Re: Speaking of donations (domain names registered)
Robert Fisher wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2007 9:32 pm, Nick Rout wrote: Thanks to a kind donation by West Finance Limited our domain names have been renewed for another year. 3 cheers to that man (cost was approx $90.00). Well done!! Hip, hooray!!
Re: Future of Monthly Meetings?
Steve Holdoway wrote: At least it got more response than what I consider a far more valid and, I had hoped, thought provoking suggestion... Just tacking on to the end of the thread How about something like the LoCo concept? If the UK only needs one team, then maybe we should look to expand from C to SI? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto Was going to reply to that one ( hopefully make it past procmail ;) An Ubuntu LoCo seems quite possibly the most promising scheme so far for a local *nix workgroup built around common tool- and skill-sets. Except few have yet functioned, as far as I can tell. This I would put down to an unrealistic appraisal of geography - or territoriality, more specifically - a curiously male trait? That is, an 'NZ LoCo' was eagerly registered early on by some guy/s in Hawkes Bay, but who has heard of it/them since? Vision and means may undo any such grand plan. Imagine how difficult 'one UK team' would be to achieve!?! Thus, even your suggestion of a South Island LoCo is problematic, I feel, simply because Dunedinites are unlikely to agree to anything led by Christchurch, in my humble experience (inviting kind correction :) Or is there a LoCo cell there already?.. So the only practical step I can see towards an Ubuntu LoCo, is to just try and put one together locally - here in and for Canterbury - a trial LoCo branch? Who knows, maybe it would merge with other successful local groups in future, once we've all worked out means as to how local branches can actually function. (Think small, easy steps / KISS.) Certainly, Software Freedom Day innovation has brought together all the key elements for a LoCo (network) to take shape. Unjoined dots. - ldots ... (cue MJ). Which means there's just the one answer for the coming month: SFD! Hoping to see you there. Sponsorship from the firm is warmly invited!! hth cheers, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on virus-free Ubuntu GNU/Linux 6.06 freeOS, 2.6.15-28-686 kernel, GNOME 2.14.3 desktop OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 suite, Mozilla.org Firefox 1.5.0.12 web browser and Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 email, gEdit 2.14.4 webeditor, gFTP 2.0.18 fileXfer
Re: CLUG Funds and SFD donation (was something else)
Good one Zane. Zane Gilmore wrote: Count me in for $25 too. I do think that we should support adverts for the SFD in the Press. Glad to see that someone else was proud to see FOSS in major print. Am considering a switch to / mix with The Star, nonetheless - a wider audience? [Thanks for those suggestions of ad avenues today Paul Chevy.] But not in some random place but rather in the technology pages as that is where our demographic is likely to be reading. Yes, 1st option, dang near bought. This has got a reporter along and a small write-up the following week, in the past. Just putting an advert in some random place in the paper eg in the fashion section or the sports section is going to be a monumental waste of money. 'Run-of-paper' is better than that - if not A then B section, near to front as possible. I think we got an A3? - Not even C-J. my 2c (or $25 (-: ) Zane Thanks! Nick Rout wrote: Don Gould wrote: David Kirk wrote: ...there must be better uses for this money than donating it to the Press. I agree. Some posters put up around the place and flyers would have just as much impact. ~$20 can go a long way. Who is the target market? Everyone (using PCs). There must be better ways we can get to the limited number of people that come to these things. Well, the big paper ads mean approx 90-120,000 copies go out in one day. Hard to beat. But we've polled visitors. The range of advertising means all draw in some each, adding up to bigger totals. Hardly cost efficient, but some SFDers have made their way thru to CLUG (= some benefit already). 10c = 1 x A4 photocopy. Cheers Don How about a pledge system? Rik needs $300-400 - say $350.00 (don't forget he is feeding in other money too). How about we aim to contribute up to half of the $350.00 from CLUG funds and half from pledges, dollar for dollar. So if we get $175 in pledges CLUG contributes $175, and the target is met. If we get $200 in pledges CLUG contributes $150 to make up to the target. If we only get $100 in pledges CLUG only contributes the same, ie $100. I'll start by pledging $25.00, and I 'll fix up a page on the wiki for pledges to be recorded, once a couple of other people have supported the idea. _ This has been cleaned processed by www.rocketspam.co.nz _ Does that mean we can load spam onto one of Mark's rockets and fire it off into space? ;-) Cheers, Rik
Re: CLUG Funds and SFD donation (was something else)
Great support, thanks Nick! Nick Rout wrote: With Zane's pledge we have $90.00, doubled to $180.00 Come on everyone - we need to double that to get to the initial target of $175 (doubled to $350.00). Don't forget the more you donate the more advertising we do for Software Freedom Day. This our chance for a big promotion to the community! Record your pledge here. http://clug.net.nz/index.php/PledgeDrive (click edit and follow the format of the previous lines in the table to add yours. If you can't suss it then email me and i can do the editing). Rik can you contact the pledgers by private email with your bank account number or other suggested method of payment? Yep. Once we're 'ready to commit'. Usually I pay for the ads by credit card, so collecting pledged cash on SFD is ok as the bill arrives later. Everything goes through the books, should anyone want to audit or trace. Will report back on the promotional work. Cheers, Rik
Re: The free sticker book...
Good one Don, Don Gould wrote: http://raro.oreto.inf-cr.uclm.es/apps/stickers/ Can't take ownership of finding this, but it's so kewl that I thought the list might like it. Cheers Don If you print off a small stock, you may get something for them on SFD. Or we could buy a book off you, for extra giveaways. ..Says he who's practically given up on maintaining a printer. Cheers, Rik
Re: === Meeting Tomorrow - 14 August 2007 ===
A point to consider is whether CLUG wants to turn its support for Software Freedom Day into a Press advertising contribution. $300-$400 would be half of two or three ads in the (Saturday,) Tuesday and Saturday Press, before/on SFD, and I will find the remainder. The terms 'Installfest' and 'Canterbury Linux Users Group' can feature prominently in the ads, as people would like. A prompt decision on this is required, for these adverts to go ahead, given the pending deadline. I have consulted with Zane in formulating this proposal. My apologies ( Zane's) for tonight's meeting start, although I hope to get there later on. If someone would like to print this out take it along to read out, that would be most helpful. As an indication of event support thus far, we have 13 SFD T-shirts on order, plus plenty of free CDs to give away. 'Have Fun!' Kind regards, Rik Tindall pp http://www.softwarefreedomday.org Team Christchurch
FreeNix tuition 7 Dec
Hi all, The GNU/Linux Users have their final workshop for 2005 next Wednesday night: 7.30pm December 7th, Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Christchurch. A map appears here: http://clug.net.nz/index.php/MeetingSchedule Bring a computer and/or questions, and we'll do our best to resolve the issues. The base platform we use is Ubuntu, which mostly configures like any other GNU/Linux. These sessions are tailored to meet new user requirements, so you can present or ask anything you like. We also have FreeBSD capacity, for those that want to share its use. All welcome. Install live CDs available upon request. Tea/coffee/bics are provided, and we ask a donation to cover costs. Happy holidays, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: OT google thinks I am in .uk
Nick Rout wrote: google seems to think I am in the UK. - it offers to search The Web or Pages from the UK - I am on a paradise adsl connection, - whois is pretty clear about where my IP address is based. why does google think I am in the UK? I don't know, but I found Google Local really useful yesterday for tracing ancestral path back to North Kensington. - Are you related to Ettie? (OT) -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: modem connection
Matthew Whiting wrote: Wondering what would be the recommended way of controlling a dial-up connection with Ubuntu or similar? My modem works nicely but only when I can connect :-) Under 'Network Settings' if I set the Modem Connection to activated and select 'Set modem as default route to internet' it dials up when I start up my machine. Thats cool providing I want to connect to the net straight off. If I deselect the default route option I have a hard job consistently controlling the connection by activating/deactivating the Modem Connection. Would there be a better way to connect? I try using kppp but after clicking connect it doesn't really seem to do much. How could I better monitor what is actually going on behind the scenes? Use Synaptic search to install package gnome-ppp. Easy to configure. Let us know if there's any problem. You might have to add a new repository. - Avoid 'Network Settings' except to monitor on/off thereafter, though it's good for NICs Wifi. I Add to Panel (right click on the one at screen top) the Network Monitor System Monitor, to better keep an eye on connection traffic. hth, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: modem
Nick Rout wrote: Those lucent modems are usually pretty easy to get going. What have you tried? Yes, Suse FreeBSD have built-in drivers for it, and no doubt several other distros. For all the hassle of tackling it as is (there's no ready package for Ubuntu, which means research time etc.), your simplest option is to get an external. Always works, savings at upgrade time. hth, rik
Re: modem
Matthew Whiting wrote: I'm going to take my machine back home where I only have dialup internet. Don't know if I can be bothered spending any more time trying to get the Lucent Agere Winmodem working. Anyone have a modem lying around they don't want that would likely be easier to get working with Ubuntu? or alternatively maybe there's someone out there that would enjoy getting my modem working in exchange for some beers or ... ? Here's the instructions, for whoever wants the job: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: BBC tv programme on open source
Nick Rout wrote: the file is 38M and it is at home, I could cut a cd when i get home about 5.00 pm if someone wants to pick it up before the meeting. Save the plastic. I'll collect it on USB stick, after 5, if there's a mover a seconder that we should convene thus this evening.. OK with me. Actually make it after 5.30, my cell phone is 027 220 3169 - Miles has piano lesson 4.30-5.15 in Opawa. Sorry I didn't make it over yesterday Nick. Chris had content organised. If you've got space on your laptop for the 38M, I'll get a copy via USB next time I see you please. Or drop by your work specifically. - Will be having a look at FreeBSD 6.0 asap too, if you'd like copies delivered. Cheers, Rik
Re: BBC tv programme on open source
Nick Rout wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/07/0056245from=rss If anyone wants a copy let me know. It is in realplayer format, but that works fine under linux, realplayer or mplayer or xine all play it. Or I guess I could convert it to mpeg-2 or something else. Yes please, and/or would people like it screened tonight? /hint -- Rik
Re: Java/Javascript [was Re: test .mpg / NZCS Win-OSS]
Hadley Rich wrote: No it wasn't. The last speaker didn't mention it at all (mostly javascript), So there's a difference? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX ? Between Java and Javascript? Yes. hads Where I went wrong was believing Philip Lindsay's AJAX slide had read Asynchronous Java and XML (and I still believe that) - before knowing that this would mean something different. But thanks for the iteration, Rik
Re: test .mpg / NZCS Win-OSS
Nick Rout wrote: Another plug I know, but I can also say that i've only been able to get most media to play since I used gentoo. A noteworthy corollary from last night's NZCS meeting: The hyper-informed Chris Noel (tho unknown to CLUG; I have yet to master an umlaut e in Lnx, sorry), spoke on Mono - as an example project community functioning with Trac client/project management. Chris's quick content-rich presentation broached the Win/OSS divide, identifying compatibility obstacles at the code language level - mainly C#. Obviously an expert, Chris's main success at getting the complex and rapidly developing OSS .Net alternative to work, was based upon Gentoo. Overall, the meeting was _very_ strong on Java. An impression I have come away with is that the Win-OSS segment (which most often selects licensing that allows for closed-source sales), is probably the dominant segment in the FOSS world. If true, that explains a lot about experiences around Linux. Thanks again Nick, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: BUMP [OT] Friday Social
Nick Rout wrote: Just a reminder. On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:56:11 +1300 Jim Cheetham wrote: I declare this Friday (28th) to be a CLUG Social Meeting ... By virtue of the fact that I'm leaving Christchurch to work in Wellington as of Monday! All welcome ... the more the merrier ... So, 5pm onwards at the Twisted Hop. http://www.thetwistedhop.co.nz/mainpages/thelocation.html Three cheers for Jim all he has done for CLUG - wiki, talks, perspective, etc. Thankyou very much Jim. I will try to make it along. My apologies if i don't (other commitments). Cheers, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: test .mpg / NZCS Win-OSS
Carl Cerecke wrote: Overall, the meeting was _very_ strong on Java. No it wasn't. The last speaker didn't mention it at all (mostly javascript), So there's a difference? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX Volker was there. He took notes. He could give a more accurate summary. Further comment withheld, but available upon request. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: test / FreeBSD .mpg
You were right Nick. Nick Rout wrote: It's not my DVD unfortunately. However the file REV_OS_trailer.mpg (18M) is downloadable from here: http://www.revolution-os.com/musicvideo.html I assume it is the same one. Cool, huh :-) mplayer plays it fine. totem plays it fine, using xine I assume. I haven't ever had much luck with gstreamer, never needed it. This is an exercise to see how useable gstreamer (Ubuntu FreeBSD default) can be made to be. The file is a very basic mpeg-1 stream. If a given media player cannot play it, it doesn't deserve that description. I see that gstreamer has many plugins, that all seem to be packaged separately. Maybe there is a gst plugin that you need? I see one in my packaging system called gst-plugins-ffmpeg and another called gst-plugins-mpeg2dec. The latter is described as Libmpeg2 based decoder plug-in for gstreamer. mplayer tells me that it is using libmpeg2 to decode the file, so gstreamer may work if gst-plugins-mpeg2dec is installed. I tried putting in several of the available package extras, starting with that above for libmpeg2 http://libmpeg2.sourceforge.net, which got the picture rolling. It took a while and surprise to find that the audio stream would not become audible without aRts. I have seen this program listed a lot - especially around KDE - without knowing what it was for. By the way here are some tests to determine the codec used: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/media $ file REV_OS_trailer.mpg REV_OS_trailer.mpg: MPEG sequence, v1, system multiplex (that gives a pretty good indication of being an mpeg-1 stream) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/media $ tcprobe -i REV_OS_trailer.mpg [tcprobe] MPEG program stream (PS) (as does that) [tcprobe] summary for REV_OS_trailer.mpg, (*) = not default, 0 = not detected import frame size: -g 352x240 [720x576] (*) aspect ratio: 4:3 (*) frame rate: -f 29.970 [25.000] frc=4 (*) PTS=47721.8588, frame_time=33 ms, bitrate=1150 kbps audio track: -a 0 [0] -e 44100,16,2 [48000,16,2] -n 0x50 [0x2000] (*) bitrate=224 kbps [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/media $ ffmpeg -i REV_OS_trailer.mpg ffmpeg version 0.4.9-pre1, build 4743, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard configuration: --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --enable-shared-pp --enable-shared --disable-static --enable-mmx --disable-altivec --disable-debug --enable-mp3lame --enable-a52 --disable-a52bin --enable-audio-oss --enable-v4l --enable-dv1394 --enable-dc1394 --disable-pthreads --enable-xvid --enable-ogg --enable-vorbis --enable-dts --enable-network --enable-zlib --enable-ffplay --enable-faad --enable-faac --disable-faadbin --enable-gpl --enable-pp --disable-opts built on Sep 30 2005 17:17:47, gcc: 3.3.6 (Gentoo 3.3.6, ssp-3.3.6-1.0, pie-8.7.8) Input #0, mpeg, from 'REV_OS_trailer.mpg': Duration: 00:01:51.9, start: 0.340078, bitrate: 1412 kb/s Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg1video, 352x240, 29.97 fps Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 44100 Hz, stereo, 224 kb/s Must supply at least one output file The point of the exercise is to find out where the most useable given solutions most readily are. With gstreamer as the backend for Totem - out of the box - FreeBSD plays the test mpg Ubuntu doesn't. So you have been helpful in showing what makes the difference, so that Ubuntu's gstreamer can be tweaked up to FreeBSD's delivery standard. Before this, the solution I have found and passed onto others is to install totem-xine package, which displaces totem-gstreamer. Xine is clearly a fully-pledged media player, with all the plugins in place (i've not yet had cause to try media player). The next level of this test is to get both O/Ss to play my LOTR dvd, and discover if i am Free to so do. Currently both totem-gstreamers do not comply. (Errors about 'can't read dvd info' and 'can't determine stream type'.) I'll try more plugins, then probably have to try switching to xine again. Thanks for your input, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Fw: Don't Forget: NZCS Canterbury Presents: Open Source Development Tools and Trends - 27 Oct 2005
Thanks for this Volker. A reminder shared: Volker Kuhlmann wrote: NZCS Canterbury Presents: Open Source Development Tools and Trends Date: 27 October 2005, 5:30 PM - 7:00 PM Venue: Canterbury Innovation Incubator, , Armagh Street, , Christchurch (between Manchester Madras Streets - opposite Centennial Pool) Details: NZCS: Canterbury branch presents: Open Source Development Tools and Trends Open source and open standards software development languages and tools are quickly growing in popularity and adoption in the corporate world. In this session four speakers will discuss new developments and trends in this fast moving area. They will cover open source Java platforms (such as Tomcat, Ant, and Struts), Zope Python, AJAX Google hacking, Trac (an open source project management tool), and Mono (.Net on Linux). The speakers are Paul Roe, The Virtual.Paul's company specialises in custom web application development using Python, on the Zope and Plone platform. David Pugh, Bootstrap IT. David has spent the last 25 years working in the IT sector. Bootstrap develops software solutions that run in highly networked, multi-platform computing environments. They utilise and promote platform-neutral and open-source technologies where appropriate. Chris Noel, Encode. Chris co-runs Encode Ltd, a Christchurch based development house and consultancy focusing on the use of Open Source tools to provide high quality web based solutions. Encode has a strong background in PHP and W3C solutions. In recent times Encode has begun exploring the use of Mono as a means of providing portable desktop applications to aid the management of content presented through its web solutions. Philip Lindsay. Philip is an New Zealand-based independent software developer who developed the Python binding for Gmail. Described by Tim O'Reilly as a troublemaker and one of the key guys who decrypted the arcane structure of the Google Maps interface he now works to make the http://www.openlayers.org interface as un-arcane as possible. This event is a part of the Novell sponsored Emerging Trends series. Refreshments will be provided following conclusion of the presentation. Registration Details: Everyone Welcome. Please use the links below to register. Please note: Cancellations will not be accepted within 48 hours of an event Would you like to pay by invoice? Please note: a 10% administration fee applies on all invoices issued. If you require an invoice, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chch Branch Event - BC510 - I want to pay by invoice and we will arrange it and send it out to you.In your email please include:- Name, profile ID (if available), email address and company name of attendees- Name, email address and postal address of whom to send the invoice to If you have any queries on this or registering using our online credit card facility, please do not hesitate to call National Office on 0800 252 255. We are happy to help. Price: Member Free Staff of Corporate Partner Free Student Member Free Non Member $5.00 incl GST http://www.nzcs.org.nz/tools/events/registration/register.asp?SECT=canterburyID=1000 http://www.nzcs.org.nz/tools/events/multi/step1.asp?SECT=canterburyID=1000 Last time unbooked entry wasn't a problem, and it was an interesting - tho abbreviated - event. See you there. Cheers, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: test / FreeBSD CD mount + .mpg
Andrew Turner wrote: Try mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom The FreeBSD mount will assume you are mounting a UFS file system. When the super block is incorrect it complains. That worked, i can confirm that the FreeBSD 5.4 Totem with Gstreamer does play video clips as packaged, where the Ubuntu 5.04 version did not (until Xine substituted in). Will test Ubuntu 5.10 asap. Later, Rik
Re: test / FreeBSD CD mount
Andrew Turner wrote: Try mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom ah! -t I'll try that again then. Thanks Andrew. The FreeBSD mount will assume you are mounting a UFS file system. When the super block is incorrect it complains. Devices on FreeBSD are automatically created and deleted with devfs. Unless you created a link to another device you won't need to delete anything from /dev Cheers, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
test / FreeBSD CD mount
Hi folks, Is there some reason I am unable to.. P3-600-FreeBSD# mount /dev/acd0 /cdrom/ mount: /dev/acd0 on /cdrom: incorrect super block It's a Linux CD, 2 tried so far. Have been able to play a music CD already, installed from the drive (it's good). Is there a /dev/?(music) to be deleted? Cheers, -- Rik Tindall, InfoHelp Services www.infohelp.co.nz, on: FreeBSD 5.4-Release free O/S, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop, gedit 2.10.0 Mozilla 1.7.7 browser, Evolution 2.2.1.1 Groupware
Fwd: Re: lilo to grub swap + midi
---BeginMessage--- Some final remarks.. On Sat, October 15, 2005 5:33 pm, Nick Rout said: HMMM http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/53/Xandros_Desktop_OS_30_Review.pdf quote Due to the different approaches that Lilo and Grub have, only Lilo allows users to run Udev to set up dynamic device files for hard disks – such as /dev/hda1 – when booting the system. In contrast to Lilo, Grub needs the device file to load the kernel – as Grub cannot find this file, Xandros will not boot with Grub. This can cause issues, if you attempt to specify Xandros as a boot option within a pre-installed distribution that uses Grub. /quote Well that's got me looking further for tips too: # Note that Xandros uses LILO by default and offers # no easy way to install grub. I can only boot into Xandros from a boot # floppy. My advice is don't mix Xandros with grub ;) from: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/12/msg00159.html I can also confirm that the Xandros mkinitrd is indeed modified, from its different manpage: This manual page was written by unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED], for the Debian GNU/Linux system (but may be used by others). June 12, 2002 MKINITRD(8) As a result I suggest installing lilo to the partition that xandros is on, and then chainloading lilo from grub. In this scheme grub starts as usual, and one of its options is xandros. Rather than loading Xandros' kernel, it starts the lilo on /dev/hda9. Rough guide: your grub in xandros is alrady set up to install in the xandros partition, so it will nopt affect grub. there is no grub in xandros, nor a package available. so is this still a starter? That is because of the line: boot /dev/hda9 (refer your email at 9.17 pm yesterday) so boot xandros and then, as root, run /sbin/lilo how do i know my mbr will be safe? then boot back to debian (I think thats where you said grub was based) edit debians grub.conf file to include the following stanza: title Chainload Xandros Lilo rootnoverify (hd0,8) makeactive chainloader +1 That should get xandros' lilo going sounds almost worth a try :-) I was just about ready to recommend Xandros to Ant, because it's the first distro I've seen with timidity ready to roll, out of the box. Plus there's excellent docs explaining how to patch it up for perfect sound out. That just leaves midi sound in to sort out, which may be a snag.. Soundgarden isn't made available as a package, Note: Xandros does not guarantee or support applications installed from sources other than the Xandros distribution site. Applications installed from other sources may cause previously installed applications to stop working correctly. The modified nature of Xandros makes the outcome unpredictable. So before saying any more, I'll test that myself and/or Kubuntu, on a midi-ported box. Unless Nick has Ant working with Gentoo before then. Or Ant might already have it sorted himself. Cheers, Rik ---End Message---
Re: lilo to grub swap + midi
Cheers Nick, Nick Rout wrote: Just thinking on initrd's, as I only use them on one box... The idea of initrd is that it provides a tempoary root directory with stuff you need to complete the boot. It does this in a ram disk. I suspect this is why it cannot find /root - because a needed filesystem module is in the initrd. so try this (cribbed from my machine that uses initrd) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-x1 root=/dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda9 ro acpi=off (thats all one line) As you can probably see that starts the kernel with the ramdisk (/dev/ram0) as root, then later swithes to /dev/hda9 (real_root). Give it a try. Did just that.. Result was that kernel booted through to a root shell prompt in busybox (quickly, i.e. no drivers etc loaded i'd expect). --Help described very little functionality from there though. Thanks, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: lilo to grub swap + midi
Cheers Steve, Steve Holdoway wrote: *never* had to do that on debian or rh! Are you using reiserfs on your boot disk? If so, then if you ever get it to boot, then you'll be real lucky! Try with ext3 and see if that helps. You can try making your own initrd... move the current one out of the way first. cd /boot mv initrd-2.6.9-x1.gz initrd-2.6.9-x1.gz.old mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd-2.6.9-x1.gz 2.6.9-x1 and reboot. Have tried this significant exercise, but there was no changed result. N.B. Curiously, although mkinitrd -o outfile Write to outfile is an option here on Ubuntu, it doesn't exist on Xandros. -k made it work there (iirc), though it did not mean -k Keep temporary directory used to make the image like here. Willing to keep trying more techniques though. Thanks, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: Leaving Chch for Wellington ...
Jim Cheetham wrote: At the end of this month (short notice!) I'll be leaving Christchurch, and moving on to Wellington, to work at Unisys. I don't think that will make much difference to CLUG, because I'll still be here on the mailing lists, and running the wiki ... On Friday 28th of this month, I'll be having a few goodbye drinks at the Twisted Hop, and I hope some of you will be able to join me! [diary marked] -jim Christchurch's loss is Wellington's gain. Sorry to see such an informed *nixer leaving. But good luck in Wellytown Jim. Sounds like an interesting job. All the best, Rik
Re: qemu Wesley
Ralph Stoker wrote: On Wednesday 12 October 2005 00:10, Ross Drummond wrote: Top talk Wesley. Your presentation has enticed me to try it myself. Here, here. Yes, thanks Wesley. After piquing my attantion with the posts prior to the talk I downloaded some relevant info off the web and tried on the night installing the relevant .rpms from the QEMU website and following the Novell:Cool Solutions website 'How To install on SuSE 9.2'...but ran into SDL dependency conflicts when installing via YaST. I noted that the SDL Development toolkit for the latest .7 QEMU release was for i386 architecture as opposed to the older SuSE 9.2 installed i586 SDL toolkit. So I stopped. I then looked and found QEMU .6 already came on my SuSE 9.2 distro (duuh)..so I installed that. As yet I haven't tried loading my Win95 as I am still not sufficiently confident with command line and just how relevant the Gentoo instructions given by Robert / Nick are to my SuSEbut I intend to continue on eventually. Cheers Ralph After seeing how Ralph got on, I promised to check for an Ubuntu package. So quoted from Synaptic: fast processor emulator QEMU is a FAST! processor emulator: currently the package supports arm, powerpc, sparc and x86 emulation. By using dynamic translation it achieves reasonable speed while being easy to port on new host CPUs. QEMU has two operating modes: * User mode emulation: QEMU can launch Linux processes compiled for one CPU on another CPU. * Full system emulation: QEMU emulates a full system, including a processor and various peripherials. It enables easier testing and debugging of system code. It can also be used to provide virtual hosting of several virtual PC on a single server. As QEMU requires no host kernel patches to run, it is very safe and easy to use. - It draws in bochsbios, sharutils vgabios too. Cheers all, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Repost:- == CLUG Meeting Tomorrow October 11 ==
Nick Rout wrote: well do you have any midi devices? It seems not. I did in the tests run last week - Jack / Rosegarden (see posts Fri a.m.; aborted). Did you run the stuff I suggested? aplaymidi -l is a good start. lsmod|grep snd is another. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aplaymidi -l ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory Cannot open sequencer - No such file or directory [Sequencer not running stops Kmidi too.] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod|grep snd snd_ali545123684 2 snd_ac97_codec 74144 1 snd_ali5451 snd_pcm_oss52132 1 snd_mixer_oss 19680 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm94696 3 snd_ali5451,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 25060 1 snd_pcm snd55012 6 snd_ali5451,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 10016 3 snd snd_page_alloc 9732 1 snd_pcm rosegarden does not depend on kde, but it does depend on kdelibs and parts of kdemultimedia. I'd reinstall it / all, to test further.. But it was leaving an un-^C-able (start sequencer) process, so I biffed it. Rik
Re: Repost:- == CLUG Meeting Tomorrow October 11 ==
Anthony Brown wrote: I have a few distro's on CD. I will bring them. It might be best if I come along tomorrow night and just meet the team so you know my face. Maybe discuss a few ideas and setup a time which will be more suitable to tackle the problem. Good idea. And for more perspective, read these: *HOWTO: Getting MIDI to work fully in Ubuntu [hopeful!]* http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 TUX Issue #5 getting other things like voip or midi to work can be a big problem for beginners. I've been in and out of Linux boxes for about 5 years and have never got midi to work right, it was always easier and quicker to run the midi files through a windows system than it was to make it work with Linux. [no comments yet] http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000144 Linux Audio - Midi - Video [what Lance said] http://lyris.spc.int/read/messages?id=42540 etc Cheers, Rik -- InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: MIDI was Repost:-(blah)
All good detail, thanks Nick.
Nick Rout wrote:
Some things you have to remember..
For my part I'm just trying to get midi playback working, as an exercise
halfway towards recommending something that works ('easily') for Ant.
Adding this Ubuntu package for good measure now (TiMidity is installed):
TiMidity++ extra user interfaces
TiMidity++ is a very high quality software-only MIDI sequencer and MOD
player.
This package provides extra TiMidity++ user interfaces, which have
limited functionality when compared to those in the main package.
Interfaces in this package: VT100, Tcl/Tk, Slang, XSkin, GTK2
Cheers, Rik
Re:post:- = CLUG Midi =
Nick Rout wrote: fundamental test: what is now the result of aplaymidi -l I was ready for that one (sort of): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aplaymidi -l PortClient name Port name !!?? I have been having a nice play and understanding more midi. Geekfun :-) Do read my subsequent post [yep] - fundamentally you need EITHER: a synthesiser in your soundcard that has a linux driver; most unlikely (although I've a nice old PCI card I can haul out) OR a hardware port that connects to an external synthesiser (most likely through your soundcard's joystick port) and a driver for the port; OR none on lappie a soft synthesiser like timidity or fluidsynth. I have both installed now Cheers, rik (OT: that was quite a qu/sh-ake - where?..)
Re: Midi / CLUG
Nick Rout wrote: [midi blah blah music blah blah ports blah blah] Yes, I got some play out of Kmid on Ubuntu in the end, using Fluidsynth an .sf2 soundfont to compensate for onboard sound limits. So there are some ready install options. See you there. Does Wesley require data projection (untested)?
Re: Midi / CLUG
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Does Wesley require data projection (un[=pre]tested)? Yes, using my ThinkPad. No worries. See you @7.20 then -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Repost:- == CLUG Meeting Tomorrow October 11 ==
Steve Holdoway wrote: I've just spent 30 minutes on the Ubuntu site looking for minimum hardware requirements, but failed. I'm worried about running a realtime applicationunder kde on this hardware may be asking a bit much? I hadn't realised KDE needs more resources than Gnome. Sounds like Ant would struggle to use WinXX much the same. CLI programs / nix deep-end the only option on this hardware? Rik -- InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: What to do with an old mac
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Nothing like letting off some aggro for the right cause... :) How about making a macquarium? I've got a couple of *really* old Macs I'd like to do this to. Not bad. Just remember not to plug in the power cord... Adding to the range of options.. Mac Udder Side Park http://www.storm.ca/%7Erbutton/macuddersidepark
Re: Setting up Audio on Redhat-CCRMA
Thanks Nick, This is exactly what we needed. Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, October 6, 2005 5:41 pm, Richard Tindall said: [ a whole lot of stuff about linux audio, redhat. planet ccrma etc] Sorry to do the major snip Rik, It's most often appropriate, vs repetition. just to summarise: Ant has Redhat, with Planet CCRMA audiospecialist rpm's installed over the top. He has had update and config problems. IMHO RH is too old to start with. Agreed. Planet CCRMA is also compiled for Redhat's successors, Fedora Core 1, 2 3. According to the website it is being updated for Fedora 4. Good news. If Ant is in a hurry and absolutely wants to use CCRMA, I suggest he backs up his data and installs FC3, then the CCRMA stuff. If he is more patient he could wait for CCRMA to catch up to FC4 and start from there. It's a blank, dedicated recording box: P2-400 iirc. The BIOS only reads 2GB of the 4GB hard drive, he wants to put a 10GB drive in there. Will that BIOS be updateable? I hate to push the barrow all the time, and you cynics can take a yawn and hit the kill button now, but I have found gentoo reasonably good for audio stuff. The idea of CCRMA is, of course, to compile some specialist apps and the kernel with specific sound oriented options for low latency, jack audio and so forth. This specialist compilation is what gentoo excels at. Great! I'll have a sniff round Gentoo see what I can upspeed on. However whatever approach is taken, getting professional audio going on linux is a real chore. Many pros give up and go back to windows or a mac. That's why I'm recommending vanilla midi throughput recording, on anynix, as a starting point. Beyond that, his synth isn't present in Rosegarden's config list range, so I'd be searching for the best s/w capable of matching that unit, working back from there. You also mentioned 128 MB of RAM, I assume thats what Ant has. It's likely the whole machine is underpowered. If he wants pro audio its likely he needs more ram, and a well supported sound card. I agree, but he has the good system in the office for Win/work, the sound studio in the garage. Ex-lease 1GHz+ stuff is _really_ cheap now - I'd go that way, with a workable modem extra RAM thrown in, from the Computer Broker. Ant's Ensoniq soundcard seems pretty good tho. Please also note that there are a set of very good linux audio articles on www.linuxjournal.com, by Dave Phillips. Well worth a read! Cool. Ant will be reading these posts, to inform his choices. He cannot be with us until 9pm next Tuesday, which won't leave us enough time to do much that night. There's a little lugging involved to get the system to us too, so further service calls is an equal option. The best call might be for Ant to (go shopping, if possible, and) attend the next Gentoofest. When is it Rob? And thanks for your tips too Steve. Cheers hth, Rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Setting up Audio on Redhat-CCRMA
Nick Rout wrote: No need to update the bios usually. The linux kernel deals with the hard drive, the bios is only involved in the boot sequence. Once it hands off to the kernel, all is sweet. HOWEVER I would make a /boot partition at the start of the drive to ensure that the kernel and grub are always within reach of what the bios can see. $df -h agrees with bios 'autodetect hdd', that 2GB is all he gets. Practically, how recently have you seen /boot lost by a bios? Is 200MB enough, to allow for some kernel variant options? Rosegarden should just work once you have the midi hardware going. Its a while since I did it and i have rebuilt my desktop. I'll fire up the laptop later, i had it playing our electric piano at one stage. I don't think there should be any compatibility list, as midi is just midi AFAIK. That's what I expected. Rosegarden was running, but we couldn't pick anything up off the midi port (on the soundcard). Jack was showing plenty of relevant connections - mostly we're still mastering the s/w. Perhaps it's ready to be made to run; lsmod looked pretty good. Is he doing midi through a midi port on the soundcard yes or does he have a separate midi port? I have a usb midiman single port midi interface for the laptop (http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Uno-main.html). The alsa pages should indicate whether there is midi support for his soundcard (http://alsa-project.org great links etc: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Ensoniqcard=.chip=ES1371%2C+ES1372%2C+ES1373%2C+CT5880+%28ES1373%29module=ens1371 (iirc) + http://sound.condorow.net the next Gentoofest. I can answer that, not until November unfortunately I have other commitments and Rob has a fence to build before he is allowed to play. Cheers. I might try him on Ubuntu in the meantime then. The packages list there is good, and I have Rosegarden running on it now. But no sound output yet: Rosegarden 1.0 - AlsaDriver - alsa-lib version 1.0.8 JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running How's that started? (Ant had a menu icon for it.) Cheers, Rik
Re: Setting up Audio on Redhat-CCRMA
Anthony Brown wrote: Hi, Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming support. I will definately check out a different distribution for what I am doing, I didn't realise redhat was old hat. Here is a link to the synth I am using: http://www.novationmusic.com/product.asp?id=13Type=1bArchive= Nice one. I don't have to use CCRMA, it was just something I came across that I thought might help me, more than hinder me. Also I'm not a very patient man, so I will try one of these distributions I have downloaded recently. I got: Debian, Knoppix, Gentoo, Ubunto, dynebolic, demudi and fedora 4. Not sure what one to start with. Demudi is another specialised one for audio (http://www.agnula.org/) But after using CCRMA I'm not sure if I can trust it. Useful comments / stuff re Ubuntu etc: This is my third Ubuntu install now, before that I ran RH9. One of the main reasons I switched to Ubuntu was because I wanted a distro with 2.6 kernel with proper package management. At the time, there were 2 realistic options; Gentoo and Ubuntu. Gentoo seemed to be too much of a fuss. The breezy preview installed pretty smoothly. The majority of the work however comes after the install. I keep an install log to make it easier to tweak the install to my liking. I took out my soundcard in favor of the one that's on the mainboard. I found that the MIDI device was not detected properly 'out of the box'; because of this, amidi --dump did not find the default MIDI device. This was solved after making a symbolic link (ln -s midiC1D0 midiC0D0). No big thing here; by what I could tell this behaviour was present in the previous release as well. From: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/26/0333248tid=90tid=106 Also: http://lurker.agnula.org/message/20050916.113201.915538b7.en.html http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/herefordshire/2005-August/001122.html http://madpenguin.org/cms/html/47/5145.html (5.10 review) I'll repost if I manage to get any midi sound out of Ubuntu. I will post again once I have another distribution installed. Cool. Thanks again for all the help, :Ant That's what we're here for. Good luck, Rik
Re: Setting up Audio on Redhat-CCRMA
Robert Fisher wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:16, /. wrote: One of the main reasons I switched to Ubuntu was because I wanted a distro with 2.6 kernel with proper package management. At the time, there were 2 realistic options; Gentoo and Ubuntu. Gentoo seemed to be too much of a fuss. I do not understand why you narrow it down to only two distros for those two criteria. IMHO there are several others which satisfy them. It's a quote from someone else, not-imho. But progress: Rosegarden 1.0 - AlsaDriver - alsa-lib version 1.0.8 JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK sample rate = 44100Hz, buffer size = 2048 JackDriver::initialiseAudio - creating disk thread JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 2 JACK physical outputs JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from rosegarden:master out L to alsa_pcm:playback_1 JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from rosegarden:master out R to alsa_pcm:playback_2 JackDriver::initialiseAudio - found 2 JACK physical inputs JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from alsa_pcm:capture_1 to rosegarden:record in 1 L JackDriver::initialiseAudio - connecting from alsa_pcm:capture_2 to rosegarden:record in 1 R JackDriver::initialiseAudio - initialised JACK audio subsystem ALSA Client information: Current timer set to PCM playback 0-0-0 AlsaDriver::initialiseMidi - initialised MIDI subsystem Current timer set to PCM playback 0-0-0 Creating device 1 in Play mode -- no connection available Default device name for this device is Anonymous MIDI device 1 + Alert: JACK Audio subsystem is losing sample frames when playing a .mid file. -- FreeNix!
Re: Setting up Audio on Redhat-CCRMA
There must be a lesson in here for us all..
Steve Holdoway wrote:
RedHat is pretty long in the tooth now... although the CentOS offerings of
RHEL are fine. However, if you're using apt to install, it may be a better
idea to use a debian-based distro.
I'm struggling with the logic of the particular situation Ant faced
getting started with midi support.
How is it http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/ are providing
an apt kernel install system for RedHat? Has that come from a
half-informed approach to Linux, or do they set out to break ('modify')
the O/S intentionally?
From what I've learned in just a few years, adding apt would be a
pretty risky way to deal with an rpm-built system, because the original
package log will thereafter be compromised. Am I correct in likening
this kernel update method to installing a log-burner in your house by
using a bulldozer? Steve has pointed to where apt is already used, and
safer, but ccrma's kernel is for RH/Fedora only.
Ah.., http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net says Apt4rpm.. Analyzes the rpm
packages in the rpm repository and creates a unified rpm package name.
This mechanism uses caching to speed up the creation of subsequent
created apt, yum or metadata repositories. The rpm name, version and
architecture are stored seperately in the cache. This makes it possible
to easily search for 1 particular rpm throughout the whole apt
repository. ..So that means it's a permanent upgrade to the RedHat
packaging system, which it breaks? Empowering for geeks but scary for
newbies, who lose the ability to point, click install software
consistently from rpm icons thereafter.
I am happy to stand corrected. But until then I will share my
rudimentary gleaning for all those seeking to follow the snow-swept
mountain pass thru to Linuxville:
New User Rule #1:
For extended useability of your Linux platform, maintain the integrity
of your chosen distribution[2]'s packaging subsystem _at all costs_.
2. The packaging subsystem you must stick with therefore has high
priority in making your choice of distro, alongside range of software
available for it, and speedy availability of the latest upgrades, etc.
[The last two aspects are not important for my pedestrian computing
needs, whereas system stability is, on top of ease of software addition
update. - Just so people know how I've reached my post-newbie distro
choice (Ubuntu).]
To conclude, Lance has echoed Robert in misattributing Slashdot talk to
me (by stripping the quote marks), and confusing the packaging system
choice with narrowness about distros. This explains why, despite wanting
to disagree, Lance has recommended some apt-based distros, as do I (for
non-experts).
/pedantry/vocalmode
hth,
Rik
Re: Totem-xine - success!
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:17:28 +1300 Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:10, Douglas Royds wrote: Microshaft's grip on my hard-drive is starting to look tenuous. Happy, happy. Douglas. I'm glad the workshops have a point, Douglas. :) There's no harm in distro sub-groups forming, to pool deepen OS knowledge. The more there are, the better they work, the more effective our software movement is at delivering the necessary user support overall. So whereas friendly inter-distro rivalries may rankle some, the bigger picture is more options for newbies to find something ( a group) that works for them. Report: Despite the fact that bumping the trolley my AMD box is on locks Ubuntu's Gnome solid (as happened under RedHat 9 too) - as many as three times per session if done soon after boot :-/ (stabler having run a few minutes) - I'll stick with it. Ubuntu is rock-solid on my P4, that's a laptop - no lock ups at all. The ease-of-update negates any pain. It just gives the impression of clean simplicity, having less that can go wrong (than the flasher KDE, which has more to learn from the beginning - my limited experience only). New Ubuntu release out this month :-) My son suggested that I try VLC ( http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ ) when one of his downloaded movies did not seem to play on any of my players. It worked a treat and seems to play anything I can throw at it. xine, mplayer and vlc seem to form the basis of all other linux video playing software. As far as I can tell they will all play pretty much anything you throw at them PROVIDED they are compiled and installed properly, with suport for the codecs and formats you want to play. Apparently gstreamer has been overhauled in the new Gnome, so switching Totem to xine may become redundant. Prompted by Douglas, I've got Totem playing clips properly too now. It involved adding some non-default mpeg libraries/plugins, one of which brought the success. Cheers, Rik
Re: Gnome dial-up
Douglas Royds wrote: I have had great success with gnome-ppp. If you're using dial-up under Gnome, forget about the modem-dialer panel applet (it consumes some 10% processor time on my machine all the time, whether connected or not), and install gnome-ppp instead. [I immediately recovered 5% CPU load - nice bonus.] Gnome-ppp is a GUI for wvdial. Run it, type in a phone number and password, click on connect, and everything leaps into life. Couldn't be easier. Douglas. Champion, Douglas. You've saved me 2-4+ minutes connection setup on every single workday. :-) I'd heard of http://www.gnome-ppp.org , but never got to the point of installing it. - Just shows what an inspiration joint work can be. Cheers, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Totem-xine - success!
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:11:36 +1300 Richard Tindall wrote: Report: Despite the fact that bumping the trolley my AMD box is on locks Ubuntu's Gnome solid sounds like a hardware fault! like a loose connection or something. Could be, but a Real Expert (tm) built this box ;-) Dual case fans - noisy, but reassuring. It's never been opened since construction for Fest-2002, never locked up under Mandrake, Suse or Win2K - in the years ago those partitions got used. Looks more like some obscure bug with AMD-Gnome/X-mouse-hdd sensitivity, from the outside, with xscreensaver perhaps implicated too. Running Linux has a price (usually multiple sacrifices), imho, one has to simply be ready to pay it. The majority are probably too pushed for the requisite time. I'll just put up with this fault, awaiting manna from (developer) heaven. The system mostly works, like now. But thanks for the tip. Cheers, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: Totem-xine - success!
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:11:36 +1300 Richard Tindall wrote: Report: Despite the fact that bumping the trolley my AMD box is on locks Ubuntu's Gnome solid sounds like a hardware fault! like a loose connection or something. P.S. Dale has similar on his AMD - Gnome on FreeBSD. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: Setting up Audio on Redhat-CCRMA
Howdy all. I checked with Ant offlist, to make sure someone had, and went around yesterday to see what I could do to help him out. Ant's a programmer, with a CPIT degree, earning from PHP. Brand new to Linux, but a most worthy convert. Status: Anthony Brown wrote: Hello All, This is my first email to you, my name is Ant by the way. I would like to know who could help me setup my computer for music production? software installed: Redhat with Planet-CCRMA kernel, The above is enhanced for midi processing, installed as per instrustions, running well.. Ardour, Rosegarden4, Jack These too are good quality studio free/openware, running well but subject to limited RAM (128MB) so can crash given work. Driver modules for the sound card all look correct, with the midi port picked up by the s/w. We had sound in from mic socket out of spkrs, so it's a software problem rather than hardware. I can get sound to work, but need some help with getting the programs to do what I want... Manuals have been read, so I know what can be done and sort of how to do it, but I get stuck in some places... Diagnosis: RedHat9 had been modified, as per instructions, but the expertise for final tweaks is absent / OS damaged.. The kernel upgrade packaging used apt-get, and seems to have broken the RH packaging subsystem. Installing any more packages is problematic, because RH is now complaining about missing libraries not offering up how to find them - e.g. MC unobtainable at present. The original libraries could have been replaced, it seems. If it sounds like I know what I am talking about, then I am sorry.. I don't. All I can offer is $50 and a couple of beers to someone who can come over for 2-3 hours and help me get this going. Apologies if the email is too long, Take Care :Ant Solution: Reinstall is probably the simplest option. To enhance this we need to find someone here onlist who has ever connected a sythesiser/keyboard through a midi port under Linux, please. And what distro did you use? Midi seems to be a common enough function, and I'd recommend using the simplest s/w most uptodate OS possible, to get it going in test mode, before considering more specialist combinations. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005 - Anyone worked with Zend? Ant could easily be persuaded to dual-boot his main PC, or may be already. Then he'd have still more Anti-Virus security. :-) hth, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.12 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Totem-xine - success!
Steve Holdoway wrote: I think I might start with reseating the power connections and cpu? I'll switch off the system, which runs for hours on end most days quite happily, consider these.. Reboot _always_ works; hdd has never looked like it's lost power once. CPU is at its coldest when the mouse-touch or heavy foot takes the system down; CPU keeps running once 'hot'. A more solid desk looks like the obvious fix. Cheers, Rik
Reminder: GNU/Linux User support 5/10/5; + BSD
Greetings people, Tonight there is a GNU/Linux User support workshop: 7.30pm, Wednesday October 5th, Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Sydenham. These sessions are pitched at beginners, with QA plus install and repair help, but also a regular social event for the FOSS community. There is a light supper, with all costs met through donations. We likely have at least one full newbie install on our hands. Any unfinished tasks will be referred on to next Tuesday :-) Let us know if you're bringing a system in. We have a few install live CDs available, but if you need a specific distro, please ask. For those that are interested, it would also be timely to review plans and experience for next year's Software Freedom Day. Thanks to everyone who helped out on the 10th, and I hope you liked the Press coverage. Regards, Rik Tindall -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz plus Early notice: Next month, Weds November 2nd, is a *BSD night*. Dale DuRose, whom we've met through SFD, is going to guide us through a FreeBSD install and feature show. An experienced user of several years, local BSD fans might like to meet Dale tonight, and help construct next month's content. We can also start discussion of the options of forming a BSD user group, or expanding the present meeting series to explicitly offer BSD support under a FreeNix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenix banner. Cheers c u there, Rik
Re: rpms
Philip Charles wrote: Unfortunately Mandrake was named after the magican (Lothar was not included) and not the plant. Hurst owns the magican. More info @ CLUG http://clemsonlinux.org/article.php/20050407180611827 Seriously! :) - Rik
GNU/Linux User support 5/10/5
Greetings, One week from tonight is the next GNU/Linux User workshop: 7.30pm, Wednesday October 5th, Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Sydenham. These sessions are pitched at beginners, with QA plus install and repair help, but also a regular social event for the FOSS community. There is a light supper, with all costs met through donations. Let us know if you're bringing a system in. We have a few install live CDs available, but if you need a specific distro, please ask. For those that are interested, it would also be timely to review plans and experience for next year's Software Freedom Day. Thanks to everyone who helped out on the 10th, and I hope you liked the Press coverage. Regards, Rik Tindall -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: rpms
Steve Holdoway wrote: RedHat, Fedora, Mandriva, SuSE... can anyone think of any other x86 distros that use them? BLAG has always piqued my curiosity: http://www.blagblagblag.org - FC3. Brixton must be an area you'd know well too. My first-ever Tube ride finished there. Does anyone use Yellow Dog? Yet to try that too. Cheers, Steve hth, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: rpms
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:22:40 +1200 Richard Tindall wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote: RedHat, Fedora, Mandriva, SuSE... can anyone think of any other x86 distros that use them? BLAG http://www.blagblagblag.org it actually looks damned cool. if i was still in my distro junky phase i would try it! These components look well worth an explore too: http://freenx.berlios.de http://nomachine.com Anyone tried them? Are they like LTSP? -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: rpms
Steve Holdoway wrote: Was a bit confused, as they seem to advocate the use of apt for package management. As long as it works, it might be the best of both worlds? Anyway, we're all the wrong colour to walk those streets safely any more! Ah yes, Railton Road. Got chased once for my souvenir recording of the sales spiel down there! Interesting, not so touristy. Mid-1981 was equally lively on several NZ streets. Cheers, Steve Do you get music by the Clash as well ( best punk album ever - side 2, track 3 I think )??? dives for the vinyl collection.. What is a Protex Blue anyway? I think I can guess! Ah, nostalgia.. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: rpms
Steve Holdoway wrote: Do you get music by the Clash as well ( best punk album ever - side 2, track 3 I think )??? Last track side 2? Garageland (album 1) dives for the vinyl collection.. What is a Protex Blue anyway? I think I can guess! Correct! ( wasn't that on the first album? ) Yes. What's the song then? (save me searching for album 2). Ah, nostalgia.. ain't what it used to be (: self-inflicted memory loss - a passing phase (:
Re: making html photo album
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions, One more for good measure: Photo Gallery Generator http://tom4.hyperlink.cz/software.php?mylang=en#pgg http://tom4.hyperlink.cz/software.php?mylang=en#d2h - Rik
Re: Installfest
Douglas Royds wrote: What has attendance been like at the GLU meetings? Regrettably I haven't been able to attend any (yet). It's steady now. About half of CLUG's. That's contributory to being able to settle down to specific tasks, as they crop up, as a group. c15 is supposed to be a 'magic number', beyond which group dynamics shift to needing some higher level of organisation. Things do seem to work more simply with the smaller group. How many people at the last GLU meeting? 12 How many desktop PCs? How many laptops? One of each would be typical, plus a demo system or two. Can anyone that has attended these meetings take a stab at some numbers? We're flexible with content format, such that it's decided by what people show up with. We've looked at Puppy Linux releases twice, and although it does have a good modem configurator, this didn't resolve the issue for someone at the time. The workshop did get a result in the end though (PCMCIA-Debian). hth, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: Installfest
Robert Fisher wrote: Nick Rout wrote: Perhaps we need to advertise them to the general public and move them to (say) a saturday. Then they will have to cost people (hall hire, advertising in the Press etc.) Can I ask if people on this list who started with an Installfest can comment on their own experience? How much do you want? (allowing others' comments precedence over mine..) - there's that danged apostrophe! ;-) -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 21:23 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: the're ? Yes, indeed! They're is the trans-atlantic patois form. Anyway that's what I was taught at school all those years ago. Interesting, here is me thinking you had made a pselling mistake. They are / them are = the're - a non-specific generalisation, rarely used. - derived from grrr. :-) -- FreeNix!
Re: [OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:54:49 +1200 Michael JasonSmith wrote: y favourite grammar question annoys many wingers: what is a person from Canterbury called? One-eyed? He tangata o Waitaha. And if you can't accept an Official Language, go to hell. C/C++ -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: The Six Dumbest ideas in Computer Security
Thanks,.. Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, This is really good reading. ..it is. http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/ Derek Did anyone not check out http://www.ranum.com ? Cheers, Rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Seeing as Derek started a day for reposting slashdot links...
Nick Rout wrote: ...and following from Chris referring us all to NerdTV Here is a site that lists Techie TV shows available for download. http://www.filefarmer.com/techshows/ Goodbye bandwidth, hello new hard drive! Any chance of screening the most interesting stuff for CLUG, on a regular basis? Or maybe a monthly video-CD people can obtain? (assuming it's all open/free.) Cheers, Rik
Re: X problem with cloned screen
Robert Fisher wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:15, Nick Rout wrote xrandr? Perfect. Worked a treat. Thanks Nick. xrandr -q then xrandr -s 1 Cool. That's gonna be an asset sorting out projector issues in future :-) .. Cheers, Rik
Saturday FOSS outreach
Hi folks, Anyone with an hour free tomorrow is welcome to add to our tutor base for Software Freedom Day http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 2. 'Meet the public', answering questions guiding them thru the official Open/live-CD (free souvenirs available). Location etc details are here: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/sfd2.html Cheers, Rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Govt. funding for Linux servers in small schools
Robert Fisher wrote: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/NL/23F818BDD861352CCC257074001D14CB Further: School funding doesn't please all http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3399513a28,00.html Digital Opportunities falls short of ideal http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3399509a28,00.html Software woes knock MED offline http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3399508a28,00.html http://www.schooltool.org (ex Press) -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Spamassassin
Ralph Stoker wrote: have I missed something obvious?? Mozilla - Mail / Thunderbird - have great spam filtering built in now. You train it, and it works. Very occasionally a wanted mail will get filtered out to Junk (or wherever you choose), and needs to be watched for. Otherwise, highly recommended, should want to review extra options. hth, rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Spamassassin
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Mozilla - Mail / Thunderbird - have great spam filtering built in now. You train it, and it works. Very occasionally a wanted mail will get filtered out to Junk (or wherever you choose), and needs to be watched for. Otherwise, highly recommended, should [you] want to review extra options. And how does this answer the question of how to make kmail and spamassassin work? And how does yours? - Have a go, please :-) Rik
Re: Debian Floppies
Subject: Re: Debian Floppies From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:30:44 +1200 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en http://archive.progeny.com/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/ you wil need between 2 and four images depending what you are trying to achieve. you need boot and root as a minimum, then cd-drivers or net-drivers depending where you want to go from there. Thanks for these links Nick. We are downloading / following instructions now. 12 present. Cheers, Rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: OpenSuse 10 beta
Julian Visch wrote: On Thursday 01 September 2005 20:25, you wrote: Not personally but a guy from our It department who I introduced Linux to, downloaded and said he was impressed but could see why it was beta with Gnome not behaving right. Has anyone had Gnome working well with SuSE? When I tried (9.1), it seemed to be lacking some parts by default - gtk perhaps (desktop items weren't fully drawn). I.e. a bit of tweaking may still be required, to get Gnome going on SuSE. - Rik
Re: ICT Leader's Debate - tonight
Craig FALCONER wrote: In case some of you don't get this. snips The event is 7pm to 9pm on Thursday 1 September 2005 and will be carried by R2.co.nz using anycast routing. This means that ISPs not peering at APE, WIX or PNIX will receive the traffic from our US server. If you require assistance with peering, please contact Andy Linton at CityLink. Anyone have a fast, portable network link, to feed the debate stream into the Sudenham hall? -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Reminder: Free Software Support tonite
Richard Tindall wrote: Hi people. Tonight there's a GNU/Linux Users workshop: 7.30pm, Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Sydenham. Theme: Linux Beginners QA + install help (CDs available). The workshop is open to everyone, and caters to elementary questions and setup issues, guided by demand. So everyone is welcome, to ask and contribute what they like, and for a cuppa and chat around our favourite OS. If you wish to bring a computer along, please let us know. There's planty of room, and a phone line for dialout tests info. We ask a $2 donation towards costs. This workshop is the last before Software Freedom Day http://www.softwarefreedomday.org, Saturday 10 Sept, should you wish to get involved. We still have some flyers to give out, and any number of volunteer tutors would be welcome on the day. We're hoping for a goodly turnout for this foss promotion event. Keep an eye out for our Press ad in Technology from next week: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/pressad . Feel free to print this off hang it up at work, your local supermarket and library, etc, etc. Better poster versions are here: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/sfd2 + http://www.infohelp.co.nz/docs/SFDFlyer0.pdf (A5) + http://www.infohelp.co.nz/docs/SFDFlyer6.pdf (A4). Thanks for any help you might like to offer, and see you next week, Rik We have requests for some Ubuntu administration tips, including partitioning and backups. Also, help with getting a laptop online. Room for more. I hope you can make it along. Software Freedom Day draws near. Cheers, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: ICT Leader's Debate - tonight
Nick Rout wrote: the data for a tow hour show from the US will be at considerable cost, unless you happen to have an ISP that peers at the right place. Kinda ironic that the debate is about the state of NZ's IT infrastructure yet most of NZ will not thave the bandwidth to watch it. True. Is anybody watching it able to record it please, for screening at St Albans next Tuesday perhaps? - an unfortunate timetable clash. Cheers, Rik
Re: Debian Floppies
Joshua Collins wrote: On a related note would someone be able to burn (what's the correct floppy equivalent of that?) the two debian floppy images to floppy for me tonight? Woud be much appreciated just tell me what you'd like to do trade for. --Slosh If Slosh or someone knows exactly where to get the desired images online, and Slosh brings the disks, we can use dialup to do stuff like this on the spot. E.g. any laptop Winmodem drivers required too. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Debian Floppies
Joshua Collins wrote: On 9/1/05, *Nick Rout* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is your aim? what is your reason for choosing floppies? generally they are the last choice after all the others. sometimes though they really are the only way. but don't ask to use the same one in a month or two, it'll be corrupted. and out of date, and mislabelled, and lost. or is that just me? No, they really are outdated tech, now we have cheap USB memory sticks. Except.. I have a PC which is totally blank and I need some sort of starting point, this seemed the most obvious. So I decided the next best thing (and I got some advice from someone else, credit where credit's due and all that) would be to try and get a floppy installation. It's hooked upto the net so once that's working it shouldn't be a problem. It's just the first step that's keeping me back. Hopefully that makes sense. Yep. I have found Slackware very good in such situations. - Found a use for a 486 that way (tho not for long ;). -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Value Added Vendors or software system integrators?
John Veitch wrote: ...strong knowledge and expertise in UNIX, Linux, and open source technologies. Whether you're using MySQL, MS-SQLServer, Informix, or Oracle, we know database technologies inside out. Thanks for that John. My mistake. Looks like you've been doing some travelling. The software uses data recognition engines and data base products from several suppliers. There is extensive need for skilled manual support by trained people. Contracts probably begin at $10,000. Cheers, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Free Software Support 1/9/5
Hi people. A week tonight - next Thursday, September 1st - is the next GNU/Linux Users workshop: 7.30pm, Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Sydenham. Theme: Linux Beginners QA + install help (CDs available). The workshop is open to everyone, and caters to elementary questions and setup issues, guided by demand. So everyone is welcome, to ask and contribute what they like, and for a cuppa and chat around our favourite OS. If you wish to bring a computer along, please let us know. There's planty of room, and a phone line for dialout tests info. We ask a $2 donation towards hall costs. This workshop is the last before Software Freedom Day http://www.softwarefreedomday.org, Saturday 10 Sept, should you wish to get involved. We still have some flyers to give out, and any number of volunteer tutors would be welcome on the day. We're hoping for a goodly turnout for this foss promotion event. Keep an eye out for our Press ad in Technology from next week: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/pressad . Feel free to print this off hang it up at work, your local supermarket and library, etc, etc. Better poster versions are here: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/sfd2 + http://www.infohelp.co.nz/docs/SFDFlyer0.pdf (A5) + http://www.infohelp.co.nz/docs/SFDFlyer6.pdf (A4). Thanks for any help you might like to offer, and see you next week, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Value Added Vendors or software system integrators?
??? - O f T John Veitch wrote: This is a significant opportunity for the right people. So the question is an I find those people? http://www.ideatechnosoft.com/ From site: FULLY WRITTEN IN .NET So my question to you is this? Who should I be talking too? - The .NET user group here in Chch, most likely. - Nothing to do with FOSS !?!? And your Reply-To is set wrong for posting here too.. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Looking for recommendations for a good value laser printer
Jason Greenwood wrote: We use a Brother HL5040 at our office - it's been a GREAT workhorse. I refill the toner myself and haven't replaced a drum yet (supposed to have about 5000 copies ago =) Works well via USB under Linux yada yada. Craig FALCONER wrote: Its Brother - avoid like the plague it is. snip -Original Message- From: Ken.McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 1:43 p.m. Subject: Re: Looking for recommendations for a good value laser printer snip Brother HL2040 from Bond Bond, Riccarton Mall recently. 600 dpi, claimed 20 ppm, toner and drum replaced separately ($70 for 2500 copies and $200 for 12 000 copies). Parallel and USB. I have an old Brother HL-730 working well with GNU/Linux too (parallel). Sewing machine twice-removed.. - Rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Crazy linux.jetstreamgames and suse 9.3 install
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 08:45 +1200, Carl Cerecke wrote: I tried to do a network install of Suse9.3 last night, pointing it at linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz. However, the network install wanted an IP address, not a name. This is where it gets strange. linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz has no (publically available) IP address. Are these any help?: ftp://ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz/dist/suse/ ftp://203.96.92.95/ (for Debian) -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Debian Sarge GNU/Linux freeOS, 2.6.11-1-686 kernel, GNOME 2.8.3 desktop Mozilla 1.7.7 browser, Evolution 2.0.3 groupware, OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 GIMP 2.2.6 graphics, Quanta+3.3.2 web-dev-env, gFTP 2.0.18 filetransfer
Re: Ubuntu CDs
Roy Britten wrote: Ubuntu 5.04 CDs.. Anyone have any more I could snaffle and share around? I've just ordered 100. I hope they send me 5.10 though. Going by the forums they could take awhile, and there's no prominent news about 5.10 either. Benjamin Mako Hill http://mako.cc/talks/20050728-fork_or_not_to_fork/html_slides/img3.html has (temporarily?) left Canonical for MIT. - Seems like the commercial pressure is applying evenly across the O-S/Linux world.. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Looking for Rick, the Linux guy with the it support business ot
Shane wrote: Sorry for the ot post but wanting to get hold of Rick who sat next to me at the Gentto install fest at the a couple of months ago. He runs a mobile it support business. If you could phone me on 964 8988 today or else 021 465547 that would be appreciated. Will be at the land line after 10am. Alternatively, anyone know his phone number? shane at nunz dot co dot nz would get to me. Cheers, Shane Have got the message, thanks Shane list. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: UNSUBSCRIBE LINUX-USERS
Robert Bernard wrote: UNSUBSCRIBE LINUX-USERS Hey Bob!! What happened to Mepis? Don't give up too soon!!! -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz
Re: Gentoo mini-installfest
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Judging by the response so far I have the feeling that there is not much interest. I'd be keen on spending a dedicated day studying and updating my Gentoo install, with the experts around (I use Ubuntu by default). Just not 10 Sept please. Thanks for the host offer Rob. Cheers, Rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz
OT: ski pass
Hi all, I have a one-day ski-lift pass for Porter Heights, 2005 season, that I won't be using. Anyone interested? - contact offlist please. Cheers, Rik -- FreeNix! ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org ~ GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org ~ InfoHelp ~ http://www.infohelp.co.nz ~
Re: Meeting tonight
Roy Britten wrote: Thanks to all the participants for their work on Tuesday. Some food for thought there. Any chance of getting the presentations on the Wiki (at http://clug.net.nz/index.php/PreviousPresentations I guess). Yes, it was really interesting. Someones mucked up the meeting record already though. Would be good to see the notes again. Cheers, Rik -- GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org
Re: Meeting tonight
Glynn Foster wrote: CS: How do other list members feel about this earlier starting time? Not keen, but flexible. That would be preferable to me - I'm usually need to be in a conf call at 9pm on Tuesdays during the winter. It feels a bit rude to show up for just 30-40 minutes, especially if those 30 minutes are just people playing around trying to get the projector working :) It was condensation inside of the lens, and dried out within 10. Nick started us at 7.40pm, as I recall. Glad you could make it Glynn. Cheers, especially to our great and intelligent speakers. A fascinating night. -Rik -- GNU/Linux Users ~ http://www.hackstop.org ~ http://www.softwarefreedomday.org
Re: Forthcoming IT Related Events in the Canterbury Region
Zane Gilmore wrote: Courtesy of our friendly neighbourhood Computer Society http://www.nzcs.org.nz/SITE_Default/branches/SITE_canterbury/itevents.asp Well done guys. :-) Looking forward, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: meal
Ross Drummond wrote: I will be dinning in the restaurant of the Caledonian Hotel prior to this evenings meeting. Annyone who wishes to join me from 6:40PM is very welcome. To avoid the problem from our last meal where two groups of LUG'ers were seated in different parts of the restaurant out of view of each other, please tell the receptionist that you are part of the LUG group. Cheers Ross Drummond I shall be dining even more remotely, because if I don't park at the hall early enough, someone always grabs the park by the back door, making it more of a trugde to get the projector/screen in and out again. Apologies, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-686 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 suite, Mozilla 1.7.10 browser + Firefox 1.0.6 Thunderbird 1.0.2 email, Gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 filexfer
Re: Calling all Rik's
Nick Rout wrote: Can you do the projector thing at St Albans next Tuesday? (9/8/5) -- Nick Rout Chris asked me too. Answer: On the assumption that all presentations will be done from the one system, which is tested for compatibility by next Monday, then yes - no problem. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on free open source software: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 email client Firefox 1.0.4 browser
Re: Calling all Rik's
Nick Rout wrote: It is sensible to have them all done from one system. I thought at this stage my laptop wouold do the trick. I think we have used it with your projector before, so there may be no need for further testing. Was it your projector we used for the talk at the Shirley Workingmens Club? (It was on etherboot with the speaker being a guy from Sydney whose name escapes me right now) No, I missed that evening. But I think you'll be right, esp if it's KDE (on Gentoo?) you're running - generally that's fine: eg Knoppix works good. Also, the older IBMs seem fine - Chris's has been tested good (KDE on Gentoo). So we'll take a punt! c u there -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Reminder: GNU/Linux Users workshop 4/8/5
GNU/Linux Users does Free Software advocacy for the Canterbury/ /LUG. Tonight's workshop format is the same as last month: Linux Beginners QA + installs. So if you want some tips on your setup, or help to get Linux running, just let us know if you're bringing a computer along. All contributors welcome. Details: 7.30pm 4/8/5, Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Christchurch. There will be flyers for people to take away for friends, shop windows, libraries, noticeboards, etc to promote Software Freedom Day http://www.softwarefreedomday.org arriving on 10 Sept. We wish to make a master list of sites to cover the wider city area. The flyer is viewable here: http://www.infohelp.co.nz/docs/SFDFlyer6.pdf - feel free to print circulate. SFI are sending us extra CDs and materials, because they like the look of our preparation so far. Wellington is organised this year, and there may be activity in Auckland too; interest is really growing worldwide. So if you're wanting to see a higher profile for FOSS locally, and more users involved with GNU and Linux, your help is most appreciated. Regards, and c u tonite, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.10 email client web browser GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: Reminder: GNU/Linux Users workshop 4/8/5
All good Simon, You are in luck as I believe one of the resident Gentoo gurus - Chris Sawtell - is attending tonight. We'll see what else comes up, but it's already looking like the evening's theme. Having got a Gentoo install going (with CLUG help), I have almost reached my pedestrian, workaday evaluation goal with it, and would put Gentoo in this perspective, in relation to Canty G/LUG monthly offerings and a kind of 'Linux induction framework' I think everyone would benefit from us clarifying: 1. Beginners - Ubuntu - GLU 2. Intermediate - Debian - GLU 3. Advanced - various topics + Gentoo - CLUG Of course this does not preclude anyone starting newbies off on Fedora, Novell Linux Desktop (Suse), Mandriva, or any other distro they see fit, outside or inside the monthly meetings. This is just a guideline for what can consistently be offered, from where we are now (without Installfest), as a guide to learners. Discussion welcome, here and/or this evening. Simon Knight wrote: Hi, I would like to bring my Gentoo 2005.0 system along to the users workshop tonight. I am having some trouble with KDE.. snip P.S. I have built a basic LIRC serial transmitter and receiver if any one is interested I have it receiving but not transmitting, I think its software rather than hardware problem thou. I will bring it along. What I especially like about Gentoo - as well as the high quality of users gathered around it - is the clear positivity the Gentoo documentation shows towards GNU and the Free Software relationship. More Gentoo, I say! Cheers, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on free open source software: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 email client Firefox 1.0.4 browser
GNU/Linux Users workshop 4/8/5
Hi folks. Next Thursday, August 4th is the next GLU workshop. The format is the same as last month: Linux Beginners QA + installs (people seemed to enjoy that). So if you want some tips on your setup, or help to get Linux running, this is another chance. Just let us know if you're bringing a computer along please. All contributors welcome. Details: 7.30pm 4/8/5, Sydenham Community Association Hall, 25 Hutcheson Street, Christchurch. Also, there will be flyers for people to take away for friends, shop windows, libraries, noticeboards, etc to promote Software Freedom Day http://www.softwarefreedomday.org arriving on 10 Sept. We will make a master list of sites to cover the wider city area. So if you're wanting to see a higher profile for FOSS, and more users involved with GNU and Linux, your help would be most appreciated. Kind regards, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3, Mozilla 1.7.6 email client web browser + Firefox GIMP 2.2.2 graphics, gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 file transfer
Re: GNU/Linux Users workshop 4/8/5
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:48, Steve Holdoway wrote: Will probably have Gentoo as well by then - biting the bullet on that as well. If desired by the management, I can bring the current 2005.0 universal install.iso and the highly experimental Gentoo-RR4-LiveCD-2.30.iso boot disks. The latter has the Reiser4 file system and a few other bleeding edge goodies. To say nothing of about 4 desktops for play^H^H^H^H experiment and discovery. There is also an up to date - I'll sync that day - portage tree and a few ( ~2.5 GB ) distfiles, together with http and rsync servers for same. Sure, guys. The more the merrier, distros included. Just be aware Chris, if there's not much happening, you could be appearing on the big screen :-) -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz, on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: Anti-Tip
Martin Bähr wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:13:54AM +1200, Michael JasonSmith wrote: /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/phosphor -program /bin/bash try using an editor in it. then try vi, and then try ed, and see how you'll appreciate the less visual style when editing. Nano works well, + tab completion :-) Can one make it full screen? -- Richard Tindall
Re: [OT] now, this *IS* funny
:-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from a slashdot headline: Free Beer That's Free as in Speech If they're giving it away, then it does live up to the name - and not otherwise - imho. http://www.voresoel.dk/main.php?id=70 enjoy -- Delio Cheers, Rik P.S. 'Soccer World Champions' - a meaningful title?
Re: [Fwd: Forthcoming IT Related Events in the Canterbury Region]
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:55, Zane Gilmore wrote: For thost that are interested. http://www.nzcs.org.nz/SITE_Default/branches/SITE_canterbury/itevents.asp I notice that CLUG is not mentioned here. Does anybody want to follow it up? Does that merely mean e-mailling Paul Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and telling him about the details? If so, I'd be happy to do that. When is the closing time for entries? I believe they are drawing their content off the clug wiki 'presentations' page, so keeping that up to date is all you need to do to have the clug meetings listed by nzcs. Their novell migration promo was interesting - tho truncated - last week, with a nice range of pizzas beer. Thanks Volker for alerting us. -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-686 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 suite, Mozilla 1.7.6 browser + Firefox 1.0.2 Thunderbird 1.0.2 email, Gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 filexfer
Re: From the we don't know how lucky we are side of life
Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000813051216/ Derek If computers were merely paper-digitisors, then our libraries would look like this too. The world is radically changing, revolutionised by ICT. 'The Society of the Spectacle' writ large, awaiting better ideas. .02c - RT
Re: modem
There's a lot to be said for just taking the plunge.. Matthew Whiting wrote: Hi all, Further to my previous post on hardware support and choosing a distro: I found out a tad more about that Dynalink modem. Its a Lucent Agere chipset. Based on a comment in a reply to my previous post, sounds like this chipset might be okay? Yep. What was Bell Labs know what they're doing. :-) I discovered I already have a version of Linux on DVD - Novell Suse version 9.1, I think. Any comments on this? It does say its an evaluation copy but yeah... That should run your Agere modem fine. I'm not really a hardware man. This is what I'm looking at purchasing: === CHASSIS 1 HW525 TS1 BLACK/SILVER MIDTOWER MOTHERBOARD 1 AC556 INTEL D915GAGL UATX LGA775 MOTHERBOARD CPU 1 PIV30ELGAM P4 LGA775 3.0GHZ 1MB EM64T 800 FSB #531 MEMORY 2 CP426 512MB PC3200/DDR400-SDRAM HDD_I 1 DRSG80AS-NCQ SEAGATE 80GB SATA NCQ 7200RPM HDD BIGBAY_I 1 MM308 BTC BLACK 52/32/52 CDRW/16XDVD COMBO FDD 1 DR456 BLACK FDD 1.44MB PSU 1 HW765 HIGH POWER 350W DUAL FAN PSU MODEM 1 MO668 DYNALINK 56K INTERNAL PCI MODEM KEYBOARD 1 HW919 MS OEM BASIC BLACK PS/2 KEYBOARD MOUSE 1 IO085 MS BLACK OPTICAL USB/PS2 MOUSE WARRANTYSTD 1 CL000 STANDARD 3 YEAR RTB WARRANTY MONITOR 1 Y170B6CB PHILIPS 17 BUSINESS LCD (DARK) AUDIO The Cyclone Sentinel-XB915 is based upon the Intel D915GAGL motherboard supporting the Intel Pentium 4 Processor's at 533/800MHz FSB in the LGA package. It has 1 x PCI express x 1 Slot, 2 PCI Slots, 1 x PCI express x 16 video Slot, onboard Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900 Video, onboard Intel High Definition Audio and on-board 10/100 network card. The Intel D915GAVL is available as an option if 2 x PCI express x 1 Slot or 4 PCI slots are required. The Sentinel-OB915 is a Mid-tower chassis with 7 drive bays (Including 3 x5 1/4 and 2x 3 1/2 external and 2x 3 1/2 internal) with a 320 Watt Power supply with Ball Bearing Fan. A Microsoft optical mouse pad, 104 Key Windows '98 Keyboard and a 3.5 Floppy Drive are included as standard. === Any comments appreciated! Cheers Matthew Why not. You don't know till you try. Any fixes needed wouldn't be far away. Someone would probably say if they knew of any drawbacks. Good luck, -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-686 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 suite, Mozilla 1.7.6 browser + Firefox 1.0.2 Thunderbird 1.0.2 email, Gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 filexfer
Re: linux installation questions
Matthew Whiting wrote: Thanks for thoughts and suggestions so far. Sounds like I should find out more about this modem before I purchase it and maybe look at getting something else? Are mobo's still supplied with serial ports? If so, get an external 56K too (_not_ USB; even better, ADSL via ethernet), and sidestep whatever's onboard entirely. (Or pick an onboard Agere brand modem, for best Linux chances.) I have a spare Ubuntu CD if you want to try that. It's robust on Intel. hth, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-686 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 suite, Mozilla 1.7.6 browser + Firefox 1.0.2 Thunderbird 1.0.2 email, Gedit 2.10.2 web editor, gFTP 2.0.18 filexfer
Re: Nick's MythTV presentation
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I for one was thoroughly impressed with Nick's MythTV presentation last night. Was that the presentation, the presented software, or both? ;-))) (I'd say both.) Hear, hear. A most interesting evening, thanks Nick. One question I meant to ask, having looked at the site not easily found the answer, is what licensing applies? [..aGoogling vs temporary DNS fault..] -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on free open source software: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 email client Firefox 1.0.4 browser
Re: Nick's MythTV presentation
MythTV Cool! - it's GPL: http://osx.freshmeat.net/projects/mythtv/ - Rik
