list has quite a number of people now ( 250 I think). I am concerned (a bit paranoid perhaps?) that if we allow these sorts of inappropriate questions it will be the thin end of a wedge. Come on! The guy went to where he thought his friends were, seeking help. It's not as though we are inundated with such posts - more bandwidth has been wasted bitchin' about it! Adrian
Re: Response to OT posts (Re: wordpad.exe for W982E)
CF wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:30, Adrian Stacey wrote: My point is - which was worse? his OT question, or the way he asked it? Compare Can someone send me a copy of /usr/bin/pico - I deleted mine by mistake to My machine is broken - fix it for me to I broke my machine -...details... - what could I do to fix it Well, ever since my BBS days I've tried not to read ANYTHING into apparent attitude when it comes to email. Rearding asking for tha easy way out, I can understand this. Let's face it, some of us are so deep under the covers that we can do in seconds what others need an hour for. I am quite happy to hand over a solution as long as the guy take the trouble to learn next time. Still, as you say, he has all the information he needs now. Adrian
Re: block keyboard input
Nick Rout wrote: unplug it? Not a good idea. well on your way to blowing out a keyboard controller this way... :) Or at least, when you plug it back in...
Re: Wireless lan
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:23, you wrote: The main cost will probably be getting RMA/city-council consents for the transmitters. If the antenna is under 30 metres high, not needed. A friend on the hill is worth his weight in gold... Adrian
Re: Wireless lan
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:32, you wrote: If the antenna is under 30 metres high, not needed. How long ago did they change this rule? I don't think they ever did Chris, there has certainly ALWAYS been a lot of confusion in this area. I was working with an Auckland group who were planning on a radio network here prior to Radionet and Walker's coming on the scene, they were told that recource consent was required. I have an antenna on my roof here in Parklands, no concent required. Radionet (now Compass) and Walker Wireless have them everywhere :) The word to AVOID when dealing with Council, is MICROWAVE I think, if you just tell them the frequency and transmitter power, they don't panic. I think it is the transmitter power which determines if consent is required. Adrian
Re: Ugh
I'm guessing that Datacom will provide the Vaseline at no charge... Jason Greenwood wrote: Where do we get these people??
Re: MandrakeLinux-8.2-CD1.ppc.iso
Mike Beattie wrote: In fact, interestingly, the PowerPC chip was developed in partnership by Motorola and IBM. Big Blue has its fingers in a lot of pies. And there was even a version of OS/2 for it. IBM would happily supply it if you knew how to ask. Adrian
Re: OT very funny
Love the Linux one :)
Re: IPCop or Modem Problem?
Suggesting the obvious first, is the modem set to stay connected or DOD, the way you're using it requires the former. Horror to suggest but a simple winders box may be the best option to troubleshoot the connection... I tend to think the firewall shouldn't cause the problem. Adrian
Columbia
Our hearts go out to the seven astronauts of the shuttle Columbia, our thoughts are with their families. The price of exploration and advancement has been high for many - we salute them. Adrian
Re: PCMCIA settings
May be just anecdotal but my feeling is Slack is experiencing a bit of a revival. I use it because I always have but primarily on inet servers. Just did a minimal CLI install on a Compaq 4000, all the usual inet services at just over 185MB (Slackware 8.1) I have had the complete install on a Thinkpad with all the bells and whistles (P300) runs very well, some issues with the mwave modem before I am happy with it though... Adrian
Re: Fwd: Re: There Will be a CLUG - (was There is no CLUG)
Col wrote:
I have one ( trying to learn bash scripting )
Is there an easier/better way for a user to obtain ppp0 ip address than
IP=$(netstat -rn | grep UH | cut -d -f1 | head -n 1)
IP=$(netstat -rn | grep UH | awk '{print $1}')
Adrian
Re: Sendmail
Gareth Williams wrote: [and now for something a little less 'political'] Also, I understand it's not good to run sendmail if you don't have it properly configured (even if it was configured as an open relay though, for argument sake, it's behind a firewall). Still, this is my first time playing around with sendmail (or any MTA for that matter) and I'd like to learn good practices - advice from any sendmail wizards on the list would be most welcome :-) http://www.abuse.net/relay.html Will test pretty much everything... Adrian
OT - Shape of things to come
http://wwws.sun.com/software/insidesun/0103_insidetrack.html This is the commercial version of course but indicative of a commercial world that might make me happier s Adrian
Re: laptop schmaptop
If you want to spend $25 on the adapter kit (laptop to PC HD mount and connections) from Dick Smith... Use the cabling part to connect laptop HD to PC - Bob's yer uncle. Adrian
Re: laptop schmaptop
Steve Bell wrote: The laptop with 48 Mb Ram probably doesn't have the balls to run KDE... ? Or am I wrong? IMHO, pound for pound, laptops outperform PC's of the same spec...
Re: bah
Agree, Hot days I just work nights... C Falconer wrote: Working on 3 january is not particularly enjoyable. And the AC is shut down *sigh*
Re: Open Source Technology Centre
Joshua Collins wrote: I have a copy of windows 98 that i bought floating round somewhere that I could donate. Is that still lega? i dunno... but if u're interested i'll try hunt it out I have a Win 95 upgrade still in the box - still wrapped. I think it is win95A though...
Re: Open Source Technology Centre
David Kirk wrote: I have a Win 95 upgrade still in the box - still wrapped. I think it is win95A though... I don't think I can use an upgrade version unless you have a version of Windows 3.1 to upgrade from. Windows 3.0 or later AND DOS 3.3 or later OR OS/2 2.0 or later. Of course, IBM now have the rights to 16bit winders so what can you do? Of course, being M$ it requires proof of upgrade eligability, which is why it stayed in the box and was never used. 'Twas then that I went out and bought OS/2 2.11 - never looked back s Just checked, I still have images for win286 (seven disks)... Adrian
Re: Open Source Technology Centre
Nick Rout wrote: I almost thought win 3.11 was now freely available to download, although I'm not sure of the license. If so, it will be available from IBM and is more likely to be win 3.1 windows for workgroups (3.11) is still controlled by M$ _*I believe*_ This was the reason OS/2 Warp4 was so much cheaper than Warp3 with WINOS/2, IBM no longer had to pay licencing fees to M$ Adrian
Re: Signature generator
Google, use linux mail signature generator to search, it pulls up a few :) There are still some winders ones but you can skip those s Adrian Mark Carey wrote: Hi, I am trying to write a simple perl script, that writes a text file in my home directory for evolution to pick up as an email signature. Now I am being picky and want to be able to include plain text formatting (carriage returns) in the quotes it will append to my standard signature information, so having a database file with one line per quote is not going to work, does any one know of an existing tool or am I writing from scratch. Mark
Re: ADSL - Jetstart - ISPs
cha93 wrote: www.maxnet.co.nz $32 + Telecom fee. No Data or Bandwidth cap. The latest from Compass is 5GB cap and $30 per month from 1/1/2003 Unlike their radio performance currently in Christchurch, ADSL is excellent... Adrian
Re: Colour ink printer experience with Linux?
Nick Rout wrote: That was quite a good post until we got to the spam^h^h^h^h plug Why no smiley there, Nick? I thought after supplying that much GOOD info, he was entitled to a little plug for his missus... :) Adrian
Re: My questtion on Distributions
Christopher Sawtell wrote: About a year ago the Auckland equivalent of the Polytech disposed of several hundred. These could have well been the ones, about the right time and they originated in AK. Adrian
Re: Anyone got the raffle tickets?
Nick Elder wrote: I got some more this morning. regards, Wot? More Kids? That was quick!
Re: Anyone got the raffle tickets?
David J Porter wrote: Thay are also a constant source of stress, and their up time after booting is way worse than even my windows box! According to W C Fields (I think) they taste nice; broiled...
Re: Time Servers
Hi Peter, Hmmm, yes I am seeing updates with ntpdate... The messages in the log for ntpd don't seem to show any problems, maybe I should rtfm again... Adrian
Re: What do you use BroadBand for?
Michael Beattie wrote: There aint nuttin' that can make light go faster than the speed of light. Sadly, it's a fact that traversing the pacific is going to take a little time. Nothin' to do with it! The holes in the wires are getting smaller and smaller and this is REALLY slowing down the system. These octipus fibre things are worse cos the holes are even smaller again... :(
Re: Anyone got the raffle tickets?
Nick Rout wrote: I took them home. my son played with them, he thought they made good movie tickets when his mates came round to watch some vids or something. IIRC it was $1.00 for the book. I'll reimburse you :-) sorry about that chief. This is why I never had kids; they keep you poor :)
Re: Anyone got the raffle tickets?
Nick Rout wrote: actually more than half of them had been used, so presumably we wouldn't get another night out of them ! Half the Kids?
Re: Distributions
Nick Rout wrote: Ok, I'm pleased you've had agood experience with upgrades. Its not the impression I have had. Its good to see. Maybe cos I'm an old fart and I use Slack but I still avoid upgrades like the plague... New HD plus new install - only way to go s Adrian
Re: Distributions
Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: Just look on this list for CD burning requests. Tangentially speaking, just picked up some Dick Smith CD-R's, spindle of 10 for $8.00 Must confess, I didn't do a big search to find the best price but that seemed good to me... Dick Smith branded Imation 700MB 48x Adrian
Re: Distributions
Michael Beattie wrote: Don't get me wrong, I think using CD's is a perfectly valid activity, I just find the concept boring, and a little wasteful. ok, CD-RW has fixed that a little. A! CD-RW, CD's burnt/burned... So Mike, you don't wanna pay for bandwidth and you don't wanna buy CD distros??? You do realise I'm funnin' ya I hope s I was just gonna say, you wasn't around in the real 'puter days with 300 baud modems was ya vvbg ? Adrian
Re: Distributions
Johnno wrote: The old 300 Baud that was one of my fast modems on a comodore 64 then a 386, then went to 1200 baud, 2400 baud, 33.6 baud... Those was the good old bbs days.. :) And what about 1200/75 and Deskview on a SINGLE floppy... AD
Re: Distributions
Michael Beattie wrote: No, I see it as more of a personal attack about being some form of tight ass. perhaps it's a bit late, and I'm shitty cos ST:TNG is late on prime tonight. Late as in, 15 minutes so far, after scheduled start. I hate The Bill. Now me being a Trekker from way back, I just sat down with a mug of tea and watched The Bill, patiently awaited the start of ST:TNG, watched that (I've got most of the TNG episodes on VHS but I still prefer it off-air because I *AM* AN OLD FART...) then peacfully came back here to carry on abusin' folk :-) Now I'm gonna order that new HD so I can upgrade my main server, oh and I think I'll pick up a DVD reader so I can rip some DVD videos onto VCD, now that I've got the Dick Smith blanks, see, I use CD as well ;) So like I said, if you took it as a personal attack, please accept my apologies. Regards, Adrian
Re: Bandwidth [OT] (Was: Distributions)
Yuri de Groot wrote: No company will ever lay cable to rural areas unless bound to do so by some contract with the gummint (e.g. kiwishare). Telecon won't bother with adsl in rural areas. TelstraClear wouldn't be able to justify laying hundreds of km of cable per potential customer. TC can't even find me a solution yet s Parklands was supposed to be coming real soon now. Adrian
Re: Bandwidth [OT] (Was: Distributions)
Just thought, isn't Telecom doing something re: broadband in conjunction with some Farmers' Group or other?
Re: Bandwidth [OT] (Was: Distributions)
Steve Bell wrote: I have heard of a something under testing and development (in NZ) at present - I heard it referred to as darklining, which I understand is using power lines to carry high speed internet access with the purpose of supplying high speed access cheaply to rural customers. I am sure something similar (data tx/rx not inet) was used over the National Grid in UK. If memory serves the only issue was secondary radiation from pylons disrupted aircraft navigation - it was a fixable thing though... Adrian
Re: Bandwidth [OT] (Was: Distributions)
Justin Soong wrote: I wen to the compass website, nothing about radionet service. I'm on Jetstart but want to escape datacaps and i would like more speed. Ihugs ultra lite plan went down, and i'm still waiting for thier 2 way satellite service. Me neither, if you go to www.radionet.net.nz, I THINK you will be pointed back to Compass, if you use the old 0800 warpspeed phone number you are advised to call 0800 640840 which is Compass. You may jus need to know what to ask for. Cost of radio is high, look at around 20 cents per MB plus GesTapoTax... Radionet do ADSL Jetstart or whatever it is called now for $20 plus GST no cap (at the moment) may still be available. Your cost is $29.95 to Telecom for ADSL and $22.50 to Radionet/Compass for authorisation and data, $52.45 all up. If you ask Compass you might get but remember this plan WAS a Radionet one and may not now be available. Adrian
Re: My questtion on Distributions
Michael Beattie wrote: But all that is about MacOS 10.0 (Yes, I agree, MacOS stinks. OSX on the other hand, kicks royal booty - I still prefer linux though) I agree. Actually I like Macs... OS8 was/is fine... Missed the chance at getting an ex-lease G3 for around $500 sd. Patiently waiting to see if if opertunity repeats. Adrian
Re: Distributions
Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: I've been using them for a while now, no coasters, seem quite nice, only can get them to write at 32x for some odd reason. Well my grunty old semi-commercial CopyStar Duplicator only writes at 4x anyway... I see in todays junkmail that Harvey Norman are still dirt cheap... Can't remember what the price was though. Adrian
Re: Distributions
Nick Rout wrote: Aren't you missing something? Like the time it takes to download the iso before writing it to cd? Hey I forgot one point... It takes three days for Slackware to send me 4 CD's s Adrian
Re: Bandwidth [OT] (Was: Distributions)
Justin Soong wrote: I'm already on jetstart, why is NZ broadband plans sooo high. I'm a home user who wants a flat rate high bandwith and no caps! Don't we ALL want that, remember, your high bandwidth, no cap traffic is going to gost someone up stream about 10 cents per MB :) So you're on Jetstart, fine, Telecom provide you with the ADSL connection for $29.95, nothing to with the ISP, you can shop around for those. Many do Jetstart, prices and caps vary... The Radionet one I gave you of $22.50 is the best I have found and there is no cap. If you want more than 128kbs then sorry, you will be paying more serious money. Adrian
Re: Bandwidth [OT] (Was: Distributions)
Paul wrote: actually jetstart is limited to 5GB a month .. Depends on the ISP... Which one are you quoting?
Re: Bandwidth [OT] (Was: Distributions)
Lance BLACKLER wrote: Should all be doable - but may be costly Most things are - most things are :(
Re: POP vs. IMAP - Was Re: OT: Good, Free, POP accounts.
Helmut Walle wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 06:00:35PM +1300, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Actually, you can choose between flushing your mailbox, or keeping the retrieved messages on the server with POP, too. The big difference is that with POP you have to retrieve a complete message to obtain any header info like sender or subject, while with IMAP you can take a look at the header info without wasting bandwidth for downloading the message body. You can do this with POP too if you use Pegasus Mail, unfortunately, no Linux version and never likely to be : Adrian
Re: How does one hotwire an old pSU?
David A. Mann wrote: Yes you're exactly right. I had rather a nasty shock last year when I ended up closing the circuit across nearly 20,000uF still charged to somewhere around 400VDC. No harm done, but its the kind of thing that makes you sit up think. Many years back, on board ship, I had my head stuck in an alarm panel... Said panel was 110VDC and fuse-holders were mounted on the door. The ship rolled, door swung closed and said fuse-holders (on about 100mm centres) contacted the back of my head. That made me sit down and I'm sure I stopped thinking for a while... I blame this for all my shortcomings since s Adrian
Re: Ease Of Install
Tomo Brown wrote: Hi list users, Please share all experiences ( I know I have a few ;-) ! ). Well I'm still a sucker for Slackware s Currently using 8.1, install is a breeze though still text based, no problems to report but that may change as I try installing on a Thinkpad... Adrian
Re: Ease Of Install
Yuri de Groot wrote: Currently using 8.1, install is a breeze though still text based, nothing wrong with text-based, and text-based is in _no_ way inherantly more difficult than gui. Never said there was, I prefer it, don't even use GUI in Slack yet, starting to look at it for the TP though... Adrian
Re: OT: Good, Free, POP accounts.
Nick Rout wrote: whats wrong with your ISP? Many provide more than one pop account these days. Enough for the whole family! Well the good ones do s I give five for a flat-rate account...
Re: What do you reckon?
Zane Gilmore wrote: REPORT SAYS LINUX HAS MORE SECURITY FLAWS THAN WINDOWS Well I just loved this bit: Microsoft applications have made significant progress in avoiding virus and Trojan horse problems, according to CERT. The number of such advisories peaked in 2001 at six, but none were posted during the first 10 months of 2002. Virus and Trojan horse advisories for Unix, Linux and open source software went from one in 2001 to two in the first 10 months of 2002. There you have it, Unix/Linux problems DOUBLED, while it appeard M$ fixed ALL their problems... Yeah, right. (Two positives do make a negative) I feel, if written correctly, the first paragraph would be: ...problems. According to CERT, the number... Adrian
Re: Modem Driver Search
Paul wrote: Diamond Multimedia Systems Supra express 56e Pro Now I am pretty damn sure this is an external modem... So no driver needed. The driver for extenal modems (and the earlier ISA modems) was really just a file of AT commands. S Adrian
Re: Ot: El Cheapo Ram 128mb $67
Ben Devine wrote: 128MB PC133 SDRAM 8-Chip SAVE $20.00 (normally $87.00) Offer valid for a limited time only. Cat No. XH7429 NZ$67 Better price is $63.73 for 3 or more, $59.99 for 5 or more and $56.03 for 10 or more, (all inclusive) vbg Adrian
Re: HAM modem
Vik Olliver wrote: On Sun, 2002-11-17 at 08:09, Ben Devine wrote: I'm very positive about the Terminator, and I'm sure you'll understand that I'm doing this on its merits as a Linux product. While you and I can go out and put something similar together at a slightly lower cost, the general public generally can't. Well, Vik, I wouldn't try to put one together at the price of the Terminator... Adrian
Re: Meeting reminder
Michael Beattie wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:48:46PM +1300, Chris Hellyar wrote: I've got the front porch for it already, and a nice shady courtyard if the sun is too hot :-). Hmm. I have all of that except the porch oh, and the server isnt really that grunty. I'll go one better... my servers are in a rack in the basement (garage really). In fact, I've currently got a digital camera on loan from the shop next to work, so I'm getting this all onto a webpage. Rack? Luxury, mine are just stacked up on top of each other, I dream of a rack... Adrian
Re: uname
Chris Hellyar wrote: I'll play this game... Me too vbg Linux ragnarok 2.4.18 #4 Fri May 31 01:25:31 PDT 2002 i586 unknown
Re: Dick Smith Linux Systems
Paul wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 08:21, Paul wrote: Oh, I see. I think it's measured in beers... Ah the Universal Currency of non-Islamic nations. One or two Islamic nations too vbg Adrian
Re: Dick Smith Linux Systems
Peter Cornelius wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:21:15 +1300 I paid more than that to upgrade an old PC so that I could have a play with Linux.) Upgrade! To play with Linux! What was it, a 286? VVBG
Re: uname wank
Paul wrote: Linux noname.nodomain.nowhere 2.2.5 #1 Sat Apr 3 21:49:22 MST 1999 i686 unknown Well, at least it works, which is more than the NT box did s Adrian
Re: Dick Smith Linux Systems
Vik Olliver wrote: On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 11:38, John Stephens wrote: You'd be surprised how many hits on my distillation-without-a-still site are from that part of the world! http://olliver.family.gen.nz/schnapps.htm Schnaps doesn't need to be aged,but it is wise to at least let it cool! I guess you need to tell Kiwi's this s I just scored a glass laboratory still from a good friend... Not only would it make a good table centre piece, it should produce some good grog, although small quantities, just 2 lires g Adrian
Re: How to create a short-cut icon on KDE desktop - Was: Re: Microsoft OS's for free?
Peter Cornelius wrote: Adrian followed up with: I have said before here, wanna see OS/2? Get XP... It's what one might expect since M$ wrote OS/2. Well, M$ stole OS/2 :) Remember the OS/2 boot loader error messages in NT? If OS/2 was so much easier to use than Linux, and OS/2 didn't catch on, what hope Linux . Well actually it did catch on, look at Germany... I have always maintained that IBM dropped apparent support for OS/2 simply as a ploy to leave M$ carrying the monopoly s Those who knew where could still get updates to OS/2 and you could still buy it if you knew the part number, IBM didn't advertise it. In the meantime, IBM found Linux and didn't look back : But that's only the ramblings of a conspiracy theorist from way back :) Adrian
Re: How to create a short-cut icon on KDE desktop - Was: Re: Microsoft OS's for free?
Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: Multi-tasking doesn't imply multi-user, OS/2 did a fine job of multi-tasking, was stable as hell, I would wager more secure than linux and as far as cost is concerned I bought Warp 3 for $30 when I was a student at Uni, doesn't get much cheaper than that. Plus it'll run win32 and dos apps fine out of the box. Ran Win16 OOTB :) But stable, YES, uptimes in years. People would actually forget they had OS/2 machines acting as servers. Oh, I'd wondered where that was... from someone who just discovered a printserver in a cupboard. Warp 4 upgrade, std price $205 if I remember correctly, full version was $330 but most used the upgrade - no nasty tricks from IBM, as far as they were concerned EVERYTHING was an upgrade :) Adrian
Re: How to create a short-cut icon on KDE desktop - Was: Re: Microsoft OS's for free?
Christopher Sawtell wrote: I tried to load a genuine licenced Warp-4 onto an old '486 the other day, and it bombed. It should run OK, I had Warp4 on a 486 running three BBS nodes...
Re: thursday 14h november meeting...
Andrew Errington wrote: Actually, most of the Kiwis are pretty bad at speaking English. I mean what's with the funny accent... /ducks It's not a freakin' accent, it's a freakin' dialect... :) Adrian (Who is getting bored waiting for Radionet to fix their freakin' network...)
Re: Debian and KDE 2.2.2
Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: Microsoft stuff is only bloated because people demand backwards compatibility with ancient dos apps and new features that no one will use... thankfully with 2K and XP they're starting to drop a lot of that crap and now their stability has come up dramatically. Only reason for stability improvement is that XP is a rebadged OS/2 VBG
Re: Peanut Linux?
Ronald Highet wrote: I have just purchased a 20gig drive for my laptop and need some info on how to transfer my Linux partition onto the new drive. Do you have a desktop you can use? If so - physically easier. OR can you fit both HD to notebook? Some have room for two. Some you can dangle outside... For desktop, you will need std IDE to 2.5 HD kit. Dick Smith has them with mount for around $25 each. If you want the hassel, Computer and Data Cabling Services in Wordsworth Street will have just converter cable. Heck, you may even find HW at Uni... Jumper, connect, add remove disks according to your setup and how you will proceed. Now read: http://www.ssc.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html Easy As...
Re: Linux +
Nick Rout wrote: Agreed, look in the obvious places before you ask. I know of someone on this list that posted a question recently. He told me at the last meeting that he hadn't yet looked anywhere for the answer as he was far too busy. He obviously thought other people had time to do his research for him. He wasn't a newbie either!! It annoyed me a little. But at the same time, I think it is quite legitimate to ask in this manner where you are pressed for time, after all, many other people have done what you are attempting. I have done this myself on occasion though I would say that I expect people to point me too a good reference start point rather than to just give me the answer. Adrian
Re: Routes and Stuff
Andrew Kemmy wrote: Assuming that : route add -host [mail_relay] [gateway] isn't what you want Nope, we mail direct not through a relay.. there is a possible solution at : http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.netfilter.html - uses ipchains to mark all outgoing port 25 packets, and iproute2 to route them. This might be the way... Problem with this is any other processes generating port 25 outbound traffic will use this route too. Not a problem as ALL mail should go out on the free route, inbound is another story and I will tackle that later with a pinhole through the router and nsupdate. Thanks for the thoughts... Adrian
Re: Routes and Stuff
Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: If you can use your isp's smtp server for relaying, configure a smart host in your sendmail.cf, create a static route to the ip of that smtp server via your preferred default. Hehe! Overlook the obvious s as an ISP I tend to forget that my upstream is actually MY ISP - yes that will work, thanks. Adrian
Re: Proposal for MIPEs
johnrose-simpson wrote: John Simpson butting in: At the risk of starting another of those tedious I remember when sagas. I can recall loading the a program into the 16 kb of ram in my TRS80 from an audio casette recorder took so long that I could mow the lawn while I waited, only to come back and find that the very critical volume control setting had been knocked and the whole process had to be done again. Those were the days, my lawns have never been so well groomed. And remember when most cassette decks wouldn't let you adjust the head azimuth? Adrian
Routes and Stuff
Can any of the list's networking experts suggest how I might configure so that sendmail (for instance) will route outgoings via a route OTHER than the default? The sendmail deamon is used for outbound mail only and should route via a.a.a.a while all other deamons/processes should use default d.d.d.d (You've guessed it, the default route is expensive!) If it is possible, methods or pointers to resourses equally well received s TIA Adrian
Re: CLUG Meeting Wednesday 2nd October-trouble shooting
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Why don't we explicitly invite said mother along for the evening? She'd then see that we are not the kind of people who would do her son any harm, and she just might have an interesting evening out. Now that's desperate... g,dr
Re: List Reply behaviour
Dean McIntosh wrote: Safe??!? You are talking about Women here. Thank somebody (God maybe) that my partner doesn't read these things. I found the only true answer was divorce... It had almost been so long that I had forgotten what freedom was s. Now that I can spend my money on any kit I like, I find that I have no money left. Well, I'm told it was fun! Adrian PS: That is freedom from fear of reprisal (of course).
Re: Reminder/peeve - change the list back!!
Nick Rout wrote: My vote (registered in previous discussions too) was for setting the reply to the list. I am aware of the arguments to the contrary, but thats my preference ok? Me too :) Though it is no big deal using reply all and deleting, I'd rather not have to do it... Adrian
Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?
Peter Cornelius wrote: Oxford Concise Dictionary, 1925 - which also mentions 'computers', but I'm not sure how they were programmed. Some things were even before my time!) Something to do with Kindly Cabbages I believe...
Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?
David A. Mann wrote: Back in my day all we got was Slackware on 3.5 floppies... if we were LUCKY! I dream of usin' Slackware s I see that that which will be Slackware 9 is available :) Adrian
Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?
Yuri de Groot wrote: Back in _my_ day we had to enter it in as 1s and 0s. Sometimes we didn't even have 0s and had to make do with Os. Mind you, we had to walk thru fifty miles of snow ... I had to etch it onto a ferrous oxide coated platter with a magnetized needle :( Adrian
Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?
Andrew Tarr wrote: Right. We had to get up at half-past midnight, half an hour before we went to bed... And tell the young'ns o' today that - and they won't believe ya...
Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?
C Falconer wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 05:18, Andrew Tarr wrote: We coded in minix using paper tape which we would have to make out of our own reference manuals, which management would buy for us yearly, but only if we denigrated ourselves in front of them From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]: Not terribly PC that, was it?
Re: Distros... can anyone hear me?
Peter Cornelius wrote: I had to etch it onto a ferrous oxide coated platter with a magnetized needle :( Linux? Unix? Paper tape? What's wrong with cutting the holes in a card with a penknife? (And that's actually what I was actually doing one New Year's eve until the operator took pity on me and reminded me of the time by puting a half a pint in my hand to drink in the New Year - 196x I was too tired to recall how deep the snow was.) Hey! I not THAT old ; BTW, were you doing this before or after you were sent to get a Long Stand?
Re: CLUG Meeting Notes 29th August 2002
Christopher Sawtell wrote: with a possible appearance of the rotund gentleman in a red suit one afternoon during December. So after having to put up with the Evil Empire from Redmond, you now want to foist the Coca-Cola mascot on us vbg In the interest of those with the Linux filosofie close to our hearts, I think this should be a skinny chap in a green suit... Adrian
Re: BOFH excuses WAS Ye Olde Meeting
Nick Rout wrote: BOFH excuse #377: There is/was a newsgroup (sorry, can't remember what it was), frequented by the best of Sys Admins s As long as you don't actually show your ignorance by posting, reading it is quite entertaining - endless BOFH and luser stories... If you do post, you get flamed spineless vbg Adrian
Re: OT: Coolest PC case yet.....
Jeremy Bertenshaw wrote: Undoubtedly, this would make the coolest linux box ever! Hehehe, luved it! On a serious note: http://www.bdt.co.nz/computer/docs/ezgo/414010.asp Bit pricey but...
Re: OT: Coolest PC case yet.....
Yuri de Groot wrote: Good to see I'm not the only dutch guy on this list :-) Worse, I'm a Brit... close enough to learn from the Scots :)
Re: IP to Country Mapping
Nah! Lo rabble... Michael Beattie wrote: On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 01:01:22PM +1200, Adrian Stacey wrote: Hmm... I suppose if I really try I could get us noticed vbg Hi Echelon! Mike.
Re: IP to Country Mapping
Hmm... I suppose if I really try I could get us noticed vbg Drew Whittle wrote: Errr, I'm glad NZ isn't on the list: In the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, iDEFENSE compiled a list of IP addresses mapped to countries that the US Department of State identified as harboring terrorists. :D On Tue, 2002-06-04 at 10:43, Eddie Correia wrote: Don't feel bad. South Africa (country of 40 million) isn't on there either.
Re: Linux vendors to standardise on one distribution
V K wrote: One could argue that IBM blew it :) Even now I do not exactly get the impression that IBM is interested in taking on Microsoft. Megabigservers maybe, but that's not exactly MS's core business. I don't see IBM offering anything up to scratch on the desktop market (yet anyway, tendency steeply downhill). Of course I'd like to be put right... I always felt there was more to this than met the eye. IBM pulled support for OS/2 at a very critical time if you consider Judge Jackson's findings; right at the critical moment, there was no commercial competition to winders. Up to last year, you could still purchase OS/2 and updates are still freely available from IBM... Adrian
Re: Meta-topic, was Suggestion : For Sale Mailing List
C Falconer wrote: One word - unsubscribe I've always felt that the amount of OT traffic is minimul, at leaset you target like-minded folk. I see no problem with it - just at the moment, I wish I had some spare cash vbg Adrian
Re: Almost converted...
Robert Fisher wrote: snip Well I've always believed there is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. I know it's old and hairy but if you don't ask, you don't learn. I am sure I speak for most here if I say that no one objects to answering even the most basic of queries. I'll even go as far as to say that some of the answers to these early 'what the...' questions are even useful to the more experienced user. Just my 3 cents... Adrian
Re: Almost converted...
Julian Carver wrote: Personally I really like new users with new (and old) questions. There are so many reasons: Well, I normally hate, 'me too' posts but this one deserves it :) Adrian
Re: Almost converted...
Given the speed of your reply, Nick, I wonder if steering my daughter toward studying for a law degree was a good idea... H... maybe it was vbg Adrian Nick Rout wrote: Well, I normally hate, 'me too' posts but this one deserves it :) Adrian me too (hell Adrian, you asked for that LOL)
Re: Almost converted...
Ben Aitchison wrote: For instance, I want to figure out what country an AS number is in, without doing mass whois querys. Like for instance: % whois -h whois.apnic.net AS9800 Will tell me that that AS number is in China. I'd like to be able to (say) block all of China from accessing my SMTP port for instance. I've got a BGP dump of prefixes to AS numbers, so that I can figure out what IP subnets belong to which AS number. Heheh, that reminds me of when I wanted to find a way to determine which IP's were local (NZ) and which were international. After Waikato stopped issuing the router dumps, I gave up... :( Adrian
Re: 802.11 and distributing linux around chch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-May-2002 C Falconer wrote: Those putting up antennae might be wise to consider the effect of lightning on their thousands of dollars worth of sensitive interconnected computer gear. There doesn't even have to be a direct hit - the EMP and large ground potential gradient caused by a nearby strike can be surprisingly damaging. (Something I have observed first-hand.) FWIW, we have had some reasonable storms over Christchurch over the last two years, Radionet (my supplier for the moment) has lost only one unit, atop the Clarendon I believe. As always, I keep my fingers crossed. At my end of the last mile, my only problem has been water ingress :( Adrian
Re: RH 7.2 to 7.3 upgrade
Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: In 8 years of working with Linux I had to reinstall only in the very old days of Slackware which didn't know about upgrades (but that was at least 6 years ago!) I tend to reinstall my Slackware systems, for basic inet servers it doesn't take too long and it is surprising how much gets fixed that I didn't know I'd broken :) With the price of har drives at the moment, I normally do the install on a separate drive and then bring across the files I need, any disaster and it is only a matter of seconds before the original can be running again... Adrian
Re: 802.11 and distributing linux around chch
Ian Burgess wrote: actually 182.88 metres. the older people would appreciate that this standard was ratified years ago. 10base2 is 200 yards. 10base5 is 500 yards I've told you millions of time, 2 decimal places is NOT enough... :)
Re: Dial-up and large files...
As an ISP, I'd probably have to kill you. But as an aside, would Jetstream Startup be applicable? $29.95 to Telecom and shop around for an ISP, lowest cap is 5GB I believe with some at 7GB and 10GB... Uncapped even but I keep those secret : Adrian Chris Hellyar wrote: Hi-ho, Just following on a bit from my comments about dial-up being a better idea for cheap large scale downloads... Here's a bit of a copy'n'paste from the logs on my 'server' machine. Just to show I'm silly enough to practice what I preach. (Silly because I've got access to a fast internet pipe at work)
Re: Dial-up and large files...
Chris Hellyar wrote: From: Adrian Stacey As an ISP, I'd probably have to kill you. :-)... As a customer I'd have to say that it is an 'all I can eat' Heheh, that's why I have an abuse it and lose it clause :) Must read the Xtra Terms of Service and see what they say... I believe they are not too good. I remember one iHug user was threatened he would be treated as a leased-line customer if he didn't buck up :) For my part I don't have DSL within 40km of here, and I'm trying to set an example for my staff by not abusing the councils frame relay connection. But to think on for a moment, the best wholesale price I can find for international bandwidth/traffic is around 5 cents per MB at around 512kbit/s, I have to pay much more because I only move about 5GB per month, with only about 30 users, it pays the bills. I feel sorry for the ISP's who are on the DSL train, with (the now) Jetstream Starter - the ISP has to supply the bandwidth. Even with a 5GB cap such that xtra have introduced, a $35 per month user can cost around $50 to service (some have higher caps). True, these ISP's will have a purchase plan for an agreed minimum so in many cases will only be using unsold bandwidth so they at least recoup some cost. But it wouldn't take much of an increase for them to find themselves in dire straights :( Adrian
Re: Dial-up and large files...
See my musings to Chris, could be some of the ISP's won't be around too long. I believe one in Kapiti Coast has just gone down, I am guessing the Jetstream Starter did for them. Adrian Nick Rout wrote: But as an aside, would Jetstream Startup be applicable? $29.95 to Telecom and shop around for an ISP, lowest cap is 5GB I believe with some at 7GB and 10GB... Uncapped even but I keep those secret : Adrian I have jetstart (as it was previously called) through paradise at home and the 10G monthly limit allows me plenty of downloading at (generally) pretty close to the 128k maximum. Thats about 2 1/2 to 3 times a 56k modem speed (I am doing approximations here ok?). Especially as NZ traffic only counts at 1/10th the rate. IE I could do 100G per month if it was all in nz (and was physically possible). Given that paradise and other nz sites house the major distros now, all is sweet :-)
Re: 802.11 and distributing linux around chch
Drew Whittle wrote: Over a clear line of sight, with short antenna cable runs, a 12db to 12db can-to-can shot should be able to carry an 11Mbps link well over ten miles. 24/7/365 in all weather... I'm not really interested in what can be acheived at a pinch with the wind behind me, that's for weekends when I'm having fun :) And clear line of sight with short antenna cable runs is a *bit* restrictive isn't it? Certainly wouldn't work here... Seriously this insistance that because it's commercial it must be better is like advocating that windows is better because it is commerical. This seems to be a problem with you, not me. At least *I* am sure I never said anything of the sort ;) And for saying windows you can just damn well wash your mouth out with soap... Adrian
Re: 802.11 and distributing linux around chch
Heheh, and you can have some fun doing it! I was once going to give my neighbours a direct cat5 connection vbg At the other end though... At least one company went bust in Christchurch trying to do a radio network on the cheap, Walker Wireless took over the mess and dumped all the gear (I think they run with Wave Wireless from Lucent). Radionet also use Lucent gear here which is adequate, mind you, they have their problems too. Adrian Nick Rout wrote: Yes but VERY short range, Nick. Don't forget, I'm talking 5km here... OK I hadn't checked it out in too much detail. I did think of setting it up for my mate who just moved in over the road, sell on a bit of my jetstart connection. However the cost of two 802.11 cards, a box to put one of them in (I have a laptop for one end) and two cans of Pringles would pay for him to have a 56k connection, or his own jetstart connection, for quite a while LOL.
