RE: Another old SCSI request

2010-06-03 Thread Maurice Butler
i will dig it out tomorrow and post the details

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:58 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Another old SCSI request


Could you tell us about the scanner please?


On 3 June 2010 17:53, Maurice Butler likema...@quicksilver.net.nz wrote:


Hi,
I have got a couple of compaq/hp dlts that's are se, may even be able to
find a couple of tapes for them.
Also got a scanner that's about 8 years old - never been out of the box in
garage if you are interested.

Maurice


 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Renaud [mailto:an...@bluewatersys.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2010 1:12 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Another old SCSI request


 Hello,
 A few months ago I asked on this list if anyone had any older
 SCSI gear.
 I received some responses and am now sorted on that front.
 However now I
 am on the look-out for some older SCSI differential (HVD) equipment.
 Either a hard disk or a tape drive would be perfect, but failing that
 I'd accept any HVD device at all.

 Does anyone have any of these floating around? Please contact me
 off-list if you do.

 I hope this isn't too far off topic - it peripherally relates to Linux
 via the Linux-based SCSI device we are developing.

 Regards,
 Andre







-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell




RE: Another old SCSI request

2010-06-03 Thread Maurice Butler
 -Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 5:58 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Another old SCSI request



Could you tell us about the scanner please?

  

 It is a Mustek Paragon 1200 III SP Plus with PCI scsi card 
Scan speed 1.5ms/line
Scan Area 21.6x29.2
Scan mode 
colour 36bit internal
gray mode 12bit Internal
Scan method single pass
Resolution
600 X1200 dpi
 
Maurice


RE: Another old SCSI request

2010-06-02 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
I have got a couple of compaq/hp dlts that's are se, may even be able to
find a couple of tapes for them.
Also got a scanner that's about 8 years old - never been out of the box in
garage if you are interested.

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Renaud [mailto:an...@bluewatersys.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2010 1:12 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Another old SCSI request
 
 
 Hello,
 A few months ago I asked on this list if anyone had any older 
 SCSI gear.
 I received some responses and am now sorted on that front. 
 However now I
 am on the look-out for some older SCSI differential (HVD) equipment.
 Either a hard disk or a tape drive would be perfect, but failing that
 I'd accept any HVD device at all.
 
 Does anyone have any of these floating around? Please contact me
 off-list if you do.
 
 I hope this isn't too far off topic - it peripherally relates to Linux
 via the Linux-based SCSI device we are developing.
 
 Regards,
 Andre
 



RE: OT: Laptop power supply

2010-05-28 Thread Maurice Butler

If it is a standard two wire brik one of the same voltage and at least the
same amps will be fine.

If the wire between the brick and the laptop is the only bit damage a person
handy with a soldering iron would be able to sort it for you.

After market relacements on trademe are about $90

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) 
 [mailto:peter.glassenb...@canterbury.ac.nz] 
 Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 3:46 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: OT: Laptop power supply
 
 
 On 28/05/10 14:31, Roy Britten wrote:
  The power supply for SWMBO's Compaq Presario laptop has a failure in
  the low-voltage cord (the one that runs from the brick to the
  laptop). Molten Media  Computer Broker apparently can't supply a
  replacement. If anyone on list could offer a replacement 
 (for purchase
  or loan) SWMBO would be overjoyed.
 
  Replies best off-list, methinks.
 
  You may now return to your on-topic lives.
 
 Not sure if we may have one or not... but a reply to on-list
 as we had an experience that almost went sour...
 Laptop power unit died. Borrowed another power unit from same
 brand with same voltage specs..(not same model)
 
 I think it worked for the recharge... but when it was returned
 it failed to charge the original owners laptop. Kept giving
 errors. It came right after a day.
 The Hardware experts here said that mixing power blocks between
 modern laptops is dangerous(for your laptop) in that they have
 extra circuitry to help the charge the battery. They vary
 between brands and even within a brand. You should get
 a replacement for the same MODEL .. not just the same BRAND.
 
 Pete
 (Just passing on warning as was described to me... excuse E  OE)
 
 -- 
 ---
 Peter Glassenbury Computer Science department
 p...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nzUniversity of Canterbury
 +64 3 3642987 ext 7762New Zealand



RE: cable testing?

2010-03-03 Thread Maurice Butler
Check that you are wiring both ends to the same standard - A or B not one of
each - It does pays to check the obvious somes times(says he who spend 2
hours fault finding a blown fuse)

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:nick.r...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2010 9:49 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: cable testing?
 
 
 I have run a couple of cat5e cables and I am trying to terminate them,
 unsuccessfully at present.
 
 Will a cable tester help me? I suspect that each time I put a plug on
 the end one or more of the wires is in the wrong place, or not quite
 long enough to make the connection. Coupled with this I am only 90%
 sure which cable end is which at the switch end (ie the centre of the
 star), having failed to mark them.
 
 Is there some sort of cable tester that can, eg, tell me what wires
 are right and what are wrong, and which end of the cable is wired
 wrong?
 
 And, heres the hit, can someone in ChCh  lend me one?
 
 Desperate and frustrated in Linwood.
 
 N



RE: cable testing?

2010-03-03 Thread Maurice Butler

Most of the electrical wholesalers stock satelite, audio, network gear now
days

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Hadley Rich [mailto:h...@nice.net.nz] 
 Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2010 8:48 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: cable testing?
 
 
 On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 19:43 +1300, Ryan McCoskrie wrote:
  Dad (who has been doing this as a living since I was born) says to
  talk to Shane at Rexel. 
 
 Yeah, I buy all that sort of stuff off Rexel too.
 
 hads
 
 -- 
 http://nicegear.co.nz
 New Zealand's Open Source Hardware Supplier
 



RE: Shared access folders in Ubuntu Karmic for Music and the like?

2010-02-03 Thread Maurice Butler
I created a directory in my /home called shared

Created a group called localshare
Added all the user to this
Change the permissions on the /home/shared directory so localshare group had
rights
Create symbolic links for the users that don't know there away around

Learn lots in the process and wonder why they don't do it for you as a
matter of course

Maurice


 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Sands [mailto:and...@theatrix.org.nz] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2010 11:43 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz; nz...@linux.net.nz
 Subject: Shared access folders in Ubuntu Karmic for Music and 
 the like?
 
 
 Anyone,
 
 Even though I do know that drive space is cheap, I'd like to try and 
 implement univerally shared folders for Music, Pictures and 
 Videos on my 
   recently installed Ubuntu Karmic.
 
 My search queries via Google only found references to people 
 sharing via 
 samba and not on the local machine.
 
 Any pointers to where I could look would be appreciated.
 
 regards,
 
 Andrew



RE: Volunteer

2010-01-30 Thread Maurice Butler
Try ring around the schools

 -Original Message-
 From: Solor Vox [mailto:solor...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Friday, 29 January 2010 10:37 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Volunteer
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Since I've been out of work for a few months, I decided to look for
 some IT related volunteer opportunities.  However, I've spent the
 better part of a day looking around CHCH.  It seems the libraries
 don't take volunteers, universities have no openings, and the
 volunteer centre had nothing either.  Wouldn't have thought it would
 be hard to find people looking for help in IT.  Just figures as when
 I'm employed, people are always asking for me to fix things for them
 on my own time.
 
 So does anyone need, or know someone who needs IT help?  (some
 examples below)  Still looking for work so my schedule is very open at
 the moment.
 
 Linux (of course) almost all distributions, DOS, Win 3.x-Vista (not
 used w7 yet thankfully)
 IT security iptables/snort/nmap/nessus/kismet/pen 
 testing/wireless audits
 Apache/PHP/MySQL/HTML/CSS
 Samba/LDAP/Bind
 Hardware desktops/servers/upgrades/repairs/etc.
 Networking 10Base2, 10BaseT, UTP, Fibre, switches, routers, etc.
 Some patches to C/C++ code
 Sysadmin/bash
 Beta testing (Microsoft [yeah I know everyone is, but I was closed
 beta tester], Blizzard, and others)
 
 Cheers,
 sV



RE: Allocating unused drive space to a root partition

2009-09-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
After spending today testing at work I have suddenly become a fan of LVM
that gets around this problem

http://linuxbsdos.com/2008/11/11/lvm-configuration-in-ubuntu-810/

All my futher installs (home  work) are going to be using LVM including
some servers we are setting up

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: ke...@katipo.net.nz [mailto:ke...@katipo.net.nz] 
 Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 2:02 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Allocating unused drive space to a root partition
 
 
 On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:59:09 +1200, Craig Falconer
 cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote:
  steve wrote, On 16/09/09 09:18:
  Alternatively ( SIMPLEST SOLUTION! ), mounting the spare 
 9GB as /var
  or /usr and copying the stuff over may give you enough 
 space... copy,
  then remove when happy! - you'll need a live CD to do that.
 
  Excellent solution - I agree with Steve.
 
 Thanks for all your pointers, I think I'll go for the solution below  
 for now, then get a 1T HD soonish
 Sorry for double posting, my hosting provider was having some issues  
 last night and I assumed my first post got lost in the void.
 
 Regards,
 Kerry
 
 
 



RE: Allocating unused drive space to a root partition

2009-09-16 Thread Maurice Butler
LVM achives the fact you create small partions - the size you need at the
time of the install, leaving spare space that you can allocate to partions
as required. The partions can be formated to what ever your favourate file
system.

This is a better link as it explains the history and the benfits

http://linuxbsdos.com/2008/09/24/the-benefits-of-using-linux-logical-volume-
manager/

 don't like articles that don't state what they are trying achieve or
 what LVM does

Will bear you point in mind in future

Maurice



RE: resizing a full partition

2009-09-15 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
The linux swap is miles to big.
This is what I would do.
1. backup - data etc
2. boot off life cd or usb
3. may need to turn swap off on harddisk if live cd use it (swapoff
/dev/sda7)
4. reduce the swap partion(create new partion - 1Gb, delete old partion -
miles to big anyway) towards the fat partion and leave the free space
towards the /home (could turn swap backon - swapon //dev/sda?)
5. reduce/move(create new partion, copy the data, delete old partion) the
home partion towards the swap
6. grow the home partion
7. update /etc/fstab on your orginal installation to reflect new partion
numbers if they have changed
8. reboot

The alternative is to see how big some of the directories are in the root
partion create a partion in the spare space for the biggest directory and
relocate that directory there, effectively freeing space in the root
partion. 

Some distros install files for application and updates can grow quite large
over a period of time and need the dead wood cleaned out.

Have fun 

Maurice



 -Original Message-
 From: Kerry [mailto:ke...@katipo.net.nz] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2009 7:02 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: resizing a full partition
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I've nearly run out of disk space on the root partition of my 
 Kubuntu 9.04 
 machine. I have around 10G of unallocated space at the end of 
 my drive and I 
 am wondering how I can safely allocate some of this space to root?
 
 I've taken a screenshot of the partition on gparted and you 
 can check that our 
 here: http://manukadesign.co.nz/assets/Images/screen_shot_gparted.png
 
 I've had a pit of a google but all info seemed to be a few years old
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Kerry



RE: measurement software for electrical networks?

2009-09-07 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi Wesley,
Have you tried forcing your modem to a fixed speed like 33k so it is not
always trying to auonegiate a faster speed and forgetting to actually
transfer data?
I tend to do this for my rural friends who are still on dialup - not the
sort thing you would expect in the city
Maurice


 -Original Message-
 From: Wesley Parish [mailto:wes.par...@paradise.net.nz] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 8:48 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
 
 
 Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I 
 have disproved a 
 couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far 
 at Telecom and 
 Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, 
 and it's still 
 falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of 
 him; and I've 
 just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like 
 aforementioned drunk.
 
 I'm starting to think I deserve broadband purely on the 
 demerits of Telecom's 
 performance, as compensation for Telecom's lack thereof.
 
 At any rate, having to open ten tabs of slashdot to guarantee 
 getting even 
 one, is a bit much.
 
 And if I have to use a 526k DSL thingee to solve the problems 
 with a dial-up 
 connection - at a measly 5k6 (if I'm lucky) - perhaps the 
 problem isn't with 
 me.
 
 On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Wesley Parish wrote:
  I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could 
 use to get hard
  copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet 
 connection via
  Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines.
 
  They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute 
 to a quarter of
  an hour, and I'd like to document that.  I may well decide 
 to start a
  class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the 
 general public, and
  having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important.
 
  Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - 
 when Telecom's
  lines permit me to ask.  Telecom's mastered the art of 
 punishing people for
  preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art 
 of punishing them
  for using Telecom.
 
  Wesley Parish
 
 
 
 -- 
 Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
 -
 George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, 
 tell them what an Ocarina really is: 
 an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. 
 -
 Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
 You ask, what is the most important thing?
 Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
 I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.



RE: Anyone else in Chch with broadband down?

2009-08-13 Thread Maurice Butler

 
 on xtra adsl in central city and don't seem to be affected. One of the
 secretaries complained about 9.00 am that the internet wasn't working
 but it came right almost straight away (so could have been some other
 problem like xtra's c**p dns service.

That's why opendns is so popular



RE: Linux and ModBus

2009-07-10 Thread Maurice Butler
I have writtern modbus driver for in the past(1990s) a Fisher  Paykel PSC2,
PLC with a serial port.

The protocal is very easy with a 16 bit CRC. It is still used by some
weather station stuff etc. 

Snached from automation.com

November 2, 2007 - NORTH HILLS, CA - A white paper, titled Using MODBUS for
Process Control and Automation, is available for download from Moore
Industries. The non-commercial white paper, written by Vince Marchant, a
senior application engineer at Moore Industries, describes how Modbus works,
and how it can be used in new and legacy process control and automation
systems. The white paper can be downloaded directly from:
www.miinet.com/whatsnew/articles/Using_MODBUS_for_Process_Control_and_Automa
tion.pdf.

The white paper explains that MODBUS is the most popular industrial protocol
being used today, for good reasons. It is simple, inexpensive, universal and
easy to use. Even though MODBUS has been around since the past century -
nearly 30 years - almost all major industrial instrumentation and automation
equipment vendors continue to support it in new products. Although new
analyzers, flowmeters and PLCs may have a wireless, Ethernet or fieldbus
interface, MODBUS is still the protocol that most vendors choose to
implement in new and old devices.

The white paper notes that another advantage of MODBUS is that it can run
over virtually all communication media, including twisted pair wires,
wireless, fiber optics, Ethernet, telephone modems, cell phones and
microwave. This means that a MODBUS connection can be established in a new
or existing plant fairly easily. In fact, one growing application for MODBUS
is providing digital communications in older plants, using existing twisted
pair wiring. 

Maurice Butler


 -Original Message-
 From: yuri [mailto:yur...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 8:59 p.m.
 To: CLUG
 Subject: Linux and ModBus
 
 
 Does anyone on this list know anything about controlling ModBus relay
 boards from a linux box?



RE: iptables...

2008-11-21 Thread Maurice Butler
 Does anyone have any simple rules out there to enable the following:
 
 eth0 local
 eth1 dmz
 eth2 internet
 
 all local can see dmz and internet
 all dmz can see only internet

Have a look at ipcop's tables - these are from my box - been messed by
addons

Maurice


/etc/rc.d/rc.firewall


#!/bin/sh
#
# $Id: rc.firewall,v 1.7.2.24 2007/11/17 08:12:29 owes Exp $
#

eval $(/usr/local/bin/readhash /var/ipcop/ppp/settings)
eval $(/usr/local/bin/readhash /var/ipcop/ethernet/settings)
if [ -f /var/ipcop/red/iface ]; then
IFACE=`/bin/cat /var/ipcop/red/iface 2 /dev/null | /usr/bin/tr -d
'\012'`
fi
if [ -f /var/ipcop/red/device ]; then
DEVICE=`/bin/cat /var/ipcop/red/device 2 /dev/null | /usr/bin/tr -d
'\012'`
fi

iptables_init() {
# Flush all rules and delete all custom chains
/sbin/iptables -F
/sbin/iptables -t nat -F
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -F
/sbin/iptables -X
/sbin/iptables -t nat -X
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -X

# Set up policies
/sbin/iptables -P INPUT DROP
/sbin/iptables -P FORWARD DROP
/sbin/iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT

# Empty LOG_DROP and LOG_REJECT chains
/sbin/iptables -N LOG_DROP
/sbin/iptables -A LOG_DROP   -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG
/sbin/iptables -A LOG_DROP   -j DROP
/sbin/iptables -N LOG_REJECT
/sbin/iptables -A LOG_REJECT -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG
/sbin/iptables -A LOG_REJECT -j REJECT

# This chain will log, then DROPs packets with certain bad
combinations
# of flags might indicate a port-scan attempt (xmas, null, etc)
/sbin/iptables -N PSCAN
/sbin/iptables -A PSCAN -p tcp  -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG
--log-prefix TCP Scan? 
/sbin/iptables -A PSCAN -p udp  -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG
--log-prefix UDP Scan? 
/sbin/iptables -A PSCAN -p icmp -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG
--log-prefix ICMP Scan? 
/sbin/iptables -A PSCAN -f  -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG
--log-prefix FRAG Scan? 
/sbin/iptables -A PSCAN -j DROP

# New tcp packets without SYN set - could well be an obscure type of
port scan
# that's not covered above, may just be a broken windows machine
/sbin/iptables -N NEWNOTSYN
/sbin/iptables -A NEWNOTSYN  -m limit --limit 10/minute -j LOG
--log-prefix NEW not SYN? 
/sbin/iptables -A NEWNOTSYN  -j DROP

# Chain to contain all the rules relating to bad TCP flags
/sbin/iptables -N BADTCP

# Disallow packets frequently used by port-scanners
# nmap xmas
/sbin/iptables -A BADTCP -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN,URG,PSH  -j
PSCAN
# Null
/sbin/iptables -A BADTCP -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL NONE -j PSCAN
# FIN
/sbin/iptables -A BADTCP -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN -j PSCAN
# SYN/RST (also catches xmas variants that set SYN+RST+...)
/sbin/iptables -A BADTCP -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN,RST -j PSCAN
# SYN/FIN (QueSO or nmap OS probe)
/sbin/iptables -A BADTCP -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,FIN SYN,FIN -j PSCAN
# NEW TCP without SYN
/sbin/iptables -A BADTCP -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j
NEWNOTSYN

/sbin/iptables -A INPUT   -j BADTCP
/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -j BADTCP

}

iptables_red() {
/sbin/iptables -F REDINPUT
/sbin/iptables -F REDFORWARD
/sbin/iptables -t nat -F REDNAT

# PPPoE / PPTP Device
if [ $IFACE !=  ]; then
# PPPoE / PPTP
if [ $DEVICE !=  ]; then
/sbin/iptables -A REDINPUT -i $DEVICE -j ACCEPT
fi
if [ $RED_TYPE == PPTP -o $RED_TYPE == PPPOE ]; then
if [ $RED_DEV !=  ]; then
/sbin/iptables -A REDINPUT -i $RED_DEV -j
ACCEPT
fi
fi
fi

# PPTP over DHCP
if [ $DEVICE !=  -a $TYPE == PPTP -a $METHOD == DHCP ];
then
/sbin/iptables -A REDINPUT -p tcp --source-port 67
--destination-port 68 -i $DEVICE -j ACCEPT
/sbin/iptables -A REDINPUT -p udp --source-port 67
--destination-port 68 -i $DEVICE -j ACCEPT
fi

# Orange pinholes
if [ $ORANGE_DEV !=  ]; then
# This rule enables a host on ORANGE network to connect to
the outside
# (only if we have a red connection)
if [ $IFACE !=  ]; then
/sbin/iptables -A REDFORWARD -i $ORANGE_DEV -p tcp
-o $IFACE -j ACCEPT
/sbin/iptables -A REDFORWARD -i $ORANGE_DEV -p udp
-o $IFACE -j ACCEPT
fi
fi

if [ $IFACE !=  -a -f /var/ipcop/red/active ]; then
# DHCP
if [ $RED_DEV !=  -a $RED_TYPE == DHCP ]; then
/sbin/iptables -A 

Ubuntu server 8.10 and via processor

2008-11-08 Thread Maurice Butler
hi,
 
This was the plan 
 
Hardware
  EPIA-EK motherboard with 1 Gb VIA Luke CoreFusion Processor, 1 Gb Ram, two
network ports, sata, ide, usb, etc
  120 Gb hard disk
  Digium tdp400p
 
Software
 Ubuntu server 8.10 (because quite a few here use ubuntu, looked like it
would meet my requirements) hosting virtual machines with Ipcop, Astrix,
lamp
 
Problem 
installs but does not boot as it comes up with 'kernel requires pae cx8'
known issue but not mention in minimum hardware requirements
 
 
do it persevere with ubuntu or look at something else
 
 
Maurice
Still trying to ween off windows
 



RE: Ubuntu server 8.10 and via processor

2008-11-08 Thread Maurice Butler
I have a licence for vmware (work supplied for testing and experimenting).
 I was going to look at options once I got the system to boot and test the
hardware ($200 all up on trademe so far).

Maurice Butler

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, 9 November 2008 8:05 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Ubuntu server 8.10 and via processor
 
 
 ... you're not trying to use xen are you? tbh you really 
 haven't got enough grunt for virtual servers ):
 
 On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:54:42 +1300
 Maurice Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hi,
   
  This was the plan 
   
  Hardware
EPIA-EK motherboard with 1 Gb VIA Luke CoreFusion 
 Processor, 1 Gb Ram, two
  network ports, sata, ide, usb, etc
120 Gb hard disk
Digium tdp400p
   
  Software
   Ubuntu server 8.10 (because quite a few here use ubuntu, 
 looked like it
  would meet my requirements) hosting virtual machines with 
 Ipcop, Astrix,
  lamp
   
  Problem 
  installs but does not boot as it comes up with 'kernel 
 requires pae cx8'
  known issue but not mention in minimum hardware requirements
   
   
  do it persevere with ubuntu or look at something else
   
   
  Maurice
  Still trying to ween off windows
   
  
 
 
 -- 
 Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: laptop blanking

2008-10-23 Thread Maurice Butler


 
 What have i missed which is permitting screen blanking
 
 TIA
 
 Barry
 

Check bios settings - sometimes they over ride other settings

Maurice



RE: The Gooey Kbuntu Mess...

2008-10-22 Thread Maurice Butler

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:36 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: The Gooey Kbuntu Mess...
 
 
 Don: IMHO  FWIW, building a Linux from scratch [1] or a Gentoo system
 [2] would be a very worthwhile exercise for you to do.
 
 [1] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/
 
 It would, I'm sure, be a very educational exercise for all of the rest
 of us too. :-)
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sincerely etc.
 Christopher Sawtell

Do you really what a not stop commentry for the days it will take don
together?

Maurice - still lurking - just putting my 2c in



network monitoring SNMP

2008-09-25 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi all,
 
I have started a new job with 100's of computers, switches and routers. 
 
I was looking at net-SNMP and MRTG to monitor the switches and routers for
traffic and cpu utilisation.
 
Any suggestions of anything else I should evaluate ?
 
 
Thanks Maurice



RE: OT: Happy Millionth Moore Day to Me!

2008-09-12 Thread Maurice Butler


 -Original Message-
 From: John Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 12:05 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: OT: Happy Millionth Moore Day to Me!
 
 
 On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 
  But don't you miss Fortran 2 - computed gotos, no block ifs? I once
 wrote a little program to number my punched cards in cols 73-80 with
 the first 4 letters of the function and then a number. I got smacked
 when the function in question was called analysis...
 
 
 State Machines are the embedded development flavour of the month?
 year? (god forbid) decade? but are nothing more than multi-threaded
 tangle of computed goto's with a roll your own scheduler in drag. :-))
 

Embedded developers have realised it is the way to avoid most of the evils
spagetti code and why Control Data Corp has implemeted state machines in
hardware  AMD2900 microcode for the CDC480(AN/AYK-480) over 20years ago,
and I have been using state machines in industrial automation for 20 years.

The CDC480 (AN/AYK-480) was the US Navy standard airbourne computer from the
mid 70's used in F16 F18 and NZ Orions

Maurice



RE: Dick Smiths $34 mp3 players linux music sorters.

2008-03-09 Thread Maurice Butler


For a start www.s1mp3.de/tools.s1fwx.html

Most of them have z80 with dsp

Have customised my sons with password on boot

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: John Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2008 1:53 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Dick Smiths $34 mp3 players  linux music sorters.

So I've bought one of these cheapy $34.XXc 1gb MP3 players from Dick
Smiths

Note 1. They also play OGGs! Great.

Note 2. I don't know whether they is some unicode or whatever in the
ID3 Tags of some of the creative commons licensed stuff I download
from http://www.jamendo.com... but the name display tends to be a bit
screwy for quite a few songs.

Note 3. It refuses to play some files saying error file.

Curiously enough the madman music sorter also died trying to cope
with some of these files. The Ubuntu bug report says it barfs on
corrupt ID3 tags.

Anyone know of a ID3 tag sanitizer?

Note 4. Sometimes the gadget barfs so hard as to shuts down. Anyone
know of a firmware upgrade out there? The dse site didn't seem to have
one.

Note 5. Any suggestions for music sorters / play sync packages for linux?

So far I have...

   * Rhythmbox - Good.. Except the move to trash seems
 screwy. (Didn't actually delete soemstuff I requested.)

   * madman - Ubuntu feisty fawn version barfed and died on strange id3
tags.

   * I can't remember why I gave up on Juk  Kyamo...

Note 6. It seems to switch itself off every now and then for no good reason.



John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Zealand




RE: OSS for Macintosh

2008-03-07 Thread Maurice Butler
I have yet to find  open source cad program that actual works - lots of half
bake demos that you can not save work with, or just not usable. It is a
school and with school budgets so a free alternative is a start.

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Vik Olliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 7 March 2008 8:47 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: OSS for Macintosh

Not only is Sketchup closed and proprietary, but its file formats are
also closed and proprietary. I cannot see any reason to promote it in an
Open Source environment.

Vik :v)





RE: OSS for Macintosh

2008-03-06 Thread Maurice Butler

First to mind is open office - check out sourceforge as well - you may find
stuff of interest

Free not open source google sketchup (mac versions available dependant on os
version not all os10.x are compatible)

SketchUp is 3D for everyone.

Google SketchUp is software that you can use to create, modify and share 3D
models. It's easier to learn than other 3D modeling programs, which is why
so many people are already using it. We designed SketchUp's simplified
toolset, guided drawing system and clean look-and-feel to help you
concentrate on two things: getting your work done as efficiently as
possible, and having fun while you're doing it.

You can choose from two versions of our software. Google SketchUp is free
for anyone, and allows you to build, view and edit 3D models.


Maurice
-Original Message-
From: Aidan Gauland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 7 March 2008 8:09 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: OSS for Macintosh

Hello,

  The school I attend, uses almost nothing but proprietary software (on 
Macintosh), so I want to put together an ISO image PACKED with open 
source software for Mac OS X, and make it available to the other 
students.  So I'm asking ALL of you here to tell me what open souce 
programs you use, ANY program.  But, please, no games or amusements.

Thanks,
Aidan



RE: OSS for Macintosh

2008-03-06 Thread Maurice Butler
First up from a google search 

http://www.google.com/search?q=open+sourcebtnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dmac=Search+Mac
+Sites

was http://www.opensourcemac.org/

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Aidan Gauland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 7 March 2008 8:09 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: OSS for Macintosh

Hello,

  The school I attend, uses almost nothing but proprietary software (on 
Macintosh), so I want to put together an ISO image PACKED with open 
source software for Mac OS X, and make it available to the other 
students.  So I'm asking ALL of you here to tell me what open souce 
programs you use, ANY program.  But, please, no games or amusements.

Thanks,
Aidan



RE: Linux for OOLLLLLDD PCs

2007-10-12 Thread Maurice Butler
Or
http://www.ipcop.org/1.4.0/en/install/html/decide-installation-media.html#cr
eating-floppy-disks from ipcop cd

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Rooney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 12 October 2007 8:45 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Linux for OOLDD PCs


On Friday 12 October 2007 12:41, Aidan Gauland wrote:

   I have a very very very old PC--I'm serious, this thing only has 
 about 64 MB of RAM, and a 100 MHz Pentium CPU, and a BIOS that can 
 only boot from a hard drive or a floppy drive

Using a floppy disk with Smart Boot Manager on it, you can boot a computer 
from a CD even if the BIOS doesn't support booting from a CD.

Works on 486's even.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/

Wayne



RE: eBay: Phishers getting better organised, using Linux

2007-10-07 Thread Maurice Butler
Thanks Steve

Which is why I posted the link here to get a balance view because the
rootkit did not ring true 

I still only play with linux - and working on making the big jump from billy
ware later this year - new pc - new operating system - linux of some flavour

Currently running ipcop firewall and gentoo with samba for file server.

Need to drop the windows 2k server and my desktop.

Maurice


-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2007 10:05 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: eBay: Phishers getting better organised, using Linux


On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:41:18 +1300
Maurice Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 EBAY: PHISHERS GETTING BETTER ORGANISED, USING LINUX
 
 http://s0.tx.co.nz/at/tep34n736205j130069i181588f2c285953a4t9s4z
 
 The vast majority of the threats we saw were rootkitted Linux boxes, 
 which was rather startling. We expected Microsoft boxes, says CISO
 

This is, of course, b*ll*x. None of the linux boxes are rootkitted at all. 

The way that they work is to add a subdirectory to the existing url with
their code. The usual way they get in - ftp logins aren't encrypted, so
sniffing will work easily - and of course many people use ftp ( dreamweaver,
etc ) to maintain their sites. The reason that linux is hit hardest: the
equivalent hardware can support orders of magnitude more websites using
linux/apache when compared to windows/iis - so of course they'll be using
linux. It's the mom'n'pop websites that're being targeted by this kind of
scam, and they just can't really be expected to be aware of this kind of
attack.

I wish our press actually knew what they were talking about at times ):

Steve



Thank goodness for open source

2007-08-07 Thread Maurice Butler

Microsoft becoming 'software police,' say users

Revocation of Australian software program's digital certificate prompts
accusations

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/scrt/098FC3312E81D386CC25732F00709C49



RE: Advice on building PC?

2007-08-03 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
Those that want reliable computers - and minimal warranty claims - the one
and only pc I assembled without strap (working at home and they were all
else were) had problems six months down the track when the on sound failed
(got lazy and fitted sound card) then an other 9 months later the network
port.

I have been putting together and upgrading computers since the apple II and
apple II  clones - it is esential for reliablity.

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Christopher D Maher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 3 August 2007 3:51 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: Advice on building PC?


Does anybody actually use anti static wrist straps?

CM
Entrepreneur
Pieroth Wine Executive
XBox 360 freak!
www.myspace.com/agent_mcgee 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Sent: 8/3/07 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Advice on building PC?

On 8/2/07, Gauland, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My fifteen-year-old son's running Ubuntu on a old eMac, and would like 
 to switch to an x86 machine. He wants to roll his own, rather than 
 purchase a ready-built machine. This isn't something I've ever done, 
 so I'm looking for advice on going about this.
IMHO, others may disagree, The best bang-for-buck is probably found by
buying an ~3 year old ex-lease machine, and then adding a bigger disk,
should that be desired. Sorry, but while the 'buy a kit of parts' has
educational value, it's not necessarily more economical. If you go the
assemble yourself route, remember that the value of an anti-static wrist
strap exceeds its price by at lease two orders of magnitude.


 Should he buy a second-hand machine to start with, so he test each 
 component as he upgrades it?

 What does he need to consider to be sure he can upgrade everything 
 easily?
It depends on the budget more than anything, can you mention a vague figure?

Just don't buy a totally non-mainstream machine. Asus make good motherboards
which run Linux well, as do many other manufacturers. The You get what you
pay for rule applies.

nVidea video cards go better under Linux than ATI ones.





RE: Organiser / Phone to integrate with Linux

2007-06-06 Thread Maurice Butler
Remember what maxwell smart looked like with his shoe to his ear, the
combined phone organisers work about just as well. The phones are not the
best phones - poor reception bulky and hard to use, the organisers are
comprisied because of the phone functions and not as good as a stand alone
organiser. 

Most of the ones I have looked at still don't ring loud enough for the noise
levels that I have to work with. (one of the telecom phone / organisers if
you download a loud ring tone and use it - heaven forbid - the speaker
blows)

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry
Mayes
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2007 5:16 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Organiser / Phone to integrate with Linux


I'm wanting to pressure my work to get me a better organiser (my Palm
Tungsten T is getting a bit long in the tooth).

Key thing is that it has to be easy to sync with my Evolution on my Ubuntu
laptop.

I'm considering a phone / organiser combined.

Any one have any recommendations? (Or should avoids)

Kerry.



RE: Real-Time 'bus timetable

2007-05-03 Thread Maurice Butler
 windoze xp 2002 sp2 IE7 broken

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2007 7:43 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Real-Time 'bus timetable


On Thursday 03 May 2007 19:26:05 Kerry Mayes wrote:
 But SVG doesn't seem to work under Feisty either.  At least, it won't 
 run that site that started this thread.

 Well, looks as if were SOL with it on Linux.

 Has anybody got the motivation to see if it works with I.E under Windows or

Mac O/S X? Particularly Safari, 'cos if it does, That might give the Konq 
bods some urge to get it to go with Konquie.

Here's the URL again:-

http://www.metroinfo.org.nz/realtime_map.html


-- 
CS



RE: DRM terminal stages?

2007-04-30 Thread Maurice Butler
Note this is USA which is a little more relaxed than NZ

CRIMINALISING THE CONSUMER
Apr 27th 2007 
Where digital rights went wrong

IS IT legal to make a copy of that DVD you've just bought so the family can
watch it around the home or in the car? In one of the most watched copyright
cases in recent years, a judge in northern California ruled last month that
copying DVDs for personal use was legal, given the terms of the industry's
licence and the way the copies were made.


The wider implication of the ruling remains clouded-not least because the
DVD Copy Control Association, the loser in the case, has 60 days to appeal.
But whatever the video industry may like to think, the writing is on the
wall for copy protection.

Copyright is a tricky thing. It protects only the way that an author,
designer, photographer, film-maker or composer has expressed himself. It
does not cover the ideas or the factual information conveyed in the work.

What constitutes fair use or an infringement is trickier still. Much depends
on the purpose and character of the borrowed material's use. Limited
reproduction for the purpose of criticism, comment, news reporting,
teaching, scholarship and research is considered fair game. But the
wholesale repackaging of the content for commercial use is a flagrant
infringement.

In America, the Audio Home Recording Act of 1992 made it legal for people to
record copyrighted radio broadcasts for personal use. But while the act said
nothing about making digital recordings, ripping copyrighted music tracks
off CDs and storing them on an iPod has become an everyday occurrence.
Despite the number of iTunes downloaded for a fee, Apple would be in trouble
if people were prevented from transferring legitimately owned CDs to their
iPods. The software Apple gives away to iPod customers is designed to let
them do just that.

Most people think it ludicrous that they can't do the same with the DVDs
they own. Now it seems, despite squeals from the movie industry, the law is
finally moving in the video fan's favour.

The issue in the recent case was whether Kaleidescape, a maker of digital
jukeboxes that store a person's video and music collections and distribute
the entertainment around the home, had breached the terms of the DVD Content
Control Association's CSS (content scrambling system) licence.

A Kaleidescape server stores digital content ripped from CDs and DVDs on its
hard drive. The content is then encrypted and fed to various screens and
speakers around the home by a secure cable. Kaleidescape claimed that
content distributed this way was even safer than it was on the original
polycarbonate disks. The judge not only agreed, but couldn't find any breach
of the copy-protection licence either.

If the case ends there, to all intents and purposes the notion of fair use
would appear to apply to DVDs as well as CDs. The movie industry, which
nowadays depends as much on DVD sales as on box-office receipts, still seems
to think that making life difficult for its customers is a recipe for
success.

After likewise shooting itself in the foot for ages, the record industry is
now falling over itself to abandon DRM (digital rights management) on CDs. A
number of online music stores such as eMusic, Audio Lunchbox and Anthology
have given up using DRM altogether. In a recent survey by Jupiter Research,
two out of three music industry executives in Europe reckoned that dropping
DRM would improve sales.

The latest music publisher to do so is EMI, which announced in January that
it had stopped producing CDs with DRM protection. The costs of DRM, it
declared, do not measure up to the results.

In an open letter entitled Thoughts on Music, even Steve Jobs, Apple's
charismatic boss and chief evangelist, recently called for the elimination
of DRM. From this month, Apple's iTunes will sell EMI's highest quality
recordings (those with sampling rates of 256 kilobits per second) without
DRM for a small premium.

Belatedly, music executives have come to realise that DRM simply doesn't
work. It is supposed to stop unauthorised copying, but no copy-protection
system has yet been devised that cannot be easily defeated. All it does is
make life difficult for paying customers, while having little or no effect
on clandestine copying plants that churn out pirate copies.

Now the copy protection on DVDs is proving just as easy to bypass. The
biggest flop has been the CSS technology featured in the recent Kaleidescape
case. It was first cracked back in 1999 by a Norwegian programmer called Jon
Lech Johansen, who showed, in a few short lines of elegant code called
DeCSS, just how trivial such lauded protection systems really were. Since
then, even the DRM used to protect the new high-definition video disks (the
Blu-ray format from the Sony camp and its HD-DVD rival from the Toshiba
alliance) have been cracked wide open.

While most of today's DRM schemes that come embedded on CDs and DVDs are
likely to disappear over the next year 

RE: DRM terminal stages?

2007-04-30 Thread Maurice Butler
At least I acknowledged the source, and intellectual property rights :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jim Cheetham
Sent: Monday, 30 April 2007 9:12 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: DRM terminal stages?


On 30/04/07, Maurice Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CRIMINALISING THE CONSUMER

Lesson number one - how to criminalise a consumer :-

 - COPYRIGHT -
 This e-mail message and Economist articles linked from it are 
 copyright
 (c) 2007 The Economist Newspaper Group Limited. All rights reserved.

Breach copyright.

-jim



DRM terminal stages?

2007-04-28 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi Confused Linux/Unix Geeks,

It looks like this is starting to die a natural death.

http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/techview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=90
96421fsrc=nwl

Maurice - lurking wondering whats wrong with clug 



RE: Which distro ? [Long]

2007-03-11 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi Don,
You forgot drm
Maurice -  who has be trapped by lookout oops, outlook and delphi

Do you wish to play movies and music that you have purchased on your
computer?
 Vista - no if billy thinks you have stolen it or you use a program that
someone may be able to make a copy
 Linux - tba

 Do you care about money
 
 * Must have zero cost
 * I'll spend a little if it seems worthwhile
 * I'll pay anything to make my life easier
 
 Do other users care about freedom and cost
 
 * have they even thought about them
 
 




RE: OT: Hardware help (Athlon socket 939)

2007-02-13 Thread Maurice Butler
I second that most modern motherboards will not do anything without
good(working) ram

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Ben Devine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2007 2:50 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT: Hardware help (Athlon socket 939)




On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:48:53 +1300, Andrew Errington
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:46, you wrote:
 Try briefly shorting the two pins on the motherboard that are 
 connected to the power switch... a screwdriver works well.
 
 Ah, do you suspect the power switch itself?
 
 A

Also Try the ram.

Thanks,
Ben Devine




RE: dumb like me...?

2006-11-16 Thread Maurice Butler
I joined the list after failed attempts of trying teach myself. Mandrake
installs went alright but had problems trying to do more. Since installed
gentoo a number of times and got Linux from scratch install working.
Installed, modified ipcop and had patches for addons incorporated in the
source.

My work pc's are windoze like this one, my play ones are Linux. Next big
step is buy a new 64 bit processor, lots of ram and install Linux, vmware or
similar, run windoze in a window and make a full migration to Linux base.

Rnzaf Avionics trained with NZCE Telecoms worked in Instrument/Electrical ,
80's maintained airborne mini computers to component level, wrote and worked
extensively with asm and fault find using amd2900 micro code.
Worked in industrial automation since 90's - programming PLC's and PC(turbo
pascal now delphi).

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: TH  CD Maher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 16 November 2006 11:05 p.m.
To: CLUGList
Subject: dumb like me...?


Is there ANYONE else on this list who does not have an in depth knowledge of
Linux but is subcribed 'coz they like reading it and they're interested in
getting into Linux?  Can everyone that wants to let me know their technical
background...just out of interest sake?

Me-I've dabbled with Java, C++ and Visual Basic for a few years on Windows.
I did a polytech course in Australia through TAFE on programming, now I'm
just a bumb who studies at Massey extramurally who's interested in web
oriented databases and Linux.

Chris Maher.



RE: Threads - was Re: === 2007 Meetings ===

2006-11-15 Thread Maurice Butler
I have programmed with threads for years on the dark side, key points are
 - very steep learning curve
 - program has to be designed before writing
 - potential dead locks have to be identified before coding
 - timeout mechinism to over come unexpected deadlocks with logging to simplify 
debugging and head scratching
 - local and global variables and methods of accessing the same need to be 
clearly defined
 - cannot multi thread naturally single threaded processes like reading a 
keyboard with a user
 don't laugh took ages to work out what was going on between two 
separate modules when
 they were merged into a single program.
 - most library code is not writen to be multithreaded included so called 
multithread libraries
 - database access can be very problematic as connection count can get out of 
hand very quickly,
most database are accessed using libraries - see above

Maurice


I like

... a folk definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again 
and to expect the results to be different. By this definition, we in fact 
require that programmers of multithreaded systems be insane. Were they sane, 
they could not understand their programs.

Roy.



RE: Modem Strings

2006-08-29 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi Alan,

Great perseverance 

try commenting out one or the other and see what happens - ie so you can
identify which line is causing the problem - could be as simple as a non
printing character that has accidently ended up in a line.

The pid is a processIdentifier - every running process is alocated a pid -
with out knowing the name of the process it is almost meanless.

Out of interest from the command line run ps -A
And you will see every process running on your box

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 August 2006 5:55 p.m.
To: Linux Group
Subject: re:Modem Strings


Double checked both secrets and all lines other than the  log in name 
and password line are commented out.

Now both the lcp-max-configure and lcp-max failure lines were commented out

I removed the comment and inserted both and left at the default value 
which is 10 for both.

tried a call with wvdial
immediately after connect it crashed out with an error 2
if it means anything it said Pid of 5484
and second go was Pid of 6050

Now I am assuming that as I altered nothing eles these two lcp commands 
must be clashing with each other or some other command that is already 
in the options file to produce the error 2

Alan




RE: Gentoo - PCBSD. OT?

2006-08-29 Thread Maurice Butler
I've never seen the point in religious wars on distros or OS types.

I see software as a tool - one tool does not suit every job - it is a case
of selecting the best tool for the job that you want - use the wrong tool
and the chances are you will end up with skinned knuckles or job not done

Maurice



RE: Desktops through the ages

2006-08-16 Thread Maurice Butler
I stand corrected about the 64 Meg - indivual chips in dip sockets

-Original Message-
From: Reg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 6:00 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: Desktops through the ages



Someone said: .  Orginal ibm pc had floppy disk 64meg ram optional
cassette drive 82


Um I doubt it was 64meg of RAM at that stage  more like 64k surely ?

I have a vague notion BG was quoted once as saying who would ever need more
than 1 meg of RAM

Well he sure was wrong about that ! 




RE: Desktops through the ages

2006-08-15 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
Orginal ibm pc had floppy disk 64meg ram optional cassette drive 82
keyboard,
XT bios change, harddisk 10 ro 20mb?
AT bios change to 286 processor, second interrupt controller, RTC, hard
disk, new keyboard, colour option

From memory (I have lost my IBM hardware manual with the bios listings)

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Packer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 August 2006 11:28 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Desktops through the ages


On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 15:33 +1200, Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
 Nick Rout wrote:
  On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:39:39 +1200
  Peter Glassenbury (CSSE) wrote:
  
  If anyone knows where to get an IBM PC, I would be very interested 
  for our museum (at the University) Seems we missed out when getting 
  started as most people have thrown them away
  
  I think I have an XT or AT in storage, but I think that was a little 
  later. I got it from a friend a few years ago for the 5 1/2 inch 
  floppy drive which i needed in order to access one or two disks of a 
  very old software product. You are welcome to it anyway.
 
 We have the AT (which was the 286)... It was the XT (I think)

snip

The XT was a successor to the original IBM PC.  It still had an 8088
processor, but the power supply had been beefed up (to 200? watts from the
original PC's 65 watts), the keyboard layout changed, and there may have
been some other tweaks.

=Andrew




RE: Vt6421 pci card

2006-08-12 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi all,

I found http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_SATA and worke though it and sata
portion listed in dmesg not pata. Tried turning on a couple of defines in
libata.h but this did not help

Maurice
 snip from dmesg
input: ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input1
hda: QUANTUM KATANA, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdd: SONY CDU4811, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 20159282 sectors (10321 MB) w/1900KiB Cache, CHS=1/16/63, UDMA(33)
hda: cache flushes not supported
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3  hda5 hda6 
hdd: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
libata version 1.20 loaded.
sata_via :00:09.0: version 1.1
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:09.0[A] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 5 (level, low) -
IRQ 5
sata_via :00:09.0: routed to hard irq line 5
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xD400 ctl 0xD40A bmdma 0xE400 irq 5
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xD800 ctl 0xD80A bmdma 0xE408 irq 5
ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0)
scsi0 : sata_via
ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0)
scsi1 : sata_via
ieee1394: raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device initialized
/snip



RE: Real Nwebie

2006-08-12 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
QTParted - edits the partion - on ntfs it does not resize the file system so
it gets broken.

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 2:02 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Real Nwebie


On Friday 11 August 2006 10:41 pm, Alan wrote:
 Had another play with the Mepis Disk this evening, and made VERY 
 slight progress.

Well this morning, before basketball and bowls, Alan and I installed a 10Gb 
drive into his computer, partitioned it with a Fat32 partition and then 
installed Mepis.

The LiveCD seemed to boot fine with Alan's hardware if he selected old 
hardware or if we used a PS2 keyboard rather than the USB one.

We could not use QTParted to resize the NTFS partition - I have not had time

to research whether this is normal or a problem with his drive. Any
comments?

His hardware was auto-detected, including his modem so hopefully, in the 
fullness of time Alan will report back that he has a working Linux desktop.

And yes Rik, at this time in the morning I can report that I have had a few 
little tipples.

Goodnight all, Rob



RE: Real Nwebie

2006-08-12 Thread Maurice Butler
The version on mephis is then an old version - that's what I did my testing
with

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 11:16 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Real Nwebie


On Sunday 13 August 2006 08:36, Maurice Butler wrote:
 Hi,
 QTParted - edits the partion - on ntfs it does not resize the file 
 system so it gets broken.
There are recent versions of QTParted which work properly.
See also:-
http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html

The best way to install both Linux and Windows is to partition the drive
into 
two Win95 partitions ( perhaps using your Linux partitioner ). Install 
windows on to the first one. Then remove the second Win95 partition from the

table and install Linux into the space. There are now programs available for

both Windows and Linux which will allow access to data of the other O/S. The
traditonal small FAT32 post-box partition is now no longer needed. 

 Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 2:02 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Real Nwebie

 On Friday 11 August 2006 10:41 pm, Alan wrote:
  Had another play with the Mepis Disk this evening, and made VERY 
  slight progress.

 Well this morning, before basketball and bowls, Alan and I installed a 
 10Gb drive into his computer, partitioned it with a Fat32 partition 
 and then installed Mepis.

 The LiveCD seemed to boot fine with Alan's hardware if he selected 
 old hardware or if we used a PS2 keyboard rather than the USB one.

 We could not use QTParted to resize the NTFS partition - I have not 
 had time

 to research whether this is normal or a problem with his drive. Any 
 comments?

 His hardware was auto-detected, including his modem so hopefully, in 
 the fullness of time Alan will report back that he has a working Linux 
 desktop.

 And yes Rik, at this time in the morning I can report that I have had 
 a few little tipples.

 Goodnight all, Rob

-- 
CS



RE: Real Newbie

2006-08-11 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
Better searching still go www.google.co.nz/linux and google narrows it
search to linux friendy sites

Maurice 

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2006 7:52 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Real Newbie


On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:36:20 +1200
Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  There will no doubt be lots of questions firing once I have them 
  installed and playing as my knowledge in that direction is very very 
  low. I am also a Radio Amateur as you can probably tell by the email 
  address, and unfortunately I dont think many of the programs I am 
  currently using run on Linux, so will need the Windows environment 
  to keep them  running.
 Windows is Windows, and Linux is Linux. There is a system around which
 allow _some_ Windows programs to run in Linux. You might care to try out 
 your ham radio programs in the Wine windows emulator running on Linux.
 
 http://www.winehq.org/


There are plenty of ham radio apps for linux. Alan, you will need to learn
how much use google is. If you google ham radio linux there are lots of
links for you to look up. If you find some software you want to try, let us
know befoe you try to install it because there are some traps for new
players :-)



RE: dvd rom problems

2006-08-11 Thread Maurice Butler
Title: Message



Hi,
have 
you tried booting a bootable cd on it ?

this 
will rule out anything with your linux configuration

Maurice

  
  -Original Message-From: Matthew Whiting 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 3:02 
  p.m.To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nzSubject: Re: dvd 
  rom problemsthe results of my trying again mounting the 
  cdrom...[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo 
  mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrommount: special device /dev/hdc does 
  not existprob just take it in and see if can get it looked at under 
  warranty but any further suggestions appreciated...thanks
  mkdir /mnt/cdrom

try again

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:37:49 +1200
Matthew Whiting wrote:

  

  Try using Konqueror or Nautilus to mount or play the disks and see if
it works.

Or in console 'mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom' etc.

  Cheers, gave that a stab and this was the result -

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist


  


Vt6421 pci card

2006-08-11 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi all,
I have just tried installing this card and I am a we bit lost.

I have got gentoo up and running on the motherboard ide.

The bios does recognise large hard disks so I have fitted the dse xh8269
card with the vt6421 and connected a 160Gb pata disk.

A couple of hints required as to what this device will show up as ie
/dev/hd? Or /dev/sd?
and anything I need to tweek in the kernel.

I have an old snap server that is almost dead and are going to replace with
this box running samba.

Thanks Maurice




RE: OT WinME Firewall

2006-08-11 Thread Maurice Butler
No possibly - was ME stands for Microsoft Experimental - beta test program
for XP - and was the worse

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 10:15 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT WinME Firewall


On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:30:22 +1200
Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 11 August 2006 7:48 pm, Rik Tindall wrote:
 
 Can anyone recommend a beer-free firewall for WinME?
  
 Burn it (WinME) and install Linux (there - is that back on topic?)
 
 Rob

WinME is possibly the worst edition of windows ever.



Time zone

2006-08-03 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi all,
Simple if you know but I don't

Whats best NZ or pacific/auckland for time zone?

And for my edification why?

Maurice



RE: HELP RFC Community Node Network...

2006-07-25 Thread Maurice Butler
Title: Message



hi,
with 
the sea level currently rising at 1.5mm per year how viable is south 
bank?
what 
happens if you live next door to someonewho has imported cordless phone 
that kills your wireless connection and you don't have the tools to locate 
it?
what 
happens if you kill someone elses home wireless network because you are on the 
same or adjacent channel?
what 
happens if someone starts welding near the main feed into the 
mesh?

Maurice

some 
background reading

http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=articlearticleid=CA629312spacedesc=features

http://www.seattlewireless.net/MeshNetwork

  
  -Original Message-From: Don Gould 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2006 1:02 
  p.m.To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nzSubject: HELP RFC 
  Community Node Network...
  The relivance to linux in this post it that I 
  propose to build 30 Debian 3.1 boxes to power this project...
  
  http://www.tcn.bowenvale.co.nz/content/view/38/31/
  
  In posting this information at this point, I'm looking for a bit of peer 
  review. Are the costings right? Is there anything really obvious 
  that I've over looked? Is there a better way to get high speed data to 
  these people?
  
  TIA
  
  Cheers Don


RE: CLUG web server changes

2006-07-18 Thread Maurice Butler
Many moons ago it was peripheral interchange program the copy command on
cpm

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:29 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: CLUG web server changes



On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:18:18 +1200
Don Gould wrote:

 or just update the pip capacity until it's just not an issue anymore,
 remember it's also impacting on their systems.
 
 Cheers Don


pardon my ignorance, what is the pip capacity

-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: gentoo dhcpcd error netmount was not started

2006-06-29 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi Ross,

Is this from the live install cd or after you installed?

If it is the install cd it has not recognised your network card - try
another.

If it is after you have installed it, and you used the graphical installer,
it has failed to install  load the module for your network card. This will
require you to manually configure the kernel, compile kernel and modules,
install.

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2006 2:33 p.m.
To: CLUG mailing list
Subject: gentoo dhcpcd error netmount was not started


I am setting up a new Gentoo computer.

I am having problems getting dhcpcd to work. Here is the output;

Starting eth0
Bringing up eth0
dhcp
Running dhcpcd  ...
ERROR : Problem starting needed services
netmount was not started

Running this gives similar error output;

/etc/init.d/netmount start

Any suggestions

Cheers Ross Drummond



RE: Open Suse Now wont install

2006-06-06 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
That almost sound like ram pci or agp card problems - try reseating the ram,
pci  agp cards then run memtest86 for 24hrs
Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Reg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:51 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: Open Suse Now wont install


Volker Kuhlmann said:

 Be more specific. You used to be able to get the CD's boot menu when
booting from CD, but no longer? 
[---] 

No I could get as far as the boot menu fine, but when I selected install it
compiled the kernal 100%, but then the screen went blank, I even left it for
a couple of hrs while I did something else to make sure it was not just slow
at doing what it was.


[---] I have eliminated a hard drive problem as I tried another drive on
another controller with the same result. 
 
 Hardware error in any case.

Yes actually it's looking like that  Maybe the mother board or something
:-(  going from bad to worse now I think  the computer won't even get as
far as cmos now  its just putting out long beeps with pauses between,
mind you that computer did that once b4 many months back  after being
shifted, but it came right, maybe something is loose or it has a dry joint
or something, either way looks like my linux project is down the tubes or at
least on hold for now :-(


Thanks all for helpful comments.


 
Kind Regards
Reg





RE: 10 Mbit Cable erratic

2006-05-17 Thread Maurice Butler
Quicksilver Hot News
27/04/06

Broadband Speed Issues 
Quicksilver's Helpdesk is currently fielding a number of complaints
regarding Broadband speed issues.

We'd like to apologise for any inconvenience, and take this opportunity to
assure our customers that we are doing everything possible to improve this
situation.

Recent tests carried out by Quicksilver and other industry players have
shown the current major speed constraint lies in the Telecom DSL backhaul
network, and the ratios at which Telecom provisions the ATM pipe to the ISP
(24kbps per user). This is affecting the whole industry.

There are additionally some network upgrades in progress internally at
Quicksilver, to meet forecasted demand for the new broadband plans. This
includes additional international bandwidth being added in the next few
days, new L2TP Network Server (LNS) infrastructure, to allow loadsharing and
future scalability, and a request to Telecom to increase the PVC link.
Currently Telecom allocate an average 24kbps per customer (this applies to
all ISPs except Xtra), and this is creating congestion on many ISP networks,
including Quicksilver's.

We must stress to customers experiencing problems, that while we are
performing network upgrades, this may not resolve the speed problems for all
customers. We are continuing to lobby Telecom to improve the contention
ratios, and increase the backhaul bandwidth above the current 24kbps per
customer.

We are currently receiving reports from our own users, as well as those on
other wholesale Broadband ISP networks, that actual download speeds are
variable from exchange to exchange. Our current understanding is that
Telecom have removed the previous 50:1 contention ration (subscriber ratio)
on DSL exchanges, and now will not commit to a contention ratio. A recent
figure given by Telecom was that across the country, there is an 'average'
ratio of 33:1. This leads us to believe that there are many Telecom DSL
exchanges which are currently at much higher contention ratios, leading to a
degradation of service for many broadband users on popular exchanges.

Quicksilver is working with a number of other wholesale Broadband ISP's,
through the ISPANZ group, to lobby Telecom and the Government for further
action to improve the Broadband situation.

Again, we ask for your understanding as we upgrade our network, and work
with Telecom and ISPANZ to improve the current broadband situation in NZ.


-Original Message-
From: Craig FALCONER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2006 2:05 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: 10 Mbit Cable erratic


True - but I don't really care about speeds at 0300.  I care about speeds
from 0800 to 1600.  

It was just a hey what do other cable users see

Mind you, 73% of 10 Mbit is still better than 39% of 2 Mbit :)  YAY for
telecom

-Original Message-
From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 May 2006 2:01 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: 10 Mbit Cable erratic


On May 17, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Craig FALCONER wrote:

 We get 90% of our upload speed, and anything from 18% to 74% of our
 download.

Going by the times shown in your listing, other people are likely to  
be using the cable at the same time (unless you're a BOFH), which may  
interfere with the test.  Conditions on the wider internet might  
affect it as well, depending on the path between you and the nzdsl  
site.  What happens if you run two tests from different sites at the  
same time?

I just ran the test and got 770/119kbps on an up to 2M/128k DSL  
line, which is actually a little slower than my previous attempts.   
In my case the limit is probably due to the length and condition of  
copper between here and the exchange.  I guess there'd be little  
point in me buying a faster connection!  I'm not really sure why all  
those ISPs want access to the local loop in that state ;)

- Dave






Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install

2006-05-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
I am setting up a samba server to replace my snap 2000 server but have run
into this problem trying to rebuild the system to use the new flags

Thanks
Maurice

make.conf
CFLAGS=-march=i686 -O2 -pipe -fstack-check
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=
USE=-X -gtk -gnome -kde -alsa apache2 kerberos xml acl crypt cups ldap pam
readline python oav libclamav samba

emerge.log

1147737767:   emerge (22 of 22) sys-apps/busybox-1.1.0 to /
1147737767:  === (22 of 22) Cleaning
(sys-apps/busybox-1.1.0::/usr/portage/sys-apps/busybox/busybox-1.1.0.ebuild)
1147737771:  === (22 of 22) Compiling/Merging
(sys-apps/busybox-1.1.0::/usr/portage/sys-apps/busybox/busybox-1.1.0.ebuild)
1147737922:  *** terminating.

I can find the log with the compiler message heres what I wrote down

/var/tmp/portage/busybox-1.1.0/work/busybox-1.1.0/coreutils/mv.c in function
mv_main:

/var/tmp/portage/busybox-1.1.0/work/busybox-1.1.0/coreutils/mv.c : 129 :
error : label 'RET_1' used before containing container




RE: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install

2006-05-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Thanks - I have created /etc/portage/package.mask with busybox
But now I have been looking at busybox I probably don't need it

The processor celeron 300 so things take a while

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 8:02 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install


On Tuesday 16 May 2006 7:53 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:

 it might be worth trying ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 for this emerge. 
 Gentoo are very cautious/tardy about getting packages into the stable 
 set. I run with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in make.conf and find that I 
 get fewer problems than with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=. However, note that 
 I'd never recommend hard masked unless you are the package developer.

I only use masked packages if I really need them (by adding them to 
package.keywords.

This is from my make.conf..

# Advanced Masking
# 
#
# Gentoo is using a new masking system to allow for easier stability testing
# on packages. KEYWORDS are used in ebuilds to mask and unmask packages
based # on the platform they are set for. A special form has been added that
# indicates packages and revisions that are expected to work, but have not
yet # been approved for the stable set. '~arch' is a superset of 'arch'
which # includes the unstable, in testing, packages. Users of the 'x86'
architecture # would add '~x86' to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS to enable
unstable/testing packages. # '~ppc', '~sparc' are the unstable KEYWORDS for
their respective platforms. # # Please note that this is not for
development, alpha, beta, nor cvs release # packages. Broken packages will
not be added to testing and should not be # requested to be added.
Alternative routes are available to developers # for experimental packages,
and it is at their discretion to use them. # # DO NOT PUT ANYTHING BUT YOUR
SPECIFIC ~ARCHITECTURE IN THE LIST. # IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR ARCH, OR THE
IMPLICATIONS, DO NOT MODIFY THIS. # #ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch
#ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86



RE: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install

2006-05-16 Thread Maurice Butler
 archival/libunarchive/archive_xread_all.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/archive_xread_all_eof.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/check_header_gzip.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/data_align.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/data_extract_all.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/data_extract_to_buffer.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/data_extract_to_stdout.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/data_skip.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/decompress_bunzip2.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/decompress_uncompress.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/decompress_unlzma.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/decompress_unzip.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/filter_accept_all.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/filter_accept_list.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/filter_accept_list_reassign.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/filter_accept_reject_list.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/find_list_entry.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/get_header_ar.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/get_header_cpio.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/get_header_tar.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/get_header_tar_bz2.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/get_header_tar_gz.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/get_header_tar_lzma.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/header_list.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/header_skip.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/header_verbose_list.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/init_handle.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/open_transformer.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/seek_by_char.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/seek_by_jump.o
  CC archival/libunarchive/unpack_ar_archive.o
  AR cru archival/libunarchive/libunarchive.a
  CC coreutils/basename.o
  CC coreutils/cal.o
  CC coreutils/cat.o
  CC coreutils/chgrp.o
  CC coreutils/chmod.o
  CC coreutils/chown.o
  CC coreutils/chroot.o
  CC coreutils/cmp.o
  CC coreutils/comm.o
  CC coreutils/cp.o
  CC coreutils/cut.o
  CC coreutils/date.o
  CC coreutils/dd.o
  CC coreutils/df.o
  CC coreutils/dirname.o
  CC coreutils/dos2unix.o
  CC coreutils/du.o
  CC coreutils/echo.o
  CC coreutils/env.o
  CC coreutils/expr.o
  CC coreutils/false.o
  CC coreutils/head.o
  CC coreutils/hostid.o
  CC coreutils/id.o
  CC coreutils/install.o
  CC coreutils/length.o
  CC coreutils/ln.o
  CC coreutils/ls.o
  CC coreutils/md5_sha1_sum.o
  CC coreutils/mkdir.o
  CC coreutils/mkfifo.o
  CC coreutils/mknod.o
  CC coreutils/mv.o
/var/tmp/portage/busybox-1.1.2/work/busybox-1.1.2/coreutils/mv.c: In
function `mv_main':
/var/tmp/portage/busybox-1.1.2/work/busybox-1.1.2/coreutils/mv.c:129: error:
label 'RET_1' used before containing binding contour
make: *** [/var/tmp/portage/busybox-1.1.2/work/busybox-1.1.2/coreutils/mv.o]
Error 1

!!! ERROR: sys-apps/busybox-1.1.2 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 129, Exitcode 2
!!! build failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.

jbod ~ # emerge --update busybox busybox.log

-Original Message-
From: Maurice Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:02 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install


Thanks - I have created /etc/portage/package.mask with busybox But now I
have been looking at busybox I probably don't need it

The processor celeron 300 so things take a while

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 8:02 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install


On Tuesday 16 May 2006 7:53 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote:

 it might be worth trying ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 for this emerge.
 Gentoo are very cautious/tardy about getting packages into the stable 
 set. I run with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in make.conf and find that I 
 get fewer problems than with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=. However, note that 
 I'd never recommend hard masked unless you are the package developer.

I only use masked packages if I really need them (by adding them to 
package.keywords.

This is from my make.conf..

# Advanced Masking
# 
#
# Gentoo is using a new masking system to allow for easier stability testing
# on packages. KEYWORDS are used in ebuilds to mask and unmask packages
based # on the platform they are set for. A special form has been added that
# indicates packages and revisions that are expected to work, but have not
yet # been approved for the stable set. '~arch' is a superset of 'arch'
which # includes the unstable, in testing, packages. Users of the 'x86'
architecture # would add '~x86' to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS to enable
unstable/testing packages. # '~ppc', '~sparc' are the unstable KEYWORDS for
their respective platforms. # # Please note that this is not for
development, alpha, beta, nor cvs release # packages. Broken packages will
not be added to testing and should not be # requested to be added.
Alternative routes are available to developers # for experimental packages,
and it is at their discretion to use them. # # DO NOT PUT ANYTHING BUT YOUR
SPECIFIC ~ARCHITECTURE IN THE LIST. # IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR ARCH, OR THE
IMPLICATIONS, DO NOT MODIFY

RE: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install

2006-05-16 Thread Maurice Butler
That's what was on the system - I tried installing with the graphical
installer but it blew up when it got to compile the kernel, so I finished it
manually. Busybox was already there.

Looks like it is compiling now since I took out -fstack-check from the
cflags

Most of the linux boxes I have setup I do not have any x windows on them and
the graphical install looks like it insists on one. Looks like I will have
to use the command line and do it similar to 2005.x - at least that worked
reliably.

Then next machine will be this one with gentoo  vmware and windoze
relegated to a window

Maurice


-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:19 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install


Why do you want busybox? This doesn't look like an embedded system to me?

On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:15:44 +1200
Maurice Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There must be something with my setup busybox-1.1.2 failed with the 
 same error
 



RE: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install

2006-05-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Confirmed bug. it is definitely -fstack-check in cflags

-Original Message-
From: Maurice Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:51 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install


That's what was on the system - I tried installing with the graphical
installer but it blew up when it got to compile the kernel, so I finished it
manually. Busybox was already there.

Looks like it is compiling now since I took out -fstack-check from the
cflags

Most of the linux boxes I have setup I do not have any x windows on them and
the graphical install looks like it insists on one. Looks like I will have
to use the command line and do it similar to 2005.x - at least that worked
reliably.

Then next machine will be this one with gentoo  vmware and windoze
relegated to a window

Maurice


-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:19 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install


Why do you want busybox? This doesn't look like an embedded system to me?

On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:15:44 +1200
Maurice Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There must be something with my setup busybox-1.1.2 failed with the
 same error
 




RE: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install

2006-05-16 Thread Maurice Butler

Thanks for that will try it next time

-Original Message-
From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:32 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Gentoo 2006.0 emerge -nuD Failed on new install


On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:50, Maurice Butler wrote:


 Most of the linux boxes I have setup I do not have any x windows on 
 them and the graphical install looks like it insists on one. Looks 
 like I will have to use the command line and do it similar to 2005.x - 
 at least that worked reliably.

To run a non graphical install type 'gentoo nox' when the you are prompted
to 
select the installer kernel.

When the install CD presents you with a command prompt type 'installer' for
a 
curses[1] based install configuration.

Cheers Ross Drummond

[1] Similar to the kernel make menuconfig curses dialogues you may be more 
familiar with

PS: My spell checker has a dirty mind.

Unknown word:   nuD
replace with:   nude



RE: video card advice

2006-05-14 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
A temporary fix is to peel the sticker of the fan and put a drop of light
oil (sewing machine not anything for a car) to get it going again until you
get a replacement. At the worst you could use crc - only works for a month
before you have to do it again.
Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Roger Searle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 15 May 2006 6:27 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: video card advice


I'll be in the market for a video card as soon as my budget allows,
following on from discovering the fan on it does zero rpm on a good day
- this being the likely source of lockups (interestingly this seldom happens
when booted into linux).

I recall plenty of discussion on the list about supported and less supported
cards and chipsets. I have no wish to be responsible for a list war, simply
want to be sure that I buy the best option with linux in mind.  My needs and
requirements are fairly modest, while I like games seldom have the time - I
don't need the very best in performance, this being supported by the fact
that my budget will reach to maybe a couple of hundred dollars at most. 

What models, chipsets, features should I look out for? Avoid?

Cheers,
Roger




RE: OT PC100 ram

2006-05-04 Thread Maurice Butler
The number of physical ic's on a stick - four chips = high 16 (8 per side)=
low
Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 4 May 2006 1:44 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT PC100 ram



http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=oplex_upgrade
message.id=15703

says that high density memory should not be used.

How do I tell high density from low density memory?

Cheers Ross Drummond



RE: virus scanners and other security tools

2006-04-23 Thread Maurice Butler

Firewall
  Ipcop with advproxy and urlfilter addons

Windoze machines
 norton, etrust(not good), avast, avg 

Linux (gentoo)
 no requirement at this stage as easy to update to keep ahead of security
alerts

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 24 April 2006 9:07 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: virus scanners and other security tools


What virus scanners or other security tools such as firewalls etc do people
use (if any) with linux?


Ta

Bernard


-- 
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.5/322 - Release Date: 4/22/2006
 




Acer servers now available with suse

2006-04-19 Thread Maurice Butler


http://www.acer.com.au/acw/acw060310.pdf

Maurice



RE: Recommendations for a possible Linux convert - MS$Tax

2006-04-18 Thread Maurice Butler
Apple who's applications are fast becoming as reliable as the dark side.

Bleeding edge intel duo
1. Install ms office (2003 cd) trash all the fonts
2. ms office only runs as administrator that installed it or the first user
that runs it - all other users crashes, 
3. on random machines use safari goto www.google.co.nz start typing in the
form after 1 or 2 characters safari locks up then crashes - I want to send
an error report please type what you were doing. (firefox works fine)
4. itunes randomly crashes even after latest patches
5. updates just as thick and fast as the dark side
6. documentation is called google
7. need to goto the command prompt to correct permissions on multiple
objects as users, even with parential controls still can trash a machine
(they might not be able to modify something but the still have delete rights
- doh!!)

Note currently users are authenticated against active directory on win2k box
(still testing the gentoo replacement)

Maurice - try sorting school computer lab with 25 apples that replaced
acorns (a piece of great british engineering with real software - my son
could not believe how similar the user interface was when I had them running
side by side)



-Original Message-
From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 11:36 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a possible Linux convert - MS$Tax


On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 10:19:33AM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
  Oh, yes. Apple. Who open-sourced their entire underlying OS. Them.
 
 Oh yeah, and a fat lot of good it is doing you.

It might be true that it's doing *you* no good -- that's no excuse for
effectively saying that Apple don't release Open Source. There are enough
useful arguments against closed/DRM stuff without having to overstate the
case and loose track of the objective truth.

In many ways it's worse that a company that obviously understands Open
licensing on one hand is attacking it on the other; but the world is not a
black-and-white place.

-jim



RE: Recommendations for a possible Linux convert - MS$Tax

2006-04-18 Thread Maurice Butler
Yes - it is the academic licence - there is a later version of the cd that
does not change the major version number but fixes the problems - found by
accident as red and mickysoft point the finger at each other.

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:18 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a possible Linux convert - MS$Tax


On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:47:17 +1200
Maurice Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2. ms office only runs as administrator that installed it or the first 
 user that runs it - all other users crashes

do said other users have a license?



RE: Outlook style stationary image for background on emails

2006-03-19 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
If you are that parnoid then you need to look at tempest[1] harding so your
pc does not radiate what you see and type for the world to see
Maurice

[1] TEMPEST testing fundamentally ensures that no unintentional
electromagnetic influenced emissions are generated from cryptographic
(usually abbreviated to 'CRYPTO') and other equipment processing classified
information. Naturally, unauthorised or uncontrolled access of third parties
to data and information or its intentional destruction becomes a high
priority issue for defence and indeed some civil operations.

-Original Message-
From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 18 March 2006 12:30 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Outlook style stationary image for background on emails


 Hence why I don't even bother...  I've had people ask me about pgp 
 before and wondered if it was really worth it...  if you've got the 
 ability to intercept my mail in the first place then chances are that 
 you've also got the ability to be watching while I type it...

No way. To watch what you type someone would have to be in or close by your
house. Somehow I doubt the NSA will be doing that, and the local spooks
mighn't be so serious about world domination. Encrypting your email keeps it
safe from the ISPs and the hobby hackers - definitely worth doing for trade
secrets. And while the NSA may be capable of breaking gpg emails, the cost
of doing so is probably still so high that they don't do it routinely for
every email passing through.

Volker

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RE: hard drive just died

2006-02-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
the freeze is an urban myth and causes more problems than it solves due to
condensation and other bits moving out of tolerance. Recovery depends on
what type the failure is i.e. Mechanical - Plater motor, head servo,
bearings Electronics - cct board failure or worse head crash. if the disk is
runable with out I agree with dd the whole lot else where. The less you run
the disk before recovering the data the better.

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2006 8:45 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: hard drive just died


 Leave it in the freezer overnight, and then try and dd the whole
 disk contents somewhere else. If you're short of spare disks, let
 me know, I van certainly lend you 40+GB.

 My commiserations,

 Steve

 On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:26:37 +1300 (NZDT)
 Wesley Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does anybody know how to recover the data?  Is there any Open
 Source tool for
  recovering it to a temporary location?  (The only things I am
 even moderately
  pleased about is that I burnt a cdrom of one of my projects, so
 I've got that at
  the very least.  And it's still within warranty.)
 
  Thanks very much for all and any help you can give me.
 
  Wesley Parish
 
  Sharpened hands are happy hands.
  Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands
  - A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge
 
  I me.  Shape middled me.  I would come out into hot!
  I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a
 symbol of the
  other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press




RE: OTish: ISPs

2006-02-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
baycity.co.nz also sell it to farmers and any one else that can afford the
setup cost ($600 dollars+)
they have mainly move to satellite

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2006 9:25 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: OTish: ISPs


 On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:23:05 +1300
 John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  BCL already have a broadband offering.
 
  http://www.bclnz.co.nz/index.php/pi_pageid/23
 
  Cheers
 
  John

 the only one of their retailers who i could find prices for was iconz:

 Plan  Data Allowance  Monthly Fee Excess Data
 128/256Kbps   1GB $105.00 13c/MB
 128/256Kbps   2GB $115.00 13c/MB
 128/256Kbps   5GB $196.90 13c/MB
 128/512Kbps   1GB $145.00 13c/MB
 128/512Kbps   2GB $155.00 13c/MB
 128/512Kbps   5GB $247.50 13c/MB
 Fixed 512Kbps -   POA -

 Not broadband, not cheap, maybe acceptable if you had no other
 alternative.




RE: Grub booting raid 1

2005-12-27 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi Volker,
 If software raid, the problem is grub expects to find the boot drive on the
primary drive to load the raid drivers. If the primary drive fails you need
pull the secondary drive and place it in the primary position. The only way
around this would be to have a second entry to allow booting off the
secondary drive.

If it is hardware raid then there should not be a problem .

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 27 December 2005 6:33 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Grub booting raid 1


 Does anyone have a (tried) config file for grub booting a raid1 software
 raid /dev/md0, which does all(!) of the following:

 * The raid level is raid1
 * Linux root fs is /dev/md0
 * /boot is on /dev/md0
 * bootloader is grub
 * Taking either disk out still results in a booting system

 The last point is the critical one. Google isn't a lot of help on this,
 there's truckloads of info on the first 4 points which however are a
 nobrainer in yast (read: click on raid1). When taking the first disk out
 the system no longer boots (grub menu load failure), but I'm not sure
 that's because I selected something stupid in yast after install, and
 before I get into a boot/remove/add/disk/grub/remove orgie I thought I'd
 ask...

 Thanks,

 Volker

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 postings to me.




RE: photo printing

2005-11-18 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
cheapest option is put all the photos you want printed on to cd, by
themselves, goto your local photo shop and ask them to print them all.
should cost about 35 cents each and save you lots of grief.

A lot of the digital cameras the aspect ratio of the camera is different to
a 6x4 print so some cropping is required.

Maurice
(who owned a photo shop for a few years :-))

 -Original Message-
 From: Timothy Pick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2005 10:58 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: photo printing


 Hi all,
 I'm wanting to do some photo printing from gnome.
 I have:
 HP deskjet 5160
 cups setup and printing
 some photo paper (a4 and 6x4)
 some photos

 I've had one go with a 6x4 but the photo came out with funny (large,off
 centre) borders and half off the page :(

 I can choose the right paper size in CUPS manager (either localhost:631
 or using gnome-cups-manager) but I can't see any applications that
 respect/reflect this setup.

 Has anyone had any luck with this kind of task?

 Oh, I'm on freebsd but I'm hoping the same rules apply -- they seem to
 with most other things.

 I've had a look at gnomephotoprinter -- won't let me choose a paper
 size.
 eye of gnome image viewer -- crashes when I click print.
 gthumb image viewer -- looks like it's going to allocate about half the
 6x4 page as margins.

 I'd like some click-n-go interface eventually since I'm not the only one
 who uses this computer (although I am in charge and I can do anythin I
 like), but I'm not against some CLI magic to get the job done as a once
 off -- grandparents have been asking for an up to date photo of us since
 about March!

 I don't want to waste much more photo paper!







RE: photo printing

2005-11-18 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi, Digitalmax was advertising a promo and Jumbo in Christchurch, if you hit
them up.
Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2005 1:46 p.m.
 To: Clug
 Subject: Re: photo printing


  cheapest option is put all the photos you want printed on to cd, by

 flash stick

  themselves, goto your local photo shop and ask them to print them all.

 Ack. Printing your own photos in the typical small sizes is economically
 insane. Apart from issues of paper size, image position, scaling etc you
 are facing serious issues of colour control. At the minimum you would
 need a 6-ink colour photo printer, not one of those cheap colour office
 jobs, or the shop prints will be better.

 If you want bigger, like A4, the shop prices are cheeky and you can try
 a home brew, but expect that to cost not less than $4 per page, not
 counting the stuffed up ones, in paper and ink.

  should cost about 35 cents each and save you lots of grief.

 Now what I really want to know is where you get them printed for 35¢?
 The cheapest I've seen is 60¢.

 Volker

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Be thankful for linux

2005-11-06 Thread Maurice Butler
Check out the lastest windows nightmare

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/11/more-on-sony-dangerous-decloaking.h
tml



RE: Recommendations for PC Speakers

2005-10-25 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi David,
Check out genius hf2 1250w (18watts rms per speaker) they have got the nod
of approval from the music teachers at Geraldine High School.
http://www.dove.co.nz/products/Genius/Speakers/mm1290.htm

Retail around $100

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: david merriman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 10:45 a.m.
 To: CLUG
 Subject: OT: Recommendations for PC Speakers


 Hi there,
 I'm looking to replace my pc's aging 4.1 speakers with something bright,
 shiny and new, and wondered if anyone could recommend some decent
 speakers for a reasonable price.  I'd read good things about the TDK
 Tremor series when they came out a year or two back, but I haven't kept
 up with the current state of play.

 I've got a SoundBlaster Live! Value card with both front and rear
 speaker outputs, but I don't want or need any more than a 2.1 system
 this time around, as I never watch movies or play games, so surround
 sound is a waste of money.  I play the occasional mp3, but I'm more
 concerned about music composition and playback, so decent sound is a must.

 Thanks for any ideas :-) .
 David

 --
 The dragon cast his wet, rheumy eyes, heavy-lidded with misery, over his
 kingdom-a malodorous, rot-ridden swamp, with moss cloaking brooding,
 gloomy cypresses, tree trunks like decayed teeth rising from stagnant
 ponds, creatures with mildewed fur and scales whom the meanest roadside
 zoo would have rejected--and hoped the antidepressants would kick in soon.





RE: AUI to 10baseT adapter

2005-10-01 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi
It also pays to earth one and only one of the terminators.
Maurice
 -Original Message-
 From: Craig FALCONER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 1 October 2005 8:51 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: RE: AUI to 10baseT adapter


 That will do me nicely - I must have a hub somewhere with coax on
 it still.

 If there's only two devices on a piece of 10base2, do you still need the T
 connectors and terminators?  Memory fails me on that one...



 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 4:24 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: AUI to 10baseT adapter


 I might have some cable and t pieces lying around. Also thick to 10base-2?

 Steve

 On Fri, September 30, 2005 4:15 pm, Craig FALCONER wrote:
  Does anyone have one of these floating about spare?
 
  I've got an old sparc IPC (major thanks to Shane) I'd like to get on
  the network, and it only has AUI ethernet.
 


 --
 Windows: Where do you want to go today?
 MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow?
 Linux: Are you coming or what?






Citrix replacement

2005-09-08 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi all,
A local school I work at has had the citrix server die (motherboard). The
only use it gets is to supply word and firefox for a lot of acorn NC's etc.

The teachers concern with the classes that it being used in would be happy
with open office (it is already on a number of PC) and firefox. the os is
not important just having decent browser and useful word processor are the
main considerations.

Is there a linux alternative that i could deploy instead of citrix with a
client for the acorn NC's?

Thanks Maurice




RE: Citrix replacement

2005-09-08 Thread Maurice Butler
It does not run x but debian supports the arm processor
Maurice
 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2005 7:17 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Citrix replacement
 
 
 Does the Acorn NC run X?
 
 If so it is relatively trivial.
 
 Take a look at ltsp.org and k12ltsp.org
 
 
 On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 17:59 +1200, Maurice Butler wrote:
  Hi all,
  A local school I work at has had the citrix server die 
 (motherboard). The
  only use it gets is to supply word and firefox for a lot of 
 acorn NC's etc.
  
  The teachers concern with the classes that it being used in 
 would be happy
  with open office (it is already on a number of PC) and firefox. 
 the os is
  not important just having decent browser and useful word 
 processor are the
  main considerations.
  
  Is there a linux alternative that i could deploy instead of 
 citrix with a
  client for the acorn NC's?
  
  Thanks Maurice
  
  
 -- 
 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 


RE: Database choice?

2005-08-18 Thread Maurice Butler
Steve Holdoway tickled the keyboard with
 ... what's the betting that developers are massively in favour of them???


There is an ANSI/ISO standard for SQL stored procedures called SQL/PSM
(Persistent Stored Modules) which was standardised in 1996. However, only
DB2 and the new MySQL 5 beta support it, largely because they added stored
procedures and triggers to their products quite late relative to the other
vendors.

Everyone else does there own thing, as a result unless you make a very big
commitment to one database a lot of developers avoid them and write a middle
layer between the app and the database.

Currently I am trying to port an interbase-v5 app to informix and oracle 7.
It has been a handful trying to get as much code to be common across the
three
then the rest in to the middle layer.

The store procedures can also be used to hide differences between database
as
well, but as a lot stored procedures are compiled code running in the
database it
is possible to bring the whole thing crashing down around your ears. Not a
good look
a 24x7 manufacturing environment.

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 7:17 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Database choice?


 Timothy Pick wrote:

 - stored procedure support. Stored procedures are little programs that
 can be run as database queries that can be useful for
 standardising writes and complicated reads.
 
 
 Not to start a war but there is a school of thought that stored procs
 suck. Google for it and you'll find a host of debates on the issue...
 
 
 ... what's the betting that developers are massively in favour of them???





RE: Database choice?

2005-08-18 Thread Maurice Butler
steves tickling of the keyboard produced
 Oracle 7 has been dead for YEARS! Why on earth bother porting to it. I'd
 go no further back than 8.1.7.4 as an absolute,

when one of the biggest companies in NZ use it as there standard and you
either work with or don't work

Maurice
ps not i did not say they were the smartest




RE: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Maurice Butler
I have been told the wiring at the exchange just involves put a patch cord
in the right place so what is hard?
Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2005 11:25 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: ADSL link problems



 On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:24:58 +1200
 Carl Cerecke wrote:

  I gave up and booked in a $150 visit for today to install a splitter.
 
  Just got a ring from a Telecom tech now. The idiot who did it cocked
  up the wiring at the exchange, apparently. He's fixed it. Will try
  again this evening.


 Ahh so we weren't mad after all!

 We all anticipate a burst of posting from you this evening.

 --
 Nick Rout






RE: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Maurice Butler
The problem with adsl connections is a recurring one. All it takes is some
checking - very simple to do at the completion to see that it is working as
expected. Even the best can make an error, but the error rate is reduced
significantly by checking what you have done - a lot like proof reading -
you know what you want to write but does it read that way.

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Derek Smithies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2005 3:38 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: RE: ADSL link problems


 Hi,
  The problem here is::
  drawing conclusions based on a simple model of the system




RE: ADSL modem/switch/wireless combo with Linux

2005-07-19 Thread Maurice Butler
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2005 4:50 p.m.
 To: it always pay to download the latest drivers and firmware from the
makers site as what is in the box is normally out of date.

 Subject: Re: ADSL modem/switch/wireless combo with Linux


 On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:55:10 +1200
 Bjorn Nilsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  That firmware is for the WRT54G not the WAG54G

 True and BEWARE, not all liksys products have decent firmware, I
 personally tested a combo model (not the WRT54G but I cannot
 recall which one) that was shipped to our office and it would
 CRASH upon portscan attempt with nmap, needless to say it was useless.


it always pay to download the latest drivers and firmware from the makers
site as what is in the box is normally out of date.

Maurice



RE: ADSL modem/switch/wireless combo with Linux

2005-07-18 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
I had a nightmare with the netgear stuff about 12 months ago. I couldn't get
wep or wpa working even when using netgear cards and access point. changed
the access point to linksys and away went problems

maurice

 From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:49 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: ADSL modem/switch/wireless combo with Linux


 I'm looking at buying one of these modem/switch/wireless combos.

 I'm looking for recommendations. I want reliability and works-with-linux

 So far, the choices are:
 Linksys WAG54G
 Dynalink RTA770W
 Dynalink Z660-HW
 Netgear DG834G

 They are all about the same price.

 Cheers,
 Carl.





RE: For those worried about their kids accessing the internet!

2005-07-16 Thread Maurice Butler
The performance hit you get is because you need more ram with DG - at least
128M with adsl.

I have been using http://www.advproxy.net/ and http://www.urlfilter.net/ and
the performance has been great on AMD k6-400 with 128M.

The only thing I had to do was add my own category for game sites and
allowing access at certain times for my children.

and avoid http://urlblacklist.com/ as the big list is too big and badly
sorted.

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2005 10:10 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: For those worried about their kids accessing the internet!


 Well my son is 9 and very computer savvy, so I set about finding a
 solution to him stumbling on stuff I'd rather he didn't see. I had
 seen and heard of dansguardian before, but last time I looked it seemed
 to be a pain to set up, and my ipcop box was underpowered.

 Roll on a couple of years and it is really easy to set up on ipcop. You
 *will* need an ipcop box that is gruntier than just required for your
 standard firewall. My ipcop box is 350 MHz with 64 M RAM.

 If you have ipcop you should be updated to version 1.4.6. If you aren't,
 you have more to worry about than your kids' browsing habit.

 Go to http://firewalladdons.sf.net and download vers 2.3 of the addons
 server, and install it in accordance with the instructions. (actually
 the instructions on the web site are a bit poor so here goes:

 download addons-2.3-CLI-b1.tar.gz to your desktop machine. Its quite
 small.

 scp it to your ipcop box like:

 scp -P 222 addons-2.3-CLI-b1.tar.gz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/

 log into your ipcop box with ssh and then run:

 rm -Rf /addons
 tar vxzf addons-2.3-CLI-b1.tar.gz -C /
 cd /addons
 ./addoncfg -u (ignore errors about missing files/dirs)
 ./addoncfg -i

 you will now have  an extra tab called addons in the ipcop web gui.

 Next download the Cop Plus addon from http://copplus.home.att.net/
 The current version is Copplus-2.0-GUI-b2.tar.gz There is a
 current problem
  with the link on the firewalladdons site - it points to the B1
 version, not the B2 version.
 It's about 9MB.

 Now go to the addons page in the ipcop gui, where it says Install
 new addon you need to browse to the file you just downloaded.
 Once you have done that click upload and the file will upload
 to the ipcop box and install.

 It will work straight away. Go to a any box on your lan and try to browse
  to an obviously bad page like www.porn.com and see what happens :-)

 There are some more notes on setting up authenticated proxying
 (so you can ban/allow/log by username) and other options here:

  http://firewalladdons.sourceforge.net/cop.html

 By default it is set up to ban only porn/adult stuff. There are
 heaps of other categories to play around with too. Be aware that when
 you change something and need to restart dansguardian, all web access is
 blocked for about 5 minutes as it restarts.

 I will check my usage graphs after a day or so and see how much
 extra cpu and memory it is using.
 At the moment it looks like not much cpu but about 80% more ram in use.



 --
 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]






RE: ISA riser card

2005-07-16 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
I don't like your chances. The standards for the two bus systems are very
different.
It would be like trying to fill your diesel car with petrol. Looks alright
until you turn it on then bang.

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 17 July 2005 3:52 p.m.
 To: CLUG mailing list
 Subject: ISA riser card


 A hardware question.

 I have a Dell PC with a PCI riser card.

 Can I swap it with an ISA riser card recovered from a DEC 486?

 Will it just work, or will I have to use special chants and incantations?

 Cheers Ross Drummond





RE: help desk system for gentoo

2005-07-13 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
Just building up a gentoo box to play with mantis and rt ticket systems that
appears to be a close match than bugzilla.
Thanks for the offer
Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Zane Gilmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 9:27 p.m.
 To: Clug
 Subject: Re: help desk system for gentoo


 Maurice,
 I have done a Bugzilla installation and can give you some pointers on
 how to go about it if you want.

 The thing to remember about bugzilla is that it is not helpdesk software.
 Bugzilla is primarily designed to accept notifications of bugs and
 feature requests in software from users then record and track the
 progress of their resolution.

 Software to accept and record requests for help and support from users
 is really a quite different thing.
 What you want in that sort of system is:
 -  some means of looking for trends and ongoing problems. This can lead
 to bug/feature requests but it is not the same.
 - Hardware tracking/ inventory
 - Support knowledgebase
 - other stuff not in Bugzilla


 So my recommendation is not to use Bugzilla unless it is for
 bug/software issue tracking.

 Don't get me wrong, Bugzilla is one of the best at what it does. But
 that is not helpdesk software.



 Maurice Butler wrote:
  Hi,
  I have just started managing a network for a large organisation that is
  about to get bigger.
  All ready running Linux, Mac (os x), windoze.
  Currently the IT request are written into an exercise book -
 when it can be
  found.
  I would like something like bugzilla to track the request,
 provide feedback
  to users and track time spent servicing request etc.

 See above prob' not a good fit. However because it is OSS you could
 modify it to fit :-)

 
  Essential that authentication be able to tie into ldap so users
 logged on
  the network can use the system transparently.

 Bugzilla will do that nicely. I have it authenticating against a M$ AD
 server.

 
  Thanks Maurice
 
 





RE: Nick's MythTV presentation

2005-07-12 Thread Maurice Butler
Dove electronics wholesale the shuttle range and have the dynalink tv card -
you will need to find some one with an account

www.dove.co.nz

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:49 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Nick's MythTV presentation


  I for one was thoroughly impressed with Nick's MythTV presentation
  last night.

 Was that the presentation, the presented software, or both? ;-)))
 (I'd say both.)

 What I'd be interested in is some actual pricing, and where to get the
 TV card and somewhat non-standard PC items from. The TV cards don't seem
 to be as cheap - Hauppage PVR-150MCE (the non-remote less-feature OEM
 version) $190 or the full one $240, PVR500 $330. Any better source?
 What's a good source in town for the mini-ITX stuff? And it needs to
 take a standard-size 5.25 optical drive or it's not much good.

 Volker

 --
 Volker Kuhlmann   is possibly list0570 with
 the domain in header
 http://volker.dnsalias.net/   Please do not CC list
 postings to me.





help desk system for gentoo

2005-07-11 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
I have just started managing a network for a large organisation that is
about to get bigger.
All ready running Linux, Mac (os x), windoze.
Currently the IT request are written into an exercise book - when it can be
found.
I would like something like bugzilla to track the request, provide feedback
to users and track time spent servicing request etc.

Essential that authentication be able to tie into ldap so users logged on
the network can use the system transparently.

Thanks Maurice



RE: help desk system for gentoo

2005-07-11 Thread Maurice Butler
thanks Andre,
searching I also found rt and rtir at
http://www.bestpractical.com/products.html
now to spend time downloading, looking and comparing
Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Renaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 12 July 2005 2:27 p.m.
 To: Clug
 Subject: Re: help desk system for gentoo


 If you're looking for a simple bug tracking system, try out mantis
 http://www.mantisbt.org/. I don't thinkg it does time tracking, but it
 does all the other stuff (including ldap authentication), and is
 certainly very easy to setup.

 Andre

 On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 14:19 +1200, Maurice Butler wrote:
  Hi,
  I have just started managing a network for a large organisation that is
  about to get bigger.
  All ready running Linux, Mac (os x), windoze.
  Currently the IT request are written into an exercise book -
 when it can be
  found.
  I would like something like bugzilla to track the request,
 provide feedback
  to users and track time spent servicing request etc.
 
  Essential that authentication be able to tie into ldap so users
 logged on
  the network can use the system transparently.
 
  Thanks Maurice
 
 --
 Bluewater Systems Ltd - ARM Technology Solutions Centre

Andre Renaud Bluewater Systems Ltd
 Phone: +64 3 3779127 (Aus 1 800 148 751)Level 17, 119 Armagh St
 Fax:   +64 3 3779135PO Box 13889
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christchurch
 Web:   http://www.bluewatersys.com  New Zealand





RE: [OT] Public Liability - was Re: telecom outage - Some history

2005-06-24 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,
Years ago my brother got across Europe on a south island passport (on of the
ones that where around in the 80's)

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: John Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 24 June 2005 3:45 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: [OT] Public Liability - was Re: telecom outage - Some
 history


 On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Shane wrote:

  Any takers to help organise a letter, partition...?

 Now there's a notion, perhaps it was a just typo and not a notion, but it
 triggers distant memories none the less...

 There is a small fishing and tourism town near Capetown in South Africa
 called Houtbay.

 During the Apartheid Era, as a semi-serious protest come public relations
 stunt, they ceremonially cut the telephone cable to Pretoria and printed
 their own passports.

 As far as I know they didn't actually cut the real cable, just
 symbolically.

 And the passports?

 As far as I know several blokes are trying to see how far around
 the world
 they can get on a Houtbay passport!



 John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
 Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 New Zealand

 Carter's Clarification of Murphy's Law.

 Things only ever go right so that they may go more spectacularly
 wrong later.

 From this principle, all of life and physics may be deduced.





Forcing disk check on reboot

2005-06-20 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi all,
running e2fsck -n -f on  my ipcop box I hav problems on the root drive. how
do i force it to fix the disk on the next reboot.

Maurice

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs1.1G  194M  846M  19% /
/dev/root 1.1G  194M  846M  19% /
/dev/harddisk1 16M  3.8M   12M  25% /boot
/dev/harddisk23.0G  158M  2.7G   6% /var/log
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # e2fsck -n -f /dev/root
e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
Warning!  /dev/root is mounted.
Warning: skipping journal recovery because doing a read-only filesystem
check.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Block bitmap differences:  +136190 -136193
Fix? no


/dev/root: ** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **

/dev/root: 5578/136800 files (0.3% non-contiguous), 53863/273105 blocks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ #



RE: Forcing disk check on reboot

2005-06-20 Thread Maurice Butler
Hi,

I pulled it out and put it in my gentoo box, fixed it up and put it back.

Things still aren't right - think I have a problem on the motherboard so
sorting thought the grave yard to find another suitable box.

It is not a ram problem as I tested it with memtest86 (off the gentoo cd),
may be this is why it was traded in.

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 2:44 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Forcing disk check on reboot


 On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:00, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  man tune2fs
 There is a bit more to it than that.
 You cannot do a repairing file check on a mounted filesystem.
 Doing so will kill off the data set with a fair degree of
 certainty, so the
 only safe way to do so is to boot the machine using different
 root and boot
 partitions.

 Toms root and boot. ( Floppy )
 http://www.toms.net/rb/

 0r BG-Rescue ( Two floppies, but imho better than Tom's because
 chroot works )
 http://www.giannone.de

 But apparently NZ is not the only country in the world where
 back-hoe diggers
 occasionally have intimate, earthy, and catastrophic
 relationships with fibre
 cables :-) so I've put the diskette images here:-
 http://shell.clug.net.nz:8080/~chris/

 Not the latest, but good enough.

 Or Knoppix ( CDROM )
 Download per BitTorrent: http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/
 3.9 is out!

  On Tue, June 21, 2005 12:47 pm, Maurice Butler said:
   Hi all,
   running e2fsck -n -f on  my ipcop box I hav problems on the
 root drive.
   how
   do i force it to fix the disk on the next reboot.
  
   Maurice
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # df -h
   FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
   rootfs1.1G  194M  846M  19% /
   /dev/root 1.1G  194M  846M  19% /
   /dev/harddisk1 16M  3.8M   12M  25% /boot
   /dev/harddisk23.0G  158M  2.7G   6% /var/log
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # e2fsck -n -f /dev/root
   e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
   Warning!  /dev/root is mounted.
   Warning: skipping journal recovery because doing a read-only
 filesystem
   check.
   Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
   Pass 2: Checking directory structure
   Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
   Pass 4: Checking reference counts
   Pass 5: Checking group summary information
   Block bitmap differences:  +136190 -136193
   Fix? no
  
  
   /dev/root: ** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **
  
   /dev/root: 5578/136800 files (0.3% non-contiguous),
 53863/273105 blocks
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ #





RE: Gmail invitation

2005-06-03 Thread Maurice Butler (Like Magic)
2 that I have used
mail.com
yahoo.com

Maurice

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Himmelmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 3 June 2005 7:51 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Gmail invitation


 I only use GMail except for mailing lists and big files (10Mb). The
 latter problem might be connected with my being on 56k. Could someone
 please give me the names of some other free providers? I am collecting
 mail-adresses.

 Robert Fisher wrote:

 On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 19:16, Robert Himmelmann wrote:
 
 
 There must be a few more options than GMail.
 
 
 
 Yes there are but I took the advice and used Gmail. I does seem
 quite good and
 it was not too hard to set up Kmail to use the Gmail account,
 especially when
 I found my typo.
 
 


 --
 Happy Hacking,
 Robert Himmelmann

 Only those who leisurely approach that which the masses are busy about
 can be busy about that which the masses take leisurely.
   -- Lao Tsu

 Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Gödel's Theorem ...
   -- Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow




Setting up new network

2005-05-26 Thread Maurice Butler (Like Magic)
Hi,
After having a great time with gentoo I think I am ready to set up a new
network for my home business.

At the moment everything is ad hock.

Some pointers are required if I should use MS active directory or openLDAP.

If I use openLDAP how to I glue the windows machines to it ?

I have
==
1 x win2000 server (MS SQL 2000  Borland Star Team)
1 x win xp pro work station used for software development (Delphi)
1 x win xp pro work station used for admin, email
1 x win xp home pc used by son for games, music
1 x win 2000 laptop used on site  occasionally at home
1 x snap server (box of disks shared) to be replaced

1 x ipcop 1.4.6 firewall

To add
==

1 x gentoo with mail (instead of exchange - would like some of the features
of exchange ie checking mail on any pc, with folders - IMAP), web server
(apache for internal use at this stage), ftp

1 x gentoo samba file server (to replace snap server) with variety of SQL
servers (mySQL etc) for testing applications

Maurice



RE: Setting up new network

2005-05-26 Thread Maurice Butler (Like Magic)

Nick said:
I am lazy and simply manage all users (such as they are) to have the
same username and password on each windows and linux box. It is a pain
frankly and I should a play with ldap.

That is what I am looking at moving away from

Maurice




RE: Setting up new network

2005-05-26 Thread Maurice Butler (Like Magic)


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, 27 May 2005 12:43 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Setting up new network



 On Fri, May 27, 2005 11:48 am, Nick Rout said:
  hmmm this might be useful:
 
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Implement_Samba_as_your_PDC
 
 
  On Fri, 27 May 2005 11:42:09 +1200
  Nick Rout wrote:
 
 
  On Fri, 27 May 2005 11:29:07 +1200
  Maurice Butler (Like Magic) wrote:
 
  [how do i make openldap work]
 
 The problem is that a samba server can never act as a controller in an
 active directory environment. the PDC that you create is NT4 compliant,
 which hamstrings all the wonderful features of win 2000 ( cough! )

 How about a radical solution... make win 2000 your domain controller, and
 then authenticate against it? I think you'll find it simpler, and will
 make more business sense unless you're looking at dropping all windoze
 development.


interesting concept - will have to do some research on that one


 As for the network... I'd use IPCop for all of it! You *must* implement a
 DMZ, and use it religously for a) sons strange surfing tendencies and b)
 unsanitary laptops. With Nicks help ( especially the bit where he kept
 telling me it could be done! ), I found that you can control an adsl
 router, making that side simpler to maintain.

blue not wireless but for son and laptop


 As for your new gentoo machine(s)... I'd probably just get the one for all
 of your requirements. I can give you plenty of help in getting a decent
 mail server enabled - along with great anti spam and antivirus support on
 the server side (: .


that would be great - i could get most things installed and the finsih the
setup later

 Unless you're throwing huge amounts of data around, supporting a website
 requires little horsepower, and with the help of IPCop/dynamic dns server,
 can be an easy way to showcase your ideas ( if only at 128kb! ), better
 than lugging loads of kit around and you know it works before you leave
 the office.

28kb typical - being trying since christmas to get something faster but
telecom always seem to have a reason not to connect adsl after lots of
delays the target this time is the 30th


 The other side of this is that once you've got your desktops running linux
 and providing the usual office functions but authenticating off a M$
 domain server, you can go out and flog a real alternative!

 Cheers,


 Steve.
 --
 Windows: Where do you want to go today?
 MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow?
 Linux: Are you coming or what?




RE: gimp

2005-05-25 Thread Maurice Butler (Like Magic)
The network sections assumes that it works from the live disc - if it
doesn't then you have to do a stage 3 install. then try and get it going -
the 2005.0 instructions left out the bit about modules (now rectified). At
this point the where you have finial got your network card working the some
of the instructions you need are back at the original set-up instruction of
livecd. Portions of the instructions are in the wrong section. The wireless
section has a lot of info that applies to all the networking.

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 7:09 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: RE: gimp


On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 17:16 +1200, Maurice Butler (Like Magic) wrote:
 The
 documentation is a shambles in regard to networking

aprdon? in what respect?

 - I have managed to get
 part of it changed and are currently working on getting some more
 cleaned
 up.
--
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: gimp

2005-05-24 Thread Maurice Butler (Like Magic)
I have been installing gentoo 2005.0 from the manual on a number of
machines. (slowly replacing windoze servers -nt3.5/4/2000)

There is a couple of issues dependant on hardware.

You can have a very smooth ride if the live disc recognises all your
hardware.
If not the going gets tough - especially with the networking - yet to have
it working during the install but have managed to get it working after. The
documentation is a shambles in regard to networking - I have managed to get
part of it changed and are currently working on getting some more cleaned
up.

Maurice



-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 4:32 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: gimp


Robert Fisher wrote:

On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:53, Steve Holdoway wrote:


I think that's a bit harsh, Douglas. I think of gimp as the gentoo of the
imageing arena.


=

I think that is a bit harsh Steve.

I think that the Gentoo Docs are probably amongst the best of any distro.



About 6 months ago, I sat down to install gentoo using only the
resources available on that site. Even ardent admirers like Nick agreed
that this is impossible to do. The docs missed out too many really
important things - just took them for granted. ( and pointing out
alternative third party resources is missing the point ).

This is the point I'm trying to make.

Cheers,


Steve





RE: gimp

2005-05-24 Thread Maurice Butler (Like Magic)
Red eye reduction - the quickest and most effective is select the red area
of the eyes and desaturation (remove the colour). This leaves the eye very
close to natural - last 20 years in the photo lab we had a fine tipped green
felt pen (indelible) that we when over the red eyes with on the prints.

Maurice

-Original Message-
From: Douglas Royds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 4:02 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: gimp


Nick Rout wrote:
 One thing people perhaps have to get used to with open source software
 is not only the different programming and distribution models, but the
 vastly different support models. You won't just pop into Paper Plus and
 buy a Dummies book for anything and everything.

Grokking the GIMP is in fact that book. It's good, it's in the Chch
Public Library, and it's available for free on-line (free beer)!


Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
You appear to be unhappy because there is no working point-and-shoot
solution for colour temperature. You are very likely right. I have equally
not found a working point-and-shoot red-eye reduction, or certainly, none
that satisfies me. So I just use the GIMP to do both red-eye and colour
correction myself. It isn't difficult.

 I would expect a functional pick white-type colour correction function
 without any question in any decent photo editor. Using the existing
 colour correction tools isn't difficult, but somehow the results are not
 good. Probably part of it is my fault, but I didn't find a set of
 operations which gibe acceptible results, after several tries.

I agree. Better scripts - more point-and-shoot - would certainly help the
GIMP a lot.

By the way, I'd also quite like a decent red-eye plug-in, while you're at
it.

 There's a tutorial on that on gimpguru.org, which at first glance seems
 a superb teaching site. However you can't compare a white balance
 correction (simple algorithm taking about 2 simple parameters) with red
 eye removal (more complicated algorithm with a select-region problem),
 which I therefore wouldn't lump under basic functionality. Mightily
 handy though if it was there and worked...

I'd really just like a point-and-shoot script that sets up the channels and
brushes for the user, so that they can wave the brush over the affected
eyes. No need for complete automation. Such a script wouldn't be
complicated, but is currently at position #649 on my list of things to do.

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