Re: LiveCD on a flash drive - make it updatable?
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, you wrote: Hello everyone, I've got a 1GB flash drive on which I have placed the Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 cd and made bootable (using the windows program 'UltraISO' which let me copy an iso directly to the flash drive and made it work). This flash drive boots fine into Ubuntu desktop just like the cd. However, I'd now like changes I make while booted from this flash drive to be kept on the flash drive. Like when I use it to boot my wife's laptop - so she can't accuse me of meddling with her windows setup ;-) she doesn't like change - anyway, it needs to download 3rd party drivers for the wireless card but these are then lost on reboot. So is browsing history and updates, etc. Does anyone know if it is possible to change some settings, etc to make the livecd flash drive updatable in this way? Or should I really be doing an Ubuntu installation with the flash drive as the target for the installation instead? (would this still let me boot any pc with it?). Thanks for ideas or suggestions. Bryce Stenberg. I suggest you _install_ Ubuntu onto a stick and make it bootable. But one gig is too small. I have done this with Debian on a 4GB stick. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: Hi I need a disk for ubuntu 9.10
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, you wrote: Can anybody help in sparing ubuntu9.10 disk pl. mohan Mohan, If you have no luck you can try Copyleft. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: What would you recommend??
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM, steve st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: I've had a personal request from a client who wants to set up a website for the family - just to let them share photos, etc privately... If it's private, you don't have to worry about security so much (depending on how you enforce the privacy, simplest would be an HTTP auth from the reverse proxy), so you could feel free to install PHP software. Gallery is very good for photo sharing, I think they also handle video these days. Pop a wordpress in front of it, job done. -jim I use webfs on my internal private network. A very simple solution. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: Home finance programs
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tom Munro Glass gen...@tmgcon.com wrote: On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:24:13 Nick Rout wrote: MS Money, Quicken etc Whats the best linux alternative? I know KMyMoney and GnuCash exist, but what do people recommend/use? I've used GnuCash for years and find it excellent. You can open the data file with GnuCash running on Linux or Windows (not simultaneously). It handles multiple bank accounts including in different currencies. If you are conscientious about allocating expenditure to different expense accounts such as food, drink, electricity, rates, etc, it is really good for reviewing where all your cash went at the end of the year. Yes I was afraid of that! Luckily wine and beer will be lumped in with groceries/food :) I run both Copyleft and personal finances using the same bank accounts with the help of GnuCash. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: OT: Voda outage
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, steve wrote: Did anyone else suffer for 5 hours because of this??? I haven't stopped twiching yet (: Steve The same in Dunedin. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: RoR tutorials for *nix systems
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Kerry wrote: Hi I'm keen on taking a look at Ruby on Rails and am after some linux specific real world tutorials ie no hello world type tuts. Most of the tutorials I have come across so far have been for Windows systems and are using gui's. I would much rather learn from the command line so I get more appreciation on what is going on. I have an interest in building web apps so anything along that line would be appreciated. Regards, Kerry Try, (thanks Nevyn) http://www.linuxlinks.com/ article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html Sorry about the split address. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: Pronounce sudo
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Roger Searle wrote: Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Roger Searle ro...@stepahead.org.nz mailto:ro...@stepahead.org.nz wrote: Craig Falconer wrote: Mind you - we normally type these commands, or read them. Very rarely do we say them out loud. Others in the same region: fsck fissik/eff ess check/eff sik gccgee sea sea / ? sshess ess aitch / shhh / shoosh wgetdoubleyou get / wuh-get straceess-strace / strace / street race The one that got me the first time I heard someone say it, and still does, is the folder /etc. I had always imagined it pronounced as eee tea see, and is how it still is in my head. Hearing it as etcetera is just wrong, to my ear! Why, its a common abbreviation and you don't even have to be a nerd to understand it! Only because it was a long time until I heard anyone pronounce it as etcetera, having always thought of it internally as the letters. I have no knowledge of the origins of the folder name. So to borrow Robert's question from this morning, how would people say the folder /etc out loud? et-cet Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: Alpining
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Aidan Gauland wrote: Hello, A while ago--a long while ago, I think--someone on this list shared his excitement over discovering Alpine, because he was a fan of Pine. I have since tried a few times to set up Alpine--because it sounded better than anything else I have used (for me, that is), and I find Thunderbird annoying in many ways--but I have failed to overcome the geekiness of it every time. I have recently started regularly using a Linux shell-server, so I am using the command line for more and more, and I would really like to ditch graphical mail-readers (especially as I always turn HTML off, so there will be no loss there). Could that person, if they still be reading this list, or another Alpine user, help me get acquainted with this mysterious mail reader? Thanks, Aidan I have been using pine/alpine since the pine is not elm days. It all seems very normal to me. How can I help? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: OT Press co hogging cpu usage
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Ryan McCoskrie wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:03:26 Jim Cheetham wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Barry Marchantbarr...@paradise.net.nz wrote: has anyone looked at the press co website today? I am having trouble with it hogging cpu usage, in excess of 95% at times, and being unable to scroll the site because the scrollbar is locked up. Last time i tried over 130 images were d/l. Mouse response when trying to change apps is also appauling. Often caused by poorly behaved flash apps, or sometimes multiple animated gifs. Consider running adblock or something similar ... [pretending to be on the verge of crying] What happend to HTML? It was such a great standard and it died in its prime. Snif-snif ... According to w3c http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/ has 125 errors. It is supposed to be XHTML 1.0 Transitional. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: Linux on USB stick recommendations
On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, I have been down the usb linux stick thing for a while, and some thoughts might help the search for a recommendation. If you can avoid a distro that uses a compressed file system, loading files (or running binaries) of the disk will be much faster.. yes, it means a bigger flash disk. No problem.. 4G disks are getting cheap. Getting a machine with a nvidia/ATI graphics card is quite common - it would be nice if the ATI nvidia drivers were already on the disk. Yes, I know, there will be those who want only open source software on their linux distro disk. However, it fails the simple test from the children. They expect to plug it in, and it works immediately. Everything. (which includes the codecs). True, the standard answer is to download the drivers and install them. But each time I run the usb image, I don't want to have to install the graphics driver.. That is too tedious. So lets avoid the discussion on embedding nvidiaati into the image. From a convenience point of view, all the video drivers, and all the codecs, should be in the image. Remastering should be easy. There are always going to be packages that have to be added/removed. On those three quite reasonable requirements, what is best option? Derek. ... and don't forget to use UUIDs Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: Linux on USB stick recommendations
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Aidan Gauland wrote: Philip Charles wrote: What I am after is likely to run on any $RANDOM computer, offers a browser and capability of connecting to the internet, has a small writable space, and as a bonus is able to use a $RANDOM printer it encounters. Install Debian. No compressed file system. This means that it can be updated and modified as required. Debian is what I have used, should work with other distros as well. Will Debian installed on a USB stick work on any random computer? (Provided that it's the right architecture, of course.) I've wanted what Ross is after for a long time. -Aidan Short answer, yes. I supply such usb sticks. UUIDs need to be used to identify the partitions on the stick. A boot CD is needed for older systems that will not boot from the stick. The Copyleft version has been tested on a wide range of hardware, eeepc up. The way to go. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: Linux on USB stick recommendations
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Ross Drummond wrote: Does the group have any suggestions for what to run on a USB stick as a live Linux system? What I am after is likely to run on any $RANDOM computer, offers a browser and capability of connecting to the internet, has a small writable space, and as a bonus is able to use a $RANDOM printer it encounters. I have a USB stick with System Rescue on it which works well, but it is not designed for desk-top type tasks. Cheers Ross Drummond Install Debian. No compressed file system. This means that it can be updated and modified as required. Debian is what I have used, should work with other distros as well. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 phil...@copyleft.co.nz - personal.i...@copyleft.co.nz - business
Re: CentOS noob
On Friday 10 October 2008, Roy Britten wrote: So, I'm reasonably comfortable in debian-like systems, but am just picking up responsibility for a CentOS server. I'm coming across things like yum, and files are in unexpected places. What would be really useful is some sort of guide to where things are and how to manage them for someone relatively new to the CentOS way of doing things. Any pointers? The closest I've found so far is http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Deployment_Guide/ which has broken links and rather a lot of unnecessary cruft. This is a server, so nothing involving mice or menus please. Thanks, Roy. CentOS is a rebuild of Redhat so you could try RH documentation. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: How to make read only symbolic link?
On Monday 06 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a folder of files that I want to show up in my shared folder for backing up but I only want the files to be read only when viewed from the symbolic link. Is this possible? Make a hard link to the folder, set the permissions of the copied folder to read-only and symlink to it. Symlinks have the permissions of the file they point to. I wonder if this will work? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: How to make read only symbolic link?
On Monday 06 October 2008, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:17:10 +1300 Philip Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 06 October 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a folder of files that I want to show up in my shared folder for backing up but I only want the files to be read only when viewed from the symbolic link. Is this possible? Make a hard link to the folder, set the permissions of the copied folder to read-only and symlink to it. Symlinks have the permissions of the file they point to. I wonder if this will work? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business No. You can only softlink to a directory. ): cp -lpR /dir1 /dir2 I use this for backups against human error. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: GNU/Linux Debian Lenny 5.0 86 and 64 isos
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Robert Fisher wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 7:12:41 am Philip Charles wrote: I have tried the kde one. How did the KDE one go? Only one CD limits the installation. Well the one I downloaded last month (debian-LennyBeta2-i386-kde-CD-1.iso) seemed to hang up at the end of the installation on both VMWare and VirtualBox but the one I downloaded this morning (debian-testing-i386-kde-CD-1.iso) seems to have worked fine in VirtualBox. When I tried the earlier version on a spare hard drive it worked Ok but I had trouble installing nvidia drivers so I shelved that project. Has anyone got a foolproof howto for installing nvidia drivers on Lenny? This may help. Have you setup a network installation which includes non-free? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: GNU/Linux Debian Lenny 5.0 86 and 64 isos
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Robert Fisher wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 8:34:51 pm Philip Charles wrote: When I tried the earlier version on a spare hard drive it worked Ok but I had trouble installing nvidia drivers so I shelved that project. Has anyone got a foolproof howto for installing nvidia drivers on Lenny? This may help. Have you setup a network installation which includes non-free? Do you mean have I added non-free to my repositories? - I am not sure but when I get time I can refit the HD and try again. see 'man sources.list' So are you saying that with non-free added I should be able to add the nvidia package? and then what? I am not familiar with the Ubuntu archive, but I would expect that you could download and install a suitable nvidia package. Phil. Rob -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: GNU/Linux Debian Lenny 5.0 86 and 64 isos
On Tuesday 16 September 2008, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need for Lenny 5.0? http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/i so-cd/ Note that Lenny / Debian-5.0 is the 'Testing' release. i.e. take great care about backing up. imho you shoulod wait for the October release of Ubuntu. How many CD's? One + your internet connection. Debian Lenny is due to be released in the next 2-3 weeks and is very stable. I am advising people to install 5.0 and forget 4.0r4a. The Official Snapshot can be downloaded here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd It took about 30 min to download the required packages from ftp.nz.debian.org during a network installation when I was testing my custom CD set. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: GNU/Linux Debian Lenny 5.0 86 and 64 isos
On Wednesday 17 September 2008, Robert Fisher wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:00:15 pm Philip Charles wrote: The Official Snapshot can be downloaded here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd What are the 31 iso's? I have tried the kde one. How did the KDE one go? Only one CD limits the installation. 31 CDs of software. I am not particularly happy with the Official CD set. It should be tweeked before the final release. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: [GNUz] RMS Talk - Thanks Rik and co... where to now?
On Sunday 17 August 2008, Jim Cheetham wrote: Well, in NZ we have a non-English Official Language; Maori. The two meanings of Free are, to my admittedly low level of knowledge, separable into separate words/phrases. gratis/Free of Charge is something like kore utu (utu is a deeply meaningful word for cost, price, penalty) libre/Free from Restraints might be more like wātea I think? Try http://www.learningmedia.co.nz/ngata/ Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: calling DunLUG - RMS tour
On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Rik Tindall wrote: Nick Rout wrote: Why not post to DunLUG? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Rik Tindall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The call goes out to our subscribers in Dunedin: There is an opportunity for you to have a visit and talk from Richard Stallman next month. We're organising an event locally and could fly RMS down to you on Tuesday 19 August, if that fits your planning schedule ok. I'm pretty sure they have a mailing list and that they are already involved in the RMS tour, check with Simon in Auckland. Simon asked me to make contact (pp RMS). I haven't heard of any activity there about it yet. Aha: http://dunedin.linux.net.nz/MailingList - anyone already subscribed, willing to fwd? It was forwarded to dunlug a couple of hours ago. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: NZ Debian repository down?
On Monday 07 July 2008, Aidan Gauland wrote: Hello, I'm been using the ftp.nz.debian.org repository mirror for a while now, and yesterday I couldn't get any packages from there. I get this error when trying to get a package (jlint, in this case)... W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/pool/main/j/jlint/jlint_3.0-4.1_i386.deb Could not connect passive socket. ...I've never seen that one before, and I haven't made any changes to my sources.list file recently. The really odd thing is that I can access the site through my web browser, using http, and nmap reports that port 21 is open (which is used for ftp). Is anyone on this list using this mirror successfully? Thanks, Aidan ftp access is not working, http is. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: slow data rates for usb flash drive
On Tuesday 24 June 2008, Nick Rout wrote: Further to that it is transferring to my other computer at 13MB/s, whereas the first one went at only 2.5MB/s. Is the difference that you can read from flash disk 6 times faster than you can write to it? (thats a guess, not a statement of fact). I have two types of USB stick here one loads at 2.4MB/sec, the other at 6MB/sec. Reading is about 24-26MB/sec Any comfort? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: Ubuntu Hardy Heron RC1
On Thursday 24 April 2008, Phill Coxon wrote: The official Ubuntu home page has a press release talking about 8.04 being released: LONDON, April 21, 2008 – Canonical Ltd. announced the upcoming availability of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition for free download on Thursday 24 April. In related news, Canonical also announced the simultaneous release of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server Edition. So I think the Coming Soon refers to the final 24 hours and it will be officially released tomorrow on the 24th (US time). I'm running the release candidate and the daily updates have tapered off - only 2 packages this morning - so gut feeling suggests they have the final release ready or very close to it. There are images dated 23 April superseeding the rc versions on Ubuntu's servers. I have six of them. Now waiting for the official md5sums. Hope to get the DVDs in a few days. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: Use of this list for commercial purposes?
On Sunday 23 March 2008, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:46:26 +1300 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings to CLUGgers, I am somewhat concerned that threads are appearing which are overtly commercial. I see the use of this list as a virtual 'Tenderer's Gazette' as being 'overtly commercial', because in the past we have had virtual lynchings as a response to commercial posts. Whilst such postings are very useful to some folk, and I include myself, I do appreciate that for others they are doubtless totally O.T. and an unwanted intrusion. Therefore I think we should to try to establish a consensus as to what commercial posts are within an Acceptable Use Policy. Also I'd be glad of advice from the list administrator as to what the University of Canterbury sees as its AUP for this list? If folks would like to mail me off-list that's acceptable too. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell If the University's happy, just prefix then COM: ??? My $0.02, IMO there is a difference between buying and selling goods and services. Buying OK, selling not. eg (a) I have CDs for sale - not acceptable. (b) Where can I buy CDs, please reply off list - acceptable. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: The St Albans box and USB2
On Monday 25 February 2008, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On 2/25/08, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, February 25, 2008 2:47 pm, Raffael wrote: Andrew Errington wrote: Why not have the box boot up with a randomly-chosen distro from the archive it is holding? :) Andrew (No, really, I'm just kidding. It's not a challenge.) I like that idea! Really :D Whilst I'm sure setting up such a system would doubtless be a superb way of exercising young brains, if we were to implement such a scheme, mine would very rapidly lose its grip on reality. I'm so relieved to see the jest indicators. By the way, today I was more successful in downloading some distros to my usb HD. I get up to 4.5 MB/s. Good! Here some comments: - first of all: thank you for running the Linux archive and the usb2card Thanks. We would be grateful if you could mention that we are active in the distro. reproduction business. Chris S is largely to blame^h^h^h^h^h thank. Good on you Chris. Well it seemed a good idea once that it was pointed out that there was no canonical source of Linux in Christchurch. Please note that Wesley is an active co-conspirator. He should be blamed^h^h^h^h^h^h thanked too. [ ... wiki matters ... ] - In these instructions it says that you charge $5 for a CD and $7.50 for a dvd. I recommend to change that to a donation + costs price for a medium, in case they don't bring their own. I believe its a charge by St Albans Community Centre, not by CLUG. It is outside our control. Not entirely. We can probably rejig the charge somewhat. It does seem a little steep, but I have no problem with them selling blank media to prop up their undoubtedly tight finances.. The solution is to buy your own. I believe that both St Albans Community Centre, and CLUG have a moral right to make a small charge to run a Linux distribution reproduction service. There are a number of overheads which have to be covered the obvious one being the electricity needed to run the server. The St Albans Community Centre charges the general public a base rate of $2 per hour for access to a machine, and $1 for a CD. That means that there is a base charge of $3 for a Linux Distro. on CD. This is only very slightly more expensive than getting the data via http or ftp using a retail broadband provider, and it's very approximately half the cost of a bitttorrent download. For DVD volumes it's considerably cheaper than using your ISP. I thought that it would be fair to have a $2 component for CLUG which results in the $5 charge. If the membership really thinks there is an error in my rough and ready reasoning to come to a price please let me know. I would consider $5.00 per CD rock bottom and $7.50 for a DVD too low. You were lucky with the USB card, but what happens when the PSU looses its magic smoke or the HDD goes into reverse? In my experience your pricing is dependent on a continuing input of time and equipment from your members. If this input can be maintained, great. The more people can access and install Linux at minimal cost and risk the better. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: Joys of not quite monolithic kernels...
On Wednesday 13 February 2008, Delio Brignoli wrote: On 13/02/2008, at 9:14 AM, John Carter wrote: What ever the merits of the grand debate about Micro vs Monolithic Kernels are I am not trying to be pedantic here, or maybe I am ;-) but... The difference between micro-kernels and monolithic kernels is not about having loadable modules. Informally the difference is that 'modules' access other services offered by other modules in the OS using a message passing mechanism. In linux once a module is loaded it can directly call any kernel API it likes, directly. As far as the Hurd is concerned modules are not used. Drivers are loaded into user-space where they can be loaded, unloaded and modified as needed. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: The Linux/Unix Distro Archive is up and running.
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 13:37, you wrote: Greets folks. Please find attached the file listing of the Linux/Unix archive. The archive is now ready for customers. I would be very grateful if some kind soul could lend us a Knoppix DVD. I lent it to somebody and it has never been returned. If you have no luck, you know who to ask. Phil -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: 64bit linux on Ubuntu 7.10
On Sunday 18 November 2007 12:22, Christopher Sawtell wrote: OTOH IMHO, It's nearly always disk and filesystem speed which is the bottle-neck for day to day computing, thus - unless you are runnimg heavy-duty number-crunching processes, such as rendering picture frames - in practice there is very little to be gained from doing the 64-bit thing. It's just a marketing ploy. The big advantage of 64 bit is that it can address lots and lots of memory. 32 bit has something like a 4Gb limit. I went from 32 to 64 bit on this machine and found that I had lost apps like dosemu, so after a few months I moved back to 32 bit. I did not notice any change in speed. On 11/18/07, Ross Drummond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:13, Phill Coxon wrote: In other words - is there any point in my doing an apt-on-cd backup of all the updates I've installed to Ubuntu 7.10, or will every package have to be downloaded again as a 64bit version anyway? Thanks. This is not an exact answer to your question. I recently set up a 64bit computer with Gentoo. Gentoo is source based distribution which downloads the source code and compiles the applications on the computer they are going to be used. This allows applications to customised and optimised according to your wishes. I compiled my applications to run on 64 bit architecture setting one of the compiler flags to; -march=x86-64 Not one of the GPL applications failed to compile. Some third party applications which supply the executable rather than the source code require 32bit emulation to run. Down at the silicon level computing is about manipulating numbers. So anything which allows these numbers to be processed in 64 as opposed to 32 bit chunks has to be a good thing. My advice is go 64 bit as much as possible. Cheers Ross Drummond -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: Linux for OOLLLLLDD PCs
On Friday 12 October 2007 12:41, Aidan Gauland wrote: Greetings, I have a very very very old PC--I'm serious, this thing only has about 64 MB of RAM, and a 100 MHz Pentium CPU, and a BIOS that can only boot from a hard drive or a floppy drive--which I have tried to get Damn Small Linux running on, but it fails to boot the live CD, and I think this is because it fails silently when setting up the RAM disk which makes trouble later when it tries to read/write files in the RAM disk. In short: I think it is built to run with more memory than this computer has. Of course I already have a working Linux box with more power than this antiquated pile of silicon, but I thought I might have some fun, and maybe even show it off at the next software freedom day. So, should I try an older version of DSL? Or am I using the wrong distro for the job? If you want to use an old distro I have them in my archives. E.g. debian 1.3.1, Red Hat 6 etc. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Tesseract, was CAD software
On Tuesday 25 September 2007 22:55, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Free, donated by HP... good overview at http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/sep2006/tc20060907_732 714.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_technology I discovered Tesseract in Debian so it is probably available in most distros. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: $20 for Chris's drive space project?
On Sunday 23 September 2007 13:06, Don Gould wrote: Do we need to put the pot around for some drive space? How many more disks could be squash into those machines? I'll put up $20 towards some drive space. 5 other people want to match me and we can go get a 320gb disk. This might help. I have ~125 gig of current distros. Another 60-70 gig will be added when I put Lenny on the market. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: $20 for Chris's drive space project?
On Sunday 23 September 2007 14:39, Don Gould wrote: Philip Charles wrote: On Sunday 23 September 2007 13:06, Don Gould wrote: Do we need to put the pot around for some drive space? How many more disks could be squash into those machines? I'll put up $20 towards some drive space. 5 other people want to match me and we can go get a 320gb disk. This might help. I have ~125 gig of current distros. Another 60-70 gig will be added when I put Lenny on the market. Lenny? I'm confused Did I miss beat here? Cheers Don Lenny = the current Debian testing. 23 CDs at the moment. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: Image files of Linux and Unix on St. Albans Neighbourhood Resource Centre computers.
Give me a shout if you want any of the Copyleft offerings. Phil. On Wednesday 19 September 2007 21:19, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Greetings CLUGgers, The recent thread which bemoaned the absence of a Definiitve Source for Linux in Christchurch has triggered Wesley and I to set up an archive of Linux Distros. In conjuction with the St. Albans Neighbourhood Resource Centre - That's the place where we meet each month - we have created a goodly, but by no means complete, collection of Linux and Unix disks. The Centre is open for business between 11:00am and 3:00pm every weekday and 1:00pm till 3:00 pm. on Saturdays. Go here for the list of Distros:- http://berty.dyndns.org/NN_Images.txt and here for a Street map:- http://tinyurl.com/ytbmb4 This is neither a download mirror, nor a Linux by post service - You have to turn up in person with loose change in your pocket to buy a CD/DVD. Alternatively a USB device with a Windows compatible file-system and sufficient free space is also possible. As this is all new to the Centre, I suggest a slow start. They won't be able to service dozens of CLUGgers turning up at lunchtime on Monday. It might be best to wait until Tuesday when Wesley is working there. Donations of other distributions to add to the collection would be welcome. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business
Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points
On Thursday 23 August 2007 06:58, Vik Olliver wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 23:03 +1200, Don Gould wrote: Perhaps that's why it's not propergating very fast in NZ on the desktop. I think that's more to do with the fact that we have a small market; retailers are reluctant to stock many options and most people use the OS that their desktop came pre-loaded with. Profit margins would be more inportant. Say $50+ for Vista and $3 for Linux. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Christchurch Linux Distribution Points
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 21:59, Eliot Blennerhassett wrote: Graeme Kiyoto-Ward wrote: The library is another place to look if you don't want to spend any money and don't mind an older distro. Choices are linux magazines or look in the OS section of the computer books. But who has all the recent copies of LXF (Linux Format Mag)? Is it members of this list? I.e. latest issue is 96, one copy on latest issues shelf at central, other 2 copies on loan. 95,94,93, 90, 89, 88, 87 all copies on loan 92,91 one copy on shelf at South (ooh better get down there...) No one is going to have a sign Linux Distros for Sale in lights at a city mall. The competition is too fierce to allow a commercially acceptable profit margin for Linux discs. The entry barriers into the Linux vendor business are so low that every member of this list could become a vendor. This means that Linux discs are available only on the little known edges of normal commerce. Libraries, eCafes, magazine give-aways, outdated discs in computer retail outlets et al. To date it seems that online vendor is the most successful business model, but here there are serious problems. Competition has forced prices down to the level where an online vendor can only supply discs as a sideline to their main business, or are prepared to run their enterprise as a hobby business like I run Copyleft. A stranger in town is going to find it difficult to pick up a disc, and I would suspect this would apply to any town. Not that I am complaining about competition and low prices of Linux installation media, I consider this to be one of the glories of floss. But we need to recognise there is a downside as well. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: CIA Products... Sales and Income...
On Monday 26 March 2007 23:32, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Mon 26 Mar 2007 19:40:09 NZST +1200, Nick Rout wrote: Hard to see how he has made a profit if the difference is in depreciation, which is very real. It's not so hard to see that an up-to-speed comlook carefullyputer for general use is a quite-nice-to-have. That's a profit/gain/whatever from the business acticity, although the IRD doesn't tax it. Burning on such a computer happens in the background while you use it normally. I know what I'm talking about here because I have burned many DVDs myself in the background while using a PIII-450 with KDE to do normal work. Let's say it is 2004 - that PIII would be 5 years old and you can guess its then value as well as I can. To me it seems quite difficult to not make a profit here (esp given the exorbitant prices[1]), unless one deliberately inflates expenses as much as posssible to keep the taxable profit low (which is standard practice in the Western world) or has no turnover. I would suggest that you read up how a business is run and discover what the costs and pitfalls are. You comments show that you do not have much knowledge in this area. There is a vast difference in providing discs for friends and running such a service in a business-like way so that people know that you will be around in a couple of years time. The IRD is not generous in its allowances. Expenses have to be justified. I'd say go for selling copies of anything you have on disk Don, it helps to pay the bills and you won't have a problem with the city council or non-profit status until the selling becomes dominant and/or the profit of copying exceeds your running costs, at which point you can easily knock it back. More likely it's not something you have to worry about though. Sell the discs as a service, but don't expect to make any significant profit. Volker [1] 2 DVDs with open source software: trademe 2x$15 (or a Knoppix DVD for $5.50 incl pp), copyleft $70. TradeMe is something I have looked at carefully and tried, I am not impressed. There are two bids on about 175 offerings tonight. $70 is realistic not exorbitant. I don't know how many people have set themselves up as Linux vendors in the last nine years and pulled out. Like me they probably started out starry eyed and found their enterprise was floundering and got out. I did some business home-work and I am still going. I get the use of hardware out of Copyleft, but this is a very low wage considering the time I put into it. The pitfall most people fall into when selling Linux discs is undercharging. Your reasoning encourages people to do this leading to their disappointment some months later. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: CIA Products... Sales and Income...
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 08:52, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Tue 27 Mar 2007 01:12:13 NZST +1200, Philip Charles wrote: I would suggest that you read up how a business is run and discover what the costs and pitfalls are. You comments show that you do not have much knowledge in this area. When I can buy an openSUSE box with printed manual and installation support (and nice double-layer DVD) for about the same as a cheap recordable-media copy (which is still missing the extras CD), or download 2 Debian disks for $27 at Telstra's top-of-the-industry over-cap prices then I don't see a lot of business case there, but a lot of what by my definition is exorbitant. I wish you would inform yourself about how business works. I can buy a car at an auction, private sale or dealer. I make my choice. There are pros and cons with each option, price being only one factor. People can get their Linux by download, in boxed sets, from friends or a vendor like me. They make their choice. Again their are pros and cons with each option, price being only one factor. If you want to know about factors other than price I suggest you do a google. going. I get the use of hardware out of Copyleft, but this is a very low wage considering the time I put into it. DOwnloading a file and burning X copies should not stretch the time budget. Making your own disks may do that, but you can ask more for those. Burning stock discs is only a small part of the time involvement. Again you need to understand how businesses work (and don't work). Any organisation like CIA needs to realise that there is no easy money to be made selling Linux. I have seen a number drop out of the Linux sideline. You said in the past you don't verify your burns. Careful! I have a QA system which has built up very good reputation for quality. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: OT: Bad economics arguments, was CIA Products... Sales and Income...
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:28, Kerry Mayes wrote: Well, I must say, it's really nice to see that the linux gurus on the list don't know everything. As soon as it gets into one of my areas of expertise (in this case economics) the holes in people's understanding start to gape! Thanks for the very amusing posts guys! I certainly could use you expertise. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: CIA Products... Sales and Income...
On Monday 26 March 2007 00:10, Don Gould wrote: alanw wrote: snip from a previous threed - new topic Not to mention that the view from the front door is great! I haven't seen 4 different CD Linux distros on display (for purchase?)... at all, anywhere, ever... (but I don't get out much, do I...) You have raised a very good point actually. David purchases his CD's from someone down south. I haven't given consideration to selling Linux products from the CIA. I think having a small product offering would be a great idea. Though unless the CD's are donated I suspect the cost, of producing stock that doesn't sell before the next version comes out, may exceed the profit. Good thinking. You may want to burn discs as a service, but you will not make money. I have been running Copyleft for over nine years. Copyleft has never paid tax. It is a 'stand alone' hobby business and has never generated a taxable profit. It pays its bills and keeps me and my wife in reasonably modern hardware. She is third in line after my no. 1 and no. 2 machines. I have given these details to make it clear that I am giving objective advice and that I am not trying to kill off potential competition. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: DVD burning woes... only on topic because I'm using a linux machine to do this
On Saturday 24 March 2007 19:47, Steve Holdoway wrote: I've made a copy of a dvd, which has generated the following directory tree: total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 48 Mar 24 18:42 AUDIO_TS drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 400 Mar 24 18:51 VIDEO_TS ./AUDIO_TS: total 0 ./VIDEO_TS: total 4575612 -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 12288 Mar 24 18:51 VIDEO_TS.BUP -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 12288 Mar 24 18:51 VIDEO_TS.IFO -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 22638592 Mar 24 18:51 VIDEO_TS.VOB -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 73728 Mar 24 18:42 VTS_01_0.BUP -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 73728 Mar 24 18:42 VTS_01_0.IFO -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 174254080 Mar 24 18:42 VTS_01_0.VOB -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Mar 24 18:44 VTS_01_1.VOB -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Mar 24 18:46 VTS_01_2.VOB -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Mar 24 18:48 VTS_01_3.VOB -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Mar 24 18:50 VTS_01_4.VOB -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 188819456 Mar 24 18:51 VTS_01_5.VOB What I want to do it to put this onto a dvd so that I can play it. I know I'm being simplistic, but why can I play this when it resides on the hard disk, but when burned onto a dvd, the initial titles are displayed, but the player locks up before showing the menu? I've used k3b to burn this as a data dvd. Is there an alternative solution that'll get my problem fixed? Can anyone tell me what my problem (in this case!) is?? I use dvdbackup to pull the data off the disc and growisofs to burn the copy. Was the original a double layered disc? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Can someone help this guy please. UPDATED
On Thursday 22 February 2007 19:30, Don Gould wrote: /ELITIST mode on Sorry John, but I have been so busy getting a project off the ground that I will be reporting back on when it's actually going that I missed Phil's initial query. Understood. The prerequisite numbers have now been dialed and arrangements made to sort the problem. Thanks. I generally can sort out installation problems over the phone, in this this case I couldn't. What is more David could not use his email so I could not get him to join his local LUG list which I encourage novices to do, hence my posting. I made the posting at his request. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Can someone help this guy please. UPDATED
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 21:26, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Please post /etc/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log Could he use Winders to post/email the files? I'd be happy to talk to him over the 'phone. My number is correct in the book. -- CS David needs face to face help. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Can someone help this guy please.
I have just been on the phone to David Jarman 03 322 9811 (ChCh). He is a Mandriva user who has run into problems with 2007 (2006 was okay). He has no email at present and not much in the way of Linux skills. We have spent some time on the phone, but this did not achieve anything. He has asked if I can locate someone to look at his system, this is what I am doing right now. It seems that the system will install, but on reboot the gui remains blank. Would someone contact David and look at his system please. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: openSUSE build service code now GPL
On Thursday 25 January 2007 19:53, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: At the last informal meeting the openSUSE build service was mentioned - it's a multi-distro multi-version automatic package compile and build setup. SUSE runs it for anyone to use online, and they have now released the code for it under GPL: http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service The idea looks like a real first to me, AFAIK noone else is offering anything similar. Volker debian-cd Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: openSUSE build service code now GPL
On Thursday 25 January 2007 21:19, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Thu 25 Jan 2007 21:11:29 NZDT +1300, Philip Charles wrote: debian-cd ?!?? Sorry, too criptic. debian-cd is the published Debian package used to build the Debian CDs. It is designed to be highly configurable. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: openSUSE build service code now GPL
On Thursday 25 January 2007 22:53, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: There was also some bit of software there which lets you make your own distro, but that distro is then openSUSE-based, and it's a different topic, though it's notable as well that SUSE ships the tool of their own accord which strips all the SUSE trademarks etc out so you can put your own ones in, which is nice of them. Compare Red Hat a few years back who (you'll remember) just sent you their lawyers. Yes, I had a (email) visit from them. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Printer Margins
On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:21, Barry wrote: Hi all, After reinsalling CUPS I find that the top margin of any doc I print from oo is +- 20mm too small with the header and all text being moved this much up the page. The problem is the same with oo1 and oo2. Google shows others have had the same problem, but no solution found there. I have tried resetting 'lpoptions -o page-top' to differing measurements stopping and restarting cupsd after each change but the option is not recognised. There is nothing wrong with the doc, it prints just fine with my old linux install. CUPS version appears to be 1.1.23 Any advice will be appreciated. Barry Do a google for alignmargins. It will setup the magins at the bottom of /etc/cups/ppd/*.ppd This can be done manually as well. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Dual boot Windows and Ubuntu
On Monday 01 January 2007 22:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Merrick wrote: I normally make the Windows partition the largest because Linux will be able to see and use that space, but Windows will not be able to see or use the Linux partition. Good luck, Michael. Sound advice down to there. However linux will not be able to write to the windows partition unless you make it FAT, which is a mistake from what i understand with any modern version of windows. However windows will access ext2/3 partitions thanks to the drivers available from http://www.fs-driver.org/ So on that basis, put your data on an ext3 and both windows and linux can write to it. This extends as far as XP, I have no knowledge of vista and ext2/3 writing. I suggest that a third fat32 partition be created which both os's can access. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: corrupt fs problem
On Thursday 21 December 2006 21:58, Barry wrote: Hi All I have a problem with a fat16 file system which I want to save, where 1 particular directory and its contents can not be deleted, the msg is 'read-only file system'. It mounts as vfat and only 1 directory appears to be faulty. The various 'files' have garbage as filenames and may be crosslinked. Would it be possible to copy the good directories to a Linux partition, reformat the fat partition and copy the good directoies back again? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: openSUSE download
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 23:28, Reg wrote: The best plan might be to message me off list with a phone number and we can coordinate. Not a bad idea. You are best to use the mobile in my sig. I move aout. When going from 10.1 to 10.2 is it best to do a complete fresh install? Or an upgrade over top of old one? SuSE is supposed to be one of the better distros for upgrading, so I woud try an upgrade first. Backing up of course. Phil. Reg -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 9:41 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: openSUSE download Good idea, let's coordinate. I'll be starting downloading the 10.2 final in 2 days, but expect it to take a little while until the clogging clears. I have both the 32bit and 64bit RC1 DVD isos, there will be deltas from RC1 to final. My personal educated guess is that the deltas will be 400-700MB each - not bad for a full DVD. I'm happy to give a copy of the ISO file(s) to anyone who rolls in with suitable portable storage device; a computer will do too but don't bother if it ain't have no ethernet, and set it up for dhcp please before you come. Burnt disks are $5 each (no not a commercial offer). There should be 2 DVDs with sources again, and a live DVD, and 6 CDs. Not enough for my data allowance, so I'll take you up on your offer Reg. Anyone else wanting to participate in the download sharing? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Acceptable Use Policy? ( rather long )
On Sunday 19 November 2006 20:39, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:14:03 +1300 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New thread because it's a new subject. I hope the mail agent has done it correctly. On Sunday 19 November 2006 18:30, Steve Holdoway wrote: I know I'm not worth talking to until my first coffee in the morning, and I try to refrain from posting until I have done so - usually succeed. I wish that some others would act the same way, as this list is getting so bad tempered that I'm sure we're driving a fair proportion of listers away ( any stats on that Zane? ). Like you I don't like the way some people seem to forget that they are writing to real live people who have feelings and emotions. One thing that I do take exception to are those who seem to use this list as an alternative to google, or even basic thought. Is this what's started hacking others off? IMHO I don't really think that it is acceptable to use the list as a place to offer business services, nor to solicit or tout for business. By touting I mean oh yes I could probably fix that if you want to pay me to come around. Nor do I think it is acceptable to do so off list - ie in a private/offlist reply. We are not a venue for commercial providers to gather customers. The exception of course is if people say I want a commercial provider for this particular problem and I am willing to pay. In that case it is obviously acceptable to offer a commercial service, and the reply to such a post should be offlist. There are edge cases, such as the offer to come round and spend a period of time sorting something in exchange for beer/pizza/strongly caffeinated drinks - I think its all about the spirit of the offer. Anything that is no more than recompense for expenses (e.g. a very small charge per CD) or a token (e.g. a six pack) is fine IMHO. I appreciate that there are consultants on the list who want to make their living from linux. I don't mind a small .sig making it plain that a poster is a professional. Apart from that, those professionals and aspiring professionals, should make sensible and helpful comments on the list. If they prove themselves knowledgable and helpful, the business will come to them without touting to the membership. /IMHO Sometimes a commercial service is the only option for a particular situation. My policy is to reply off-list with If you have no luck .. This is designed to provide a backup solution if all else fails. After all one of the functions of the list is to help. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: ftp.nz.debian.org status?
On Monday 09 October 2006 17:35, John Carter wrote: I've been using the ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/unstable repository for awhile now... Trouble is it has been weeks(months?) since it last updated 3 Oct was the last update (debian-master) Is the upstream not updating? Or is that mirror not mirroring? Or is there a fresher local debian mirror anywhere? Citylink mirrors from kernel.org and there does not seem to be any debian on that mirror. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Debian Sarge ISOs
On Sunday 17 September 2006 12:48, Don Gould wrote: See: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/?fl= We don't yet have net access at the Upper Riccarton library, so I can't do a net install on Thursday. Does anyone on list know anything about debian? How many of the ISO's do I need? I see there are 14 currently. Three. These discs contain all the packages, inc i18n, required for the preselected systems. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - personal.[EMAIL PROTECTED] - business I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: How to determine monitor frequencies?
On Monday 26 June 2006 13:47, John Carter wrote: On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: How can I determine the actually running monitor frequencies? The monitor(s) doesn't show it in some menu place. I'm a bit late on this one, but isn't it fairly simply calculable from your resolution refresh rate. hsync = refresh rate / number of lines vsync == refresh rate dot clock ~ ((N cols +some smallish overshoot) * M rows + smallish sweep back time) * refresh rate I may well be misunderstanding things, but that is my vague memory of how it all works... The hardware detection utility on the System Rescue CD should be able to deliver the info. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Dapper availability?
On Friday 02 June 2006 11:29, Nick Rout wrote: There are isos released and some are available at ftp://debian.co.nz/ubuntu-iso/dapper/ I was just wondering if anyone had them closer to home. Can't be bothered downloading the iso. grumble Orcon imposed a download limit /grumble I have Ubuntu i386/amd64 in both desktop and alternative. Also Kubuntu i386/amd64 in alternative. Should have Kubuntu i386/amd64 desktop in about four hours. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Where to buy SUSE boxes?
On Monday 08 May 2006 13:15, Carl Klitscher wrote: Express Data are the local distributors so in theory you should be able to walk into any computer store and say 'Can I have one of these please?' and it shall be done... http://www.expressdata.co.nz In practice you may have a bit more of a problem but the website also carries contact details so they may be worth an email or two. Interesting. An Aussie outfit with NZ branches sourcing much of its stock from over the ditch. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Where to buy SUSE boxes?
On Saturday 06 May 2006 10:22, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Where do you buy Suse 10 these days? I tried Dr floppy but owner has retired Good question. Apart from drfloppy, there were 2 others who used to sell it, but I can't remember their names and a google search turns up nothing in NZ, but plenty in Oz which sells to NZ. The Ozzie www.fishpond.co.nz seems to be the most prominent (NZ$105 incl shipping, at least they deal in local currency). Checking novell givens an answer no-one: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/resellers/oceania/new_zealand/ index.html But as novell don't even know fishpond, I would disregard them as a reliable source of info in this matter. If anyone knows of a real NZ company, please speak up, I'd like to know too. This is for the boxed set please, not me-and-my-burner.co.nz. Now that DrFloppy has gone I doubt if anyone stocks boxed SuSE in NZ. Fishpond probably sources their supply of boxed sets from Aussie and like me is geared up to supply OpenSuSE. I would suggest waiting. SuSE 10.1 will be available shortly. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: SUSE 10.0 full DVD
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:47, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: May I draw everyone's attention to a SUSE 10.0 DVD which claims to contain a full set of packages but misses essentials like a compiler, The Official OSS DVD is 3168 MB which is consistant with the sum of the OSS CDs. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: debian... completely gone to the dogs?
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:03, Steve Holdoway wrote: As you may well know, I have been an exponent and fan of debian for many years. Not any more... I decided to convert all of my servers to run virtually on a single system, I've purchased nice big toys, and after a lot of tribulations, got them all working. Base setup is 4x320GB SATA2 drives, 2GB memory, all driven by a dual core 64bit amd processor. Took a bit of getting working - the bios had to interfere with the boot sequence with it's 'RAID' controller: the solution os to set them up as jbpd and it'll find the disks - and there were cabling issues with the case, but I'm now ready to install a 64 bit linux. Wanted to use sarge, but there isn't a version available, so went for etch, which is the new name for testing. Downloaded the latest net install CD, any built up the system. All went fine until I try to start up a graphical interface. X is fine, but there's nothing else there. I've got the default twm, but no gnome, and no kde either. apt-get install gnome fails with dependencies. so does kde. So I try the bleeding edge version. Same deal. WTF? It seems there's a problem with the printer subsystem, and it's currently impossible to install a 64 bit amd version of debian if you want a gui. Given the press they've been getting lately, I'd say that it's time to move on. So, like some other distros, I'm downloading Ubuntu as my base system. Hopefully I can remove their silly security system and use it how a server should be used ( I did look for a server version - sure there used to be one around ). I'll ley you know how I get on with this foray into the 64 bit world, or if I give up and return to 32 bit sanity instead. cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 027 663 4453 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: broadband
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:50, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:24:41 +1300 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I agree, but you pay for the non-peskyness. Orcon 2Mbit, 11GB: $50, plus Telecom line rental $35 = $85. Currently you get some sort of modem free, dunno whether it's a good one for Linux. You lose out on 2 hour capped calling rates, both national and international. 128kbit upload (no comment). Chances of static IP? Time to revisit this bloody question. I just got an email from orcon saying that their 256/128 plans are going from $50 to $60 per month, (without getting their tolls) AND if you go over 40G per month you get charged $10 per 5GB. On a recent month I did 91GB, so I guess I am a heavy user, but its gonna get way expensive if I continue that. I am with Ihug Heavy 2mbps/128kbps, 40gig, plus 40gig from midnight - 8am (off peak). 80 gig total. $90pm with tolls. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: update on dying disk
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 10:58, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Yep! And part of that is, what is the best backup (sub)system? CDs? DVDs? Tape? Answer yourself these questions: * How much data volume to back up? * How often? * What's your budget? * What's your loss if you lose the data, expressed in dollars? This gives you most of your own answer. Perhaps that should be a talk subject, done by someone wiser and more experienced than myself? Show of hands? I could prepare a talk about that. Always remember that your own stuff, docs, scripts etc is irreplaceable. This has a higher priority in my system that ~150 Gig of downloaded software, mind you I would not like to replace it, but it could be done. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Postdocs, Ph.D. student wanted
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:01, Jim Cheetham wrote: However, Linux is just a reimplementation of the monolithic kernel style present at the time Linus was learning. Andy thinks it's a shame that all the energy that's going into Linux isn't going into anything truly innovative, in kernel terms. Quite agree. Considerable effort is needed to achieve results in Linux which are natively part of the Hurd (or other microkernel architectures). Eg SELinux. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: FLOSS Mirror, MIniPOP and Wilber
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:32, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:31:13 +1300 Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilber went back to Au on Sunday. Before he left we got our MiniPOP up and running. Now all I have to do is relocate it and hook it up to the antenna on the roof. I'm planning on setting up a FLOSS mirror so people can pull up outside my house and dl all the FLOSS they want. I've got 12 gb to start with until some disks get donated to me. What do people think I should put on it? I'd appreciate answers in the following format... Item - required disk space Mankrake 150.1 - 3gb Open Office 25.1 - 8Tb etc Thanks for your input in advance... I suspect your difficulty will be in getting and reliably maintaining your mirrors. You will need a big pipe to the net to maintain any sizable mirror. eg 40+ gig for Debian. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: linux printers
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:00, Nick Rout wrote: I'd be interested to know if they are open source? From the Brother Linux download site:- Click here to download the source code for these drivers (GPL License). Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: linux printers
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:19, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: (If you can't find an R210 driver, the R200 driver is identical. I've found Epson generally supportive of Linux.) Correct, Epson inkjets are the best supported under Linux. Canon doesn't support Linux fullstop, so don't buy Canon printers. I have just counted 30 Linux drivers for Canon printers. In my experience one of the best Linux supported printers about. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: linux printers
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:26, Philip Charles wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:00, Nick Rout wrote: I'd be interested to know if they are open source? From the Brother Linux download site:- Click here to download the source code for these drivers (GPL License). Correction, the above only applies to the CUPS wrapper. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: linux printers
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:48, Dave G wrote: Hi CLUG I am in the market for a new printer and was wondering if anyone on the list had any suggestions for either a mid range inkjet of entry level laser? I have googled and checked out Linuxprinting.org but was interested in a local perspective as well I bought a Brother HL-2040 Laser a week or so ago. .deb and .rpm drivers can be downloaded from Brother. Consumables should be about 4c per copy. Parallel and usb connections. I am very happy with it. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Slightly OT - Ihug satellite service?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:49, Nick Rout wrote: Does ihug still run it's satellite internet service? I see no reference to it on a quick cruise of their site. The real reason I am asking is that I am after a satellite TV card and it struck me that the PCI cards they used might be able to pick up satellite TV - in fact I know that they can, but there are driver issues. For example I belive that in BillVille they will only work on W98 but not on NT/2000/XP. So I guess it boils down to this: 1. is the service still running? Yes, with another owner 2. if not, where are all the tellemann skymedia 200d cards? (and did they remain the poroperty of ihug or should they all be flooding trademe?) AFAIK, the property of IHUG, but they have not asked me for mine. 3. do they work with a 2.6 kernel? Tellemean has a bad reputation with Linux. A driver came out of IHUG which worked with 2.4.x if you held your tongue right as it compiled. I did not see any driver for 2.6 4. assuming satisfactory answers above, does anyone have one to sell? Yup, me. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: rpms
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:13, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: ahh i didn't know that, thought the name change was just marketroidonics No, the name change was because the owner of the Mandrake trademark successfully sued them to death. Unfortunately Mandrake was named after the magican (Lothar was not included) and not the plant. Hurst owns the magican. Phil. -- -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: rpms
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:29, Nick Rout wrote: apt works well on top of rpm - apt-rpm was pioneered by connectiva (theres an important rpm distro in a large part of the world - a ppor part too, and one that doesn't kowtow to the US, so they are quite into FLOSS). Conectiva is now part of Mandriva, the ...iva part. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:20, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Isn't the English language so much fun? :-) Now all we need to do is to get the use of their, there, and the're sorted out, and we'll be able to tell the dotty slashers where to go. You will need to include colour, labour, disc etc ;) Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Bordernet
On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:33, orac wrote: Hi Are there any ihug sat users that have been switched to Bordernet isat. Any problems? What do you think so far I have found downloads 100% (yes 100%) faster in most cases, however there help line is crap, they said they don't offer any network support. I certainly found an increase in speed, but I ended up with a $100 excess usage charge when my multiple download connections went bad. I switched to the 2 Mb adsl on my second phone line for these reasons. 1. 10 GB rather than 4GB (with snapon) 2. Cheaper 3. No hassles about switching to a 2.6 kernel The down side is that it is not as fast. My sat dish is currently on a M$ platform but want to change it to my Linux (slackware 10) file server later on but of course they don't offer support for Linux. There are drivers available. The driver depends on the card and kernel. I had a driver for the 200d. and 2.4 kernel Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Downloads on dial up
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: To the best of my knowledge, only this and the torrent or jigdo based solutions ( same sort of concept for both which is why I lumped them together ) actually work for these large files. lftp and curl reportedly have no trouble with large files. I use lftp for full sized DVD iso's, no problem. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Is opensuse accessible via ftp?
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Is it possible to do a network install from an ftp server for opensuse? All I have found fo far is CD and DVD iso's. As I understand, all there is at the moment is SuSE 10 beta 1. Expect beta 2 tomorrow. SuSE 10 and openSUSE should be closely related but I don't know where/when they will branch. I assume openSUSE will be ftp-installable after the beta phase. The whole openSUSE thing is still being put together so treat things as being in flux to some extent. SuSE 9.3 is installable via ftp once a floppy image has been downloaded. See ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/README.FTP Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: openSUSE
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Well, SuSE + Novell managed to drop a bombshell: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/62400 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/62435 The distro is going multi-tier. OpenSUSE will be the community-based version of the distribution, also known as SuSE Linux. No commercial, support for this from SuSE. SuSE Linux Professional will remain the boxed set as it currently is, and it's derived from / based on the larger community project. The SuSE Linux Enterprise Server and its Novell linux Desktop counterpart remain as is, based on SuSE Linux Pro. * I have had the Prof-i386 CDs and the ftp archive for some time and downloaded the evaluation DVD yesterday. The Evaluation DVD has more x86_64 packages than the ftp archive (if the the debug packages are excluded), 1813/1600. However when it comes to the i586 packages the Copyleft DVD (most of the i18n packages have been removed to bring it down to size) has 3344 packages compared to 1926. So it is the DVD for a x86_64 installation and the ftp archive, the CDs or the Copyleft DVD for installing a 32 bit system. Most of the x86_64 (amd64) distros place the 64 bit libraries in ../lib64, the 32 bit libs using ../lib. Debian is a notable exception being 'pure' amd64. The 64 bit libs are in ../lib and gymnastics have to be used to run 32 bit apps. I have not managed to build Debian etch discs up to now. I have not been able to locate the new copyright licence yet, but the OpenSuse talks about buying discs from a web store as distinct from Novell so Copyleft is now part of the action. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: openSUSE
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Thu 11 Aug 2005 21:29:17 NZST +1200, Philip Charles wrote: [...] I didn't quite get most of your post I'm afraid. OpenSUSE isn't out yet, the first round of beta testing started this week - and the olde beta testing guard only got access 12 hours ahead of the rest of the world. I have the 4 32bit CDs now if anyone wants a copy. I just followed the links on opensuse.net and identified a suitable site. The Prof CD set was identical to what was offering except for the first CD which needed a quick rsync. The same sites had the Evaluation DVD. I am not following the development branch at this stage. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: A job for someone
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, July 21, 2005 3:16 pm, Derek Smithies said: Hi, On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, sirlancelot wrote: no way to do it in a short time frame with ordinary gear - sorry about that embarrased maybe not... 10 people burning 130 cds is quicker than 1 person buring 1300. it is more dependent on how many burners they have actually. Linux is muti-user, but the 10 would not get far sharing one burner. OTOH one person with quick hands and 10 burners might do quite well :-) My estimate with a single burner is 200 hours. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Tom Lehrer's Elements
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, Carl Klitscher wrote: Ahh yes... I remember reading an interview once where someone admitted that the only reason they passed their chemistry exam was because of that song... TL thought that that was very sad... Personal favourites are MLF Lullaby and Werner Von Braun... About a maid I'll sing a song, Sing rickity tickity tin, About a maid I'll sing a song, Who didn't have her family long Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: wget, but for 2GB
On Tue, 31 May 2005, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Funny, I use lftp because it is user friendly. I don't use wget because it is not user friendly. Yes, very funny, since wget just gets the specified URL to local disk and is done with it, whereas lftp requires some farting with -c, quoting, and ftp commands which I have no interest in knowing anything about if I can avoid it, otherwise it just barfs. See (any file will do): lftp ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/README.mirror-policy cd: Access failed: 550 CWD command failed. (/pub/README.mirror-policy) # lftp # open ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/ # get README.mirror-policy -o /where-i-want-it Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: wget, but for 2GB
On Tue, 31 May 2005, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: lftp is said to do it, but it's not user-friendly. Funny, I use lftp because it is user friendly. I don't use wget because it is not user friendly. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: gimp
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Douglas Royds wrote: Grokking the GIMP is in fact that book. It's good, it's in the Chch Public Library, and it's available for free on-line (free beer)! In Debian Sarge, non-free Package: grokking-the-gimp Priority: optional Section: non-free/doc Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: [OT] Murphy's Law
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Michael JasonSmith wrote:
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 00:58 +0200, Martin Bähr wrote:
yup and, also do not forget:
murphy was an optimist.
Not really. Capt. Edward A. Murphy, the US Army Air-Force technician,
was someone who had to work with others, and it got him down now and
again, which lead to his statement ‘If there’s any way they can do it
wrong, they will.’
http://www.improb.com/airchives/paperair/volume9/v9i5/murphy/murphy1.html
From the Jargon file.
:Murphy's Law: /prov./ The correct, *original* Murphy's
Law reads: If there are two or more ways to do something, and one
of those ways can result in a catastrophe, then someone will do
it. This is a principle of defensive design, cited here because
it is usually given in mutant forms less descriptive of the
challenges of design for {luser}s. For example, you don't make a
two-pin plug symmetrical and then label it `THIS WAY UP'; if it
matters which way it is plugged in, then you make the design
asymmetrical (see also the anecdote under {magic smoke}).
Edward A. Murphy, Jr. was one of the engineers on the rocket-sled
experiments that were done by the U.S. Air Force in 1949 to test
human acceleration tolerances (USAF project MX981). One experiment
involved a set of 16 accelerometers mounted to different parts of
the subject's body. There were two ways each sensor could be glued
to its mount, and somebody methodically installed all 16 the wrong
way around. Murphy then made the original form of his
pronouncement, which the test subject (Major John Paul Stapp)
quoted at a news conference a few days later.
Finagle's Law is oftem attributed to Murphy.
Phil.
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Re: adsl modem recommendations?
On Tue, 24 May 2005, Roger Searle wrote: Hi, I have discovered today that my local phone exchange box thing now supports adsl (actually it has for the last 6 months). I am just waiting for confirmation of available capacity from that cabinet (it has been fully subscribed in the past prior to the recent addition of a new bit and there is the possibility of this too being full). The usb modem given away by telstra clear doesn't support linux so I'm in the market for one. Does anyone have recommendations for good makes and models? Or ones to stay away from? Probably with 4 ethernet ports so I can plug it into my now full 5 port switch. Linux friendly of course. I am using the Dick Smith four port ADSL Ethernet Router (two in fact) via an ethnet connection. I am happy with them. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: CD problems with Gentoo
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Hello, I have some problems that trouble me with Gentoo: 1. When I burn a CD or DVD under Gentoo (gentoo-sources 2.6.11-r7) with k3b or cdrecord the writing works well but later I when I look at the disk it says that it is empty. I definitely did not enable simulation. I somewhere heard that this has to do with an incompatibility between my kernel and cdrecord. Is there any program that does work? 2. When I mount CDs the names are shortened to 8.3: linux-installer.sh becomes linux-in.sh. I have noticed the same conversion when wirting data to a USB-stick. For PDFs this does not matter but it is impossible to install programs from CD like this. This may help. Part of a script I use to burn a bootable CD from a file system. mkisofs -r -T \ -b isolinux/isolinux.bin \ -c isolinux/boot.catalog -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \ -boot-info-table \ /b5/debian/yacs-sarge-std/sarge-i386/boot1 /b5/debian/yacs-sarge-std/sarge-i386/CD1 \ | cdrecord -tao driveropts=burnfree -v speed=16 dev=0,0 - Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Pike Python perennial
On Sun, 15 May 2005, Steve Holdoway wrote: perl = Practical Extraction and Report Language tempation Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister /tempation Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: OT: UTC
On Wed, 11 May 2005, Michael JasonSmith wrote: On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 18:19 +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: UTC *is* GMT. Almost, not not quite. UTC includes leap-seconds that GMT does not. (Not that you would notice.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC Or put it this way, if the Earth's rotation slows, then the GMT second will lengthen relative to the UTC second. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Paradise adsl?
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 18:11 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 17:41 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: I have rebuilt a pc for someone who believes that they have a Paradise adsl account. They do not have details of the settings for their modem, only the username and password so I thought that should not be too much of a problem, I would just check the Paradise website for info. Yeah right!! Am I being lead up the wrong path or is it that I just cannot find the settings? Anyone on this list know anything about it? What more do you need than the username and password? oh if you are looking for the full login its [EMAIL PROTECTED] (unsurprisingly i guess) Is it? Ihug's is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Xtra's is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Password vs Passphrase (Was: Do I need a firewall?)
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, John Carter wrote: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, yuri wrote: On 4/21/05, Steve Holdoway wrote: I read a rather good article from some at Mickey$oft about security. He suggested that you give up on the use of passwords altogether. Instead you should use a passphrase. Easy for you to remember, but at 30 or 40 characters, almost impossible to hack. Isn't a passphrase just a very long password? What am I missing here? If we use Isn't a passphrase just a very long password? as a passphrase the result would be... Iapjavlp which isn't very long and certainly not susceptible to a dictionary attack. I understand that a passphrase is a long password which allows spaces. The above sentence would be an acceptable passphrase. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: OT: software and IP law in NZ
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Carl Cerecke wrote: Douglas Royds wrote: Carl Cerecke wrote: Here is an interesting article of IP issues relating to software from a NZ perspective. http://www.chapmantripp.co.nz/resource_library/published_article.asp?id=4157 Note in particular that you can - according to this article - patent both software source code and business practices in NZ. Joy. So I noticed. I didn't realise software was patentable in NZ. Maybe the article is incorrect? I don't remember seeing anything about it. I don't think the table was to be taken too seriously, its purpose was to illustrate the complexity of IP. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Mandriva Linux
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 06:49 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: Anyone tried Mandriva Linux http://www.mandriva.com/ easier to trademark than mandrake (which is a real word)?? Mandrake plant. Mandrake the Magican comic strip. Mandrake Linux followed this line, top hat and all. I think this is where they ran into copyright problems with Hurst. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Yet Another Basic-on-Linux E-mail
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Wesley Parish wrote: I suppose - because they could. ;) Myself, I'm not a fan of BASIC, since having tried to learn it in order to play around with graphics with the book Microcomputer Graphics for the IBM PC, whic was written in the bad old days of BASIC only on the PC. On the CeBIT last year they had an exhibition of old computers. There was one, I think it was a Commodore C64, which had only BASIC as ui, programming language. You had to use those old audio tapes for saving your data. It is hard to think that someone wrote programs on such a computer. I wonder what people of my age will say in 30 years when they see a box similar to the ones we are using in a museum. I still miss the line numbers. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Gentoo 2005.0 release
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005, Nick Rout wrote: For those interested: I am trying to co-ordinate some downloads so as not to duplicate effort. Those interested in helping let me know. We have a couple of weeks until Robert's Garage, but theres no point in everyone downloading the same thing... It is working its way around the mirrors at the moment. I am downloading install universal. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Gentoo 2005.0
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005, Jamie Dobbs wrote: Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 08:59 +1200, Jamie Dobbs wrote: Has anyone heard any updates on when this will be released? I have a spare box I want to put it on when it comes out and wonder how much longer I will need to wait. Real Soon Now I had some private discussions with the one of the release engineering people, who are not promising anything, but did say we should be safe to hold the gentoo installfest on 9 April. The ../releases/x86/2005.0 directory is up on the mirrors, but access is denied. My guess is within the next seven days. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: GNU/Linux Users meeting#2 Weds 02 March
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Richard Tindall wrote: I could let you have Debian testing (sarge) Official Snapshot, the first three CDs, gratis. This CD set is produced by Debian about once a week for testing purposes. The first three CDs should have everything people want. This sounds like the simple solution we need to begin, with due thanks to Chris Steve for their offers too (how was the UK, Steve?). Phil just needs an address to get the CDs (as 'motivated' specified) to Chch in time. I know he has mine, which he may use if noone else volunteers theirs to Phil. I have plenty of blank CDs, so with Tim et. al.'s burners, the Debian CDs will be available gratis (as are Ubuntu some older, remastered Knoppixes). ..Come one, come all! :-) A new verson of Debian testing (sarge) Official Snapshot has just been built and I have it. The CDs will be on their way to Rik Tindall at InfoHelp tomorrow and he should have them on Tuesday. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: GNU/Linux Users meeting#2 Weds 02 March
The GPL can cause confusion, so here goes. On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Jim Cheetham wrote: The cost of these CDs can be no more than the reasonable costs of producing them. As guaranteed by the GPL :-) http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html You may charge a fee for the physical act of transferring a copy This refers to source section 1. The distribution of executables (section 3) refers back to sections 1 2. Section 2 about modifications and this section does not mention a fee. There is _no_ limitation on the fee that can be charged in section 1. for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution This refers to the obligation to make source code available if the executable has been provided. Section 3b. There _is_ a limitation on the fee in this case. From the preamble of the GPL; ...the GNU General Public License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change free software--to make sure the software is free for all its users. The use of free in this passage is in the sense of libre, liberated. It is not about price. Section 3b ensures that there can be no restriction to source code availability based on an inflated price. Section 1 makes it clear that vendor charges a fee and does not sell the software. The software remains the property of the copyright holder so it is not the vendors to sell. However, the GPL creates one of the few examples of a free market unrestricted by copyright and patents, and with a very low cost barrier for those wanting to become a FLOSS software vendor. This drives down the costs to the end user. Friends burning discs for friends is another way of ensuring costs are held down. Free (libre) is not free (gratis), but Free Libre Open Source Software (FLOSS) creates a mechanism for providing very cheap software to the end user. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: GNU/Linux Users meeting#2 Weds 02 March
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Timothy Musson wrote: Wesley Parish, 2005-02-25 22:32:29: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:34, Richard Tindall wrote: motivated wrote: From whom do I order a copy of the Debian CDs ?? And the cost for them will be ?? If someone's got a machine with a DVD reader and a CD-R/W writer, I've got a Debian DVD I can bring along. My computer will be there, but I only have a CD-R/RW drive, no DVD. I have 7 Debian 3.0 (woody) binary CDs, but they're from 2002 and probably too much hassle to bother with. (You'd have to download a huge pile of updates to catch up with the current 3.0r4.) If it turns out that CDs aren't available at the meeting, you could try Paul Swafford at e-cafe, or Philip Charles. I could let you have Debian testing (sarge) Official Snapshot, the first three CDs, gratis. This CD set is produced by Debian about once a week for testing purposes. The first three CDs should have everything people want. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: SuSE 9.2 FC3 cheap (?)
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: I just bought the latest APC magazine because I saw it had SuSE 9.2 on the cover DVD. I am not sure yet how complete it is, but it says on the cover that there is 3.3GB. Perhaps not bad for $9.95. Sounds as though it is SUSE-Linux-9.2-FTP-DVD.iso which combines 32 and 64 bit versions into an evaluation DVD. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Email ettiquette rant
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote: And there is no doubt that they have legal effect. Some duties of confidentiality depend on the person on whom you wish to impose a duty having knowledge of the confidential nature of the information. Can such a notice impose a duty of confidentiality on me if it is sent to me in error? Other than good manners etc. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
Re: Large hard drives
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Mark Carey wrote: Before I partition the drive, my questions for the list, 1. Is it safe to use the drive at full capacity, I will never be booting from this drive? O this motherboard. I plan long term to pick up a PIII chip and motherboard from Broker when they get one in, which should support the larger drive. 2. What file system do people reccomend for /home reiser, xfs, other? Am currently using ext3 but have seen various religious flame wars on the topic and would like some pointers and this is my experience type discussion. Once the kernel has booted it takes over from the bios. This means that if you have two HDDs and one is missing from the bios then the kernel will find it and access it. I found this useful when I had drives larger that the bios could cope with. A trick when hda is too big for the bios is to feed in parameters to the bios that will fool it into booting the first part of the drive. If the kernel is in this section then it will take over from the bios and accesses the whole drive. I have used this as well. Yes, you are quite safe using the drive as hda or hdx. I am conservative and use ext3. Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sell GNU/Linux GNU/Hurd CDs DVDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz
