[Fwd: Request to fill-in a questionnaire on Linux.]
Hi people, Ajith is doing a survey of Linux users see details below. Not sure why he thinks I am the President but if I am and no one told me then I hereby resign, the pressure was just too much! :-) Original Message Subject:Request to fill-in a questionnaire on Linux. Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:30:41 +1300 From: Ajith Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bjorn, I'm Ajith Kumar, IT Tutor at Bay of Plenty Polytechnic, Tauranga. I'm doing my Master's Thesis the topic is on migration of operating system from Microsoft to Linux. Since you are the President of the Canterbury Linux Users' Group, I was wondering if you'll be able to help me find a few Linux users to fill in my questionnaire, which is online. If I'm not asking for too much would you be able to pass on the information and ask your Linux user group members / friends / colleagues / acquaintances (who work on Linux) to spare 10 minutes to out my questionnaire? The questionnaire can be accessed by clicking the link: http://www.bcs.net.nz/~ajithk/MComp.htm. It shouldn’t take more than 10 minutes to complete it. Thanks in advance for your support, appreciate it. Regards, *** Ajith Kumar, IT Tutor, Bay of Plenty Polytechnic, Tauranga, New Zealand. Phone: (+64) 7 5440920 (Extn: 5591) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: Anti-Tip
very cool! Try the -scale option to make the font a more realistic size eg: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/phosphor -program /bin/bash Michael JasonSmith wrote: For some reason this gave me the giggles last night. Reading the manual for the Phosphor screen-saver I discovered that it is a full terminal emulator. To try it out I typed /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/phosphor -program /bin/bash maximised the window and sure enough, it is a usable terminal :)
Re: ADSL modem/switch/wireless combo with Linux
IMO a firewall/gateway should never be used as a data server, storing your valuable data on your first line of defense is crazy. All you need is low spec second hand PC for a file server. Don't forget backups, or at least software RAID. Cool. I've also realised that, when I get a second computer, I'm going to have to have some kind of shared storage (i.e. file server) for emails etc. I've heard that some of the ADSL/switch/wireless combo units also have a USB port for attaching a USB storage device which can then be accessed as a network file store. Is this a good route to take, or should I look at adding a proper stand-alone server? If so, can anyone recommend a server that is cheap, low power, small, and quiet.
Re: ADSL modem/switch/wireless combo with Linux
I can recommend the Linksys WAG54G, I have installed quite a few of these. Linksys also is involved with Open Source, their WRT54G runs Linux and there are some great custom firmwares out there for this unit. Carl Cerecke wrote: I'm looking at buying one of these modem/switch/wireless combos. I'm looking for recommendations. I want reliability and works-with-linux So far, the choices are: Linksys WAG54G Dynalink RTA770W Dynalink Z660-HW Netgear DG834G They are all about the same price. Cheers, Carl.
Re: ADSL modem/switch/wireless combo with Linux
That firmware is for the WRT54G not the WAG54G Paul Swafford wrote: Linksys are all good I have two myself and friends who have quite a number .. especially with the satori firmware .. you can easily mesh them into a wireless distributed network. Think neighbourhood wireless LAN. Regards Paul
Re: dual utp cable-end
This is what you need http://www.cdlnz.com/cdl.html?VS=pG=C-RJ45LT2P=NC802ID=1959711
Re: dual utp cable-end
I am guessing it is to give some confidence to the customer trying to work out what to buy. A digital phone (one that talks digitally to a pabx) has the same pinouts as analog. It should be noted that splitting a cat5 cable and running 2 devices over it will degrade performance due to crosstalk. Having said that I have had to do it quite a bit and have had no problems yet. Sorry about the link I had no idea it would not work. Please don't post deep-URLs into catalogues which don't work. http://www.cdlnz.com/productimages/pdfs/page039.pdf What's the difference between a UTP device and a digital phone, other than pinout? Which one is computer data? Volker
Re: OT - anyone else having roblems with the net today?
There is problems, http://networkstatus.telstraclear.co.nz/ has details Nick Rout wrote: On my paradise adsl link, cannot access the paradise home page, ihug home page or xtra home page. I can access, slashdot, demon.net (UK) and most overseas sites. my neighbours (on the same floor, xtra adsl) can ping my ip, but cannot get name resolution or access xtra's home page. for some reason their dns is set top paradise's dns servers. Seems like some sort of preering issue - anyone seeing anything similar?
Re: IMDB info
I have not tried it, but this may help http://www.imdb.com/interfaces Nick Rout wrote: At a recent meeting someone (was it Ben?) told me that they had a script to query imdb based on a file name or other movie info. Can whoever that was let me have some details please? FYI imdb.com is the Internet Movie DataBase
Re: FW: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Hi Margaret, Looks good, we are currently not running regular meetings, I think it would be best to change the Times/Meetings to Meeting times are posted on the mailing list. Other members may have further input, so I have CC'd this to the mailing list. cheers, Bjorn Hi, Are you able to help Cheers Margaret -Original Message- From:Pester, Margaret Sent:Monday, 15 March 2004 1:05 p.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Canterbury Linux Users Group Hello, I would like to update the CINCH record for the above organisation on our community database. If you visit the link below, this will lead you to the organisation's record. Would you mind checking and advising any additions and alterations by completing our online update form: http://library.christchurch.org.nz/cinch/update/ http://library.christchurch.org.nz/Cinch/keyword.asp?LN++AAB-4725 Many thanks Margaret Pester CINCH Assistant Digital Library Services, Christchurch City Libraries PO Box 1466, Christchurch 8015 DDI: 03-941-7903 Fax: 03-941-7848 Web page: http://library.christchurch.org.nz/cinch/ ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Re: from the clug webpage...
Yes this is last year, I will remove them and put up to be scheduled until someone sends me some new dates. cheers, Bjorn - Original Message - From: anton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:51 PM Subject: from the clug webpage... snip Upcoming Meetings / Events Meeting times scheduled for 2003 Wednesday 29th January Thursday 13th Febuary Monday 31st March Wednesday 30th April /snip Has this just not been updated, or should that read 2004? I can't remember what last year's dates were... Cheers Anton -- Sent by the lovely Mozilla running MDK9.2 on an Athlon2000XP
Re: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning
- Original Message - From: Jaco Swart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:24 AM Subject: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning Prologue 2: And so, after a few months, I went forth and installed Linux free of charge on my new PC. But the Linux I choose, was Red Hat... So - which distro is still in the hands of geeks, not a set of wannabe-rich- kids? Debian or Gentoo would fit that description
RE: auto poweroff
When you run halt does you computer shutdown the turn off? If so then this is easy just use at to schedule the halt command. -Original Message- From: antonovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 September 2003 8:08 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: auto poweroff is there any easy way for me to set a timer (via an instruction or script) to poweroff? It would be good to be able to do this when leaving the machine going after long downloads or transcodes. Would it be easier to download some apps to handle this? If they exist what are they? Cheers anton
RE: freshmeat
I guess I was more getting at the irony of it all, I have a fair idea of the dynamics behind it as you have described. -Original Message- From: John Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 29 August 2003 11:49 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: freshmeat On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Bjorn Nilsen wrote: Since when did freshmeat.net start advertising microsoft products? http://aegir.valhalla.net.nz/~bjorn/fm.jpg Very depressing Not really, fresh meat probably just sources ads from an ad broker. ie. Web sites like freshmeat concentrate on producing content that gets eyeballs. Brokers concentrate on getting companies to pay for ads. The content provider and advertiser probably never talk, and/or never even know each other. At most the content provider can insist on not displaying certain classes of ads for example no porn. Freshmeat probably can't say no M$ to its broker, since it probably doesn't have a only good karma class of ads. Probably only porn / no porn. That's the banner biz for you, its all low margin and cut throat... John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Zealand A Million Monkeys can inflict worse things than just Shakespeare on your system.
freshmeat
Since when did freshmeat.net start advertising microsoft products? http://aegir.valhalla.net.nz/~bjorn/fm.jpg Very depressing
RE: Tux Case Badges
I have enough interest now to order 25 but I will wait until this evening before I place the order in case more interest. -Original Message- From: Bjorn Nilsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2003 10:22 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tux Case Badges Hi all, I want to order some Tux Case Badges from the web site below I can order 25 for $25.99 USD and free delivery. This works out to be be around $2 NZD per badge. I don't want all 25 so if anyone is interested please let me know off list, who knows I may need to order 50. http://www.securisysagency.com/linux_tux_case_badges.html Cheers, Bjorn
Tux Case Badges
Hi all, I want to order some Tux Case Badges from the web site below I can order 25 for $25.99 USD and free delivery. This works out to be be around $2 NZD per badge. I don't want all 25 so if anyone is interested please let me know off list, who knows I may need to order 50. http://www.securisysagency.com/linux_tux_case_badges.html Cheers, Bjorn
RE: Tux Case Badges
Those have a starting bid of $3.50 and are either tux on purple or tux on white with linux inside logo, I want just tux on white, maybe I am too fussy :) -Original Message- From: Chris Downie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2003 10:47 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tux Case Badges Don't forget to check www.trademe.co.nz as there are various Linux badges available almost all the time. Cheers, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I want to order some Tux Case Badges from the web site below I can order 25 for $25.99 USD and free delivery. This works out to be be around $2 NZD per badge. I don't want all 25 so if anyone is interested please let me know off list, who knows I may need to order 50. http://www.securisysagency.com/linux_tux_case_badges.html Cheers, Bjorn
RE: Tux Case Badges
Those have a starting bid of $3.50 and are either tux on purple or tux on white with linux inside logo, I want just tux on white, maybe I am too fussy :) or too cheap more like... True, I also have an unhealthy fascination with buying things online Also Tux on a purple background is just wrong :)
RE: Tux Case Badges
I got a Tux soft toy from thinkgeek.com, I am sure they still have them. I try to avoid that web site as there is so much cool stuff there. I will add your name to the list -Original Message- From: Jaco Swart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2003 2:55 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Tux Case Badges Those have a starting bid of $3.50 and are either tux on purple or tux on white with linux inside logo, I want just tux on white, maybe I am too fussy :) Yes, like them simple myself :-) If there are any left, I'd love to have one. BTW, where can I find a Tux soft toy? Want a companion for the ViewSonic parrot that my little girl organised from Computer Future :-)
Tux Case Badges now ORDERED
I have now ordered 50 units of Linux Case Badges - Tux White. I have had enough interest to feel comfortable doing this. I will have some spare so if there is any more interest let me know off list. Here is the list of orders so far: Steve Brorens 5 Lance Blackler 1 Nick Rout 5 Chris Noel 1 Tim Wright 5 Peter Elliott 2 Steve Dunford 5 Michael Pearce 2 Jaco Swart 1 Larry Smith 5 Peter Burke 2 And to think I was just going to order 10 for myself. Cheers, Bjorn
RE: Exchange server Re: Linux in schools
There is a tool called emerge that can export all mail boxes from an Exchange server to a PST. I used it about a year ago to migrate mail boxes from one Exchange server to another. I have a love hate relationship with Exchange, as a POP3/IMAP/SMTP server it is the pox! For collaboration it is the best I have seen bang for buck. -Original Message- From: CF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 12:49 p.m. To: Linux Users Group Subject: Re: Exchange server Re: Linux in schools On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 12:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having used, installed and cofigured exchange quite a bit in the past I can tell you that you are wrong on most counts below. :-) I take it you've done this in a business setting. You can create individual PSTs from each user Not for 1400 users I won't , or configure each computer to maintain a local copy of their mail in order to move email from one server to another, Only about 12 staff have their own computer - the rest are all shared. So the old business idea of One Person One Computer just does not work. let alone backing it up and restoring it en masse between exchange servers. PSTs can be imported into outlook regardless of the user or their existing email configuration. Outlook on P75s with 32 Mb ram? That would be like expecting Jamie Olliver to make a cullinary masterpiece using a Macdonalds kitchen. Moving outlook mail to something else, ie Mozilla, is a little more complicated, but is do-able by passing it into outlook express, then on to netscape / mozilla. Other apps exist for moving mail between other packages without resorting to individual forwarding. I think the question originally was more like how do I move EVERYTHING to some other mailserver Putting mail into a specific mail-reader application is not the end result required. Using Backup Exec with the exchange option you can delete / restore individual emails to/from tape. This is probably true for most decent backup packages. Yes - but schools don't have much money and decent backup packages cost a lot. We're still using NT4 server cos its too much to change to anything else. Indeed - my four linux boxes are backed up using home-grown scripts. From memory the built in backup package in Windows 2000 server will not allow this, but then its not really a 'real' backup package anyway (IMHO)... See above - 2000 is far newer than anything running here. Exchange is prety misunderstood, and takes a lot of flak. Its not really a bad package if you know how to use it (Something a lot of people say about Linux, too :) I retract my statement earlier about festering.. How about simply totally unsuitable for schools ? PS: I'm not a Microsoft advocate, but I hate to see people shooting MS down without a full understanding of the product they are attacking. I've never had any training on how to use exchange server - its too expensive. Do you see the problem? At least with an imap server running on a linux box I can ask google for help, and not come across the hire an MSCE stuff. On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 07:46, Terry Cole wrote: With all the MS problems/virus as well as Exchange problems I have been having.. Others can comment on the rest, but since I have an exchange server here and probably most of the problems you've had, I'll comment here. Exchange is a festering heap of fertilliser. There is no way to move all the existing mail from ES to any other mailserver other than forwarding all email manually. We have made a partial change - I run squirrelmail on the webserver (linux) which is a webmail/imap gateway, and that runs fairly well. Users will loose all the calendaring/schedualling/addressbook components of exchange server too, when you change to something else. But then - its impossible to restore a single email from a tape backup... you have to restore the lot to a scratch machine then forward it to the real server, so I have always told users to save important emails to disk. You might have to bite the bull's horns and change wholesale, loosing the old mail... which is going to be a real turn-off for users.
RE: SD - USB card reader ?
I like the look of that mp3 player, any chance of a CLUG discount? :) -Original Message- From: Jason Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:07 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SD - USB card reader ? Hi, Not entirely true. A lot of them do not strictly adhere to the USB mass storage protocol - thus the need for a driver disk in many cases. I have a packard bell 6 in 1 that I have never gotten working in Linux though others have I heard. I and a business partner have a new web site up and running which sells them (6 in 1 USB 2.0 Reader/Writers) online: http://www.flashcards.co.nz but I have not tried the new USB 2.0 ones we carry with Linux. I will let you know when I find out. As an aside, there was a discussion onlist about hardware personal ogg vorbis players. We have just brought in a shipment and will be adding them to the site soon. They play mp3, ogg and wma. That may be of interest to the list at some stage too. Cheers Jason PS, sorry for the shameless free plug. =) Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: Hello, My understanding is that _any_ SD - USB card reader should work (except for the secure part, I am not interested in) and should be seen as an ordinary USB mass storage device (similar to the CF - USB card readers). Am I right ? ... or wrong ? If I am wrong ... are there particular brand/models of SD USB readers which would work ? TIA Cheers,
RE: SD - USB card reader ?
Wow an ogg player, I am already sold! I think a music player that can play an open source codec is very relevant to this mailing list. By CF I assume you mean Compact Flash and those cards go up to 3 Gig. Imagine how many many ogg's you could store on that! Please let me know once you have the details online. -Original Message- From: Jason Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 5:17 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SD - USB card reader ? Absolutely!! I have not put the new ogg player online yet though. It looks slightly different to those online. It takes CF cards. I had planned on making an OT post to the list once the new ogg players were online. I am just confirming the firmware upgradeability for ogg before I put the product online. They will play MP3's, WMA's and Ogg's. We will pay your GST on certain products, like the ogg vorbis player. We will make some special bundles available too, maybe with CF cards included for a special price. We will decide once the things are online. Don't worry, we'll make it worth your while. Cheers J Bjorn Nilsen wrote: I like the look of that mp3 player, any chance of a CLUG discount? :) -Original Message- From: Jason Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 2:07 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SD - USB card reader ? Hi, Not entirely true. A lot of them do not strictly adhere to the USB mass storage protocol - thus the need for a driver disk in many cases. I have a packard bell 6 in 1 that I have never gotten working in Linux though others have I heard. I and a business partner have a new web site up and running which sells them (6 in 1 USB 2.0 Reader/Writers) online: http://www.flashcards.co.nz but I have not tried the new USB 2.0 ones we carry with Linux. I will let you know when I find out. As an aside, there was a discussion onlist about hardware personal ogg vorbis players. We have just brought in a shipment and will be adding them to the site soon. They play mp3, ogg and wma. That may be of interest to the list at some stage too. Cheers Jason PS, sorry for the shameless free plug. =) Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: Hello, My understanding is that _any_ SD - USB card reader should work (except for the secure part, I am not interested in) and should be seen as an ordinary USB mass storage device (similar to the CF - USB card readers). Am I right ? ... or wrong ? If I am wrong ... are there particular brand/models of SD USB readers which would work ? TIA Cheers,
RE: syncing files of FTP
http://freshmeat.net/projects/ftpsync/ Hi, I am developing a php application and I need to sync the source files on my local server with a test server. How should I do this? Cheers Paul
RE: ftp sync tool
http://freshmeat.net/projects/ftpsync/ Amazing what you find when you actually search for it -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2003 9:41 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ftp sync tool Nick Rout wrote: of course the original poster (whoever that was) may not have shell access to the ftp server, and may not be able to run rsync/unison there. This is true. No shell access (only ftp) tim On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:32:04 +0100 Jim Cheetham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:55:05PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: know if there is a tool which can sync between my current CVS module and the ftp server which is on the web. (similar to the ws-ftp sync-er) rsync beats the hell out of ftp. Very true. Unison also beats the hell out of rsync :-) (Well, I would say that, I used to be addicted to Unison but I've not touched it for about a year now ...) Unison is a bi-directional use of rsync, so you can make updates at either end and have them propogate correctly. Similar in some ways to the effect that CVS can have ... -jim If you must use ftp, the only usable syncer I could find is sitecopy. There are some perl scripts called mirror, but I could never get them to behave in a useful way. Be warned that ftp syncing is an absolute PITA and, depending on the particular run of ftp server you get, very unreliable. There is no guarantee you'll be able to get the info as to what is currently stored (in terms of files) on the server, ftp just doesn't allow this. sitecopy gets around this by keeping track of what is has copied before, so doesn't need to query what's on the server. Of course, if it ever gets out of sync, ... Use rsync if you possibly can. You will be saving yourself a lot of trouble. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmannis possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/Please do not CC list postings to me. -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 3798966 Fax + 64 3 3798853 http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: truncate file with shell
Check out man dd, it may be able to do this. -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2003 3:54 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: truncate file with shell Is there a shell command which can truncate a file to the given number of bytes? It would need to work with large files (i.e. 2GB). Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
RE: installfest etc
Hi Ray, To be able to post to the CLUG mailing list you need to first subscribe. To subscribe to the mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with subscribe linux-users in the body of the message. Your Internet connection problem could be DNS related. Open a xterm and try to ping a web site eg: ping www.paradise.co.nz. If this works then your Internet connection is fine and something may be wrong with your browser settings, if it does not work try to ping an IP address eg: ping 202.50.167.4. If this works you probably need to set your DNS servers manually, this is done in the /etc/resolv.conf file. If pinging the IP failed then something more fundamental is broken with your Internet connection settings. Try setting then up again. Cheers, Bjorn -Original Message- From: Raycl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 19 March 2003 8:11 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: installfest etc Just a few words to say thanks to you and your helpers at the recent installfest.I found everyone approachable and very helpful.As I spent most of the day there with my problem child I was In a good position to observe.I thought It was very well run and would certainly recommend the CLUG as a great source for Info and help. My apologies for mailing you direct but I was unable to access the CLUG mailing list thru the web site,(when I tried to send a post it was returned with a message saying I was not authorized to use that address).This brings me to my next question ,Someone at the install said you could load my e-mail manually,If you could that would be great. At the installfest I had Mandrake installed alongside Redhat ,which I had installed previously myself and Win M.E. Someone set up my internet config for me but I was unable to test It.When I got everything set up again at home I tried To connect to my isp and was successful on the second attempt (for some reason the modem isn't activated on the first try),but when I try to connect to any of the sites I get a error message saying It is an unknown host.If you or any one else can offer some help on this, again, I would be very grateful. Again many thanks for everyone's patience and help on Sat. Kind regards, Ray C. P.S. I originally sent this e-mail to Zane but It may have gone astray as I haven't Heard anything yet, so Ithought I'd try my luck with you.
RE: ignore
There seems to be a lot of people testing mail setups lately so here is a wee trick I use to test mail servers, clients whatever... Send an email to an address you are sure does not exist and not on the ISP you are connected to the Internet with. This will test pretty much everything required for mail to work: smtp and pop3 settings, MX records, relaying... For example if your ISP is Clear send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it should bounce back within a minute saying this account does not exist. This is a good thing and means all your settings are correct. -Original Message- From: Slosh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 10:26 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ignore just checking my mailbox setup. Please ignore this message. --Slosh
RE: There is no CLUG
Will do as soon as it propagates to the archive. Wow I bugger off to Auckland for a few days and CLUG gets a organised! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll second Carl's comment. I will add that now people have wanted to organise meetings a little better, there are people doing it. It's probably good having a few people designated to organise the meetings, just like we have people designated to organise the installfest. Like Carl, Clug is, for me, primarily the mailing list. As long as that still works then I'm happy with the organisation. Can we put a link from the website to them...next to the i was a newbie one. We could call it a brief history of Clug.
RE: Cheap Apples (Not Rotten)
We have some Beige G3's at work here going for $600 each. I think we also have the odd 7200 or 7300 as well. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Devine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I was wondering if anyone new a friend who is trying to get rid of an old or new Apple Macintosh for a fairly cheap price(OR FREE)?
RE: Active x controls
No activex controls will not work afaik, they are a very M$ thing. I use rdesktop from Linux to connect to MS terminal servers, works well. -Original Message- From: Kevin Linux account [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2002 10:29 a.m. To: CLUG Subject: Active x controls Can you use active x controls on Linux , such as the tsweb control for connecting to terminal server, or are active x controls just a Microsoft thing Regards, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fwd: [opensource] Favorite Linux Distribution]
Just thought I would let you all know about this poll. As would be expected Debian is leading. -Forwarded Message- From: Peter Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [opensource] Favorite Linux Distribution Date: 01 Dec 2002 22:07:52 +1300 What is you favorite Linux Distribution? The NZOSS has just put the question in a poll of readers. To vote go to: http://www.nzoss.org.nz
Re: OT: SpeedTouch Pro with H.323
With ADSL routers it either works or it doesn't, but what you could do is port forward all ports to your windows box then it may work. From a security point of view this is a very stupid idea so best that you ignore it. I do have another solution which will also bring this back on topic. The SpeedTouch Pro can be used as a modem with Linux. So you could set up a Linux based firewall which can be set up to handle H.323 via NAT/masquerading. A Linux firewall would also be a more secure option than a NAT router (if set up properly). On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 00:33, Huan Yee Chew wrote: Hi, My apologies for the OT. I was hoping someone can shed me some light into this. Is there anyone that uses this ADSL/Router and uses application that runs on H.323, which in this case MSN Messenger? I am having trouble using voice chat and file transfer. Neither incoming nor outgoing of voice and file transfer works. I am only able to use normal text chat. Any ideas will be much appreciated. Cheers, Huan
Re: OT: SpeedTouch Pro with H.323
Have you tried looking for new firmware, better support for H.323 may be in a newer release. On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 10:57, Huan Yee Chew wrote: I've done everything on that guide. No joy. I'm still open to ideas and suggestions. Huan At 08:04 15.11.2002, you wrote: Is the advice http://nzadsl.co.nz/howtos/Alcatel/alcatelpinholing.html any use to you in this regard ?
RE: August 29 meeting talk notes
This is now up on the CLUG web site -Original Message- From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:carlc;maxnet.co.nz] Hi, I've finally found the floppy disk with the only copy of the introduction to linux/unix concepts talk I gave at the August 29 meeting. It's a 45K pdf, that should go on the web somewhere. Any web admins want to host it? Should it be attached to the clug site perhaps? Cheers, Carl.
Re: Network censorship (was: Re: Network integration: was SAMBA i nstallation query)
We use sarg to do exactly what Theuns is saying here at work. Altho no one around here seems to really care. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: RE: Network censorship (was: Re: Network integration: was SAMBA i nstallation query) sarg is good for this - churns the access logs and creates top-user lists too. -- From: Theuns Verwoerd Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2002 13:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Network censorship (was: Re: Network integration: was SAMBA installation query) Greetings One solution mentioned for use with office networks: Maintain a list of where each user browses to. Make it publicly visible - while the dodgy pages would still be accessible, users are responsible for their actions (and any fallout that results). [In other words, grab a dump of the cache logs and put it online, basically] Basically a form of responsive social censorship. [And it may teach more than a technical solution, but that's just my opinion] Theuns KRN I personally think that these things are a waste of time and money. They might be able to filter much of the nasties but they also tend to catch good stuff like if the child is researching breast or genital cancer or looking at anything from the town of Scunthorpe in England. There was even some suggestion a few years ago that one of these filters had filtered out one of the major political party's web sites but not the other. I think that children should not be allowed to go on the net without supervision would you let you child walk down the main street of Chch alone? Putting too much faith in them is dangerous and they also tend to limit the quality of the web experience. My 2cents Regards , Zane On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 09:09:08 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It searches for naughty words in a web page and attempts to block appropriately. You can also put in blocking lists of naughty URL's. On a related note, Radio NZ has an automated email system for recipes (email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and this weeks Kim Hill recipe is returned. ) Apparently last week's recipe fell foul of a few mail filter programmes (e.g Mail Marshall). The recipe? cockaleekie soup LOL -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Theuns Verwoerd 27 Nazareth Avenue Software EngineerPO Box 8011 Allied Telesyn Research Christchurch phone +64 3 339 3000 New Zealand fax +64 3 339 3002 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alliedtelesyn.co.nz/ -
Re: Network censorship (was: Re: Network integration: was SAMBA i nstallation query)
type sarg into google and click I'm feeling lucky :-) - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: Network censorship (was: Re: Network integration: was SAMBA i nstallation query) We use sarg to do exactly what Theuns is saying here at work. Altho no one around here seems to really care. Oh and where do I find sarge anyway?? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network censorship (was: Re: Network integration: was SAMBA i nstallation query)
damn I thought that was really cool, and it still works for me, anyway the URL is http://web.onda.com.br/orso/ - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] type sarg into google and click I'm feeling lucky :-) sorry i get some band page (already tried that a few hours ago actually) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie initiation rite write right?
IMHO that just sounds/looks silly, and a few more characters would be unnoticable to download time. - Original Message - From: Rik Tindall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is Softwearz therefore acceptable for use in place of Software/Distributions? What sayeth the majority?
Re: Network integration/Newbies
We are currently looking at getting Jasons questionaire up on the CLUG home page these questions could be added to it as well (I think number 2 is already on it). On Mon, 2002-09-02 at 23:20, Stephen Nicholas wrote: Instead of making random and wild comments about how many computers people have, why they have them, whether they have kids or not, and what OS's they are running... Why doesn't someone (ie: someone with a webpage, who knows php or something (which i don't)) make a poll... asking : 1) How many computers do you own? 2) How many of these run linux? 3) What are the computer specs (roughly)? 4) Do you have a home network? Do you want a home network? 5) What would you get rid of first: House, Dog, Wife, Computer? 6) etc etc... Similar to the one on the installfest registration page, but to find out acually how many people have multiple computers, and want them networked at home etc. Just a thought, if someone has the time. Cheers, Steve
Re: Slides from the CLUG talk (and XFree86 config file)
Send the slides to me and I can put them up on the CLUG site. - Original Message - From: Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The slides from the talk are only on the machine that was at the meeting last night. I haven't set it up with a modem yet. When I do, I'll ask who wants to host them. I'm busy. It might take a week or so.
Re: Unix Timeline printing?
Very tricky to anti alias a gif image, go to http://www.levenez.com/unix/ and download the PDF (or PS) and try printing that. It should look much better. - Original Message - From: Stephen Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know a reliable antialiased method of printing the Unix timeline, the images are in gif format.
Re: CD Writers
I have a BTC and it works fine, it took a hammering at the Installfest by Mahesh, and still works fine. - Original Message - From: Phill Coxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to get a new internal CD-Writer. I'm looking at Liteon, Aopen and BTC. From memory Liteon and Aopen work fine with linux, but I can't recall BTC being mentioned. Any recommendations?
Re: combined file sizes info, how ?
probably the BSDs as well as they do not use the GPL - Original Message - From: C Falconer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Solaris 2) AIX 3) SCO 4) UnixWare 5) Netware 6) MacOS (?) Looks like I need two hands to count all the OSs covered by that... On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 12:59, Guy Steven wrote: Reminds me of an article in a recent Linux Journal M$ has released its CIFS technical specs on a royalty free basis provided that 1) they are used only on non microsoft platforms; and 2) they are not used in conjunction with GPL software
Re: Sound blaster live 5.1
I have the exact same card and it works fine with my 2.4.17 kernel. It uses the Creative SBLive! EMU10K1 module which comes with the standard kernel. I upgraded recently from a ISA Creative Vibra 16 and the difference in sound quality was amazing. I don't know about support with the 2.2 kernel as I have only used it with the 2.4 kernel. On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 01:00, Julian Visch wrote: Having had a look at the howtos and the creative web site I get the impression that the card will only work with kernel 2.2.5. Has anyone got it working for 2.4.*? I am running Suse. Or should I just return the card to the shop and get a different one, if so which one? thanks Julian Visch
Re: TuxRacer
Tuxracer depends on a the 3D capabilties of a systems video card. My last video card was a G200 and I tried everything to make 3D games work well on it with no success. Basically the G200 is an excellent 2D card but a crap 3D card. I upgraded to a cheap NVidia Geforce2 video card, which you can now pick up for around $100 new. Tuxracer runs beautifully on this card. On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 20:55, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Should it be possible to play TuxRacer on a 400MHz Pentium II with a Matrox G200 video system? It just doesn't go fast enough. Like a frame or two per second. Thanks 10^6 in advance -- Christopher Sawtell.
Re: permissions in /cgi-bin/
Mine is slightly different, perhaps you need those extra two lines in the directory setting? ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/cgi-bin/ Directory /var/www/cgi-bin AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory - Original Message - From: Chris Bayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: permissions in /cgi-bin/ I have: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/cgi-bin/ Directory /var/www/cgi-bin AllowOverride All Options ExecCGI /Directory I have tried adding an .htacces with 'Options +ExecCGI' all /var/www/... is 755 I don't get it : [ ChrisB On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 10:10, Chris Bayley wrote: I have have an out of the box apache install from Mandrake 8.2, I am trying to get some CGI going but get this on the browser: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/first.pl on this server. And this from the log: [error][client 127.0.0.1] client denied by server configuration: /var/www/cgi-bin/first.pl I guess it's to do with per-directory configs as first.pl runs from /var/www/perl/ ok I just don't know what I'm looking for yet. everything in cgi-bin has a+x ChrisB : )
Re: Printing the Rute manual
What sort of binding is that? At 330 leaves (is that the correct term?) thick which is nearly a ream (500), my experience with that plastic binding at that thickness is not very good. - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] I made enquiries with the Digital Print Centre on Victoria street just now. Based on 660 pages printed 2 up on both sides (ie the pages end up A5 size) the cost to print and bind with spiral binding is roughly: printing: $40.50 binding : $5.40 trimming: 3.75 Total : $49.65 They would print onto a4 and then cut it in half and bind it. This is also contingent on there not being too much black on the pages. This price is for 1-4 copies, so if we got a lot done it would be less, but he was a bit vague about that. It could be worth getting an order together. This is cheaper then getting it from Amazon $30 US plus (say) $15 US postage, double it to NZ$ = $90. The cheapest large commercial offerings on linux are over $100 in Whitcoulls. Thoughts -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTENTION NEWBIES -- ps
Actually one of the main purposes of this mailing list is to help people resolve problems they are having with Linux. So please feel free to post any problems you have here. You might not always get the full answer here but we can always point you in a good direction. I have found I have learnt many things about Linux just by reading this mailing list and seeing peoples problems answered. I hope this never changes. What you are planning to do Trev sounds very good and I would be very keen to publish or link to it on the CLUG homepage once it is finished. cheers, Bjorn On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 20:38, Trev wrote: Hi ps: Err... um, in my haste forgot to add, post your list of problems to me every few days at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOT to the group. Cheers Trevor
RE: A small suggestion...
I agree, you don't have to read every message, and this mailing list is not high volume. With intelligent use of filters/mail rules or separate email accounts it is easy to manage. On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 21:12, Andrew J Sands wrote: Here's a slightly more bizarre brief thought.. The mailing list is there for the purpose of assisting linux-users within the Christchurch/Canterbury(ish) area and I don't think we have any load issues (Zane can you comment on this?) Andrew
Intranet site
I want to set up a Intranet web site here at work. I have looked at PHPnuke and phpwiki, and neither are really suitable. PHPNuke is more of a news portal eg: Slashdot and phpwiki is just weird. The main features I need is: - Document publishing - Knowledge Base - File download area Any ideas? cheers, Bjorn
Re: probably a silly network question
Sounds like on the modem/router needs a route back to the 192.168.x.0/24 network. Configure a route in your modem/router for the 192.168.x.0/24 network and set 10.0.0.1 as the gateway for this network. Just as an aside it looks like you have a Alcatel SpeedTouch Pro ADSL router. If you want to you can set this up as a modem so that you have a ppp0 interface on your linux firewall that has the real Internet IP address. I find this to be much nicer to deal with. I can send you the info if you are interested. cheers, Bjorn - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:17 PM Subject: probably a silly network question I have a box (gateway) between two subnets, 192.168.x.0 and 10.0.0.0 I can ping from gateway to 10.0.0.138 and connect to the webserver on 10.0.0.138 from the gateway (lynx). I can ping from the 192 subnet to 10.0.0.1, but I cannot ping or connect to 10.0.0.138 from 192.168.x.0 subnet. ip forwarding is on on gateway and there are presently no firewall rules in place. gateway's routing table is like this Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 10.0.0.0* 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo default 192.168.1.254 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 tcpdump -i eth0 on gateway (while another machine is trying to ping from 192.168 etc) is like this: [root@gateway ipv4]# tcpdump -i eth0 Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on eth0 13:03:34.988970 arp who-has 10.0.0.138 tell 10.0.0.1 (0:0:c0:56:70:b0) 13:03:34.988970 arp reply 10.0.0.138 is-at 0:90:d0:6:a1:d5 (0:0:c0:56:70:b0) 13:03:35.178970 192.168.1.23 10.0.0.138: icmp: echo request (DF) 13:03:36.178970 192.168.1.23 10.0.0.138: icmp: echo request (DF) 13:03:37.178970 192.168.1.23 10.0.0.138: icmp: echo request (DF) 13:03:38.178970 192.168.1.23 10.0.0.138: icmp: echo request (DF) ie never any replies (except to the arp). Connections to port 80 of 10.0.0.138 are also rebufffed. Whats the guts? (gateway is running linux of course. The 10.0.0.138 is an adsl modem. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help!
tar supports bzip2 as well, it is usually -I or -j (depends on which version of tar). eg: tar jxvf archive.tar.bz2 or tar jcvf archive.tar.bz2 /some/dir/ - Original Message - From: David Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Cornelius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Help! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Peter Cornelius wrote: As a Mandrake newbie from Saturday I believe the first thing I need to do is to come to terms with some of the new expressions, commands and abbreviations. I was advised from whence to download some documentation. The downloaded file came with a .gz extension, which had I the documentation (!) might have told me was a zip file. A .gz is not, in an of itself, an archive in the same way a zip file is. It's simply a compressed file, in that case using gzip. The same is true of files ending in .bz2, in that case bzip2 (again.. just compression). In many cases, the archive part will be a tar. So you need two tools to unpack a file with a .tar.gz extension - g[un]zip and tar. Thankfully, recent versions of GNU tar has gzip support, using the z switch. If it was a .bz2, then you'd have to involve both tools. For example, if I have the file mystuff.tar.gz, I use: tar zxvf mystuff.tar.gz to decompress and unpack the contents. That only works with GNU tar, whereas: gzip -cd mystuff.tar.gz | tar xvf - works on any *nix. In this case, I'm decompressing the file (-d on gzip or I could use gunzip instead and skip the -d), piping the resulting decompressed output into tar (-c tells gzip to output to stdout, the pipe charater connects stdout to stdin of tar), and telling tar to extract it (x for extract, v for verbose, f for file, and the filename is -, which means stdin). If it was a .bz2 file, you'd have to do a similar thing, since only very new versions of GNU tar support bz2 internally: bzip2 -cd mystuff.tar.bz2 | tar xvf - If they do, you can reduce this down to: tar jxvf mystuff.tar.bz2 but the net effect is the same. Clear as mud? Happy to clarify anything. - -- I know of no technological device at this time that would [prevent priracy] and if it did exist, it would only be a matter of days before the [..] manufacturers would have an override piece of equipment on their machine and you would start from ground zero again. -- Jack Valenti, President of the MPAA (1982) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE9PK+DT21+qRy4P+QRArh0AKDu49zQdvDC0iolkvxlvOyyz3AEkACfRqH7 SM/ctHvdf45ek/aXDZ4Qqc0= =czQJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: probably a silly network question
I didn't think the ST Home could be used as a router, perhaps this is also a problem? Or is this routing just so that you can connect to the ST Home web interface to configure it via your firewall? - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speedtouch home actually. And what you describe is what I intend to do with it. If I get stuck I'll give you a bell.
Re: Apple distros for installfest.
I may be able to help, have installed Debian on two Macs (PowerPC 7200s) that I use as servers. One is still running as a web server (It did have an uptime of nearly 1 year until I boloxed up a ipchains rule and had to reboot it), the other one was decommisioned last week, it was a mail and domain server (it had load issues so replaced with a honking big Athlon). I set these up over a year ago so my memory is a bit poor. I see that Mandrake has a PPC port which should work well. Maybe someone could download the iso's, and bring them along? I think in this situation we have to stress the all care no responsibilty rule, and dual boots may be problematic. - Original Message - From: Zane Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:20 PM Subject: Apple distros for installfest. Well, it had to happen we've been asked about installing Linux on an Imac. Is there *anybody* on the list who can come on Saturday who could help here? I belive the distros are: Linux PPC and Yellow Dog does anybody know anything about these? I haven't really got a clue with Apple stuff and it would be kind of uncool to turn this guy away. Anybody please Regards, Zane
Re: Apple distros for installfest.
Silly me I'm stuck in Auckland this week so I didn't think I could download those Mandrake/PPC isos. After sending the msg I realised I can ssh into my computer at home and start the download now. So I should have them for Saturday. - Original Message - From: Bjorn Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Re: Apple distros for installfest. I may be able to help, have installed Debian on two Macs (PowerPC 7200s) that I use as servers. One is still running as a web server (It did have an uptime of nearly 1 year until I boloxed up a ipchains rule and had to reboot it), the other one was decommisioned last week, it was a mail and domain server (it had load issues so replaced with a honking big Athlon). I set these up over a year ago so my memory is a bit poor. I see that Mandrake has a PPC port which should work well. Maybe someone could download the iso's, and bring them along? I think in this situation we have to stress the all care no responsibilty rule, and dual boots may be problematic. - Original Message - From: Zane Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:20 PM Subject: Apple distros for installfest. Well, it had to happen we've been asked about installing Linux on an Imac. Is there *anybody* on the list who can come on Saturday who could help here? I belive the distros are: Linux PPC and Yellow Dog does anybody know anything about these? I haven't really got a clue with Apple stuff and it would be kind of uncool to turn this guy away. Anybody please Regards, Zane
Re: Top 10 things wrong with Linux
Actually I knew about that option but I was more interested in respect to on boot. I realize now I could have hard coded -y into the init file, and Debian actually has a place to set this in /etc/default/rcS, also other handy options in there too. cheers - Original Message - From: Matthew Gregan [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you read the man page, you'd find the ``-y'' parameter would do what you ask.
Re: Fw: Re: procmail variable assignment
this should work as well: CYRUSUSER=` /bin/echo $CYRUSUSER | /usr/bin/tr A-Z a-z` On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 21:17, Nick Rout wrote: I am forwarding Andre's message as acknowledgement of his help (he has some problem posting to the list) and also advising for posterity that the answer was like this: CYRUSUSER2=` /bin/echo $CYRUSUSER | /usr/bin/tr A-Z a-z` CYRUSUSER=$CYRUSUSER2 (note the back ticks ` ) which started from Andre's solution (which didn't quite work) and after a bit of bashing and reading of different procmail faqs, worked out ok. For interest, if procmail failed, it delivered to the file /var/spool/mail/cyrus. Its interesting to note that I've found a few lost emails (addressed to NICK, Nick, etc). Bummer. Thanks also to Jim for his post, which (if I hadn't fixed it already) would have been helpful. Forwarded by Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Original Message --- From:Andre Renaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Tue, 9 Jul 2002 15:02:15 +1200 (NZST) Subject: Re: procmail variable assignment Can i do something at the head of the procmail.global file to change $CYRUSUSER to all lowercase, like (in pseudocode) CYRUSUSER=lowercase($CYRUSYSER) -- try CYRUSUSER2=| echo $CYRUSUSER | tr A-Z a-z CYRUSUSER=$CYRUSUSER2 Unfortunately you have to use two variables (from the mini-FAQ): Variable capture clobbers variable's old value I.e. the following doesn't work as expected: :0 variable=| echo $variable | tr A-Z a-z The value of variable will be empty by the time the echo executes. Hope this helps, Andre PS. I haven't posted this to the list, it screws with my emails. - Original Message Ends -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Commitment to Installfest..
I will be there with my computer. I can demo DVD playing and DVD to DIVX encoding. Trivial stuff but may interest someone. My graphics card also has TV-Out so it could be used for bigger demos if necessary. My system is Debian-Woody/Ximian based (no windoze in sight) altho my destop environment is very minimal with my window manager being fluxbox, but thats how I like it. I will have isos for Debian, Redhat and Mandrake which I will be able to burn for people. - Original Message - From: Chris Hellyar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: Commitment to Installfest.. Hi-ho, Can I have a show of hands who intends to bring a computer for demo purposes to the intallfest? I'm going to add a bit on the website that very roughly describes what we'll be showing off. The more the merrier... Cheers, Chris H.
Re: Installfest Registration
May be the list should be cut down to the following as do we really want to install any thing else for new people to Linux? Debian is my distro of choice but I would never set it up for a newbie, unless I was prepared to hand hold them for the next few months. Redhat Mandrake Suse Smoothwall/IPCop do you want to really do gentoo if we have limited outside download resources? It has to download all the sources then compile them. It takes a lot of time (X alone is something like 50-60 MB). There is also nothing automatic about it, quite tricky, it will take a disproportionate amount of the volunteers time to supervise it, and take up space another installer could be using.
Re: Linux games for little kids?
Tux Racer is great fun, my little sisters (5 and 7) love it. I think it needs a 3D card tho, but they are really cheap now, under $100 new. - Original Message - From: Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: Linux games for little kids? I've got a 3 year old and an almost-5yr old. Can anyone recommend some games (educational or fun) for that age range? It's an older computer (PII 266) with a cheapo graphics card. Cheers, -- Carl Cerecke, Assistant Lecturer|email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Computer Science, |Phone: +64 3 364 2987 ext. 7859 University of Canterbury, |Fax:+64 3 364 2569 Private Bag 4800, |http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~cdc Christchurch, New Zealand. |
Re: Linux Terminal Server
Sounds like there is no chance the Linux Terminal Server will work over a WAN or VPN over the Internet. Are their other options to provide a more thin thin client setup? eg: Citrix, MSTS 10Mbs vs 100 Mbs debate for client can't be settled unless you know what kind of apps you want to run (which decides how much data is pushed down the wire). For normal usage we have heaps of nfsroot terminals quite happy with 10Mbs. OTOH if you want to stream video or huge data across (videogames ?) than it might be another matter.
Re: corrupt partion table :(
You could create boot images from your disks by using the command dd if=/dev/fd0 of=disk.img then just the reverse to write it back to a disk. On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 16:01, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: Chris, If you can't boot off of the HDD that is corrupted then I guess you will have to use a boot disk. I have the peanut boot disk (two disks) and would use them to boot up linux and then run fdisk or cfdisk (easier to use) and rewrite the partion table form that. Or delete the damaged partition and then rewrite the partition. I just now checked the peanut site: http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/ But the peanut boot images don't seem to be there anymore. And I bet you don't want to download the 140Meg distro ISO just to get them. Let me know if you should want to borrow my disks. The next option is to try the HDD's diagnostic and repair discs, I see these are available for the various drives at: http://www.bootdisk.com/utility.htm You may even find something else that may help there to.
Re: lpr printing SOLVED
Could a lack of tab(s) be the cause of your problem? Yes when I add tabs it also works in the original syntax ie: lp|HPLJ2100:\ :rm=192.168.69.39:\ :rp=raw:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:
lpr printing
I am trying to print directly to a HP Laserjet 2100N using lpr/lpd but it is not working. The frustrating thing is that it works fine from a Win2K box using lpr. Any ideas would be much appreciated. This is my /etc/printcap lp|HPLJ2100:\ :rm=192.168.69.39:\ :rp=raw:\ :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: and when I try to print I get this: # lpr -Plp bla.txt lpr: connect: Connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. # lpq waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?) Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stroot 11 /root/bla.txt 294 bytes 2ndroot 12 /root/bla.txt 294 bytes
Re: lpr printing
Even more bizarre, it seems to be ignoring the fact that it should print to a remote printer and is actually printing to /dev/lp0. I found if I loaded the lp.o module it no longer complains about being offline and is now actually printing to the local printer. Where does it get that idea from this printcap file: # cat /etc/printcap lp|HPLJ2100:\ :lp=:\ :rm=192.168.69.39:\ :rp=raw:\ :lf=/var/log/lp-errs:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:
Re: lpr printing SOLVED (sort of)
It seems to be a syntax error This prints to /dev/lp0 ??? # cat /etc/printcap lp|HPLJ2100:\ :rm=192.168.69.39:\ :rp=raw:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: This prints to network printer (notice no colons on end of lines) # cat /etc/printcap lp|HPLJ2100\ :rm=192.168.69.39\ :rp=raw\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: Why this is the case I have no idea because the example printcap file has those colons and everything I read on the net does too. If anyone is interested I am running Debian 2.2r5 and lpd 0.48-1. Well this has wasted a heap of time :-( cheers, Bjorn
Re: S3 Savage (Was - Re: Monitor spacing)
I get a similar thing with my Geforce2 card using the Nvidia drivers. When I switch to a virtual console from X and then try and switch back to X my screen locks up. With just the X SVGA driver it works fine but then I don't Interesting. At home i have no problems. Which version of the drivers/which kernel are you using ? From memory kernel is 2.4.19 and the Nvidia drivers are the latest from their web site as of about 2 weeks ago.
Re: CLUG Meeting Report 28th February 2002
Fine by me, I have pretty much said this on the web site anyway. Anything else people would like added to the web site let me know. At this point the website is a bit sparse but I am keen to develop it more. cheers, Bjorn - Original Message - From: Nick Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chris Hellyar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:36 AM Subject: Re: CLUG Meeting Report 28th February 2002 Chris, The CLUG webmaster is Bjorn Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( http://christchurch.lug.net.nz/ ) I see personolly see no reason why people of whom want to be on the help list email him directly with thier details and best time to reach them by telephone. Nick Elder On Tuesday 05 March 2002 23:47, Chris Hellyar wrote: On this... I had one of the chaps who was at the meeting ring me with his name, and someone else's who want to be 'contacts' for helping newbies.. Do I just mail them to the chap who looks after the web site? (Can't remember his name off the top of my head..) Cheers, Chris. * Design engineer, Assembly worker, Cleaner. * Ohmark Electronics. PO Box 45, Leeston, New Zealand. * Ph: +64 21 350 603 Fax: +64 3 324 4463 A/H +64 3 324 4462 * http://www.ohmark.co.nz - Original Message - From: Nick Elder CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: CLUG Meeting Report 28th February 2002 -CLUG Meeting Report 28th February 2002 +Minutes (unofficial) of the meeting +Door takings balance Meeting started at 7:30 Nick Elder MC for the evening. Approximately 40+ present. Apologies: Nick Rout, Dave Lane General business: The offer for CLUG to use the facilities offered to us by the the Aoteroa Multimedia centre was discussed and the majority consensus was that we remain using Sydenham Community Centre. Install Fest. It was agreed that we should have an install fest this year. Most likely three to four months from now, so as to make enough time for organization and more importantly advertising. ie inBusiness IT magazine, Buy sell Exchange, Newspaper. The offer to the club using a school (I am sorry I didn't note which school) for a future demonstrations was made by one of our members. The possibility of using Sydenham Community Hall one weekend day was suggested The issue of the risk of wrecking someones data while doing an install on their computer was raised. It was generally agreed that we should put some kind of disclaimer on the our web site nearer the event. Along with how to prepare a machine for a linux install. Be it defraging a windows drive or adding another HDD. The option of having bootable CD distros that run linux off of the CD for demonstration was also suggested. A hands up of those likely to attend next months social meeting at a hotel was asked for. Approximately 10 people at the meeting thought they would most likely go along. Suggestions for a likely venue was asked for. One suggestion was submitted: Heathcote Hotel (so lets go there!) (Did you mean the Valley Inn Brian?) The idea of having a help phone list on the web site for newbies was suggested. With the idea of suitable times to phone those on the list, was suggested. (topic for further discussion in CLUG mail list no doubt!) There was no further general bussiness. supper break 8:20PM 9:00PM Carl Cerecke then kicked of the Hints and Tips talk part of the evening. With a description on how X works. And how to use one machine to display X and a window manager ,while using another to run linux and its programs. Carl continued to address the meeting while others in the meeting asked and answered various questions. meeting ended 10:20PM CLUG thank those that bought equipment, and/or donated time to the meeting. Door takings $56.90 balance left from last meeting (Dec 6th 2001) +50.60 collected at this meeting - 1.65 supper expenses -15.00 hall hire == $90.85 Balance == === === .
Re: Apache
I doubt that would work, I would say that apache would fail to start with a config like that. You can give the ExecCGI option to any directory so something like this would work: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /stuff/web/cgi-bin/ Directory /stuff/web/cgi-bin/ Options ExecCGI /Directory ScriptAlias /stats/ /stuff/web/stats-bin/ Directory /stuff/web/stats-bin/ Options ExecCGI /Directory In apache can you have two cgi-bin directories?? ie.. cgi-bin stats-bin so would the following work. ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /stuff/web/cgi-bin/ Directory /stuff/web/cgi-bin/ Options ExecCGI /Directory ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /stuff/web/stats-bin/ Directory /stuff/web/stats-bin/ Options ExecCGI /Directory From the things i have had to deal with apache.. I can't see why it won't work.. But i thought I better check if someone has done this.. As the web server i am playing around :) can't go crashing to the ground in a big ball of flames :)) Johnno
RE: Installfest?
I can supply a 16 port 10/100 hub and some patch cables, also I have some bandwidth to burn here at work, so I could download a few iso's and burn them to CD (any requests?). What I lack is hard drive space but I plan to remedy that soon with a new 40 gig hard disk. So depending on when we do this I may be able to set up a FTP server as well. I wouldn't mind helping ppl with installs either but only if it is Debian (just kidding). cheers, Bjorn -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2002 3:16 p.m. To: CLUG Subject: Installfest? I see NZLUG are having an installfest on 30 March. I am vaguely wondering whether we should have one sometime.?? I am thinking: 1. one or two grunty ftp servers to let people without cdroms install. Put maybe 3 or 4 distros on the ftp servers then let people plug into a lan and go for it. 2. someone writing cdroms for people to take away, or install on the spot. 3. a group of people running around helping with problems. Requirements? 1. a couple of big (16 port?) hubs with plenty of patch cords. 2. a machine with enough grunt and disk space to ftp up 3 or 4 different distros 3. another machine to write cdroms. 4. internet connection for trouble shooting, getting updates, testing etc (plus firewall of course) 5. some prewritten boot disks for ftp installs. 6. lotsa bench space. 7. the bods to run it -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rout.co.nz
RE: Nescape/Mozilla on SuSE7.3
The command you really want is netstat --inet -lp, you want to look for a line that reads like tcp 0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN 29667/apache altho is sounds like there is a web server running and it may just be a name resolution problem, in your /etc/hosts file you should have a line that reads: 127.0.0.1 localhost -Original Message- From: efh11 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2002 1:48 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Nescape/Mozilla on SuSE7.3 Thanks for the rapid response to my query telnet localhost 80 gets response that connection was refused to ::1... so it tried 127.0.0.1 and connected OK. So what is ::1... ? netstat -ap gave me lots of information I could not make sense of. One line was STREAM CONNECTED ... 1030/mozilla-bin SuSEfirewall stop got a command not found response. On further trials found /etc/hosts used 127.0.0.2 for linux.local, thought that was the problem and changed it to 127.0.0.1. Did not help. I also have a problem (not related) that on shutdown I get a message vgchamge-no volume groups found. The same message occurs on booting, and the machine also says shutdown was not completed properly, and checks drives. I am using a laptop with pcmcia card. That gave some trouble at start but is now working well, but I dont know what I changed to fix it. Ed Ed Hitchcock 9 Fulton Ave Christchurch 8001 355 7708 025 325 481
RE: Re: CLUG Meeting 28th February-Topic and speaker-update
WOW! the whole Internet on one CD, I have to have a copy of that. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 11 February 2002 8:54 a.m. To: Nick Rout; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: CLUG Meeting 28th February-Topic and speaker-update I got a copy of the internet on a cd from dick smith, so we could use that for testing, i couldn't believe it was free!! ;-) JeremyB. From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/02/10 Sun PM 01:59:45 GMT+12:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CLUG Meeting 28th February-Topic and speaker-update firewalls/broadband/nat/vpn thru firewalls?? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Mature comments appreciated
Looks like CodeRed to me, this is a trojan/virus so I doubt it is being done intentionally. CodeRed infects computers by exploiting a hole in IIS. There is bugger all you can do about this except if your running IIS then make sure it is patched. You could see if that IP has a mail server running on it then notify them that they are infected by sending an email to postmaster@IP but thats a long shot. Bjorn -Original Message- From: Mark Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2002 6:47 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mature comments appreciated I am currently 'playing' with apache, does anyone here ever get tired of; snip [Wed Jan 30 15:30:59 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/scripts/root.exe [Wed Jan 30 15:31:01 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/MSADC/root.exe [Wed Jan 30 15:31:03 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Wed Jan 30 15:31:05 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Wed Jan 30 15:31:06 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Wed Jan 30 15:31:08 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/_vti_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Wed Jan 30 15:31:10 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/_mem_bin/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe [Wed Jan 30 15:31:12 2002] [error] [client 210.74.146.190] File does not exist: /somedir/msadc/..%5c../..%5c../..%5c/..Á^\../..Á^\../..Á^\../winnt/system32/ cmd.exe /snip I mean this attack was directed at an NT/2k/XP machine. I have whois'ed the IP and have someone to complain to, what is the general attitude here towards responding to provocation such as this? I do realise that .190 is not a specific address and will probably not be traceable back to the purpotrating computer. But someone needs a good stiff slaping with a dripping wet trout. Mark Carey _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
RE: Mature comments appreciated
Just a telnet to port 25 will tell you if a mail server is running. I don't advocate running a scan or doing anything unnecessary. Notifying them that their computer is infected would be a nice thing to do. -Original Message- From: Mark Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2002 7:18 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mature comments appreciated Apart from clogging up your log file, was there any other damage? Noticeable degradation of system performance, generating billable (to you) traffic, etc? Thankfully No to all of the above. I am on a *cough* unlimited traffic, low bandwidth *cough* always on except for this morning, type plan. ;) Vik: I am fanatical about this 'more secure' operating system. Bjorn: Are you advocating a scan back to 'look for a mail server'? Mark Carey _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
RE: Linux + Adsl
1. PPPoA (RFC2364) 2. There are a couple of options: 3com Homeconnect ADSL Modem - The first Linux friendly ADSL modem. I have set this up at a number of places and it works well. It acts as a PPPoE to PPPoA convertor and the linux software Roaring Penguin PPPoE is simple to setup. You end up with a ppp0 device with your internet IP just like a regular modem connection. Problem is it is now a discontinued product, but you may be able to pick one up second hand or I have a few new ones here, so I could sell you one. Alcatel Speedtouch Home ADSL Modem - I have heard good things about these but never used one. It acts as a PPTP to PPPoA convertor so setting it up in Linux is easy and once again you end up with a ppp0 device. I've just received today a D-Link DSL-100D ADSL Modem PCI Card which I have a theory that I may be able to get it to work under Linux. I will start testing it next week. If these work I will be very pleased as they are only about $150 which is very cheap. 3. Not sure. Check out http://www.nzadsl.co.nz lots of handy info there and I recommend joining the NZ ADSL mailing list http://www.unixathome.org/adsl/. Bjorn -Original Message- From: Mark Carey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2001 8:44 a.m. To: cLug (E-mail) Subject: Linux + Adsl Hi, Following the lengthy discussion, http://www.ethernal.org/List-Archives/cantlug-0105/msg00133.html held during may 2001 on this topic I have two questions. Which are not answered in the Linux DSL HOWTO, http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/index.html 1. Does Telecom NZ use PPPoE or PPPoA? 2. Can I get a ADSL modem that does not contain any sort of router/bridge? 3. Does anyone here know a Telecom installer that can turn Interleave off at the DSLAM for me :) ? The reason I ask the 2nd question is my Linux box already uses NAT and does firewalling over 56K dialup connection and I am happy with the performance. Thank You, Mark Carey
RE: list owner address
The list owner us Zane and can be contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I maintain the web site which you can find at http://canterbury.lug.net.nz Bjorn -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 15 October 2001 1:01 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: list owner address What is the generic list owner address again? I can't find it with greps on previous emails... And who is maintaining our web site again? Volker
RE: mailing list archives (belated thread topic oops)
Thats a good point and I like the idea of keeping it local. Michael's site isn't searchable except that it has been crawled by google. Whats the chance of getting htdig up on that archive Michael? :) Bjorn Looks harmless enough so... The problem is that bots go and collect email addresses for spamming. I would consider that to be a safe assumption with any US company, but I might make an exception for VA. I would still prefer hosting this in NZ. Doesn't Michael Beattie run a searchable archive of this list already? Volker I have just found out about a free mailing list archive service at http://www.mail-archive.com/ (sponsored by VA Linux). All that is required is that archive@jab.org is subscribed. I think it would be very useful to have a searchable archive of this mailing list. So if no one has any problems with this could Zane subscribe that email address?
RE: mailing list archives (belated thread topic oops)
Thats great, thanks Mike. Yes I too have a separate email address for all the mailing lists I belong too. I think the NZADSL mailing list (or is it NZNOG?) has a post only subscription so you can receive with one address and post with another perhaps we could have something like that here? Bjorn On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 09:31:17AM +1200, Bjorn Nilsen wrote: Thats a good point and I like the idea of keeping it local. Michael's site isn't searchable except that it has been crawled by google. Whats the chance of getting htdig up on that archive Michael? :) Can be done. just not till the weekend : oh, and my email address is as below, I just have to use my subscription address for this silly list. of the huge list of lists I am subscribed to, only 2 require me to use my sub addy. IT SUCKS. Mike. -- Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contentsofsignaturemaysettleduringshipping.
