Re: GLUG Funds.
Fair enough comment Peter. And probably a very timely one. The donor of the $100 is welcome to contact CLUG though me if he wishes. My understanding was that he donated the $100 when it appeared that the install fest was running at a loss knowing full well that we hadnt at that stage sorted out all of our installfest income. As far as I am aware he knew that CLUG as a whole was running in credit as well. He clearly indicated to me when he handed the money over to CLUG that the money should be used either for CLUG directly or for the the linux movement in any other way that we should see fit, at any time. cheers, Nick E primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 16 October 2002 10:02 am, you wrote: I think that $100 should be returned to the anonymous* donor, or at least his thoughts sought, since he made the donation following the Install Fest when it appeared that CLUG was financially in dire straits. Youre all now trying hard to give his money away. (*Not strictly anonymous as he was known to at least one person.) Peter.
CLUG funds update (balance as of 15th October 2002)
$366.60 Balance from 29th August 2002 meeting $+65.25 collected at Wednesday 2nd October meeting $-15.00 Hall hire for Octobers $-07.25 Supper expenses == $409.60 Balance as of 15th October 2002. == Two points: Although I have these funds locked in a secure place. I think this money is building up to a lot for one person to be responsible for. Should we look at putting it in a bank ( I was wondering if kiwibank might be a cost effective place to put it?) Or do we spend it on assets of some kind.? Nick E
Re: CLUG funds update (balance as of 15th October 2002)
On Tuesday 15 October 2002 10:22 am, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: $366.60 Balance from 29th August 2002 meeting $+65.25 collected at Wednesday 2nd October meeting $-15.00 Hall hire for Octobers $-07.25 Supper expenses == $409.60 Balance as of 15th October 2002. == Two points: Although I have these funds locked in a secure place. I think this money is building up to a lot for one person to be responsible for. Should we look at putting it in a bank ( I was wondering if kiwibank might be a cost effective place to put it?) Or do we spend it on assets of some kind.? third point: can we use some of these funds to promote linux, or to help the linux community perhaps? Nick E
Re: CLUG meeting Thursday the 14th of November-correction
On Sunday 13 October 2002 4:35 pm, Nick Elder wrote: ** My dad accidently recorded a 20 minute interview with Linus Torvald talking about linux on the BBC (Sorry about that mind didn't connect to the fingers typing, hopefully it makes sense now, Nick E) (was on late one night apparently) and has lent me the tape. I could bring that along along with a VCR and a TV if anyone is interested in seeing it? Nick E On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 19:15, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:44, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: The extra meeting we booked is for Thursday the 14th of November at the Sydenham community centre. Mahesh was hoping to do a talk on distro's (Chris Sawtell was going to do a complementary talk on Gentoo along with it). Unfortunately was is the correct tense of the verb. Now that I've got this Avonmre thingie on Tues and Thurs evenings and as it's actually a for pay situation, there is most unfortunately a genuine reason for me not to be at the CLUG meeting. Please excuse me? But now Mahesh finds that he is most likely going to be absent. Anyone else want to take up the reins on this talk or do we have any other suggestions please? Reply in list please! Thursday 5th December meeting is still booked in as well of course! Do we have a practical workshop for that one? Could we do something different in the hall for the end of the year pehaps? Any ideas? A traditional type of end of year social do of some kind might be quite a good idea. Why don't we combine this with some emergency fixups for Christmas to folks' Linux boxes during the first hour or so. What about something like that. Bring your rescue disks, those who know how to use them. There is sufficient warning of this one, so I'll swap the day so I can get to this meeting. Meeting in Jan? Again suggestions in list please taa -- Sincerely etc., Christopher Sawtell
Re: Test
LOL On Monday 14 October 2002 4:36 pm, Martin Baehr wrote: On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 04:32:25PM +1300, Nick Rout wrote: real sorry about this paople, mail system snafu being worked on right now :-) hmm, one misspelled word, and one word that's not in the dictionary, the content is not very creative and you failed to keep to the suggested topic. can't give this a better grade than a D, sorry. greetings, martin.
CLUG meeting Thursday the 14th of November
The extra meeting we booked is for Thursday the 14th of November at the Sydenham community centre. Mahesh was hoping to do a talk on distro's (Chris Sawtell was going to do a complementary talk on Gentoo along with it). But now Mahesh finds that he is most likely going to be absent. Anyone else want to take up the reins on this talk or do we have any other suggestions please? Reply in list please! Thursday 5th December meeting is still booked in as well of course! Do we have a practical workshop for that one? Could we do something different in the hall for the end of the year pehaps? Any ideas? Again suggestions in list please taa
Re: Personal accounting program
On Friday 04 October 2002 4:13 pm, Nick Rout wrote: Nick Elder looked seriously at some accounting apps recently for his business, but he may not have been looking at the sort of program you are after. Yes, In the end I settled with konto ( http://halfdans.net/index.py?p=konto ) but it is a tracking and invoiceing program. We are about to use it properly next week. We needid a simple program that any of the staff could use and it did'nt need to be a full blown accounting pack. I searched for hours on google, rpmfind and freshmeat etc and there is sql-ledger open source, and a hand full of commercial packages that may fit your requirments. I can't recommend any at the moment off the cuff at the moment though sorry Carl. At a recent meeting of the Christchurch Computer society that a few of our CLUG members attended, the speaker Neil Urwin mentioned that the linux community was missing a descent accounting package. A view our Dave Lane agreed with if I remember rightly. As usual with open source it seems, eventually some kind and clever sole/s will get around to writing a usefull application so we can all benifit! regards, Nick Elder On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:05:00 +1200 Carl Cerecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Any recommendations for a good personal accounting program for Linux? I want something with good support for recurring transactions (i.e. I want to say transaction X happens on the nth of every month etc., and not have to re-enter it all the time) gnucash didn't have this feature last time I looked. Cheers, Carl
Re: Trouble shooting evening
Thanks for the help men, Cool I can burn CDs now. Yahooey, 650megs burned in less than 8 minutes too cheers, Nick E On Thursday 03 October 2002 9:06 am, Nick Rout wrote: I got the impression that last night's meeting was a success. I hope it becomes a regular event as its an opportunity for a different sort of interaction from the other presentation style meetings. I think we fixed most peoples problems, except perhaps Barry's, and he does have some weird problems :-)
Re: Trouble shooting evening
On Thursday 03 October 2002 2:44 pm, Nick Rout wrote: don't tell me you needed assistance at the meeting?? I shouldnt neet to have to tell you. Actually I don't know half as much as you all think I do! regards, NE On Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:11:07 +1200 Nick Elder CLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the help men, Cool I can burn CDs now. Yahooey, 650megs burned in less than 8 minutes too cheers, Nick E On Thursday 03 October 2002 9:06 am, Nick Rout wrote: I got the impression that last night's meeting was a success. I hope it becomes a regular event as its an opportunity for a different sort of interaction from the other presentation style meetings. I think we fixed most peoples problems, except perhaps Barry's, and he does have some weird problems :-)
Re: CLUG Meeting Wednesday 2nd October
Update! So far I have one name Graham Barnett registered to bring his problem linux boxem to our meeting! Looks like we have plenty of room for more! Please register by emailing me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I dont miss your email amongst all my other mail. cheers, Nick Elder On Wednesday 25 September 2002 9:18 am, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: Matt and members, The meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 2nd October in the Sydenham hall. ( http://christchurch.lug.net.nz/ ) The idea is to have a problems workshop. I suggest that anyone with a machine that needs looking at, should email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we can make a list of expected machines, for this meeting. I think we could probably only have about eight machines in the hall. Participants bringing their linux boxes/ems will be required to bring all thier relavent PC stuff including monitors mouse and keyboard etc. A mains multi box and possible extension cord would also be advantages. Nick Elder ( I unfortunetly will be away from my PC for the rest of today) On Wednesday 25 September 2002 1:09 pm, Matt Agnew wrote: There was talk at the last meeting of a troubleshooting session for the next meeting - is this still on, and is there a signup sheet? I've installed Mandrake alongside Win2k and Win98 and can't get into the Linux partition. Alternatively, is someone willing to come to my house and help me in exchange for free beer? This would be ideal as my monitor won't fit in my car (Hillman Imp). BTW - I'm a newbie here, both in Linux and in residency (since July). So far I love Chch but y'all talk funny and drive on the wrong side of the road (yeah, I'm a Yank). I see there is at least one more recovering American on the list... Thanks, Matt
CLUG Meeting Wednesday 2nd October (Re: 2/10 meeting - t-shooting workshop?)
Matt and members, The meeting is scheduled for Wednesday 2nd October in the Sydenham hall. ( http://christchurch.lug.net.nz/ ) The idea is to have a problems workshop. I suggest that anyone with a machine that needs looking at, should email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we can make a list of expected machines, for this meeting. I think we could probably only have about eight machines in the hall. Participants bringing their linux boxes/ems will be required to bring all thier relavent PC stuff including monitors mouse and keyboard etc. A mains multi box and possible extension cord would also be advantages. Nick Elder ( I unfortunetly will be away from my PC for the rest of today) On Wednesday 25 September 2002 1:09 pm, Matt Agnew wrote: There was talk at the last meeting of a troubleshooting session for the next meeting - is this still on, and is there a signup sheet? I've installed Mandrake alongside Win2k and Win98 and can't get into the Linux partition. Alternatively, is someone willing to come to my house and help me in exchange for free beer? This would be ideal as my monitor won't fit in my car (Hillman Imp). BTW - I'm a newbie here, both in Linux and in residency (since July). So far I love Chch but y'all talk funny and drive on the wrong side of the road (yeah, I'm a Yank). I see there is at least one more recovering American on the list... Thanks, Matt
Re: Next two CLUG meetings
With sincere appologies to Chris Sawtell for clashing with the Avonmore Linux course I will book in 14th of November for our extra meeting at the Sydenham Hall! Nick E On Thursday 12 September 2002 3:34 pm, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: Hi, The next meeting is booked for Wednesday 2nd October, I propose we go ahead with our workshop idea for that meeting. And a little nearer the time book eight computers belonging to our mailing list members, for our technical experts to help out with. Also we will of course have supper and a general chin wag. I have contacted the Sydenham Hall bookings officer and asked for a list of evenings in November when the Hall is available to us to have an extra meeting. I half remembered that the linux course at Avonmore was on Wednesdays and Thursdays so asked for days other than these week days if possible. Janet the bookings officer, has come back to me with with a reply saying that the only evening in the whole month available is Thursday the 14th of November. I propose we accept this date as we don't have much choice, and have our usual style meeting that night. I am wondering if Mahesh could do a talk then, on Linux Distros ? Your comments invited! regards, Nick Elder (Anachaic CLUG member at large) On Tuesday 03 September 2002 10:20 am, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: A show of hands was asked for, for those interested in holding monthly instead of bi-monthly meetings. Overwhelming majority were in favour of monthly meetings. The idea of having our usual kind of meeting one month and a trouble shooting workshop the next month was suggested. There was a general consensus in favour of this idea. It was suggested booking eight or so computers prior to the workshop, so as not to have to many machines for the venue or trouble shooters. I see the next meeting scheduled for the Sydenham hall is about a month away since it it at the beginning of the month this time ( Wednesday 2nd October ). I wonder if we can try squeezing eight computers in and have our trouble-shooter/workshop in there, next meeting? I think we could! Nick E
Next two CLUG meetings
Hi, The next meeting is booked for Wednesday 2nd October, I propose we go ahead with our workshop idea for that meeting. And a little nearer the time book eight computers belonging to our mailing list members, for our technical experts to help out with. Also we will of course have supper and a general chin wag. I have contacted the Sydenham Hall bookings officer and asked for a list of evenings in November when the Hall is available to us to have an extra meeting. I half remembered that the linux course at Avonmore was on Wednesdays and Thursdays so asked for days other than these week days if possible. Janet the bookings officer, has come back to me with with a reply saying that the only evening in the whole month available is Thursday the 14th of November. I propose we accept this date as we don't have much choice, and have our usual style meeting that night. I am wondering if Mahesh could do a talk then, on Linux Distros ? Your comments invited! regards, Nick Elder (Anachaic CLUG member at large) On Tuesday 03 September 2002 10:20 am, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: A show of hands was asked for, for those interested in holding monthly instead of bi-monthly meetings. Overwhelming majority were in favour of monthly meetings. The idea of having our usual kind of meeting one month and a trouble shooting workshop the next month was suggested. There was a general consensus in favour of this idea. It was suggested booking eight or so computers prior to the workshop, so as not to have to many machines for the venue or trouble shooters. I see the next meeting scheduled for the Sydenham hall is about a month away since it it at the beginning of the month this time ( Wednesday 2nd October ). I wonder if we can try squeezing eight computers in and have our trouble-shooter/workshop in there, next meeting? I think we could! Nick E
Re: New to NZ, Uni Linux (sort of)
Alan, Welcome to NZ and our mailing group. cheers, Nick E On Thursday 12 September 2002 1:32 pm, Alan Greenstreet wrote: Hi 2U all Well... from the title you could guess that being new to everything is a nightmare in the making. I'm new to NZ (2 months here so far and liking it) having come from the UK. I'm new to the University having returned to study after 12 years in the rat race. I'm relatively new to linux (put it this way I don't send kernel patches to Linus! - yet :0) ). What better way to find out who is out there than starting a conversation with those with a common interest - Linux. I currently run a Mandrake distro (v7.?) on a Toshiba P166 laptop, a SuSe distro (v6.?) on a P120 desktop and a version of Small Linux on a very old Dell 386 laptop which runs in Ram Disk (under 4Mb!). I am also about to install BeOS on another Dell laptop. I read with interest some comments about home networks and this will be the next stage in my attempt to teach myself all that is computing. Initially with two or three desktops. So, I guess I'm introducing myself to CLUG... Regards Alan
Re: IRC Chat Invitation
At the risk of starting a client war, I would like to recomend xchat for any newbies to IRC or mIRC if you are still useing windows. (xchat has also been ported to windows so you could get used to it, ready for when you switch to linux (noticed I said when)) Bitchx is for the command line user I think. see: www.slashnet.org/connect.php for a list of clients (I know xchat is on Redhat 7.3 and on Mandrake 7.x/8.x install disks, and may have been installed by default) One reason why I like xchat is because I can open a new server window and be on two networks at once. That way I can be in #clug on the irc.linux.net network and in #nzlinux channel on the undernet network at the same time! cheers, Nick Elder On Wednesday 11 September 2002 4:10 pm, Paul wrote: Hi all .. you can use any irc client to get to the #clug channel on the irc.linux.com network - its actually hosted on slashnet.org open the client then use /server irc.linux.com ... upon connection use /join #clug see you there .. bring your tales of woe .. maybe someone will care (oops!) uh might have an answer ... Paul Swafford (Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre) (Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ) (ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)
Re: IRC Chat Invitation
On Wednesday 11 September 2002 5:41 pm, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: At the risk of starting a client war, I would like to recomend xchat for any newbies to IRC or mIRC if you are still useing windows. (xchat has also been ported to windows so you could get used to it, ready for when you switch to linux (noticed I said when)) Bitchx is for the command line user I think. see: www.slashnet.org/connect.php for a list of clients (I know xchat is on Redhat 7.3 and on Mandrake 7.x/8.x install disks, and may have been installed by default) One reason why I like xchat is because I can open a new server window and be on two networks at once. That way I can be in #clug on the irc.linux.net network and in #nzlinux channel on the undernet network at correction make that irc.linux.com not net! * the same time! cheers, Nick Elder On Wednesday 11 September 2002 4:10 pm, Paul wrote: Hi all .. you can use any irc client to get to the #clug channel on the irc.linux.com network - its actually hosted on slashnet.org open the client then use /server irc.linux.com ... upon connection use /join #clug see you there .. bring your tales of woe .. maybe someone will care (oops!) uh might have an answer ... Paul Swafford (Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre) (Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ) (ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)
Re: Rute Manual
While on the subject of printing rute manuals. It was sugested to me at the last meeting that we should take Craig up on his offer and get one or two more manuals printed with the CLUG funds and have another one or two door prizes at the next and subsequent meeting/s? Any thoughts? NE On Tuesday 10 September 2002 12:35 pm, C Falconer wrote: Don't forget I can print you one at cost for $19. Thats bound in a spiraly plastic binding, with laminated covers. (and it is within the terms of the RUTE licence, because you are instituting the printing of the book.) On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 12:13, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:24, Tim Wright wrote: Well, I'm back..and unfortunatly didn't find a bookstore that stocked it. However, their RRP (they could have ordered it) was US$40. So the Amazon cost of $86nz looks pretty good. btw, Has anybody had a chance to have a good look at this yet? A paraphrased comment from a newby was that it's Completely over my head, total waste of money. I've been at this Linux game for a fair while now so tend to disagree with the newbie's feelings on the subject, but I am wondering what other folks think? The reason for the question is that I would be grateful for the list's wisdom so that I can give these Avonmore students a wider opinion than just my own, which btw is Good reference and learning resource, possibly too deep too soon. It seems to go from computing sub-basics to pretty solid stuff in just a page or two. -- Sincerely etc., Christopher Sawtell
Re: IRC anyone?
Sounds good enough for me, c u there! On Monday 09 September 2002 1:10 pm, Paul wrote: well on irc.linux.com .. #clug looks ok .. I've registered it .. so pop in and give it a try ... undernet is a really awful network - even slashnet.org is a bit slow .. part of the reason I suggested my own was to cut down international traffic .. anyway - See you on irc.linux.com ... use /join #clug on connection regards Paul Swafford (Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre) (Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ) (ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com) On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: May I suggest we try it, but use one of the openprojects servers such as irc.openproject.net or irc.linux.com these can be found in most linux clients menus. I particularly like xchat that comes with most distros now days. Click on the first button on the top menu called simply xchat then select server list. And all the servers are listed there. I suggest we call the channel #clug-nz as clug is used by the calgary lug I think from memory! Nick E On Monday 09 September 2002 12:09 pm, C Falconer wrote: Yes - but whats the address? Or simply join the #clug or #nzlinux channels on undernet. On Mon, 2002-09-09 at 11:31, Gareth Williams wrote: And excellent idea IMO :-) On Monday 09 September 2002 11:20, Paul wrote: Just a starter for 10 .. is there an IRC channel where some clug members can be found. I was wondering about hosting a #clug channel on my IRC server. it might help take some of the spam element out of the list... thoughts ?? Paul Swafford (Manager, E-caf@The Arts Centre) (Level 2/28 Worcester Boulevard, Christchurch, NZ) (ph/fax +64 3 3656480 www.e-caf.com)
Re: CLUG Meeting Notes 29th August 2002
A show of hands was asked for, for those interested in holding monthly instead of bi-monthly meetings. Overwhelming majority were in favour of monthly meetings. The idea of having our usual kind of meeting one month and a trouble shooting workshop the next month was suggested. There was a general consensus in favour of this idea. It was suggested booking eight or so computers prior to the workshop, so as not to have to many machines for the venue or trouble shooters. I see the next meeting scheduled for the Sydenham hall is about a month away since it it at the beginning of the month this time ( Wednesday 2nd October ). I wonder if we can try squeezing eight computers in and have our trouble-shooter/workshop in there, next meeting? I think we could! Nick E
Installfest finances update 2
Hi, Every one owed for expenses for the install fest have been reimbursed. Except for Leo, of whom I have put aside his eight dollars. Chris Hellyar has three install fest tea shirts left, he can sell if you ask him nicely. If they are not sold he is happy to keep them for his own use. Mean while all CDs have been sold and paid for. All tea shirts have been paid for that have been sold (as far as I am aware) With the help of the $100 dollar donation and by making a small profit on CD sales. We now have a profit of $144.25 from the install fest. CLUG funds held at the moment are: $159.90 Money collected from the bi-monthly meetings $144.25 from installfest (including donation) $304.15 Balance I am holding for CLUG (locked away in a safe place) c u at the meeting tomorrow night. (On Thursday) Nick Elder (if you are new to the list, meeting details are at: http://christchurch.lug.net.nz/ ) On Tuesday 23 July 2002 10:37 am, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: $422.60 takings -$10.00 Mrs Sawtell for the lovely baking. Thank her please Chris. -$75.70 100 floppy disks, ream of paper, paper cups -$ 3.34 Milk, tea spoons the following members have not yet been reimbursed (but will be) -$8.00 Leo for blue balloons -$351.22 Chris Hellyer for hundreds of CDs, tea shirts. -$56.00 Mahesh DeSilva more CDs **$81.66** Loss at the moment. I understand however that some CLUG members owe us for tea shirts. ( Please confirm who you are to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) I am also in the process of selling a few more distros to people we couldnt supply to on Saturday. Also we have five tea shirts left @$10 ea. So if you want one of these souvenirs then please bring $10 to the next meeting. (and Chris the shirts please) Stock unsold/held: 80 floppy disks (boxes if 25) (These can be sold to raise some funds) Now 30 floppy disks ream of paper (Can be sold to raise some funds) 40 paper cups 5 tea shirts (new entry) 80 blue balloons approx' Nick Elder ___ Installfest mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxnut.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/installfest ---
(CLUG) IMPORTANT HEAD COUNT PLEASE REPLY
Hi, With regard to the next meeting Thursday 29th of August, presently planed to be held in the Sydenham Community Hall. Due to some concerns on the size of this venue it is thought that we should check how many plan to attend. Please write YES in the subject line of a blank email if you think you WILL be attending the meeting and send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can make a count. cheers, Nick E Thursday 29th of August Meeting Zane Gilmore will be chairman/MC for this meeting. There will most likely be General business Supper A talk by Carl Cerecke on Linux Fundementals including the following: Files and directories. File/directory permissions. Processes. Signals. Shells. Pipes/redirection. Some common unix utilities. And the opportunity to ask questions.
Re: nVidia video cards
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 2:19 pm, Nick Rout wrote: someone on installfest day was asking me about these cards, I said I would get a price. Who was it again? Sorry I had so many conversationsI just cannot remember who it was. I saw you talking to yourself Nick ;-)
Re: $100 Donation for installfest/CLUG expenses
When we sell the remaining T shirts and if we had of sold those floppys we would have pretty well have broken even. But if we end up, up due to the donation that is OK also. As the benefactor has given us the money as a good will gesture in support of LINUX and CLUG. We can put it toward the next 'fest or meetings. But still I personally think that perhaps a $3 charge each for a burned CD would be a good bet next time! But I agree that better budgeting would'nt go astray either! NE On Wednesday 24 July 2002 3:35 pm, Tim Wright wrote: On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: I got an email from a person of whom would prefer to stay anonymous yesterday. Offering to donate $100 to CLUG in exchange for 50 floppy discs that we have left over from the installfest. I took the liberty of accepting his kind generousity, and thanking him very much on our behalf. I'm *guessing* he's on the list, so big thanks :) I guess next time we should do a little budget beforehand. tim http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~tnw13 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Installfest finances update.
$422.60 takings -$10.00 Mrs Sawtell for the lovely baking. Thank her please Chris. -$75.70 100 floppy disks, ream of paper, paper cups -$ 3.34 Milk, tea spoons the following members have not yet been reimbursed (but will be) -$8.00 Leo for blue balloons -$351.22 Chris Hellyer for hundreds of CDs, tea shirts. -$56.00 Mahesh DeSilva more CDs **$81.66** Loss at the moment. I understand however that some CLUG members owe us for tea shirts. ( Please confirm who you are to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) I am also in the process of selling a few more distros to people we couldnt supply to on Saturday. Also we have five tea shirts left @$10 ea. So if you want one of these souvenirs then please bring $10 to the next meeting. (and Chris the shirts please) Stock unsold/held: 80 floppy disks (boxes if 25) (These can be sold to raise some funds) ream of paper (Can be sold to raise some funds) 40 paper cups 5 tea shirts (new entry) 80 blue balloons approx' Nick Elder ___ Installfest mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxnut.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/installfest ---
Songs of praise
To all that helped at the installfest, I just want to say that in between serving punters with disks and getting them tables and an installer to help them my observations were all very possitive on Saturday . The installers did a brilliant job! The burners also were also rushed off of their feet, and rose to the occation! And we all got through a public onslaught with no bad incidents. Every one showed a professional attitude. And worked very well under presure. Well done to all. I was very proud to be a member of our LUG! Granted we can learn by this our first installfest. And the odd person went home with out linux on their machine. But we tried to get it on everyones machine. I spoke to one old Gent that we couldnt get linux on his boxem. He was smiling ear to ear because the installer gave him his best shot., and spent alot of time with him. Giving him advise on how to get his boxem up to scratch and explaining things about linux, a phenominal operating system. Infact I didnt see anyone leave with any sign of dissapointment on their faces. WELL DONE ALL, and we can do this even better next time. (after a well earned rest) cheers, Nick Elder P.S It was quite a site being able to look around the room and be able to see nearly every machine flashing away installing LINUX!
Re: Installfest post mortem
Hi again, The Amature radio club rooms has alot going for it. Large, phone, teamaking facilities, adjacent rooms (for burning maybe), own car parking. On the other side of town from the uni. The only possible downer is that it is tucked away off retreat rd in one of the Avon loops. But then room 101 wasnt that easly to find either but that worked out! My dad is the caretaker for the rooms, so we can have a look through anytime. Nick E On Monday 22 July 2002 1:20 pm, Zane Gilmore wrote: On Mon, 2002-07-22 at 12:46, Nick Rout wrote: Maybe if we try to match up installers to installees before the day. Now we have some idea of space requirements etc we can also plan here too. I have been racking my brains for a room on campus bigger than the ones we had and able to accomodate us. Anybody got any ideas? Not sure that we need to be on campus, although the net connection was great. Something like a church hall? may have to make do with a dialup connection though? Or if someone has a wireless account? The advantage there would be that everything is in the one room. What about the place in Manchester Street behind the MED where we had the meeting at which we heard about Roxen. They had facilities for connecting to the net there? Didn't they want to charge quite a lot? (i could be wrong here) The middle of town could be good. Or the UCSA Ballroom? (Free for clubs? some of you uni students could from a linux club and affiliate to the UCSA??) They have connections to the university network too. Unfortunately I am not a student. might ask around some of the executive and management people there tho. What about the Polytech? Is there anyone on the list from the Polytech? Are they likely to want to have a go at hosting an Installfest? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installfest post mortem
On Monday 22 July 2002 2:13 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Nick Elder CLUG wrote: Hi again, The Amature radio club rooms has alot going for it. Large, phone, teamaking facilities, adjacent rooms (for burning maybe), own car parking. On the other side of town from the uni. The only possible downer is that it is tucked away off retreat rd in one of the Avon loops. But then room 101 wasnt that easly to find either but that worked out! My dad is the caretaker for the rooms, so we can have a look through anytime. That is an excellent idea. Is it possible for us to have our meetings there too? There is every possibility of having our nightly meetings there as well! I will find out the prices. The amature radio club is dwindling and the rooms are hardly ever used. So we can easily get it. It is a purpose built facility and is funded in part by the civil defence people. Whom have a four wheel drive locked up in a garage there. It is quite a bit bigger than the Sydenham hall. Actually we are going to be in deep water if half of the installfest newbys go to our next meeting in Sydenham as well as our regulars. We wont get everyone in to the hall ! More food for thought I think! NE
Installfest installers
The install fest is still scheduled for tommorow. (see www.linuxnut.co.nz). There could be up to 80 installs to be made! ! There are vacancies for confident installers. If you feel you can help, please turn up tommorow and make your self known to one of the ornanizers at the fest.
We are in the News
Hi, Just wanted to say it was cool to see the installfest mentioned on the connected page of this mornings chch press. ( I had nothing to do with it) We had a head line half way down the page, that was very noticeable. The venue, time and web site were all clearly stated. It will be interesting if Chris notices an increase in traffic to the installfest site today. Nick Elder
CLUG Meeting Notes 26th June 2002
Contents: Brief meeting report Door takings balance URLs mentioned during the meeting Meeting was opened by Chris Hellyar with approximately 35 present. Venue being the Cashmere Club General Business: The intallfest (9am to 5pm of Saturday 20th, Room 101 of the Maths and Computer Science Building) was discussed with various ideas and questions being raised. The general consensus was that the organization so far was on schedule. (Several points were raised that I made note of: One being the need to bring along our own heating for the room being used at the uni'. Also that modems will be of little use for internet connection updates, as this will be done over a network. (ie network cards will be needid). The need of a 'hand out sheet' that included email addresses of CLUG members willing to give after install support.) Break for refreshments Nick Rout gave his presentation on Midnight Commander and helped answer general questions on LINUX. Meeting closed at 10pm. CLUG thanks all those of whom bought along equipment and contributed to the meeting Door takings: $124.50 balance carried over from the last meeting (29th April 2002) $+35.40 collected at this meeting = $159.90 Balance = (There was no hall hire or supper expenses this meeting) -- -- The following web sites were mentioned at the meeting: Installfest 2002 address: www.linuxnut.co.nz http://www.linuxjournal.com http://www.linuxgazette.com http://www.linuxfocus.org http://www.linuxformat.com http://www.gordongotch.co.nz/index.asp?menu=magazinesearch (not mentioned)
Re: Next CLUG meeting
This morning I have spoken to the bookings officer for the Sydenham hall and gone back through my correspondence with her. It appears that I was in error with the dates. My appologies to everyone for last night. Sorry for the inconvenience. We won't be charged for the hall this month as the account will be carried over to the August meeting. 29th August ( I have double checked that this is the correct date) Nick Elder On Thursday 27 June 2002 9:20 am, you wrote: And a big thanks to the Cashmere Club for putting us up at such short notice... -Original Message- From: Andrew J Sands Good meeting last night. Big round of applause in finding a venue to relocate to. ## The contents of this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author, and do not necessarily represent the official position of the Selwyn District Council ##
Re: CLUG meetings
I found the labels and put them in to the car to bring along tonight. (along with a felt pen). However Roberts idea of people introducing themselves when addressing the rest ot the meeting is a good idea as well I think. Nick E On Tuesday 25 June 2002 9:42 pm, Zane Gilmore wrote: In the past Nick had some Hello my name is labels. I think they are a good idea for just what you're talking about. On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:11, Fisher Family wrote: I like to put names with faces when I have the opportunity. At the last CLUG meeting I was the only person who admitted who he was. How about each speaker stating their name for the others who do not know them? Robert
Re: Next CLUG meeting 26th June
Andrew and all, The meeting is still on for tommorow night. Chris Hellyer is chairman/MC. There will be general business and no doubt some planning about the up comeing install-fest. Nick Rout is going to talk on MC (midnight commander). Bye the way. I recently mistakingly mentioned the wrong date for the August meeting in this list. The correct date for the August meeting is: Thursday 29th August. See you tommorow night, regards, Nick Elder Map etc at: http://christchurch.lug.net.nz/ On Tuesday 25 June 2002 12:14 pm, Andrew J Sands wrote: Sorry for the slightly off-topic post Is it just me or is the list rather quiet? Being only a day away from another meeting! Oh well maybe its just me. later, Andrew :~ -Original Message- :~ From: Nick Elder CLUG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] :~ Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2002 17:21 :~ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :~ Subject: Next CLUG meeting 26th June :~ :~ :~ :~ Hi, :~Just thought I would post a reminder that our next meeting :~ is in seven days :~ time being on: Wednesday the 26th of June. At 7.30pm, Sydenham : commnunity ~ centre, 23 Hutcheson st. :~ :~ General Bussiness (some talk about the installfest no doubt) :~ Talk on Midnight commander :~ All welcome, gold coin entry. :~ :~ cheers, :~ Nick Elder :~
Next CLUG meeting 26th June
Hi, Just thought I would post a reminder that our next meeting is in seven days time being on: Wednesday the 26th of June. At 7.30pm, Sydenham commnunity centre, 23 Hutcheson st. General Bussiness (some talk about the installfest no doubt) Talk on Midnight commander All welcome, gold coin entry. cheers, Nick Elder
Re: Trapped Mouse
I am wondering if running one of the X config tools such as xf86config and resetting up the mouse as part of that would sort out your problem. But I am certainly no expert on such matters, but thats my 2cents worth anyway. regards, Nick Elder On Wednesday 12 June 2002 1:50 pm, Carl Cerecke wrote: stringer wrote: The point is that it still works ok under windows, so the plug isn't the problem. ALSO the buttons work fine under Linux, its just that the pointer won't move across the screen in either direction. That's to say that the pointer 'flinches' as expected when I left click, and the screen menu appears when I right click. Never had the problem before. Oh, I should have mentioned: Red Hat 6.2, two button serial mouse You may be using the incorrect mouse driver. My 3 button serial mouse uses the MouseSystems driver. If I select an incorrect driver on install it goes haywire when I move the mouse, or doesn't work at all. Haven't ever come across buttons working but no movement though. Cheers,
Re: LUG-PUB
Zane, Only three people replied to me saying they were interested. I emailed back to them and sugested that we shelve it due to lack of interest. regards, Nick E On Tuesday 28 May 2002 4:33 pm, Zane Gilmore wrote: Have I missed something? From what I can see there doesn't appear to be a LUG-PUB gathering arranged for tonite. It looks as though we have either let it lapsed or we could postpone it till later in the week. On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 17:44, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: Hi fellow CLUG members, I have noted down, this Tuesday the 28th as the possible social CLUG meeting in a Pub somewhere. The last meeting was at the Valley Inn and although there was a disappointing number attending. Nick Rout, Zane Gilmore and I had a pleasant evening sipping beer in the lounge bar and talking about linux (Nerdy I know!). I might add the venue wasn't noisy or smoky! (Well as we were making the most noise I guess we couldn't hear any other noise!) Any way I propose we meet in a pub that is more central this time. All those intending to be there on Tuesday please let me know at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will keep a rough count of how many are going so I can report back to list. Any suggestions on a pub with a quiet lounge bar that is reasonably central would be welcomed. cheers, and cheers, Nick hick Elder
xwc correction
Correction xwc= X WinCommander http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=enq=X+wincommander
Re: Meeting Wednesday 26th June-Hall
Nick, Theres one way to find out! :-) NE On Saturday 25 May 2002 6:20 pm, Nick Rout wrote: I would do mc, but i'm sure there are people who know more about it than me. :-)
LUG-PUB
Hi fellow CLUG members, I have noted down, this Tuesday the 28th as the possible social CLUG meeting in a Pub somewhere. The last meeting was at the Valley Inn and although there was a disappointing number attending. Nick Rout, Zane Gilmore and I had a pleasant evening sipping beer in the lounge bar and talking about linux (Nerdy I know!). I might add the venue wasn't noisy or smoky! (Well as we were making the most noise I guess we couldn't hear any other noise!) Any way I propose we meet in a pub that is more central this time. All those intending to be there on Tuesday please let me know at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will keep a rough count of how many are going so I can report back to list. Any suggestions on a pub with a quiet lounge bar that is reasonably central would be welcomed. cheers, and cheers, Nick hick Elder
Meeting Wednesday 26th June-Hall
Hi again, With regard to the next meeting in the hall. There seems to be a concensus that we should try and have a more 'newby' oriented meeting next time. (Wednesday 26th June ) Two linux programs have been recommended to newbies at our meetings. One being xwc (x wing commander I think it is) (do a search for xwc at rpmfind.net for details) and the other is mc (midnight commander). I am wondering if anyone in our group would be prepared to do a talk on either of these programs at our next meeting? regards from a Newby turning gray, Nick Elder
CLUG Install Fest
CLUG, At the meeting a note book was handed around collecting names and addresses of those interested in organizing and helping with an install fest this year. Below is the list so far. It is open to anyone on the CLUG mailing list who want to contribute to this project. If you wish to be included please email me at my primary address (so I don't miss seeing it) at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will make sure you are kept included in this lists. (No Name) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mahesh De Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Hellyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Walter Logeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
Meeting reminder
Just a reminder of the meeting tomorrow night (Monday 29th of April). In case you may have forgotten or are new to the CLUG list. Main part of the evening: Talk and demo on Networking-Chris Hellyar. cheers, Nick E All meetings are held at 7:30 PM in the Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Sydenham. A gold coin donation is asked for at each meeting to cover costs.
Re: kde failure(and gnome)
Hi, I find myself in gnome sawfish about 99% of the time these days. But twice now including today (just now in fact) it has screwed up. (seems to be when I 'halt' out of gnome without closing all the open applications). Luckily I made a directory called gnome-backup in my home directory a while back and chucked a copy of every directory in my home directory that started with .gnome-'whatever', and .gconf, .gconfd, and .gnome_private in it. I just had to copy all the files in this directory back in to my home directory and hey presto my desktop is restored. I have actually backed up kde like this also and had to use it when kde has let me down in the past! BTW my restored gnome desktop can be viewed at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~nicke/linux/desktop/screenshot.jpg Nick E On Friday 26 April 2002 3:25 pm, Julian Carver wrote: Michael, I had something very similar just recently when I tried to upgrade to kde3. I use gnome, but wanted to have a look at what kde3 was like. I'm using Mandrake 8.1 Unwisely I did a nodeps install because I couldn't be bothered dealing with the depedencies. I just installed everything from the kde3 ftp directory. I have now learned my lesson about nodeps... Firstly kde3 wouldn't start properly, and secondly it munted gnome. Gnome would start, but was very slow in starting, and sawfish wouldn't start at all. I managed to resolve this by getting rid of all the kde3 and associated new rpms, moving my .gnome and .sawfish user directories, and logging in again. This fixed everything up. Not very scientific, but it worked. Not sure if this helps, but maybe a similar cause? Julian I run Redhat 7.2. Whenever I login (run level 3) and startx, gnome appears to load up but I end up with a blank blue screen without any icons etc - absolutely nothing. I can crash back into level 3 without a problem using the keyboard. I really need to know what's failing, I got an error message the very first time it happened but like the pro I am I ignored it and now I don't get it anymore. Where do I find the log that the errors are sent to? This fault ocurred out of the blue - there was no reason, like cold reboot, to blame. Basically I want to resurrect the machine without having to reinstall Redhat all over again. Regards, Michael.
Re: ADSL modem and IPCOP-Volker
Volker, Thanks for your input. All though I hope you haven't started a debate again that will fill everyones mail box, as we all went over the Telstra verses Telecom issue here in list a few weeks ago. Actually I contacted TelstraClear and because the front of my works premises is over 6metres from the foot path and the street has underground wiring. And because there is a tarsealed carpark between the building and the footpath they are not very interested in us as cable customers. The criteria we would have to meet is for us to spend over $300 per month with them. If we changed our complete telephone system over to them then we would actually meet this criteria. However our business is not prepared to commit to a different communications company at this time. cheers and regards, Nick E On Saturday 20 April 2002 6:38 pm, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Sat 20 Apr 2002 17:44:21 NZST +1200, Nick Elder CLUG wrote: I am looking hard at that very modem-router (Dynalink RTA 020) for jetstart for my work, Personally, I can not overstress the advice to go with Telstra/Saturn if at all possible. The hassle is absolutely zero. Silch. As in, nothing. Pick a spare NIC in any of your PCs, ifconfig it with your personal global static IP given to you by Telstra/Saturn/Clear/Whatevertoday and you're off. Your system config tool does this for you. You wouldn't have had to deal with this kind of rubbish, nor setup anything else like dhcp. This all for the price of at most, less last time I looked, a jetstart connection. Plus you don't aid Telecom in ripping off your ISP, and do something positive for competition in the ISP market. (And if you personally feel so inclined, you can, after having listened to Telecom telling you where to go for many a year, now return the favour.) though the list or at least carbon copied to me as well please. As I am eager to hear any advise anyone may have on this subject. See above :) Volker Shaun, I am looking hard at that very modem-router (Dynalink RTA 020) for jetstart for my work, I havent purchased it yet though. And figured that I would try and use it though a dedicated firewall such as smoothwall or IPCOP, like you. My point here is that I hope any advise people have, can be directed back though the list or at least carbon copied to me as well please. As I am eager to hear any advise anyone may have on this subject. cheers, Nick Elder On Saturday 20 April 2002 1:42 pm, Shaun wrote: I have had an IPCOP box active as a firewall for my dial up connection for a few weeks now but have just purchased a Dynalink RTA 020 and subscribed to Jetstart and cannot figure out how to configure IPCOP and the RTA 020 to allow me to use them together. The RTA 020 works fine with its default settings when connected directly to the hub but when trying to go out via the IPCOP machine I cannot seem to get it to work. Any light thrown on this would be appreciated. ___ Subject: RE: Adsl modems From: Craig Falconer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 09:21:38 +1300 Dynalink RTA 020 is a beauty wee router, and not a lot more expensive than a modem. A 3com dual link is good, but they haven't been made for 6+ months now. Alcatel ST Home is quite cheap, and does PPTP to the firewall linux box who is then responsible for NAT. -- From: Simon Hansman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 4 March 2002 07:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Adsl modems Hi all, I'm about to get JetStart and was wondering on peoples experience with adsl modems. What I want to do is run Smoothwall or IPCop on an old P133, then have two networks in it, one to an 8 Port 10/100mbps switching hub and the other to an external adsl modem (I was thinking of getting an Asus AAM-6000EV). Any suggestions? I see you can get pci adsl modems...what's the support for these like under linux? Anything else I should be thinking about? Cheers Simon
Re: ADSL modem and IPCOP
On Saturday 20 April 2002 11:11 pm, Shaun wrote: Thanks for the swift response Simon. After getting the green and red interfaces on different subnets I can now ping the router and open up its web interface through the ipcop box. A huge step forward but... Enabling DHCP on the router and setting the red interface to DHCP gives me a connected (time...) in the Home AW but I can not ping anything outside the lan. At no time has the Data light come on to indicate that traffic is travelling out or in. Shaun Strangely I was thinking about this in the night. (Bit more interesting than trying to count sheep!) Does the cable between the modem/router and your firewall box need to be a cross over one? Maybe someone can answer this for us. Nick E In the Control Panel for the router the PPPoA connection info shows absolutely nothing. When connected without going through ipcop box there was a line here showing the status of the connection - establishing/connected etc Perhaps 1/2 a nights sleep will help. Any other thoughts will be appreciated. Shaun On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:55:30 +1200, you wrote: Hi, Yeah I had a similar problem...I got it working in the end, although my hard drive on the ipcop machine has just died :(. Anyway there were a couple of things I changed to make it work. First you need to make sure your green and red interfaces are on different subnets. I think the default ip address for the router is usually 192.168.0.1, so you could make your internal network 192.168.1.x. Secondly, I fiddled around the the dhcp settings on my router (an asus one), and set the time for one session down to an hour, I don't know why this was an issue but it seemed to work after this. Finally, when configuring ipcop (login as setup), the red interface (the one connected to the modem) should be using DHCP and you'll need to give it a name (eg, ipcop). Anyway hope that helps, later Simon On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:42, Shaun wrote: I have had an IPCOP box active as a firewall for my dial up connection for a few weeks now but have just purchased a Dynalink RTA 020 and subscribed to Jetstart and cannot figure out how to configure IPCOP and the RTA 020 to allow me to use them together. The RTA 020 works fine with its default settings when connected directly to the hub but when trying to go out via the IPCOP machine I cannot seem to get it to work. Any light thrown on this would be appreciated. ___ Subject: RE: Adsl modems From: Craig Falconer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 09:21:38 +1300 Dynalink RTA 020 is a beauty wee router, and not a lot more expensive than a modem. A 3com dual link is good, but they haven't been made for 6+ months now. Alcatel ST Home is quite cheap, and does PPTP to the firewall linux box who is then responsible for NAT. -- From:Simon Hansman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:Monday, 4 March 2002 07:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Adsl modems Hi all, I'm about to get JetStart and was wondering on peoples experience with adsl modems. What I want to do is run Smoothwall or IPCop on an old P133, then have two networks in it, one to an 8 Port 10/100mbps switching hub and the other to an external adsl modem (I was thinking of getting an Asus AAM-6000EV). Any suggestions? I see you can get pci adsl modems...what's the support for these like under linux? Anything else I should be thinking about? Cheers Simon
Re: back in two months
Thanks Volker, I will take a note of that. Lucky the time is ahead to make up for the out of date mistake! I never have been able to get the time right on that boxem! Despite many attempts. I am over due to upgrade the version soon that will fix it when I reinstall, hopfully. Nick E On Friday 12 April 2002 5:33 pm, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I just remembered I need to unsubscribe :) Since the big hard drive crash I've lost the address to do this; could someone in the know http://volker.orcon.net.nz/linux/lists-nz.html (Nick, your addresses are technically speaking out of date.) Volker
CLUG Install fest Sydenham community hall June/July??
Dear CLUG Last meeting it was decided that we should have an install fest this year. As you can see the following Saturday's and Sundays are still available for the hall. (cost $30 a day) Discussion on the fest is invited in list and at the pub this Monday night. Nick Elder On Saturday 23 March 2002 10:46 pm, : Nick The hall is available June 29th all day June 30th until 6pm July 27th all day July 28th until 6pm Janet
CLUG social chin wag-Mon 25th March 2002-see you there!
Dear CLUG, The social meeting at the Valley Inn is still ON, for monday night. 7:30pm (cnr of Marsden and Flavell streets, Heathcote. (ph 3841124)) cheers, Nick E === Dear CLUG, We have Monday the 25th of March (next Monday) marked down as the date for our first pub social for the year. We had the Heathcote Hotel suggested at the last meeting as the possible venue. I presume this is the Valley Inn. If we all meet there at say 7:30 we could always move on to say the Ferrymead perhaps, if the valley in doesnt work out? Nick Elder Sydenham community centre meetings: Thu 28th February 2002 Mon 29th April Wed 26th June Thu 29th August Wed 2nd October Thur 5th December ---NOW WED THE 4TH DECEMBER! As we thought we would have a social meeting in a public house some where in between the hall meetings I propose the following dates: Mon 25th March Tue 28th May Wed 31st July Thu 12th Sepember Fri 1st November ---
CLUG Meeting Report 28th February 2002
-CLUG Meeting Report 28th February 2002 +Minutes (unofficial) of the meeting +Door takings balance Meeting started at 7:30 Nick Elder MC for the evening. Approximately 40+ present. Apologies: Nick Rout, Dave Lane General business: The offer for CLUG to use the facilities offered to us by the the Aoteroa Multimedia centre was discussed and the majority consensus was that we remain using Sydenham Community Centre. Install Fest. It was agreed that we should have an install fest this year. Most likely three to four months from now, so as to make enough time for organization and more importantly advertising. ie inBusiness IT magazine, Buy sell Exchange, Newspaper. The offer to the club using a school (I am sorry I didn't note which school) for a future demonstrations was made by one of our members. The possibility of using Sydenham Community Hall one weekend day was suggested The issue of the risk of wrecking someones data while doing an install on their computer was raised. It was generally agreed that we should put some kind of disclaimer on the our web site nearer the event. Along with how to prepare a machine for a linux install. Be it defraging a windows drive or adding another HDD. The option of having bootable CD distros that run linux off of the CD for demonstration was also suggested. A hands up of those likely to attend next months social meeting at a hotel was asked for. Approximately 10 people at the meeting thought they would most likely go along. Suggestions for a likely venue was asked for. One suggestion was submitted: Heathcote Hotel (so lets go there!) (Did you mean the Valley Inn Brian?) The idea of having a help phone list on the web site for newbies was suggested. With the idea of suitable times to phone those on the list, was suggested. (topic for further discussion in CLUG mail list no doubt!) There was no further general bussiness. supper break 8:20PM 9:00PM Carl Cerecke then kicked of the Hints and Tips talk part of the evening. With a description on how X works. And how to use one machine to display X and a window manager ,while using another to run linux and its programs. Carl continued to address the meeting while others in the meeting asked and answered various questions. meeting ended 10:20PM CLUG thank those that bought equipment, and/or donated time to the meeting. Door takings $56.90 balance left from last meeting (Dec 6th 2001) +50.60 collected at this meeting - 1.65 supper expenses -15.00 hall hire == $90.85 Balance == === === .
Peanut linux 9.2 Discs available
Hi, Just thought I would let the group know that I have the latest peanut linux 'small' iso downloaded and can burn anyone a disc if they want to try it. The so called small iso unzips to the hard drive to about 350 megabytes. Has KDE2 and E v16.5, X Windows 4.2.0, Kernel 2.5.0 with USB support (Sawfish should install and use Es librarys but I haven't tried it yet) . It now comes with ReiserFS and Ext3 file systems option. For full details see http://www.ibiblio.org/peanut/ I have installed this version and it is interesting to play around with a different setup system. You just type: 'setup' in console mode which then opens a menu for x86config, sndconfig, etc, etc. BTW I recommend the two floppy boot discs that can be made of of the install CD or downloaded directly from the peanut site. Documentation is there how to make them using DOS or linux. With these two discs one can boot in to any distro you may have on your HDD. Great if you have removed lilo or lost your normal bootup utility. On these two discs you can run fdisk and Cfdisk, mkdosfs and mke2fs, and most likely there are others utilities that I haven't found yet. If anyone is interested get back to me off list before the next meeting so I can bring a disc along for you. Or you could pick one up from my work in Sydenham, but let me know you want one first. ($5 ) Nick Elder
Promise of things to come!
Just thought this was interesting, and wanted to share it. http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/print_news.cfm?NewsID=1970 http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/display_news.cfm?NewsID=1926 Nick Elder
Re: CLUG Meeting 28th February-Topic and speaker required
CLUG, OK lets just see if there are any requests for a certain topic first. Anyone have any requests for a topic? I personally was wondering about having a linux boxem on hand and then have a question and answers session? Having both the questions asked and answered from anyone that volunteers that question or answer from the 'floor' ? (hopefully someone has the answer). Any comments are welcomed on this idea ! Nick Elder On Saturday 02 February 2002 8:17 am, nickelz wrote: CLUG, With our next hall meeting just four weeks away I think we should now organize a topic and speaker for it. Any topic requests? Any volunteers to do a talk? Nick Elder Hall is booked for: Thu 28th February 2002 Mon 29th April Wed 26th June Thu 29th August Wed 2nd October Wed 4th December
