Re: K3B dependencies
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 19:34, Simon Hansman wrote: The reason is that the new perl conflicts with the older Test-Simple and FileSpecall you need to do is emerge unmerge Test-Simple File-Spec and then emerge k3b Cheers Simon Thanks for that, it solved my problem! Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Probs emerging OpenOffice
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 08:38, you wrote: Hi Gentoo freaks on the list! I've tried to emerge OpenOffice on my Gentoo system from the install fest, but it allways crashed after 2 or 3 hours of compiling. After the 3rd attempt I've outcommented the CFLAGS in my make.conf, because at the begin of the emerge process there is an info saying that OpenOffice is very sensitiv to aggressive optimization parameters. Now that I've tried to emerge it without any optimization for the 3rd time and it still crashes, I somehow don't know what to do next. The last few lines of the CL output are [ ... ] = Building project sch = /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/sch/sdi mkout -- version: 1.3 date: write error: No space left on device dmake: Error code 2, while making 'Shell escape' echo: write error: No space left on device Here it is:--^^ Which means that your disk is full and you can't write any more! How much free space did you have when you started? My compile failed for the same reason and I had 1.2 Bytes or there abouts. Does anybody know how much free space is needed to compile OOo? Silly me! Chris was right, of course. I didn't even think about not having enough space on my disk, because I've had much more packages installed on my Debian system with the same partition size. I didn't take in account that a Debian system installed via Knoppix has neither stored the source nor the .deb files of all the large packages, though. I've removed some things from my disk and started over with 2.2 GB, but that still wasn't good enough. This time it only took longer for emrge to fill up my root partition. On the third attempt I moved all non-oo distfiles to another partition, which gave me 2.6 GB free disk space, and this time it worked :). That should roughly answer your question about the needed disk space. Surprisingly it took only between 6 and 7 hours to compile OpenOffice, which is much shorter than reported from many sides. Thanks for your help! Greetz, Conrad.
Probs emerging OpenOffice
Hi Gentoo freaks on the list! I've tried to emerge OpenOffice on my Gentoo system from the install fest, but it allways crashed after 2 or 3 hours of compiling. After the 3rd attempt I've outcommented the CFLAGS in my make.conf, because at the begin of the emerge process there is an info saying that OpenOffice is very sensitiv to aggressive optimization parameters. Now that I've tried to emerge it without any optimization for the 3rd time and it still crashes, I somehow don't know what to do next. The last few lines of the CL output are Generating .rc file - deliver -- version: 1.17.4.3 COPY: build.lst - /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/solver/641/unxlngi4.pro/inc/forms/build.lst COPY: ../unxlngi4.pro/lib/libfrm641li.so - /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/solver/641/unxlngi4.pro/lib/libfrm641li.so deliver: /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/forms/prj/d.lst: ERROR: can't copy ../unxlngi4.pro/lib/libfrm641li.so: No space left on device COPY: ../unxlngi4.pro/bin/frm64101.res - /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/solver/641/unxlngi4.pro/bin/frm64101.res deliver: /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/forms/prj/d.lst: ERROR: can't copy ../unxlngi4.pro/bin/frm64101.res: No space left on device COPY: ../unxlngi4.pro/bin/frm64149.res - /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/solver/641/unxlngi4.pro/bin/frm64149.res deliver: /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/forms/prj/d.lst: ERROR: can't copy ../unxlngi4.pro/bin/frm64149.res: No space left on device COPY: ../util/frm.xml - /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/solver/641/unxlngi4.pro/xml/frm.xml deliver: /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/forms/prj/d.lst: ERROR: can't copy ../util/frm.xml: No space left on device COPY: ../util/frm.xml - /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/solver/641/unxlngi4.pro/xml/frm.xml deliver: /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/forms/prj/d.lst: ERROR: can't copy ../util/frm.xml: No space left on device Statistics: Files copied: 1 Files unchanged/not matching: 6 = Building project sch = /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/sch/sdi mkout -- version: 1.3 date: write error: No space left on device dmake: Error code 2, while making 'Shell escape' echo: write error: No space left on device ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /var/tmp/portage/openoffice-1.0.3-r1/work/oo_1.0.3_src/sch/sdi !!! ERROR: app-office/openoffice-1.0.3-r1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 489, Exitcode 1 !!! Build failed! If more is desired, just let me know :). Do I have to recompile the whole system with unoptimized CFLAGS? Any help would greately be appreciated! Greetz, Conrad.
Re: Gentoo IF - Thank You
Nick Rout wrote: either copy them from the cd/dvd into /usr/portage or change the distfile dir in /etc/make.conf. HOWEVER if emerge decides it wants something that is not on the cd, it will try and download it and write it onto the cd/dvd, which is going to crap out. that sort of cd is not marketed by anyone as it would be a nightmare updating it. On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:23:19+1200 Conrad Wolf[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've copied David's distfiles into my /usr/portage/distfiles, but when I emerge a package that I've copied this way, portage wants to download it anyway. Do I have to update something to make it know that they're there? Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Gentoo IF - Thank You
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Have you done an 'emerge rsync' recently? It is possible that a new file has been added to the portage system and your computer is going to get the new version, or simply that David did not have the precise source file you want in the archive. What it the file you are trying to emerge? Please include the _precise_ ( sorry to be pedantic, but it's important ) path and file name of the .ebuild and the tar.gz files. Otherwise emerge with the full path and name of the .ebuild file you wish to emerge. Sorry, Chris, it was my fault. For some reason the big ones of David's distfiles didn't untar properly the first time. So I ended up with 0 kb files of the same names and didn't realize. After I've untared the archive again, everyrhing worked fine. This mail is allready written in my new Mozilla :). The two free CDROMs I mentioned on the list as available have gone, but I can cut more. Particular packages could be added, there is about 55 Megs left before the two CDROMs are completely full vis:- 669319168 Jul 5 23:14 /usr/local/isos/AtoK.iso 674136064 Jul 5 23:17 /usr/local/isos/LtoZ.iso These archives hold 653 packages which is about 15% of the total packages available and represents approx 65 - 70 hours of download time with a 56k modem on a good day. The Mozilla sources at 31.1 Mbytes are actually in the AtoK CD otherwise they wouldn't fit in the CD. Install and LiveCD disks available too. KDE, no Gnome applications in these CDROMs. Just the gtk libraries, so GIMP works. $5 per CDROM + postage, or you collect. At the moment I've no use for the CDs, but thanks for the offer. I've all the big packages together that I normally use and for the small bits and pieces it's more conveniant to simply emerge them. From now on I consider myself as a happy Gentoo user and I don't intend to go back to Debian (which I loved). Thanx to all who helped! Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Mdk 9.1 - another thing that works out of the box.
Nick Rout wrote: emerge|apt-get|up2date openoffice bang its going, no reboot. emerge openoffice definitely doesn't go bang and it's going :). You don't have to reboot, though. Conrad.
grub.conf
Hi Chris, do you remember the strange line in grub.conf from Saturday? In the kernel line one specifes the location of the kernel image like (boot partition)/boot/bzImage, where the boot partition itself is normally mounted at /boot in the root tree. Therefore there shouldn't be a directory by the name /boot in the boot partition. I've found that the boot partition has a symbolic link with the name boot to itself. Hence you could also write (boot partition)/bzImage or even (boot partition)/boot/boot/boot/boot/bzImage with exactly the same result. Cheers, Conrad.
Re: grub.conf
Nick Rout wrote: thinking about it I think it may be so that you can use the line kernel=/boot/bzImage, whether or not /boot is a separate partition. Think about it! On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:19:54 +1200 Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that GRUB might by default look for its stage files in (partition)/boot/grub/, whatever partition it is on.
Re: Gentoo IF - Thank You
David Kirk wrote: well it would have been nicer if we had distcc working properly. How did Sunday go? The 2 PC's we left compiling on Saturday night crapped out some time during the night. We decided that Gentoo wasn't the right choice for those PC's and gave up. I installed Mandrake 9.1 on Bob's PC and the other guy (who's name I can't remember atm) took his PC home to do install Mandrake 8.2 again. Both these people didn't quite know what they were getting themselves into before bringing their PC's in, but I think they learned quite a bit from the exercise. I tidied up and left at about 1:30pm. There were a couple of things left behind. There was a 3m extension cord and an F5 key. There is also a few install manuals left behind and some CD's if anyone wants them. Later David Kirk Hi all, a big thanks also from me! It really was fun on Saturday and I've learned a lot. Unfortunately I couldn't make it on Sunday, because my box was compiling KDE until late in the afternoon (and it works :)! ). David, could you let me know sometime when you are at OSTC that I can come and emerge -f openoffice, mozilla and evolution? I also wondered if it is possible to specify something like file://... as GENTOO_MIRROR in make.conf. Does anybody know? Cheers, Conrad. p.s.: What do you do, if you've got a system that hasn't got telnet yet, but you'd need telnet to install telnet (uni firewall)? Chuck in Knoppix, telnet the firewall server, make the change root thing to the Gentoo partition and emerge the telnet package. I couldn't believe it, but it worked :)!
Re: Gentoo IF - Thank You
Hi David, thanx for your quick reply! David, could you let me know sometime when you are at OSTC that I can come and emerge -f openoffice, mozilla and evolution? How about tomorrow night at 5:30pm? That's fine with me. I'll see you then. Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Gentoo IF - Thank You
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:25, you wrote: [ ... ] a big thanks also from me! It really was fun on Saturday and I've learned a lot. Unfortunately I couldn't make it on Sunday, because my box was compiling KDE until late in the afternoon (and it works :)! ). David, could you let me know sometime when you are at OSTC that I can come and emerge -f openoffice, mozilla and evolution? I also wondered if it is possible to specify something like file://... as GENTOO_MIRROR in make.conf. Does anybody know? If you copy the required file(s) into the /usr/portage/distfiles directory, this has the same effect. -- C. S. I rather thought about a CD/DVD with all the packages I normally use. If there was also a portage tree on the CD/DVD, it would be consistent in itself. For installing Gentoo on a dial-up box you'd simply specify the respective directories as mirrors and could get your system running without a network connection at all. At least that's what I had in mind. Cheers, Conrad.
Re: NVidia Drivers and Gentoo
Hamish McBrearty wrote: OK, I've asked a couple of the learned Gentoolmen within CLug this, but they were a little distracted at the time. Here's my problem, I've got Gentoo installed quite happily with only one problem. I can't install the nvidia drivers. bash-2.05b# emerge nvidia-kernel Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r2 to / md5 src_uri ;-) NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4363.tar.gz * This version needs MTRR support for most chipsets! * Please enable MTRR support in your kernel config, found at: * * Processor type and features - [*] MTRR (Memory Type Range Register) support * * and recompile your kernel ... !!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4363-r2 failed. !!! Function pkg_setup, Line 39, Exitcode 0 !!! MTRR support not detected! Fair enough, I didn't have MTRR support compiled into my kernel initally. However I've recompiled, and recompiled and recompiled (largely to get my sound card going) with MTRR enabled but still the error persists. Looking into the install script it checks for /proc/mtrr and dies when it fails to find this. Any ideas? Also I should add I'm using the pfeiffer-sources if that's of any consequence. - Hamish McBrearty MCSE MCSA Network Engineer Rangi Ruru Girls' School 59 Hewitts Road Christchurch NEW ZEALAND Ph 03 355-6099 Fax 03 355-6027 CELL 021 999770 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hi Nick, would you mind to download the nVidia packages for I've got a GeForce graphics card in my laptop. I think it should be the packages media-video/nvidia-kernel and media-video/nvidia-glx. Sorry, but I didn't think of that in the first place. Thanx, Conrad.
Re: mounted harddrives showing
dave wrote: Just a bit quick bit of info Currently I have several harddrives showing as mounted on my KDE 3.1.2 user account desktop(only showing up on 1 user out of 6) - none of which I can enter as I require 'root access' how do I hide/remove them from the desktop - just wanting to tidy up a bit Hi Dave, to get rid of the icon just rightklick it and choose Delete from the menu. If you want to have it back, rightklick on your desktop and choose Create New Harddisk... I'm not sure, if the item names are 100 % correct, 'cause my desktop language isn't English. Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Gentoo Installfest (aka ditch RedHat (TM))
Nick Rout wrote: I asked a while ago for people to tell me what packages they want to install so I can cache the source files on my box. I got really only one response. The other important thing is, what kernels do people want to install? gentoo package up a number of kernel meta-packages from vanilla (what u get from kernel.org) to ac (Alan Cox patches, kernel guru) , gentoo-sources (highly patched by the gentoo team), gaming-sources (err.. for games i guess) and many more. you can browse what is available here: http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/pkgs/sys-kernel/index.xml I have gentoo-sources, I know Mr Sawtell uses xfs-sources. If there are any particular requests let me know asap and I'll max out the jetstart for a few more hours :-) Gentoo-sources will be fine with me. I'd like to use a German keymap und German fonts (to have these funny letters with the dots on top :)) on Gentoo, but I don't know, if that requires to download special packages. Has anybody experience with this? Thanx, Conrad.
Re: gentoo installfest requests please
Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:42:38 +0200 Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Nick! Sorry, but I've no idea which ones I actually need. At the moment I'm using the wine packages that Knoppix came with. Does one of the packages above support USB? Cheers, Conrad. How do I know? best you do some research and let me know what you want. try any/all of the following: #gentoo on irc.freenode.net http://forums.gentoo.org the gentoo-user mailing list (see links off http://www.gentoo.org - warning, highish volume, better accessed IMHO from the gmane news server) Hi Nick, I think, the following packages are what I'm looking for. app-emulation/XWine app-emulation/wine app-emulation/winesetuptk Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything on usb support for wine. Thanks for your time and bandwidth, Nick! Cheers, Conrad.
Re: gentoo installfest requests please
Nick Rout wrote: I want to make sure that the sources of any big packages people want to install are downloaded prior to the actual fest. I have the latest kde and openoffice sources, along with (hopefully) all the dependencies. I am downloading gnome now too (and compiling it just for fun). Any biggies let me know. I'll get them onto my box before the weekend. Oh and, bummer, I found out that xfree does not work with distcc :-( Do you also have the sources for Mozilla, Evolution, Gimp, Wine and teTeX? Cheers, Conrad.
Test run for Gentoo install fest
Sorry, but I won't make it to the meeting on Monday. This is particularly bad, because I won't be there for the test run of our Gentoo install fest next Saturday. My laptop is booting Nick's CD and I can get my NIC working. Is there anything else that could go wrong or that I should check? Chris mentioned in one of his posts that 3 partitions are needed for the Gentoo install. What do they have to look like (size, type) and what're they used for. On my current Debian system I've 1 swap and 1 ext2 (/) partition. For data I've got a FAT32 partition that I access from Linux and Windows. Cheers, Conrad. Nick Rout wrote: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start please don't post html to the list if you can help it. Its odd that the /etc/init.d/local script does not load the 3c59x module. the script cycles through all the available net modules and tries to insmod them. If one (perhaps the de4x5) hangs then it may give the symptoms you observe. can you give me the output of lsmod before and after you load the 3c59x module? On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:55:19 +0200 Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, this was supposed to go to the list, not only to Chris. Conrad. Original Message Subject: Re: Gentoo installfest ISO files Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:43:52 +0200 From: Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried it again and waited at least 20 min this time, but there is neither network nor CD activity. With the boot option 'nonet' this doesn't occur. I then get to the CL and can load 3c59x, but I've no idea how to start the network skript. Is there an equivalent to the Debian '/etc/init.d/networking start'? Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:09, Conrad Wolf wrote: Thanks Chris! I've downloaded the iso (checksum was ok) and burned it. When booting with the CD I get a boot promt, but then during the boot process the box freezes. The last output is something like 'Searching for de4x5'. I googled for it and found that de4x5 must be a nic module. That's somewhat obscure, because I've got a 3Com card which normally uses 3c59x.o. So does my machine and it works ok. How long did you wait? That phase takes quite a long time. Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:01, Conrad Wolf wrote: Sorry to ask, but how can I download from a http url in binary mode? When I downloaded the iso with Mozilla, the checksum and even the file size didn't match. For ftp I normally use the gftp package, but I couldn't connect to the http url with it. I've found the command line utility wget to be pretty well bombproof wget http://www.linuxnut.co.nz/dl/gentoo-distcc-clug-0.2.iso -- C. S. -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 3798966 Fax + 64 3 3798853 http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Test run for Gentoo install fest
What is the advantage of having a small boot partition. I boot my Debian system from a 5.4 GB partitions without any problems. Cheers, Conrad. Brad Beveridge wrote: I began installing gentoo on a laptop last night, my partitions are /dev/hda1 - ntfs (gah) /dev/hda2 - ext3, boot region, 30Mb (only needs to be large enough to fit 1 bzImage really) /dev/hda3 - 500Mb swap (you can use your Debian swap) /dev/hda4 - reiserfs for the rest. - reiser or ext3 is reccommended Brad -Original Message- From: Conrad Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:49 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test run for Gentoo install fest Sorry, but I won't make it to the meeting on Monday. This is particularly bad, because I won't be there for the test run of our Gentoo install fest next Saturday. My laptop is booting Nick's CD and I can get my NIC working. Is there anything else that could go wrong or that I should check? Chris mentioned in one of his posts that 3 partitions are needed for the Gentoo install. What do they have to look like (size, type) and what're they used for. On my current Debian system I've 1 swap and 1 ext2 (/) partition. For data I've got a FAT32 partition that I access from Linux and Windows. Cheers, Conrad. Nick Rout wrote: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start please don't post html to the list if you can help it. Its odd that the /etc/init.d/local script does not load the 3c59x module. the script cycles through all the available net modules and tries to insmod them. If one (perhaps the de4x5) hangs then it may give the symptoms you observe. can you give me the output of lsmod before and after you load the 3c59x module? On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:55:19 +0200 Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, this was supposed to go to the list, not only to Chris. Conrad. Original Message Subject: Re: Gentoo installfest ISO files Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:43:52 +0200 From: Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]200306232109.39787.csawt [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried it again and waited at least 20 min this time, but there is neither network nor CD activity. With the boot option 'nonet' this doesn't occur. I then get to the CL and can load 3c59x, but I've no idea how to start the network skript. Is there an equivalent to the Debian '/etc/init.d/networking start'? Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:09, Conrad Wolf wrote: Thanks Chris! I've downloaded the iso (checksum was ok) and burned it. When booting with the CD I get a boot promt, but then during the boot process the box freezes. The last output is something like 'Searching for de4x5'. I googled for it and found that de4x5 must be a nic module. That's somewhat obscure, because I've got a 3Com card which normally uses 3c59x.o. So does my machine and it works ok. How long did you wait? That phase takes quite a long time. Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:01, Conrad Wolf wrote: Sorry to ask, but how can I download from a http url in binary mode? When I downloaded the iso with Mozilla, the checksum and even the file size didn't match. For ftp I normally use the gftp package, but I couldn't connect to the http url with it. I've found the command line utility wget to be pretty well bombproof wget http://www.linuxnut.co.nz/dl/gentoo-distcc-clug-0.2.iso -- C. S. -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 3798966 Fax + 64 3 3798853 http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Test run for Gentoo install fest
Thanx Brad! If it is better style, I'll consider a seperate /boot partition. By the way, Google says that Grub supports ext3 as well as reiserfs. Could anybody tell me what the advantages/ disadvantages of a 'journaling' file system over ext2 are. And how compare reiserfs and ext3 to each other? Which one should I go for (I use ext2 at the moment)? Cheers, Conrad. Brad Beveridge wrote: Safety - generally (under gentoo) /boot is not mounted, or only mounted RO. So you will always be able to boot. However, since I have (repeatedly) dumped bzImage files into /boot _without_ it being mounted, I now mount my /boot partition in fstab. So much for safety. So I spose you can get away with a single partition, as long as your boot loader functions. What I mean, if you are using GRUB as a bootloader, your boot partition must be a filesystem it understands. Brad -Original Message- From: Conrad Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:57 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Test run for Gentoo install fest What is the advantage of having a small boot partition. I boot my Debian system from a 5.4 GB partitions without any problems. Cheers, Conrad. Brad Beveridge wrote: I began installing gentoo on a laptop last night, my partitions are /dev/hda1 - ntfs (gah) /dev/hda2 - ext3, boot region, 30Mb (only needs to be large enough to fit 1 bzImage really) /dev/hda3 - 500Mb swap (you can use your Debian swap) /dev/hda4 - reiserfs for the rest. - reiser or ext3 is reccommended Brad -Original Message- From: Conrad Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 26 June 2003 11:49 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test run for Gentoo install fest Sorry, but I won't make it to the meeting on Monday. This is particularly bad, because I won't be there for the test run of our Gentoo install fest next Saturday. My laptop is booting Nick's CD and I can get my NIC working. Is there anything else that could go wrong or that I should check? Chris mentioned in one of his posts that 3 partitions are needed for the Gentoo install. What do they have to look like (size, type) and what're they used for. On my current Debian system I've 1 swap and 1 ext2 (/) partition. For data I've got a FAT32 partition that I access from Linux and Windows. Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Gentoo installfest ISO files
Sorry to ask, but how can I download from a http url in binary mode? When I downloaded the iso with Mozilla, the checksum and even the file size didn't match. For ftp I normally use the gftp package, but I couldn't connect to the http url with it. Cheers, Conrad. Nick Rout wrote: These are now housed here: http://www.linuxnut.co.nz/dl/ except the README which Chris H doesn't seem to have downloaded, and which is here: http://rout.dyndns.org/gentoolive/README
Re: Gentoo installfest ISO files
Nick Rout wrote: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start please don't post html to the list if you can help it. Ups! That wasn't my intention. Won't happen again :). Its odd that the /etc/init.d/local script does not load the 3c59x module. the script cycles through all the available net modules and tries to insmod them. If one (perhaps the de4x5) hangs then it may give the symptoms you observe. can you give me the output of lsmod before and after you load the 3c59x module? # lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted cloop 5584 1 # modprobe 3c59x There was a warning when I modprobed the module, but it was loaded fine anyway. Unfortunately I can't remeber what it was saying and I didn't redirect it into a file. Is it important? # lsmod Module Size Used byNot tainted 3c59x 26032 0 (unused) cloop 5584 1 # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start After running the networking script, my dhcp connection was working. Is there a way that I can test distcc on my computer now? Cheers, Conrad. On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:55:19 +0200 Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, this was supposed to go to the list, not only to Chris. Conrad. Original Message Subject: Re: Gentoo installfest ISO files Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:43:52 +0200 From: Conrad Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried it again and waited at least 20 min this time, but there is neither network nor CD activity. With the boot option 'nonet' this doesn't occur. I then get to the CL and can load 3c59x, but I've no idea how to start the network skript. Is there an equivalent to the Debian '/etc/init.d/networking start'? Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:09, Conrad Wolf wrote: Thanks Chris! I've downloaded the iso (checksum was ok) and burned it. When booting with the CD I get a boot promt, but then during the boot process the box freezes. The last output is something like 'Searching for de4x5'. I googled for it and found that de4x5 must be a nic module. That's somewhat obscure, because I've got a 3Com card which normally uses 3c59x.o. So does my machine and it works ok. How long did you wait? That phase takes quite a long time. Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:01, Conrad Wolf wrote: Sorry to ask, but how can I download from a http url in binary mode? When I downloaded the iso with Mozilla, the checksum and even the file size didn't match. For ftp I normally use the gftp package, but I couldn't connect to the http url with it. I've found the command line utility wget to be pretty well bombproof wget http://www.linuxnut.co.nz/dl/gentoo-distcc-clug-0.2.iso -- C. S. -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 3798966 Fax + 64 3 3798853 http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Now available:Gentoo installfest - can someone host a 50M iso?
Is this a NZ site and am I charged for NZ traffic only if I download it from within UC? Cheers, Conrad. Nick Rout wrote: The gentoo-distcc-clug iso is now available for testing. Please download it and try it. http://rout.dyndns.org/gentoolive/ (make sure you include the trailing /). There a 3 files, the iso, an md5sum and a README. The readme also comes up on the web page. Chris H said he will host the file too, so that may be an announcement later today. If you have difficulties downloading it may be my jetstart connection which periodically goes down. It would be cool to have some feedback Please report errors, successes etc to this list. If the traffic gets too big I will start another list. Nick On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:03:46 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone out there who can host a small (50MB) .iso file I have developed for the gentoo installfest? I want a few people to download, write and test it. Hopefully you won't get more than 5-10 downloads, but if it needs fixing we might have to do it again! It would soon blow out my 600 MB monthly limit on the work account, and the home account is a tad slow/unreliable. For those interested, it is a customised gentoo live boot cd, incorporating gcc and distcc. It is designed like a regular gentoo livecd (or knoppix) to run without touching the hard drive or otherwise screwing your computer. This means our server farm will all be running the same version of gcc, and it also means any machine can be put to use, even if it is normally a windows machine. It just needs a cdrom drive, a reasonable amount of RAM and a linux compatible network card (ie supported in the standard 2.4.20 kernel). Anyway, anyone out there with a decent connection and a bit of spare bandwidth let me know. I have just done a few tweaks and need to write a README. Then I'll be ready to upload it and make an announcement. Nick. PS ftp access would be good so I can upload - maybe a separate directory with its own upload password? Demanding aren't I! --
Re: Gentoo installfest
What about .deb packages? Brad Beveridge wrote: An 'emerge rpm' will let you install RPM packages on Gentoo. -Original Message- From: Hamish McBrearty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 1:11 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gentoo installfest My appologies if this has already been answered (my mail server ate most Clug messages last week) but have we settled on a date for this installfest? I have the oppotunity to buy a fairly high octane machine cheap at the moment and would like to try Gentoo out. Also I seem to remember someone saying Gentoo has not support for rpm's and the like. School's groupware client is only availible as an rpm, anyway I could install it under Gentoo? - Hamish McBrearty MCSE MCSA Network Engineer Rangi Ruru Girls' School 59 Hewitts Road Christchurch NEW ZEALAND Ph 03 355-6099 Fax 03 355-6027 CELL 021 999770 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Now available:Gentoo installfest - can someone host a 50M iso?
Thanks for the info, but for some reason I can't connect to that URL. Any ideas why? Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:15, Conrad Wolf wrote: Is this a NZ site and am I charged for NZ traffic only if I download it from within UC? It's a machine here in Christchurch. if the UC need a .nz name you could use this instead, it's the same machine: http://203-96-145-203.adsl.paradise.net.nz/gentoolive/ Cheers, Conrad. Nick Rout wrote: The gentoo-distcc-clug iso is now available for testing. Please download it and try it. http://rout.dyndns.org/gentoolive/ (make sure you include the trailing /). There a 3 files, the iso, an md5sum and a README. The readme also comes up on the web page. Chris H said he will host the file too, so that may be an announcement later today. If you have difficulties downloading it may be my jetstart connection which periodically goes down. It would be cool to have some feedback Please report errors, successes etc to this list. If the traffic gets too big I will start another list. Nick On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:03:46 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyone out there who can host a small (50MB) .iso file I have developed for the gentoo installfest? I want a few people to download, write and test it. Hopefully you won't get more than 5-10 downloads, but if it needs fixing we might have to do it again! It would soon blow out my 600 MB monthly limit on the work account, and the home account is a tad slow/unreliable. For those interested, it is a customised gentoo live boot cd, incorporating gcc and distcc. It is designed like a regular gentoo livecd (or knoppix) to run without touching the hard drive or otherwise screwing your computer. This means our server farm will all be running the same version of gcc, and it also means any machine can be put to use, even if it is normally a windows machine. It just needs a cdrom drive, a reasonable amount of RAM and a linux compatible network card (ie supported in the standard 2.4.20 kernel). Anyway, anyone out there with a decent connection and a bit of spare bandwidth let me know. I have just done a few tweaks and need to write a README. Then I'll be ready to upload it and make an announcement. Nick. PS ftp access would be good so I can upload - maybe a separate directory with its own upload password? Demanding aren't I! --
kernel source for Knoppix
Hi all! I'm using Debian (installed via Knoppix 3.2) for a while now and I really like it. Now I've reached the point where I'd like to compile a custom kernel for my Nvidia graphics card, but I can't find the source for my kernel 2.4.20-xfs. I found some posts on the knoppix.net page telling me that I could download the 2.4.20 source and patch the kernel myself, but I'd rather like to get an allready patched version to keep things as simple as possible. Any ideas/ hints? Cheers, Conrad.
Some questions on Gentoo
Hi! With the Gentoo install fest coming up, I'd like to ask a couple of silly questions. I've done some research on www.gentoo.org myself, but some points are still not clear to me, yet. 1. As I understood the documentation, the portage tree consists of the ebuild files of all packages currently part of Gentoo. How big are these files and how much data would I have to download each time I 'emerge sync'? 2. As I further understood, the ebuilds contain the location where the source can be retrieved. Does this imply that the sorces have to be downloaded from the actual project sites (eg. www.gimp.org) or are the sources available from the Gentoo mirrors? 3. How long is the compile time for a medium sized package, say eg. gimp again? I know that this is a silly question and can't be answered directly, because it'll of course depend on my hardware. But if you could compare the compile time of a package to the compile time of a 2.4.x kernel, it'd give me a hint what I'd have to expect on my machine (P4M 1.8). 4. And finally, if there're packages which have not yet an ebuild in portage, how difficult will it be to compile those without the compiling tools of portage? I hope these questions are not too silly, but I couldn't find out myself. Thanks for any comments/ replies! Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Gentoo Installfest
Christopher Sawtell wrote: OK. How does Saturday 05/july/03 suit folks? That's the Saturday immediately after the next CLUG meeting on Monday 30/june/2000. I think we need some time at the meeting to try out the distcc on Knoppix idea and to tie up the inevitable few ends etc. This date would be ok for me, too. I can bring a P4 1.8 MHz as well as a Knoppix 3.2 copy. Really looking forward to it. That's gonna be interesting. Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Debian CD wanted
Hi Jean-Charles, I could even offer you the first 4 CDs. Have you thought about installing via Knoppix, yet? Could be the easier way for you to get a Debian system. Cheers, Conrad. Jean-Charles Quillet wrote: Hi, I've just bought a second hand laptop and I'm lookink for a good operating system to put on it. Is there someone in Christchurch who has the two first CDs of the debian woody ? Cheers, Jean-Charles
Re: Gentoo Installfest
I'm interested, but not yet sure if I have enough spare space on my hd. Anyway, I could bring my P4M-1.8MHz laptop to help with the compiling. Cheers, Conrad. Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:26, you wrote: Well that is a good question Carl. Call you put your hands up please punters? This is the list so far. Installers / helpers Steve Brorens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Bayley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Installees == Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lance Blackler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Lilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I've put someone in the wrong group, please squeak. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:21 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I assume you mean the planning not the installfest? No. I meant the installfest. How many people want Gentoo installed anyway? 5-6? There should be plenty of room for that number. Or will the compiling take all night? Could well. -- C. S.
Re: Gentoo Installfest (was Re: OpenBSD)
Brad Beveridge wrote: I'm keen to help out. I've run Gentoo for over a year now so should know my way around it enough to help people out. I can also donate an Athlon 800Mhz box for distccing for the day. I would recommend that people installing already have either a working distro installed, or know exactly what their hardware is. Gentoo HW detection is lacking, and having working config files to reference against will save time. Brad Hi all! This seems to develop into an interesting little project. I'm not sure if I've got enough free space on my hd to install Gentoo on my laptop, but I'd defenitely be interested to at least have a look. I could bring along my laptop to add some comupter power. Concerning the config files one could run Knoppix before installing Gentoo and copy the Knoppix config files to hd. Cheers, Conrad.
Re: Online search with pybliographer? - was: Re: Sixpack installation (shell-script)
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: There isn't such thing, and I don't know whether it's planned, but there were some very capable and infomred sounding people on the pyblio mailing list discussing the general future of open source bibliography handling. They were discussing grand style though, and I concluded to not expect any practically usable bits soon. If I had plenty of spare time I'd learn python and see if something like this could be implemented. Hi again, Meanwhiele I found out that pybliographer can search on PubMed, but only on PubMed. If you're interested, try menu File - Medline Querry... Cheers, Conrad.
Online search with pybliographer? - was: Re: Sixpack installation (shell-script)
Hi Volker, I've had a look at pybliographer over the last couple of days an so far I like what I see. The only thing I couldn't find was an option for online searching (e.g. Web of Science, PubMed, ...) as it comes with Reference Manager for Windows. Is there something like a plugin doing the job or do I have to copy and paste all the fields from my browser window? Another thing I would be interested in is a LaTeX-editor which recognizes bibTeX-files and opens a window with available references each time I type '\cite'. I've installed Lyx yesterday, which seems to have this feature, but I'm not yet sure, if it is a good editor for LaTeX. Any recommendations? Cheers, Conrad. Volker Kuhlmann wrote: time, I'll give sixpack another try, because I've read some recommendations about it and the screenshots look also quite nice. Wonder how they did that - I found it looked rather ugly. Of course that's a matter of personal taste... Like all the debates about how to get software, installing things without the assistance of a Package Manager requires you to understand your environment well, and to learn the package itself well. Once you do that, you have full flexibility to do what you want. Not that I'm interested in discussing the merits of perl, but I disagree with that statement. For any decent GNU program I run ./configure; make and be finished. Even for non-GNU programs a simple make usually works. In comparison, perl hardly ever works as simply. Along your lines of argumentation, does that mean most perl programs are broken? I don't know much about perl or its packaging system (and don't intend to change that), that's why I refuse to run some perl installer of to me unknown crappiness as root. Spamassassin installs well, and as non-root. Perl-rpms hardly ever work when installed on a system other than the one they were made on, C programs often do, especially when they're simple GUI ones such as sixpack. You can argue whatever, perl is more trouble to install than C. Your point about users, time and source can be extended to installation. I shouldn't need to learn perl to install a perl app... Maybe we should continue this discussion over a sixpack ;) IMHO perl + GUI = useless combination, so don't waste your time and get something with a future instead. IM not-so HO, the choice of the underlying language is utterly irrelevant to an end-user. Not quite. The point I was getting at was that, by choice of perl + GUI, the result will be bloated and slow. I have doubts this can be fixed. pybliographic starts up several times faster than sixpack, and is much more responsive. Python is known to be much more efficient (actually close to/same as C++, there's a paper on that). This is end-user relevant, indirectly maybe. The myth of open-source is that any user can fix the distributed code to do what they want. This is simply not true - it requires skills and time that most users don't have. Different topic, but true. We all still prefer open source, and know why. Volker
Re: OH NO !!
Hi Paul, I'm new on the list and looking for the installation CDs for Debian. Yesterday at the meeting I was told that you would possibly sell them. Have you got the CDs for release 3.0 'woody'? Cheers, Conrad Paul Swafford wrote: for those of you using Gentoo .. terrible news .. Gentoo to adopt RPM .. read about this travesty here http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030401-newsletter.xml ah well back to apt-get :) Cheers Paul
GNOME or KDE
Hi all! I'm a new linux user and wondering at the moment whether to use the GNOME or KDE desktop. Can anybody give me a hint what the differences/ pros and cons are? Thanks! Conrad
Debian distribution
Hi again, I'm still looking for the Debian Release 3.0 'woody'. Only CD1 won't help me much, 'cause downloading most of the packages would become expensive for me. But David, thanks anyway! A copy of the testing release 3.1 'sarge' would also be fine. Cheers, Conrad.
Debian GNU/Linux
Hi together, has anybody got the installation CDs for the Debian stable release 3.0 'woody'? Cheers, Conrad
