Re: Pronounce sudo
When you realise you've just done something stupid, it's soo-d'oh! :) 2009/9/9 Robert Fisher rob...@fisher.net.nz Today I came across a reminder of the meaning of sudo super user do So how should it be pronounced? soo-doo or soo-dough
Re: dodgy hd
2009/6/17 Barry Marchant barr...@paradise.net.nz Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 07:19 +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote: SAMSUNG HD753LJ s/n S13UJ1NQB01779 was the one that failed. Failure was more than just the filesystem, I was unable to read or write to the partition table. That comment was aimed at Barry, the OP who restored his filesystem using an alternate superblock and has had no problem since... I have had no problems since, because I have done nothing with the faulty ptn apart from copying everything on the ptn to a external hd. It has been returned to Dove and I await their response. BTW the drive was a WD1600AAJB. The superblock failed and running 'cp /dev/hda6 /dev/null' reported at least 2 unreadable sectors. It still managed to boot on another ptn after I deleted the faulty 1 from fstab, but with many complaints. THanks for all the replies Barry Something which I have found useful in some cases is SpinRite ( www.grc.com/spinrite.htm ), which can perform low-level analysis and recovery of hard drive sectors. It's not free, but has been invaluable to me in the past (not recently, touch wood :) $0.02, David -- The meek don't want it.
Re: USB to VGA
2009/5/18 Leif Keane l...@stmargarets.school.nz Hi. I have a small scale laptop with a 23cm (just about) screen. It is capable of resolutions up to 1024 X 600. The devise, however doesn't have a VGA out and I want to plug the thing into a data projector. There are USB to VGA adapters, but I'm having a bit of trouble finding one that works with Linux (EdUbuntu 8.04). Any thoughts or suggestions? Leif This looks interesting: http://www.h-online.com/open/DisplayLink-plugs-into-Linux--/news/113307 David -- In order to discover who you are, first learn who everybody else is; you're what's left.
Re: Unable to boot [SOLVED]
Bingo, that was the problem ! It's been a while since I looked at the BIOS, and I'd forgotten that setting was in there. It *had* swapped them round. I reset it, and all is now sweetness and light :) Many thanks for all the suggestions, guys. David On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Col c...@paradise.net.nz wrote: My bios has a setting Hard disk boot priority, that it likes to reset automatically when I play around with drives. You might want to check that first. Cheers Col.
Unable to boot
Hi all, I've got a problem which I'm unable to fix, and I need a little help. I've done some fiddling, and now I can't boot up my machine any more. Here's the background: I have two removable SATA drive bays in my PC. Normally I have two drives sitting in there, one with SuSE 10.3 (my normal system) and SuSE 11.1 on it, and the other with a single FAT32 partition with a bunch of video files on it. From memory (I'm at work at the moment), the partitions are set up as follows: sda1 - 1GB boot partition sda5 - 2GB swap sda6 - 30GB SuSE 11.1 (/) sda7 - 60GB SuSE 11.1 (/home) sda8 - 20GB SuSE 10.3 (/) sda9 - 150GB SuSE 10.3 (/home) sdb5 - 160GB FAT32 Last week I bought a new drive, took out the other two drives, and plugged this one in. I intend(ed) to use this drive as a playpen, just to mess about with different flavours of Linux, and so far it has PCLinuxOS, Mepis and Linux Mint on it. That worked fine. Later I put my original drives back in, intending to boot up SuSE 10.3 again, but the system stopped after the BIOS check, with the word 'GRUB' in the top-left corner. Now normally it says 'GRUB Loading Stage 1.5' (I think), and half the time it will hang at that point anyway, requiring a reboot, but it's always done that (that may be a symptom in itself). This time it just said 'GRUB', and stopped. I assumed that GRUB or some part of the boot sequence had got corrupted (don't ask me how, the drives were just sitting on the desk until I plugged them back in...), so I booted off my SuSE 11.1 DVD, selected 'Boot from hard disk', and was then able to boot from the hard disk as usual. I then tried using the recovery utilities on the DVD to fix the boot issue, and that's when things started to get worse. I first ran the automatic recovery utility; it said some part of the boot sequence was incorrect, and attempted to fix it. I was still unable to boot, so then I tried the manual recovery method, trying various combinations of booting from the Master Boot Record, from the boot partition, the root partition, rewriting the MBR, etc. etc. Long story short, no matter what I tried it wouldn't boot up, and now I'm at the point where I can't boot at all, and I'm stuck. I wasted over 3 hours on it last night, and I've exhausted my admittedly limited knowledge (and patience). Short of reinstalling, I dont' know what else to try, so I'm hoping that one of you kind souls will be able to have a look at this machine for me, and hopefully get it back into a working state. I'm happy to pay for your time in whatever fashion you prefer, money, blank disks, whatever. If anyone is able to help, I'd be most grateful. As I say, I'm at work at the moment, so I can't run any commands on the machine for you, but I'll try and answer any other questions you may have. Thanks, David Merriman -- Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
Re: Unable to boot
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009 08:59:02 Steve wrote: Looking at your setup, I'd say that you put the drives back in in the wrong order, so that sda - with the bootstrap - is now sdb. Whether you can recover from this now, I'm not too sure. Still worth a try though (: If that were the case wouldn't the BIOS report that there was no operating system? But he's getting as far as getting the boot loader to execute because it's saying 'GRUB'. There is a _very_ comprehensive list of GRUB error problems and their solutions here:- http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml Problem #11 looks like the one I had, I'll try the suggested solution tonight when I get home :) IMHO David should attempt to boot his machine using a rescue CD/DVD/USB drive. Possible bootable rescue disk images can be found at:- http://www.sysresccd.org/Download http://www.giannone.eu/rescue/current/ http://www.toms.net/rb/download.html Note that last time I tried toms root and boot it would not execute the chroot command correctly. To the best of my knowledge, almost every Linux distro available now-a-days has a rescue system built-in. If that's available to you, you can, may, and should use that. imho, to start with you should boot your machine using a rescue system and check the state of the grub config file. It's usually at:-/boot/grub/menu.lst some distros use a different file name such as /boot/grub/grub.conf which might be linked to menu.lst . Yes... Unfortunately, as I mentioned, using the rescue system on the SuSE DVD was partly what got me into this mess in the first place :D Still, I'll have another try. Thanks, David
Re: Unable to boot
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Steve st...@greengecko.co.nz wrote: Looking at your setup, I'd say that you put the drives back in in the wrong order, so that sda - with the bootstrap - is now sdb. Whether you can recover from this now, I'm not too sure. Still worth a try though (: Steve I'll check that out, though I suspect I've done too much damage now :) Thanks, David On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:51:32 +1300 David Merriman david.merrim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've got a problem which I'm unable to fix, and I need a little help. I've done some fiddling, and now I can't boot up my machine any more. Here's the background: I have two removable SATA drive bays in my PC. Normally I have two drives sitting in there, one with SuSE 10.3 (my normal system) and SuSE 11.1 on it, and the other with a single FAT32 partition with a bunch of video files on it. From memory (I'm at work at the moment), the partitions are set up as follows: sda1 - 1GB boot partition sda5 - 2GB swap sda6 - 30GB SuSE 11.1 (/) sda7 - 60GB SuSE 11.1 (/home) sda8 - 20GB SuSE 10.3 (/) sda9 - 150GB SuSE 10.3 (/home) sdb5 - 160GB FAT32 Last week I bought a new drive, took out the other two drives, and plugged this one in. I intend(ed) to use this drive as a playpen, just to mess about with different flavours of Linux, and so far it has PCLinuxOS, Mepis and Linux Mint on it. That worked fine. Later I put my original drives back in, intending to boot up SuSE 10.3 again, but the system stopped after the BIOS check, with the word 'GRUB' in the top-left corner. Now normally it says 'GRUB Loading Stage 1.5' (I think), and half the time it will hang at that point anyway, requiring a reboot, but it's always done that (that may be a symptom in itself). This time it just said 'GRUB', and stopped. I assumed that GRUB or some part of the boot sequence had got corrupted (don't ask me how, the drives were just sitting on the desk until I plugged them back in...), so I booted off my SuSE 11.1 DVD, selected 'Boot from hard disk', and was then able to boot from the hard disk as usual. I then tried using the recovery utilities on the DVD to fix the boot issue, and that's when things started to get worse. I first ran the automatic recovery utility; it said some part of the boot sequence was incorrect, and attempted to fix it. I was still unable to boot, so then I tried the manual recovery method, trying various combinations of booting from the Master Boot Record, from the boot partition, the root partition, rewriting the MBR, etc. etc. Long story short, no matter what I tried it wouldn't boot up, and now I'm at the point where I can't boot at all, and I'm stuck. I wasted over 3 hours on it last night, and I've exhausted my admittedly limited knowledge (and patience). Short of reinstalling, I dont' know what else to try, so I'm hoping that one of you kind souls will be able to have a look at this machine for me, and hopefully get it back into a working state. I'm happy to pay for your time in whatever fashion you prefer, money, blank disks, whatever. If anyone is able to help, I'd be most grateful. As I say, I'm at work at the moment, so I can't run any commands on the machine for you, but I'll try and answer any other questions you may have. Thanks, David Merriman -- Hardware: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. -- Steve st...@greengecko.co.nz
Re: Unable to boot
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Roger Searle w...@paradise.net.nz wrote: And if you can't recover those installs, when you decide to reinstall, you will be able to retain your /home partition and should have all your settings and documents still there. It's been a while since I did it with SuSE and others particularly Volker may fill in more details for you, I do recall though I was very successfully able to have more than one SuSE install similar to you and be able to tell the install where /home would be. In fact, just a single /home was all that was required for both releases. The key point to making this work in the installation comes when you set up the disk partitions, choosing a manual partitioning rather than the default, and ensuring you don't allow formatting of your existing /home partition, which will be easily recognised by it's size if you've put the disks on different sata connectors. Same general idea works with ubuntu, should you have a situation where you're doing a new install as opposed to upgrading. This has been my journey, on a number of ocassions (be it SuSE or *buntu or Mepis or others lost in the mist of time) where my experimenting and fixing things has wrecked an install to the point where it's easier and quicker to do another one given my knowledge at the time. One of the great things about linux is the ease and speed with which it can be installed these days. It's all good learning... Cheers, Roger Yes, it's certainly easy enough to reinstall if necessary; I was just hoping to avoid that since it's a pain having to reinstall all the apps, etc., but I suspect I may have to do it anyway. Thanks, David
Re: Help needed recovering a lost directory structure
Yes, I intend to dump the disk once I get everything I can off it. I've heard of putting disks in the freezer, never tried it though. I did consider turning the pc off overnight (I usually leave it running), and trying again when it was cold, but at the moment it's running a SpinRite scan over all the drives (when I checked it this morning, it had been stuck on one block all night, hadn't moved...). The ironic thing is that I'd recently had a tidyup of all the various bits and pieces, documents, photos, files, directories etc, lying around the various drives and partitions I have, and consolidated them all onto this one partition before wiping all the other copies... Hmm, that's a thought, maybe I can recover some of the stuff from those other partitions... David -- Office Automation: The use of computers to improve efficiency in the office by removing anyone you would want to talk with over coffee. Kerry Mayes wrote: If your disk is dying then you should replace it. It's only going to get worse. So I assume you're just trying to get some important data off it? If the physical problem with the disk is related to the mechanism rather than the surface of the disks, then you could try putting the disk in the freezer. Sounds bizarre I know. But I have successfully used this technique to recover important data off a stuffed hard disk. You need to put the drive in a plastic bag to limit the condensation then a few hours in the freezer and the previously locked up disk runs for quite some time. However, this is only useful for getting data off the disk - it doesn't repair the disk so it will die again sooner rather than later. YMMV Kerry 2008/7/17 David Merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, A few days ago, a message popped up on my screen, saying that the BIOS's S.M.A.R.T. program had decided that one of my hard disks was dying (I don't recall the exact wording), and sure enough, I could no longer access one of my partitions.
Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.
I contacted a friend who works for Telecom, and she thinks it will work on their network (as far as she can tell). Telecom's 850MHz network is already up and running in most main centers, so the 850 version should work right now. I'm seriously tempted to order one. If only it had a camera too... :-\ David -- Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. John Carter wrote: The Open Source / Embedded Linux Open / Hackable Cellphone is on sale now! I note their 900/1800/1900 Mhz tri band is sold out, but the 850/1800/1900 is still available for $399 or $3690 for packs of 10. http://www.openmoko.com/product.html I note Vodafone 900 and 1800 services and Telecom has 850mhz planned. http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_nz.shtml The telecom site suggests that you'll not be able to use the openmoko on their network... http://telecom.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/telecom.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=104 http://telecom.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/telecom.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=135 Question 1 to the Group: Do we need to have the 900Mhz version here or is the 850 preferable because in the longer term it will allow us to switch to Telecom if we wish? Question 2 to the Group: Anyone planning on distributing these things in NZ? Question 3 to the Group: I'm planning on ordering one for myself, and would be prepared to go for a 10 pack if enough others are interested. Anybody else interested? John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Zealand
Re: OT: Top Posting.
Christopher Sawtell wrote: Christopher Sawtell Sincerely etc., == :-) I hope I have made my point? amusing moment ) word into Google for a very ( Folks might care to put that better apply the Voldemort conventions. software house to which we had and abetted by a certain a work of Satan, ably aided that I class top posting as I hope this makes the point have similar problems. I suspect that many other folks which is posted to mail lists infest much of the prose of misunderstandings which Judging by the huge plethora the meaning therein. comprehend the nuances of difficult to read and to response to be incredibly In the same way as this which have been formatted Thus I find documents, a few lines from the bottom. thoughts expressed actually starts posting email the sequence of of the page. whereas the in a top document to be written at the top to expect the first word in a Thus we are pre-programmed from the top of the page to the bottom. character set, English is usually read all languages using the Latin However, in common with way to go. I suppose top posting is the page up to the the top of it, then read from the bottom of the conventions cause you to If your natural language's Here's a paragraph from a Joel On Software article by Joel Spolsky from about 4 years ago, which I read yesterday and which this debate reminded me of: In addition to absolute success and failures in social software, there are also social software side effects. The way social software behaves determines a huge amount about the type of community that develops. Usenet clients have this big-R command which is used to reply to a message /while quoting the original message/ with those elegant 's in the left column. And the early newsreaders were not threaded, so if you wanted to respond to someone's point coherently, you /had/ to quote them using the big-R feature. This led to a particularly Usenet style of responding to an argument: the line-by-line nitpick. It's fun for the nitpicker but never worth reading. (By the way, the political bloggers, newcomers to the Internet, have reinvented this technique, thinking they were discovering something fun and new, and called it /fisking/, for reasons I won't go into. Don't worry, it's not dirty.) Even though human beings had been debating for centuries, a tiny feature of a software product produced a whole new style of debating. Here's the full article for those who are interested: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/NotJustUsability.html It's actually about software usability, and how it alters human behaviours as a result. David (resisting the urge to top-post...) -- Evidence disproving evolution means evolution is wrong. Evidence disproving the Bible means the evidence is wrong.
Basic cache for IP addresses
Hi there, I'm looking for a way to cache website addresses to speed up page finding and loading. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.14 on SuSE 10.3, with a D-Link DSL-502T broadband modem and D-Link DI-524UP wireless router (though I'm plugged directly into that, not wireless). At the moment, whenever I select a webpage from Firefox's bookmarks, or type in a URL, it takes approximately 10 seconds before the IP address is found, and the page starts loading. Firefox's status bar says Looking up Slashdot.org... (or whatever) for that long, before the page starts loading. After the first time, accessing the same page again is fast - but only if I do it within a few minutes. After a certain amount of time has passed, Firefox has to look up the IP address again, which takes another 10 seconds... Is there a simple way I can make my browser/computer/modem cache the addresses of websites I visit, ready to serve up at some later date ? I don't want to put dozens of addresses into my 'hosts' file manually... The computer is on most of the time, and the modem is always on. I've read a little about Bind and Squid, but I'm not sure if they're what I'm after, plus they seem like overkill for what I want. Thanks for any advice. David Merriman -- Self Test for Paranoia: You know you have it when you can't think of anything that's your own fault.
Re: Basic cache for IP addresses
I'm with Xtra, on Jetstream.
These are the entire contents of my /etc/resolv.conf file:
===
#
# Modified_by: dhcpcd
# Backup: /etc/resolv.conf.saved.by.dhcpcd.eth1
# Process: dhcpcd
# Process_id: 3393
# Script: /sbin/modify_resolvconf
# Saveto:
# Info: This is a temporary resolv.conf created by service dhcpcd.
# The previous file has been saved and will be restored later.
#
# If you don't like your resolv.conf to be changed, you
# can set MODIFY_{RESOLV,NAMED}_CONF_DYNAMICALLY=no. This
# variables are placed in /etc/sysconfig/network/config.
#
# You can also configure service dhcpcd not to modify it.
#
# If you don't like dhcpcd to change your nameserver
# settings
# then either set DHCLIENT_MODIFY_RESOLV_CONF=no
# in /etc/sysconfig/network/dhcp, or
# set MODIFY_RESOLV_CONF_DYNAMICALLY=no in
# /etc/sysconfig/network/config or (manually) use dhcpcd
# with -R. If you only want to keep your searchlist, set
# DHCLIENT_KEEP_SEARCHLIST=yes in
/etc/sysconfig/network/dhcp or
# (manually) use the -K option.
#
### END INFO
search mshome
nameserver 192.168.0.1
===
I'm not sure if this is also relevant, but the DSL-502T has a DNS
configuration section, setup as follows:
DNS Selection: Use Auto-discovered DNS servers only
Preferred DNS server: 202.27.158.40
Alternate DNS server: 202.27.156.72
David
--
Evidence disproving evolution means evolution is wrong.
Evidence disproving the Bible means the evidence is wrong.
Phill Coxon wrote:
On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 19:38 +1200, David Merriman wrote:
Hi there,
I'm looking for a way to cache website addresses to speed up page
finding and loading. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.14 on SuSE 10.3, with a
D-Link DSL-502T broadband modem and D-Link DI-524UP wireless router
(though I'm plugged directly into that, not wireless).
At the moment, whenever I select a webpage from Firefox's bookmarks, or
type in a URL, it takes approximately 10 seconds before the IP address
is found, and the page starts loading. Firefox's status bar says
Looking up Slashdot.org... (or whatever) for that long, before the
page starts loading.
Who is your ISP?
What DNS nameservers do you have in /etc/resolv.conf?
It may be easily fixed by checking that you are using the correct
nameservers and / or changing to a faster one.
Re: Basic cache for IP addresses
There don't appear to be any DNS settings in the configuration. It is on a separate address range than the 502T modem though - 192.168.0.1 for the 524 vs 10.1.1.1 for the modem. Would that be a problem ? David Roger Searle wrote: Those are correct xtra dns server addresses and so ought to be OK. What DNS settings do you have in your DI-524UP? Cheers, Roger
SOLVED: Re: Basic cache for IP addresses
Hi all, got it sorted. I first checked the connections (yes, the modem and router were connected through the WAN port), then tried Roger's suggestion of changing the IP address of the wireless router from 192.168.0.1 to 10.1.1.1, but that made no difference. Then I saw an option on the 524's LAN setup page for 'DNS Relay', which could be Enabled or Disabled. It was Enabled. I set it to Disabled, rebooted the router and hey presto ! I now have near-instantaneous address lookup, much less than 1 second for most sites :) The help screen for the configuration didn't mention the DNS Relay setting, but I found it in the full 524 manual: DNS Relay The Router can be configured to relay DNS from your ISP or another available service to workstations on your LAN. When using DNS relay, the Router will accept DNS requests from hosts on the LAN and forward them to the ISP (or alternative) DNS servers. DNS relay can use auto discovery or the DNS IP address can be manually entered by the user. Alternatively, you may also disable the DNS relay and configure hosts on your LAN to use DNS servers directly. Most users who are using the Router for DHCP service on the LAN and are using DNS servers on the ISP’s network, will leave DNS relay enabled (either auto discovery or user configured). So it looks like all is good now, thanks for the help guys :) David -- After months of pent-up emotions like a caffeine-addict trying to kick the habit, Cathy finally let the tears come, at first dripping sporadically like an old clogged percolator, then increasing slowly like a 10-cup coffeemaker with an automatic drip, and eventually pouring out and noisily wailing like a cappuccino maker complete with slurping froth. Roger Searle wrote: Your LAN is using 192.168.0.1, 0.2, 0.3 etc range of addresses. The connection between your 2 devices is a different range. Here is a quick setup guide for your 524: ftp://files.dlink.com.au/products/DI-524UP/QuickInstallGuide/DI-524UP_QIG.pdf An option may be for you to follow the setup wizard, the guide suggests you see a screen to enter primary and secondary dns addresses - the xtra ones? Given you are saying the 502 has an IP address of 10.1.1.1, you want the WAN IP to be 10.1.1.2 and mask 255.0.0.0. Just checking - you are connecting the 524 to the 502 through it's wan port? Roger David Merriman wrote: There don't appear to be any DNS settings in the configuration. It is on a separate address range than the 502T modem though - 192.168.0.1 for the 524 vs 10.1.1.1 for the modem. Would that be a problem ? David Roger Searle wrote: Those are correct xtra dns server addresses and so ought to be OK. What DNS settings do you have in your DI-524UP? Cheers, Roger
Re: SOLVED: Re: Basic cache for IP addresses
Oops, that should have read 10.1.1.2, not 10.1.1.1 :) David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp David Merriman wrote: Hi all, got it sorted. I first checked the connections (yes, the modem and router were connected through the WAN port), then tried Roger's suggestion of changing the IP address of the wireless router from 192.168.0.1 to 10.1.1.1, but that made no difference.
The case for and against OOXML
There's a couple of articles in the latest Computerworld NZ magazine, where Brett Roberts from Microsoft and Don Christie from NZOSS discuss the OOXML document format. Brett Roberts, for OOXML: http://tinyurl.com/2uxebu Don Christie, against OOXML: http://tinyurl.com/2sxpt3 The articles themselves are interesting, but what I found fascinating was the difference in writing styles between the two protagonists (assuming they wrote the responses themselves). Brett Roberts used rather more vague, PR-style prose: The OOXML specification empowers developers to create a host of new innovations for customers. whereas Don Christie was more straight-forward in his responses: [If OOXML is rejected as a global standard, what will it mean for businesses and the public?] Nothing much. I guess it points to the different backgrounds and environments the two come from. Brett probably came from a marketing background, and Don probably was (or still is) a programmer or some such. I could be (read: probably am) wrong. I thought it was interesting, anyway :) David -- It doesn't matter whether you win or lose -- until you lose.
OT: Sorry, I just couldn't resist...
I just saw this tag line on Slashdot, and couldn't resist: Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck;more;yes;umount;sleep :D David -- Mixed emotions: Watching a bus-load of lawyers plunge off a cliff. With five empty seats.
LinuxBIOS
This looks like fun: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/nethub/article.php/3706881 Has anyone here tried playing with this ? David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
Emacs
http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/07sep/uf010710.gif Sorry, couldn't resist :) David
The $139 Linux PC
http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2007/08/the_139_linux_pc.html David -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks.
Unable to access repositories for SimplyMEPIS 6.5
Hi all, I'm using SimplyMEPIS 6.5, and connecting to the outside world via a D-Link DSL-502T broadband modem. There's also a D-Link wireless station plugged into that, but I'm not using it myself, I only mention it for completeness' sake. Usually when I run Synaptic, and hit 'Reload' to update the repositories, they fail to update, usually with a message about not being able to retrieve the .gpg files (I think, I'm at work at the moment, and going by memory). I can usually connect to and browse the repository directories with Firefox. I've Googled a fair bit, and read about people having similar problems with D-Link modems, but usually with older firmware. My firmware version is something like 3.00B1 (again, from memory). I know D-Link Australia has a B2 version available and I've downloaded that .EXE file just in case, but I hope I won't need it. Has anyone else had similar problems with either SimplyMEPIS, D-Link modems, or both ? How did you solve them ? Also, are there any other repositories you can recommend ? I've only got the installed default ones at present. Thanks for your help, David Merriman -- He fell for her like his heart was a mob informant, and she was the East River
SimplyMEPIS
Hi all, Could I please obtain a copy of the latest SimplyMEPIS from somebody ? I've read good things about it here and elsewhere, and thought I might give it a go. I work in Riccarton (near Mandeville St), and live in Parklands (Mairehau Rd). Thanks in advance, David Merriman -- Before you criticise someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Re: SimplyMEPIS
Thanks everyone, got it sorted already :) As luck would have it, Roy Britten works just around the corner from me, so I'm picking one up from him. Thanks again, David -- He fell for her like his heart was a mob informant, and she was the East River Chris AKA personthingy wrote: If you can't got one from someone closer, i could burn you a copy What version would you like? i have 3.4.3 and 6 plus 3 CDs of extras for simplymepis6 sitting on HDD Happy to swap you for blank CDs. I live near Jade Stadium tho. This might be a little far from you. On Thursday 10 May 2007 14:18, david merriman wrote: Hi all, Could I please obtain a copy of the latest SimplyMEPIS from somebody ? I've read good things about it here and elsewhere, and thought I might give it a go. I work in Riccarton (near Mandeville St), and live in Parklands (Mairehau Rd). Thanks in advance, David Merriman -- Before you criticise someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
Article: Parallelize applications for faster Linux booting
Hi all, I was just reading this article ( http://tinyurl.com/2ostmf ) about parallelizing (is that a word ?) applications to make Linux boot faster, and thought I might give it a go. Does anyone here do something like this on their own pc's ? If so, what do you use/do, and what experiences, good or bad, have you had ? I'd be interested to know. L8R, David -- Fighting over religion is like seeing whose imaginary friend is best
Re: What specs do you recommend for new desktop / server?
TechRepublic published an article yesterday about building a great PC on a budget. It may give you some ideas. Ignore the bit about Windows Vista ;) http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5102-10877-6161342.html David -- Extroverts try to convince everyone how smart they are. Introverts assume everyone already knows it. Phill Coxon wrote: It's time for me to upgrade my desktop computer / development server again. I haven't kept up with changes in hardware over the last year or two so I really have no idea how the latest processors MBs compare. I'd appreciate your suggestions. What is the best recommendation for processors these days? Does Dual Core or Core 2 Duo have any major performance advantages yet? Motherboard recommendations? I need good USB / firewire support + up to 4G memory. What onboard chipsets do I want to avoid, if any? My current motherboard has VIA chipset which I (later) read somewhere can have problems with linux. I've certainly noticed that disk performance has been very sub-standard with the current computer and frequently causes Good dual head 3D video cards? I might look at something like a Nvidia Geforce 7300GT. My main uses for this computer are: * Normal desktop use * Website development - running Zend etc. * running VMware (a necessary evil) * Digital video work via firewire. * full development server - apache 2, php, mysql, the usual services. Thanks!
Re: semi-OT: Recommendations for video card
Good spotting Nick, I admit I hadn't looked at all the specs in detail so I didn't see that. I might still go with a DVI card anyway, as I understand they give a better picture quality with DVI-capable monitors. David -- The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind you get from not eating for a while [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm thinking about buying a new LCD monitor, with a DVI connection, as a result of which I'll also need a new DVI video card. I've currently got an nVidia GeForce2 MX400, which is a PCI card AFAICT. My motherboard is an Albatron KX600Pro, with an 8X AGP slot. That monitor will also run from the VGA output of your current card. Input Signals: D-Sub/DVI-D ie it is dual input Do people have recommendations for a good basic AGP card ? I don't play games, so ultra-high frame rates aren't essential, and I don't want to spend a heap of money. Ascent has the Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9200SE, for $73, all the way up to a Leadtek Quadro FX4000 for $9,838, but I don't want to spend that kind of money ! :D Go nVidia if you want an accelerated card with maximum linux support. The dowbnside is proprietary drivers, but they are better than the ATi drivers If you're interested, this is the monitor I want to get: www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=350610 It's on special from Ascent for $553, down from $1,063, which I thought was too good to let pass by :) Oh, and the On Topic bit, I'll be using this card and monitor with my SuSE 10.2 box... Many Thanks, David -- Mitzi's wet T-shirt clung to her torso like paint on the nose cone of a jumbo jet.
French Government Says 'Au Revior' to Microsoft
http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/07feb/uf010004.gif :) David -- The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much
Multimedia must remain free from Microsoft's control
There's an interesting article in the latest Computerworld magazine about multimedia in Linux, and the opportunity to 'take up the slack' with the release of Windows Vista: http://tinyurl.com/2s36mj David -- To err is human, but to blame someone else shows management potential
Re: keed spills
I do, I've got a 320GB drive in my XBox full of TV series that I get from a friend; CSI, Top Gear, Boston Legal, House, and many others. I love it :D Although I want to start downloading them myself, so I don't have to rely on (and use up) my friend's bandwidth (and goodwill :) ). I realise this is getting further OT, but can you (or anyone else) point me towards sites where I can do that (off-list if you prefer) ? Many Thanks, David -- John and Mary had never met. They were like two hummingbirds who had also never met Paul Swafford wrote: Also Way OT .. how many people watch TV by downloading it here. I very seldom watch broadcast TV these days. So maybe Gates isn't far off when he predicts (perhaps observes the obvious trend) the TV will be unrecognizable in 5 years.
Re: keed spills
Of course, having said that, I don't condone copyright infringement. I only have those TV shows on my XBox for Scientific Purposes (in the same way the Japanese only catch whales for Scientific Purposes...) ;) David -- When Detective Riggs was called to investigate the theft of a trainload of Native American fish broth concentrate bound for market, he solved the case almost immediately, being that the trail of clues led straight to the trainmaster, who had both the locomotive and the Hopi tuna tea. david merriman wrote: I do, I've got a 320GB drive in my XBox full of TV series that I get from a friend; CSI, Top Gear, Boston Legal, House, and many others. I love it :D Although I want to start downloading them myself, so I don't have to rely on (and use up) my friend's bandwidth (and goodwill :) ). I realise this is getting further OT, but can you (or anyone else) point me towards sites where I can do that (off-list if you prefer) ? Many Thanks, David
Dell sells computers without Windows preinstalled
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/e510_nseries?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs David -- Long separated by cruel fate, the star-crossed lovers raced across the grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one having left Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. travelling at 55 mph, the other from Topeka at 4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph
Linux cellphone - kinda...
http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/06dec/uf009803.gif David :) -- I never make mistakes. I thought I did once, but I was mistaken
Semi-OT: Cheap, hackable Linux smartphone due soon
www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html David -- Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints...
Neuros OSD Linux Media Recorder
http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/8af5/?cpg=39H David -- The downside of being better than everyone else is that people tend to assume you're pretentious
OT: vi vs emacs
http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/06sep/ufng009504.gif :) David -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks.
Lenovo Pre-Loading Linux on Notebooks
http://software.seekingalpha.com/article/15517 David -- Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones, which have a lining of Iridium Strontium 90)
WinME Firewall - was [Re: OT and Friday: Does this make it legal at last?]
On 11/08/2006 2:28:15 p.m., Rik Tindall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Can anyone recommend a beer-free firewall for WinME? ZoneAlarm looks like it expires after two weeks. It's a client's rebuild, up safe two weeks now behind Anti-vir, Firefox Thunderbird. Spybot seems good too. Any recommendations? The free (as in beer) ZoneAlarm should work indefinitely. You can download it from here: http://tinyurl.com/oolr3 Just make sure when installing it that you choose the *free* version, *not* the Pro version. David -- The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind you get from not eating for a while
[Semi-OT] User Friendly cartoons
Hi, sorry for the semi-offtopic post, but I saw these two User Friendly cartoons recently and thought some people might get a laugh out of them :) http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060628 http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060629 David -- The downside of being better than everyone else is that people tend to assume you're pretentious
Re: Ubuntu 5.10 and USB ADSL modems
Rik Tindall wrote: Craig FALCONER wrote: Sorry Rik - the free modem from xtra closed on the 12th March. ? - I'm sure it's being advertised still, along with 'cheaper, faster broadband connections' @ $29.95 per month. Oh, please don't disillusion me! Yes, I signed up with Xtra Broadband a week or two ago, and got a free modem. David -- As soon as Sherriff Russell heard Bradshaw say, This town ain't big enough for the both of us, he inadvertently visualized a tiny chalk-line circle with a town sign that said 'population 1,' and the two of them both trying to stand inside of it rather ineffectively, leaning this way and that, trying to keep their balance without stepping outside of the line, and that was why he was smiling when Bradshaw shot him.
Re: OT: web hosting for club
On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 16:10 +1300, Hadley Rich wrote: On Friday 24 February 2006 15:31, Carl Cerecke wrote: I'm a member of a Toastmasters Club which would like a web presence. Nothing fancy. Something similar to http://threekings.toastmasters.gen.nz/ It would be very low volume, I imagine. Have you looked at Register4Less ? http://uf.r4l.com/ https://secure.register4less.com/cgi-bin/r4l.fcgi/info David -- "Ace, watch your head!" hissed Wanda urgently, yet somehow provocatively, through red, full, sensuous lips, but he couldn't you know, since nobody can actually watch more than part of his nose or a little cheek or lips if he really tries, but he appreciated her warning.
Re: [NOT] SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
Sorry, haven't been able to check my email until now. Thanks for the offer Lance. Unfortunately I won't have physical access to the machine until this Saturday, so a phone dialog wouldn't be possible before that anyway. My friend lives in Brodie St, Upper Riccarton, near Church Corner. It's SuSE 9.3, and yes, the mixer did show both soundcards. David sirlancelot wrote: Oh, by the way, probably an obvious one, but when you open the mixer, did it give you an option to select from teh 2 soundcards? Lance Original Message Subject: Re: [NOT] SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:08:48 +1300 From: sirlancelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: david merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi David Whereabouts is your friend located? Also what distro - sorry I have forgotten and have deleted the old emails? We may be able to do something over the phone, phone me at home later if you like, say about 7pm, 980 8851. Lance B
Re: [NOT] SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
david merriman wrote: Andrew Errington wrote: You might want to be a little more specific: ISA/PCI 8/16 bit SoundBlaster or Random Taiwanese OEM otherwise you might end up with an 8-bit ISA SoundBlaster (which ought to be in landfill, but is in fact in my junk box). By the way, there isn't a tiny switch on the microphone body that mutes it by any chance...? Andy Got it sorted thanks; Lance Blackler has a spare card I can grab. You're right, it didn't occur to me what type of card I would need, but I was able to find the manufacturer's specs and get the info (I love Google :) ). And no, the mic itself doesn't have any switches. David OK, things are not sorted with this soundcard, as I'd hoped. Unfortunately, the card Lance gave me, while it works, only produces static, and the microphone still isn't working correctly. Obviously something isn't set up correctly, but I don't know what. SuSE (9.3) recognises the card. There appears to be no way of disabling the internal card through the BIOS, and disabling it through YaST has no effect. I need some help with this please, folks. I'm sure my friend is getting a little frustrated (though he hasn't said it), as am I. I just don't know enough about setting up soundcards in Linux to do it myself, and I don't have the spare time I need right now to devote to get this card working. Basically I'm floundering. Plus he lives on the other side of town from me, so I can't just hop over the fence to try something out... Would someone be prepared to spend an hour or two (hopefully less) with me round at my friend's house, perhaps this Saturday, and get this machine sorted once and for all ? Suitable recompense will be forthcoming, whatever you feel is appropriate. Any offers will be gratefully received :) Many thanks, David -- A warning to the reader: Tom dies in the end of the story so don't get too attached to him.
Re: [NOT] SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
Christopher Sawtell wrote: To be effective we need to know _exactly_ what this recalcitrant card is? for a start, as root, issue the command:- # lspci -v Now select the parts referring to the sound card and post it to the list. Note that there is a, hopefully remote, possibility that the particular device does not have a Linux driver. -- CS Here are the relevant bits from the 'lspci' command: === linux:/home/Buck # lspci -v :01:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) Subsystem: Cirrus Logic Crystal SoundFusion PCI Audio Accelerator Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 Memory at e280 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Memory at e200 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 :01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) Subsystem: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 I/O ports at d400 [size=256] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 linux:/home/Buck # === The Cirrus Logic controller is the built-in controller on the motherboard. The C-Media Electronics one is the Genius card I got from Lance Blackler. HTH, David
Re: [NOT] SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
That's a great idea, unfortunately neither of us is able to make it :-( So if anyone is able to help this weekend, that would be great. David -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Nick Rout wrote: Why not bring it tomorrow night? There is already one sound system to fix :-) On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 15:55:08 +1300 david merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote: To be effective we need to know _exactly_ what this recalcitrant card is? for a start, as root, issue the command:- # lspci -v Now select the parts referring to the sound card and post it to the list. Note that there is a, hopefully remote, possibility that the particular device does not have a Linux driver. -- CS Here are the relevant bits from the 'lspci' command: === linux:/home/Buck # lspci -v :01:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] (rev 01) Subsystem: Cirrus Logic Crystal SoundFusion PCI Audio Accelerator Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 Memory at e280 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Memory at e200 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 :01:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) Subsystem: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 3 I/O ports at d400 [size=256] Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2 linux:/home/Buck # === The Cirrus Logic controller is the built-in controller on the motherboard. The C-Media Electronics one is the Genius card I got from Lance Blackler. HTH, David
Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
Hi all, Further to my previous query regarding getting a microphone to work in SuSE 9.3, I think (as was suggested by Derek) that replacing the sound card will be the easiest way to fix this. In that vein, does anyone have an unwanted (working) sound card that they want taken off their hands ? My friend is quite happy to buy a new one, but I just wanted to check here first, and potentially eliminate some landfill. Money can change hands, or beer, or blank CD's, or whatever you prefer :) Email me off-list if you like. Thanks David
SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
Andrew Errington wrote: You might want to be a little more specific: ISA/PCI 8/16 bit SoundBlaster or Random Taiwanese OEM otherwise you might end up with an 8-bit ISA SoundBlaster (which ought to be in landfill, but is in fact in my junk box). By the way, there isn't a tiny switch on the microphone body that mutes it by any chance...? Andy Got it sorted thanks; Lance Blackler has a spare card I can grab. You're right, it didn't occur to me what type of card I would need, but I was able to find the manufacturer's specs and get the info (I love Google :) ). And no, the mic itself doesn't have any switches. David -- Everything I am today, I owe to people, whom it is now too late to punish
Re: Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:59:07 +1300 david merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip you may need to turn on capture for the microphone in your mixer. The simplest way to do this is run alsamixer -V capture You can use the left/right arrow keys to get to the microphone device and then space to set it to capture. There should be a capture volume control in there too, make sure it is not set to zero. see also man alsamixer. Then again this may all be covered in the fiddling you have already done :-) Yes, I tried turning 'capture' on and off via KMix, and possibly alsamixer as well, IIRC. Didn't try the 'alsamixer -V capture' command itself though, might give that a go too. David -- Don't take yourself too seriously. No-one else does.
Re: Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
I did fiddle with the duplex setting a bit, using OSS, ALSA, etc., and most of the time I got extremely bad static playing the test tune with duplex turned on, and it still didn't work in Skype anyway. I suspect the card may need upgrading, as the pc is several years old - it originally came with Windows 98... David -- Captain Burton stood at the bow of his massive sailing ship, his weathered face resembling improperly cured leather that wouldn't even be used to make a coat or something. Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, Another quite useful test is to examine the capabilities of the sound card. For skype to use the sound card, the carddriver has to support two concurrent read/write threads. In other words, the card has to be congigured to allow for full duplex operation. artsd would get in the way - alsa provides more hope. Make sure arts is off. Simple test. Open two consoles. In one, do aplay a_valid_file_already_created.wav In the other, do arecord someotherfile.wav The aplay process should work just fine while the arecord process is running. Now, you can do while true; do aplay valid_sound.wav ; done to get it to play the same file over and over. If aplay always interferes with the operation of arecord (or vice versa), update now. Quickly. Buying a new sound card may fix the problem. The onboard sound systems of several years almost never (in my experience) passed this test. In my experience, a new sound card was the easiest solution. You can get the alsa information on a particular card if you wish. I have had a lot of success with the ess series: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-ESS_Technology#matrix http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ Good luck. Derek. -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. Any fool can write code that IndraNet Technologies Ltd.a computer can understand. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good programmers write code ph +64 3 365 6485 that humans can understand. Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/Martin Fowler
Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
Hi there, I set up a friend with SuSE 9.3 last week, and on the whole he's happy with it. However, he uses Skype, and I can't get the microphone working so he can talk. It used to work in Windows 2000, and still does (dual boot). It's an onboard soundcard, with a Crystal SoundFusion PCI Audio Accelerator CS4614/22/24 chipset. I've triple-checked the volume and input/output settings in AlsaMixer, KMix, YAST, Skype, Audacity, KRecord, etc., etc., (yes, I've checked the 'mute' settings too :-) ) and none of them can hear anything from the mic. It does go through to the speakers, though, and you get squealing feedback if the volume is turned up or the mic input boost is turned on, so the mic itself works. I've gone through most of the steps on the Skype Guide for Linux www.skype.com/help/guides/soundsetup_linux.html except for installing another version of ALSA. 'lsmod' shows the 'snd_pcm_oss' and 'snd_mixer_oss' modules are present. Now I've run out of ideas. I've Googled and read for a couple of hours on and off, and tried the most likely suggestions, without success. If anyone can offer suggestions, or is willing to pop round to my friend's house with me and try to sort this out, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, David -- Patricia wrote out the phrase 'It was a dark and stormy night' exactly seventy-two times, which was the same number of times she stabbed her now quickly-rotting husband, and the same number of pages she ripped out of 'He's Just Not That Into You' by Greg Behrendt to scatter around the room -- not because she was obsessive compulsive, or had any sentimental attachment to the number seventy-two, but because she'd always wanted to give those quacks at CSI a hard time.
Re: New Case Time
Jamie Dobbs wrote: My trusty old 3R Santafe is starting to show its age so it's time for a new case. Basic requirements are: Black (as all my drives are black ) 120mm fan front and rear (to enable use of lower speed fans thus reducing noise) Good build quality Budget limit is probably around the $200 mark, can anyone think of a case that fits the bill? System is an Althon 64 3200+ with 3 hard disks and 2 optical drives. I've got one of these, which has worked well: http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=111511 Only problem I've had with it is the possibility of connecting wires faulting if the front cover is removed often. For more choices, see here: http://www.ascent.co.nz/HardwareCategory.aspx?catname=Cases HTH, David -- The dragon cast his wet, rheumy eyes, heavy-lidded with misery, over his kingdom-a malodorous, rot-ridden swamp, with moss cloaking brooding, gloomy cypresses, tree trunks like decayed teeth rising from stagnant ponds, creatures with mildewed fur and scales whom the meanest roadside zoo would have rejected--and hoped the antidepressants would kick in soon.
Re: The Clug wiki
This would be very useful. I've just spent the better part of two hours STFW-ing for info about using the Speedstream 4060 USB modem in Linux, before giving up in disgust and looking at the DSE site for a cheap ADSL modem for a friend. I'd be interested in hearing/reading about people's choices for ADSL modems, personally. David -- Everything I am today, I owe to people, whom it is now too late to punish Michael wrote: I think that the best use of the Wiki, to give it a local relevance, is to post experiences installing hardware bought locally. At this point there is a thread about DVD recommendations. Wouldn't it be great if people who have had a win or failure, with DSE brand X, post that information to the Wiki? Then we wouldn't need the same thread popping up once a month. So, if you've bought it in Chch, or know it is available here, can we add notes to the Wiki about it? I'm not really a Wiki user (at all) but I think I'd get behind it if there was local relevance. Cheers, Michael. = Original Message From linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz = Just a reminder girls and boys, the CLUG Wiki is there for your use and enjoyment. Not a lot has been contributed lately. I'd like to see it get more use. So when you pick up a good tip on the list, or learn how to do something that was tricky, or unusual, or just unintuitive, make a post. Put it there for posterity. It is very easy to use. Please consider it! http://clug.org.nz/ also /s/org/net If you want to see what is the latest on the wiki, there is an rss feed for the site as a whole (there are also rss feeds for the individual pages). For the site feed, cruise to http://clug.org.nz/ Click Recent Changes in the top left corner On that page there is an rss button that points to a url that you can use in your favourite rss newsreader. Also if you have firefox you will get the little rss feed icon at the bottom right - this will subscribe to the feed within firefox's bookmark system. The url for the site rss feed is: http://clug.net.nz/index.php/RecentChanges?format=rss -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message generated in webmail.
Re: The Clug wiki
Yep, that's exactly what I found... David -- Falcon was her name and she was quite the bird of prey, sashaying past her adolescent admirers from one anchor store to another, past the kiosks where earrings longed to lie upon her lobes and sunglasses hoped to nestle on her nose, seemingly the beginning of a beautiful friendship with whomsoever caught the eye of the mall tease, Falcon. Nick Rout wrote: Well it appears not: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=369 if something is supported, google finds it pretty quick. If it isn't supported you can spend hours searching through messages that say can you get xxx going in linux... with inconclusive replies.
Re: GoboLinux
Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:47:59 +1300 david merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, maybe it *is* broke, In what way? I don't know. I wasn't saying that it actually is broken, just speculating what if it is ?. but everyone's used to the workarounds and inconsistencies, and no-one else wants to rock the boat by suggesting a more sensible way to do it... In what way is it more sensible? Looks to me like the hierarchy under C: \Program\ Files (or whatever it's called). Again, I wasn't saying that it *is* more sensible, just observing that people get used to the way things are done, and tend to forget the historical reasons *why* they were done that way in the first place. Eventually, inertia takes over, and the way things are done becomes that's just the way it is, sit down and shut up :-) . At some point, the original reasons may no longer be relevant, and may in fact become a hindrance, as (I think) the article inferred. AFAICT, The GoboLinux developers are suggesting an alternative way of doing things which seems - from my relatively new linux user's viewpoint - to be a reasonable and sensible way. The reasons for change given in the article made sense to me. But then I don't have all the historical background to refute it. And what's wrong with the C:\Program Files\Program Name\ hierarchy anyway ? :-P g,dr David -- Captain Burton stood at the bow of his massive sailing ship, his weathered face resembling improperly cured leather that wouldn't even be used to make a coat or something.
GoboLinux
Does anyone here use GoboLinux ? It was mentioned recently on NewsForge and I thought it looked interesting. http://www.gobolinux.org/ David -- 668: The neighbour of the Beast
Re: GoboLinux
Carl Cerecke wrote: 1. It doesn't use the standard filesystem layout, (/usr, /etc, etc.) so will cause no end of niggles and problems with existing software, almost all of which expects the filesystem to be unix-like. It looks like they've thought of that already, if I read the FAQ correctly (I stand to be corrected though): GoboLinux is a Linux distribution that breaks with the historical Unix directory hierarchy. Basically, this means that there are no directories such as /usr and /etc. The main idea of the alternative hierarchy is to store all files belonging to an application in its own separate subtree; therefore we have directories such as /Programs/GCC/2.95.3/lib. To allow the system to find these files, they are logically grouped in directories such as /System/Links/Executables, which, you guessed it, contains symbolic links to all executable files inside the Programs hierarchy. To maintain backwards compatibility with traditional Unix/Linux apps, there are symbolic links that mimic the Unix tree, such as /usr/bin - /System/Links/Executables, and /sbin - /System/Links/Executables (this example shows that arbitrary differentiations between files of the same category were also removed). Is there a performance loss in using symbolic links, making GoboLinux a bad choice for, say, heavily loaded servers? The short answer: yes, there is, at least theoretically, a performance loss, and no, we never measured it (to know why I wrote theoretically, read the long answer). The long answer: the actual impact of the use of symbolic links is probably lower than you think. In a regular Linux distribution, libraries are already accessed through symbolic links. In GoboLinux, our links point directly to the actual file, so there is really one level of indirection to reach a library. For example, take libc.so.6. It is in /lib, which is a link to /System/Links/Libraries, but the actual file is in /Programs/Glibc/Current, where Current is a link to 2.2.3, and inside Glibc's lib directory you have that libc.so.6 is in fact a link to libc-2.2.3.so. That's a lot of links right? However, libraries are acessed like this: the directory /System/Links/Libraries (which is not a link) is the only one stored in ldconfig's configuration (and LD_LIBRARY_PATH). There libc.so.6 points directly to /Programs/Glibc/2.2.3/lib/libc-2.2.3.so (no links in this whole path). So we have exactly one level of indirection, just as in regular Linux distributions. You may *see* a lot of links, but they are there mostly to ease the system's management. Applications are also compiled with the --prefix set to their homes at /Programs/App/version, so when a program looks for a datafile it does not go through links. Reaching executables involves going through one link, but, unlike regular Linux distributions it does not have to search through items of a PATH (and I believe the ReiserFS's tree structuring of a directory is more optimized than the shell's traversal through elements of $PATH. Of course, there's always the shell's hash, but then, there's always the filesystem cache). David -- Patricia wrote out the phrase 'It was a dark and stormy night' exactly seventy-two times, which was the same number of times she stabbed her now quickly-rotting husband, and the same number of pages she ripped out of 'He's Just Not That Into You' by Greg Behrendt to scatter around the room -- not because she was obsessive compulsive, or had any sentimental attachment to the number seventy-two, but because she'd always wanted to give those quacks at CSI a hard time.
Re: GoboLinux
Another article which may explain things more clearly: I am not clueless - or - Myths and misconceptions about the design of GoboLinux **http://gobolinux.org/index.php?lang=en_USpage=doc/articles/clueless David -- It was a dark and stormy night, although technically it wasn't black or anything -- more of a gravy color like the spine of the 1969 Scribner's Sons edition of A Farewell to Arms, and, truth be told, the storm didn't sound any more fierce than the opening to Leon Russell's 1975 classic, Back to the Island. Carl Cerecke wrote: Two things: 1. It doesn't use the standard filesystem layout, (/usr, /etc, etc.) so will cause no end of niggles and problems with existing software, almost all of which expects the filesystem to be unix-like. 2. Gobo? I mean, c'mon. I don't mind saying I'm running Ubuntu linux, though it's a weird name, but *Gobo* linux? I don't think so.
Re: GoboLinux
Steve Holdoway wrote: Ah, the I'm right, and everyone else is wrong argument! You can be almost certain the developers have weeks and weeks of in-depth *nix admin experience between them when you hear this! I've heard this quite a few times in my career, but there aren't too many still around. I think the last one that stuck was splitting /usr into /usr and /var... and that was a while ago! Why do people want to fix what ain't broke? Well, maybe it *is* broke, but everyone's used to the workarounds and inconsistencies, and no-one else wants to rock the boat by suggesting a more sensible way to do it... I don't know the history, so this is just speculation. As someone once said, If nothing changes, nothing changes :) As ever, my $0.02 (: Same here :) David -- The assassin drew his dagger - a simple line drawing in black ink on rose-tinted vellum.
OT: Recommendations for PC Speakers
Hi there, I'm looking to replace my pc's aging 4.1 speakers with something bright, shiny and new, and wondered if anyone could recommend some decent speakers for a reasonable price. I'd read good things about the TDK Tremor series when they came out a year or two back, but I haven't kept up with the current state of play. I've got a SoundBlaster Live! Value card with both front and rear speaker outputs, but I don't want or need any more than a 2.1 system this time around, as I never watch movies or play games, so surround sound is a waste of money. I play the occasional mp3, but I'm more concerned about music composition and playback, so decent sound is a must. Thanks for any ideas :-) . David -- The dragon cast his wet, rheumy eyes, heavy-lidded with misery, over his kingdom-a malodorous, rot-ridden swamp, with moss cloaking brooding, gloomy cypresses, tree trunks like decayed teeth rising from stagnant ponds, creatures with mildewed fur and scales whom the meanest roadside zoo would have rejected--and hoped the antidepressants would kick in soon.
Re: Telstraclear boo boo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only knew about it 'cause i went to channel 63 and it was there in a box with black boarder around it. Also it was on their web site (telstraclear) and on Paradises. but they could've sent emails out as a warning at least. Apparently they sent a snail-mail letter to all their business customers informing them of the outage, and I'm told it was posted on several newsgroups (don't know which ones). David -- James found Spider-Man 2 to be quite an average movie, like a superhero episode of Dawson's Creek, but not from the excellent first season, nor from the horrible final seasons, but rather from somewhere in the mid-run of the show, when it wasn't as good as it used to be but it didn't totally suck yet.
Broken Mirror ?
Hi there, I've been using ftp://fast.co.nz/suse/i386/ as a local SuSE mirror, but it's been offline for the last few days. Does anyone know whether this is likely to be permanent, or just a glitch in the system ? Alternatively, are there any other NZ mirrors for SuSE that I can use ? I'm aware of these so far (though every SuSE link appears dead): http://www.wlug.org.nz/NewZealandLinuxMirrors http://www.linux.net.nz/node/view/75 http://www.debian.co.nz/downloads Thanks, David -- She walked toward him, her dress billowing in the wind -- not a calm and predictable billows like the sea, but more like the billowing of a mildewed shower curtain in a cheap motel where one has to dance around to avoid touching it while trying to rinse off soap.
Re: Broken Mirror ?
John Carter wrote: Ooo. Broken Mirror! 7 years Bad luck for You! Oh no, not again... David -- The night resembled nothing so much as the nose of a giant Labrador in excellent health: cold, black, and wet.
[OT] Recommendations for CV/Resume Writers
I want to get a new CV/Resume written, and being a bit of a geek I'm not being that good at self-promotion ;-) , so I'd like a little help doing this. Does anyone have any recommendations for companies that produce good 'technical' CV's for IT personnel (programmers in particular) ? Many thanks, David -- Falcon was her name and she was quite the bird of prey, sashaying past her adolescent admirers from one anchor store to another, past the kiosks where earrings longed to lie upon her lobes and sunglasses hoped to nestle on her nose, seemingly the beginning of a beautiful friendship with whomsoever caught the eye of the mall tease, Falcon.
Apologies for leaving early
Hi all (especially Nick), Sorry I had to leave part way through your talk last night Nick. No offence intended. Unfortunately I had another commitment at 9pm, and the lack of an extension cord meant we started later than I'd hoped. Rather annoying, as this was a topic I especially wanted to hear about :-( . Next time I'll make sure I bring an extension cord myself, just in case ;-) . David -- The night resembled nothing so much as the nose of a giant Labrador in excellent health: cold, black, and wet.
Re: open app on specified desktop
FWIW, Enlightenment does this, with a Remember feature that lets you specify the desktop, screen location, window size, sticky-ness, etc. I use it myself. Don't know if you can actually rename the desktops, though. David On 17/08/2005 6:05:26 a.m., Roger Searle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'd like to be able to make certain applications open on a specified desktop? For example when clicking a desktop or panel shortcut to have thunderbird and firefox always open on desktop 2 which I have renamed web, and shells and yast always open on a desktop named admin. Plenty of info on google about virtual desktops but I just can't seem to find what I 'm trying to do. At this point I am assuming this is possible. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Cheers, Roger
Re: August Meeting.
I'd like to vote for Option 4 please, as I've been thinking about compiling a kernel myself in the last week or so. David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp Christopher Sawtell wrote: Greetings List. The speaker I had in my sights for the August meeting has told be that he is now not available. Therefore there are a number of choices. 1) Attempt to find another speaker who can talk authoritively about the Xen virtual machine monitor. Volunteers please. 2) Have another Clinic / Fixups evening. Is there a demand? 3) I have a member wantling to speak on The File Managers available under Linx. This talk will probably take a short half of an evening, so we need another speaker for the other half. 4) A member has asked me to give him a Kernel Compilation HOWTO in person. Would any other list members be interested in this as a subject for a talk? 5) Any other suggestions from list members would be most welcome.
Re: Error trying to 'make' K3b - SOLVED
david merriman wrote: Rex Johnston wrote: snip Have a closer look at it. Is it a symbolic link to a file that is missing? I have a /usr/lib/libtag.so.1, but no /usr/lib/libtag.so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -p | fgrep libtag libtag.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libtag.so.1 Other than that, the command, while being unneccessarily repetitive, looks fine Cheers, Rex I had a look in the /usr/lib/ directory, and both files appeared to be there, libtag.so and libtag.so.1. I tried making a symlink to libtag.so, and it said 'file exists'. That's what made me think something else must be missing. I'll try 'ldconfig' tonight when I get home. Thanks, David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp Yes, you were right, Rex. I had closer look at the /usr/lib/libtag.so file, and indeed it pointed to a file which had been deleted a while ago. One thing that caught me out was that there were two separate copies of libtag.so, one in /usr/lib, and the other in /usr/local/lib. Once I created a new link to /usr/lib/libtag.so, the 'make' command worked correctly. Thanks for your help, David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp.
Error trying to 'make' K3b
I've just downloaded and compiled the source code for K3b 0.12. I'm trying to 'make' it now, but I get the error below: ... /make[4]: Entering directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.12/plugins/decoder/mp3' if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I./../../../libk3b/core -I./../../../libk3b/plugin -I./../../../libk3bdevice -I/usr/local/include/taglib -I/usr/lib/qt3//include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -MT k3bmad.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/k3bmad.Tpo -c -o k3bmad.lo k3bmad.cpp; \ then mv -f .deps/k3bmad.Tpo .deps/k3bmad.Plo; else rm -f .deps/k3bmad.Tpo; exit 1; fi /usr/lib/qt3//bin/moc ./k3bmaddecoder.h -o k3bmaddecoder.moc if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I./../../../libk3b/core -I./../../../libk3b/plugin -I./../../../libk3bdevice -I/usr/local/include/taglib -I/usr/lib/qt3//include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -MT k3bmaddecoder.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/k3bmaddecoder.Tpo -c -o k3bmaddecoder.lo k3bmaddecoder.cpp; \ then mv -f .deps/k3bmaddecoder.Tpo .deps/k3bmaddecoder.Plo; else rm -f .deps/k3bmaddecoder.Tpo; exit 1; fi /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -o libk3bmaddecoder.la -rpath /usr/lib/kde3 -avoid-version -module -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -L/usr/X11R6/libk3bmad.lo k3bmaddecoder.lo -lkdecore -lmad -L/usr/local/lib -ltag ../../../libk3b/libk3b.la -lm -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib g++: /usr/lib/libtag.so: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [libk3bmaddecoder.la] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.12/plugins/decoder/mp3' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.12/plugins/decoder' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.12/plugins' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.12' make: *** [all] Error 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] k3b-0.12]$/ There's a line above which says: /g++: /usr/lib/libtag.so: No such file or directory/ but that file does exist, so presumably a different file is missing ? I can't tell which file it's asking for from the code above, and Google hasn't helped so far. Can anyone tell what file(s) I should be checking for ? Many thanks, David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp.
Re: Error trying to 'make' K3b
Rex Johnston wrote: david merriman wrote: /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common-o libk3bmaddecoder.la -rpath /usr/lib/kde3 -avoid-version -module -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -L/usr/X11R6/libk3bmad.lo k3bmaddecoder.lo -lkdecore -lmad -L/usr/local/lib -ltag ../../../libk3b/libk3b.la -lm -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib g++: /usr/lib/libtag.so: No such file or directory Have a closer look at it. Is it a symbolic link to a file that is missing? I have a /usr/lib/libtag.so.1, but no /usr/lib/libtag.so [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/ldconfig -p | fgrep libtag libtag.so.1 (libc6) = /usr/lib/libtag.so.1 Other than that, the command, while being unneccessarily repetitive, looks fine Cheers, Rex I had a look in the /usr/lib/ directory, and both files appeared to be there, libtag.so and libtag.so.1. I tried making a symlink to libtag.so, and it said 'file exists'. That's what made me think something else must be missing. I'll try 'ldconfig' tonight when I get home. Thanks, David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
Running WindowMaker
Hi there, I've just compiled and built the latest version of WindowMaker (0.91.0), but I can't figure out how to make it appear in the drop-down list of available environments when I log in (KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, etc). I'm currently using Enlightenment 0.16.7.1 on Mandrake 10.1. A long time ago, in a previous life, I installed it via RPM, and it was available and working fine (though I never did work out how to add applications, but that's another story...), but this time I decided to try compiling it myself. Everything appeared to build successfully, now I just need to make it run :-) . I've read the FAQs, searched the forums, tried Google, etcetera and so forth, but haven't noticed anything that seems relevant to my system. Any suggestions ? Thanks, David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp.
Kernel Panic when booting with new kernel
Hi there, First a bit of background... I've been having problems playing DVD's on my pc (Mandrake 10, 1GB RAM, AthlonXP 2.4MHz, nVidia GeForce2 MX400). Not crucial, I just wanted to see if I could. I've tried Xine and Kaffeine, and usually I just get a green window with intermittent sound, or random garbage, and eventually a dialog box telling me that too many frames are being dropped. So I thought I know, I'll try installing the latest nVidia driver and see if that speeds things up. I check the nVidia website, download the driver, RTFM, and there are references to installing the kernel source. My existing kernel is 2.6.3-7. Then I think why not update the kernel as well, just for the hell of it. You can see where this is going, can't you... I get the kernel (kernel-2.6.8.1.24mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm) and install that. I update my /etc/lilo.conf file as per the instructions, and run lilo -v. Upon rebooting and selecting the new kernel I get the following messages: snip Creating device files Creating root device Mounting root filesystem with flags notail mount: error 6 mounting reiserfs flags notail well, retrying without the option flags mount: error 6 mounting reiserfs well, retrying read-only without any flag mount: error 6 mounting reiserfs pivotroot: pivot_root(/sysroot,/sysroot/initrd) failed: 2 umount /initrd/sys failed: 2 umount /initrd/sys failed: 2 initrd finished Mounted devfs on /dev Freeing unused kernel memory: 200k freed Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. = My / and /home partitions are Reiserfs. From what I've read via Google, it seems possible that the new kernel doesn't have Reiserfs support enabled. Does this sound plausible ? What's the best way to tell ? If so, what's the best way to correct it ? I can boot with the previous kernel quite happily, so it's not the end of the world. Here's the contents of my /etc/lilo.conf file if it helps: = # File generated by DrakX/drakboot # WARNING: do not forget to run lilo after modifying this file default=linux boot=/dev/hde map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt prompt nowarn timeout=100 message=/boot/message menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80 image=/boot/vmlinuz-i686-up-4GB label=linux-i686-up-4GB root=/dev/hde1 initrd=/boot/initrd-i686-up-4GB.img append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk label=263-7 root=/dev/hde1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.3-7mdk.img append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M read-only other=/dev/fd0 label=floppy unsafe other=/dev/hde3 label=windows image=/boot/win4lin label=win4lin root=/dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M reboot=warm vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB label=263i686up4G-7 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB.img append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M reboot=warm read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk label=263-7-2005-5-5 root=/dev/hde1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.3-7mdk.img append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M reboot=warm vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz label=linux root=/dev/hde1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M reboot=warm read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB label=alt_263i686up4G-7 root=/dev/hde1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.3-7mdk-i686-up-4GB.img append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M reboot=warm vga=788 read-only image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-24mdk label=2681-24 root=/dev/hde1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.8.1-24mdk.img append=devfs=mount resume=/dev/hde5 splash=silent mem=1024M reboot=warm read-only = Thanks, David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp.
Graphical Gentoo Installer In The Works
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/04/27/1836227.shtml?tid=189tid=190tid=106 "Without a doubt, Gentoo has set itself apart from every other distro out there. Because it's source-based, it's notorious for its speed. Because of emerge, it's notorious for being simple to maintain. And because of its "install system" (if it can be called that), it's notorious for scaring off potential users before they even get to try it. Well, that's all going to change, because there is a graphical Gentoo installer in the works. It can run with a dialog frontend that bears a striking similarity to Ubuntu, or for faster systems a GTK+ frontend is available." David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
Re: Graphical Gentoo Installer In The Works
Gnome, Sweet Gnome... :) David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp Richard Tindall wrote: All roads lead to Gnome.. :-)
Re: [OT] Hitchhiker's Guide
Count me in. David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp Andrew Errington wrote: Okay, so here's a thread so we can be sociable and arrange a movie night I propose the Palms or Riccarton, providing we can get seats in the biggest screen at either venue. If there is enough interest we can buy a book of vouchers, bringing the cost down to $10 each. Andy
Re: Ubuntu Down Under - Sydney, 25 - 30 April
We stayed in a very good hostel in Sydney 2-3 years ago, called Wake Up! Sydney. Very reasonable cost, very good rooms, and just across the road from the Central Railway Station. http://www.wakeup.com.au/location/index.asp David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp IT Support NZ wrote: Douglas Royds wrote: Ubuntu conference coming up in Sydney, if anyone happens to be going Does anyone have any recommendations for places to stay? I haven't sorted out accommodation yet. The venue is the Vibe Rushcutters hotel, which is just out-of-town from Kings Cross, afaik. Try looking up The Wattle KX Kings Cross - Around $60 per night. (shared twin) Macleay Lodge - Around $50.00 per night (shared twin) There is also Addison's On Anzac for around 70-90 per night for a shared twin / triple room. It has gym, kitchen etc as well. Don't know how close they are to where you want to be but they might be a start. The sydney rail service is extremely good and allows you to cheaply get from one place to another so finding a lodge within walking distance of the underground in a chaper area if very doable. Trains run every ten minutes or so to central circle and normally within 15 minutes to other areas. Shane
Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)
Consider it done :) David Robert the Bruce Merriman On 7/04/2005 9:11:56 a.m., Nick Rout ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: or Bruce: http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_scripts/bruces.asp That skit, and particularly the concluding song, still crack me up. On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:00:24 +1200 Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:40, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Sorry, here are too many Roberts. If you others can all change your names to Robert it will avoid the confusion. -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz -- Nick Rout
Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI
On 4/04/2005 1:06:00 p.m., Volker Kuhlmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If you know of some place selling the Microsoft ergonomic keyboards (the one without all the extra media crap keys on it) with a USB connector please let me know. How about these ? Not Microsoft, but similar : http://www.ascent.co.nz/mn-product-spec.asp?pid=119733 http://www.ascent.co.nz/mn-product-spec.asp?pid=117922 David
Re: Hotmail
I just sent a message from my Mandrake 10.1 PC, via Thunderbird, to my Hotmail account, and got a notification a few seconds later from Gaim saying a new message had arrived. MailWasher (Linux Beta) saw it too. Didn't bother checking via the web interface. David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp. Ralph Stoker wrote: Has anyone out there who is using Linux / Slingshot found that Hotmail addressees will no longer receive mail from a non MS OS? Call me paranoid ..but me thinks this is the next 'turn of the screw' (screw you) by MSwits Ralph
SOLVED - Re: Error compiling K3B
Hi there, Got it sorted. A later version of k3b (0.11.20) was made available, so I downloaded and tried to compile that. This one failed too, BUT it complained about different packages this time, and those packages I was able to install successfully without blowing my monthly bandwidth: snip /usr/bin/ld: warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/lib/libqtmcop.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.6 /usr/bin/ld: warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/lib/libqtmcop.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.6 /snip I used urpmf to find out what package contained 'libqtmcop.so' and installed that (libarts1-devel). Then I ran 'make' again, and got another conflict with a different file, 'libfam.so'. So I ran urpmf again, and installed 'libfam0-devel' plus a couple of dependencies. This time 'make' ran perfectly, 'make install' ran too, and I now have a working K3B again. David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp. david merriman wrote: Hi, I'm having difficulty running and compiling K3B. I'm running Mandrake 10.1 with the Enlightenment desktop. Recently I installed a whole bunch of updates via the MCC, and I noticed several days later that K3B no longer ran. I'm assuming something I updated broke this, but I don't know for certain. I haven't used it for a while, so it may have happened beforehand. When I clicked on the menu item to run it, nothing happened, so I tried starting it from the console, and got this message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] david]$ k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] david]$ I didn't know how to fix that, and Google wasn't terribly helpful to me. So next I downloaded the source code and tried compiling it. './configure' worked, and returned without any errors. however, 'make' ran for a while, then stopped with this error: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libstdc++.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/libartskde.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.5 /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-36] to Arts::StdSynthModule::stop()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-48] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamEnd()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-32] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::start()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-40] to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamInit()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-44] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamStart()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-48] to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamEnd()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-40] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamInit()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-28] to Arts::StdSynthModule::autoSuspend()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-28] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::autoSuspend()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-36] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::stop()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-44] to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamStart()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-32] to Arts::StdSynthModule::start()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [k3b] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.11.19/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.11.19/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.11.19' make: *** [all] Error 2 I've tried installing and uninstalling various versions of 'libstdc++5-devel' and 'libstdc++6-devel', without making much difference. I can't uninstall 'libstdc++5' or 'libstdc++6' without uninstalling 1.2GB of other apps at the same time, so I'm kind of stuck here. I don't know what I need to look at in order to get K3B working. Does anyone have any salient advice to offer ? Thanks, David
Re: Win4Lin (inc. Noteworthy)
On 9/02/2005 9:43:59 a.m., linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz wrote: I think you both want rosegarden. my son believed for one short minute that i really had learned to play a Bach sonata on our (midi equipped) electric piano I did play around with RoseGarden briefly, but didn't really get into it. Maybe I should have another look. However, I do have a significant time investment in Noteworthy, and the Noteworthy Player is incredibly useful for many of my friends that I send music files to, so they can follow the bouncing ball (as it were) while the computer plays the notes and displays the notes and words on screen. Plus the .NWC files are tiny (2-3K for a typical song, including lyrics), making emailing music a much more pleasant task :-) . Having said that, when I'm giving people a finished song to learn, I usually cut them a CD anyway, so PC playback for them probably won't be as important as it is to me. Me, too. Any other music programme for Linux would do that (a) plays the tune through the computer speakers (b) prints the blobs and lines (c) allows cut-and-paste of those blobs and lines, including transpositions up and down the staff. Google has lead me to, apparently, any two out of the three. I'd love to save time by hearing advice. Ken McAllister -- David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
Re: Win4Lin (inc. Noteworthy)
Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:15:07 +1300 david merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did play around with RoseGarden briefly, but didn't really get into it. Maybe I should have another look. However, I do have a significant time investment in Noteworthy, and the Noteworthy Player is incredibly useful for many of my friends that I send music files to, so they can follow the bouncing ball (as it were) while the computer plays the notes and displays the notes and words on screen. Plus the .NWC files are tiny (2-3K for a typical song, including lyrics), making emailing music a much more pleasant task :-) . Tried wine? Yes, in fact I used to have Noteworthy running (kind of) under an old version of Wine, but when my PC died a death, I never bothered reinstalling it. Later I tried again with the latest (at the time) Wine version, but had no success running anything under it - my own failure to set it up correctly, I'm sure. Currently I boot into W2K whenever I want to use it, which is a pain. Rosegarden is pretty well summarised in its web page and the tour on here http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ It uses its own file format, but my limited experience of it is with importing midi files and playing/viewing/fiddling with them. if i added other audio (eg .wav files) I believe I could save the whole project as a rosegarden format file. when you import a midi file it generates the score on the fly. You can then edit notes etc. Now that I have a usb midi port i can also record what i play at the piano, as well as play midi stuff back to the piano (which, because it has nice samples from a real grand piano, sounds a lot better than the computer speakers.) All the stuff I do in Noteworthy is entered by hand, with no MIDI input at all. I've done a lot of work for the Contemporary A Cappella Society (www.casa.org) in the States, helping them tidy up hand-written arrangements and storing them as PDF files for their arrangement library. Noteworthy's ability to do everything via the keyboard has made entering music incredibly fast, and when you're peering at an almost-impossible-to-read scan of a hand-written page in a PDF file, the less effort required the better :-D . When I looked at RoseGarden, I didn't see how to enter notes, etc. by keyboard (I may just have missed it), so it seemed less useful at the time. Beyond that I have not fiddled much. I have only just got the usb midi thing. It took some work to get going (the usb device needs firmware, you plug it in, hot plug detects it, downloads the firmware, then restarts it and it gets a new product id and acts as a usb-audio device). I need to set up a nice little stand next to the piano to sit the laptop on so that its easy to control recording from the piano. As far as writing scores is concerned you should also take a look at lilypond. Yes, I did look at Lilypond a while ago. It certainly looks cool, and I've considered using it, but I'm not sure if it's worth it for the stuff I do. Most of the time, Noteworthy's output is fine. If Noteworthy could export to Lilypond, that would be perfect. Again, maybe I should have another look at it. It's certainly got more flexibility than Noteworthy in its output. David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
OT: Re: Sick of Gentoo already , and I haven't even managed to install
No, it merely demonstrates that only the Deities are perfect, a fact which we have all known for hundreds of years. You haven't read Terry Pratchett's Discworld series much, have you ? ;) To paraphrase (and probably misquote): Being an atheist on the Discworld is not generally considered a wise career move, on a world where the Gods come around to unbelievers' houses and throw rocks through the windows. David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
Re: Unusual drive activity attempting to install SusE
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I've been attempting to install SuSE 9.2 from a DVD ISO I downloaded and burnt The computer boots from the DVD fine, but as soon as the installer gets past the language and keyboard selection to the hardware side of things, and at each stage of the install thereafter, one of my two hard drives starts churning away - brp, brp, brp - twice a second for about 10 minutes at a time, before it finally stops and the installer goes to the next step. The installer is unresponsive while the drive is churning, but responds normally when it finally stops. I/O errors on the hard disk. I tried disconnecting that drive, and the SuSE installer was happy as a clam, going from one step to the next instantly. Plugged the drive back in, and back to Churn City again. Yes, no doubt about it. Good post btw, with all the info that may be relevant. You need to check out that drive. While it's getting stuck there must be errors logged in syslog (during install, peek around the other consoles - alt-f2, alt-f3 etc). Smartmontools is superb for querying the disk's own idea about its performance. Boot from your install media and select rescue system. When booted, log in as root. You want the smartctl command, though you'll have to read the man page for it somewhere other than the rescue system (no space for docu). Basics (for hda substitute appropriate device name): smartctl -a /dev/hda Display complete disk status. Of primary importance here are: Overall health status: if FAILED then it's a warranty / dustbin case Reallocated sectors: 1/month of disk lifetime are acceptable, sudden steep increase - warranty/dustbin Any unreadable sectors logged in the error log section. You may have to run smartctl -s on -S on -o on /dev/hda once, or once after boot, to enable the smart feature of the disk. You can run selftests with smartctl -t long /dev/hda smartctl -t short /dev/hda smartctl -t offline /dev/hda and use -a to query their status. Don't start another test before the previous is finished. The long one can run for an hour. I think you will find a region of some dead sectors on this disk. If this region increases in size - warranty/dustbin. Or use the disk as a study object for how bad disks behave, so you can spot it faster next time. Oh, to save you some time: Do *not* use badblocks to find out whether your disk is faulty. It is simply not geared to test contemporary disk technology in an appropriate manner. That is, on the extremely rare occasion when it does indeed find a fault, the disk is truely stuffed. In all other cases it doesn't see a fault while looking into the abyss, but it takes a very long time looking. There are a few minor purposes badblocks still serves, but its primary implied function is not one of them. Volker I finally got a chance to run 'smartctl' on that drive last night. Here's the result, after both a 'short' and 'long' test: *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] david]# smartctl -a /dev/hdf smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: ST340823A Serial Number:7EF1LE28 Firmware Version: 3.54 Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 4 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is:Thu Feb 3 01:30:37 2005 NZDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity was completed without error. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 422) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities:(0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. No Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability:
Unusual drive activity attempting to install SusE
Hi there, I've been attempting to install SuSE 9.2 from a DVD ISO I downloaded and burnt. I'm currently dual booting Mandrake 10.1 and Windows 2000, and wanted to try triple-booting with SuSE. The computer boots from the DVD fine, but as soon as the installer gets past the language and keyboard selection to the hardware side of things, and at each stage of the install thereafter, one of my two hard drives starts churning away - brp, brp, brp - twice a second for about 10 minutes at a time, before it finally stops and the installer goes to the next step. The installer is unresponsive while the drive is churning, but responds normally when it finally stops. I tried disconnecting that drive, and the SuSE installer was happy as a clam, going from one step to the next instantly. Plugged the drive back in, and back to Churn City again. I haven't completed the SuSE install yet, since I want to get this sorted first. The drive is a Seagate 40823A, 40GB, that originally came with the computer when I bought it. I also have a more recent Maxtor 6Y160P0, 160GB. The Maxtor is the primary master, with the Seagate as the primary slave. I have a Lite-On LDW-4515 DVD writer connected as the secondary master. All drives are connected to a Kouwell Ultra DMA IDE/SATA controller, using the IDE connection. Mandrake Control Center reports the IDE side as a VIA Technologies VT82C586 (Apollo), and the SATA side as a VIA VT8237 SATA-150. My motherboard is an Albatron KX600 Pro, v1.0 BIOS. I've tried disabling DMA in the BIOS, as well as the floppy drive (which I found doesn't work any more), and gone over the BIOS settings looking for anything suspicious, but no joy. I'm not sure how to progress from here. Any thoughts would be most welcome. Many Thanks, David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp.
Error compiling K3B
Hi, I'm having difficulty running and compiling K3B. I'm running Mandrake 10.1 with the Enlightenment desktop. Recently I installed a whole bunch of updates via the MCC, and I noticed several days later that K3B no longer ran. I'm assuming something I updated broke this, but I don't know for certain. I haven't used it for a while, so it may have happened beforehand. When I clicked on the menu item to run it, nothing happened, so I tried starting it from the console, and got this message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] david]$ k3b k3b: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTv0_n28_N4Arts16SynthModule_stub11autoSuspendEv [EMAIL PROTECTED] david]$ I didn't know how to fix that, and Google wasn't terribly helpful to me. So next I downloaded the source code and tried compiling it. './configure' worked, and returned without any errors. however, 'make' ran for a while, then stopped with this error: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libstdc++.so.6, needed by /usr/lib/libartskde.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.5 /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-36] to Arts::StdSynthModule::stop()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-48] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamEnd()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-32] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::start()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-40] to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamInit()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-44] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamStart()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-48] to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamEnd()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-40] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamInit()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-28] to Arts::StdSynthModule::autoSuspend()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-28] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::autoSuspend()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-36] to Arts::SynthModule_stub::stop()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-44] to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamStart()' /usr/lib/libartskde.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk [v:0,-32] to Arts::StdSynthModule::start()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [k3b] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.11.19/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.11.19/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/david/Downloads/k3b/k3b-0.11.19' make: *** [all] Error 2 I've tried installing and uninstalling various versions of 'libstdc++5-devel' and 'libstdc++6-devel', without making much difference. I can't uninstall 'libstdc++5' or 'libstdc++6' without uninstalling 1.2GB of other apps at the same time, so I'm kind of stuck here. I don't know what I need to look at in order to get K3B working. Does anyone have any salient advice to offer ? Thanks, David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp.
OT: Running Windows Viruses With Wine
I just had to share this... ;-) http://os.newsforge.com/os/05/01/25/1430222.shtml?tid=152tid=2tid=78tid=138 It just isn't fair that Windows users get all the viruses. I mean really, shouldn't Linux users be in on the fun as well? Well... thanks to the folks running the Wine project, Linux users can catch the virus bug too -- sort of. David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
Re: suse
You could try this: Novell offers free SuSE 9.2 download. Not time limited, fully installable http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20727 David The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp. Gareth Williams wrote: Hey all, I have a friend who just messed over his gentoo install rather badly. Putting gentoo zealotry aside for the moment, he's looking to install a different (gasp) distribution... Anyway, he's quite keen to have his auto* tools, which puts MDK out of the question ;) I told him that suse has quite a good reputation around here (and I'd quite like to take a peek at it myself ;) so maybe he should consider that. The problem is, suse personal seems to be only a single CD. Are there more CDs that one can legitimately obtain / distribute free-of-charge? If so, is there anyone on the list who'd swap us for some blanks? :) Cheers, Gareth ps. beware gmail reply-to
Re: VMWARE LUG offer ......
Dale Anderson wrote: Hi All Not sure if anyone is interested or not http://www.vmware.com/lugprex/lugPrez_login.jsp Cheers Dale. I'd be interested in a copy too. David -- The pen is mightier than the sword, but only if the sword is very small and the pen is very sharp
OT: The picture says it all...
http://esp.realcities.com/a/hBBwypcAPnpi4APtV1IAM7Lpp.APnpek19/gmsv980 David -- Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird
Re: Can someone explain please
You ain't seen nothin' ! If you want some *real* flaming, check out 'alt.os.linux.mandrake' sometime... David Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird
Re: [kelvyn@localhost kelvyn]$
Based on my limited understanding of these things, it looks like you're already logged in as user 'Kelvyn'. Try typing 'startx' and see if that brings up the desktop. Were you given the option at any point to automatically log in as a particular user (or words to that effect) ? David Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird motivated wrote: Ok, what am I meant to do at this prompt ? I really dont understand what it is trying to ask me. Going by the book I should have a pop-up asking for username/password then it brings up the desktop. I'm guessing I've done something wrong again but I'm getting closer each time. Regards Kelvyn.
Re: ignorate priciple's
It's also spelt 'principal' :) David No trees were harmed in the sending of this email, though a large number of electrons were severely inconvenienced Jude Reid wrote: His email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and its spelt Ignorant :P.
Way OT - was Re: Open Source...
eBhakta wrote: People really should be careful when challenging those involved with Hare Krishna. Their relationship with Open Source can very easily (and quickly) be severed, especially as there is nobody, and nothing, more powerful than Hare Krishna. :) I realise this has nothing to do with Linux, and I apologise, but I couldn't let it go past without asking: I'm curious - exactly *how* would that relationship would be severed ? Would they finally succumb to the Dark Side (ie. Windows), or are we talking terminate with extreme prejudice here ? Enquiring minds want to know... David When I go, I'd like to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Re: it's much quieter...
Steve Holdoway wrote: Jim, ... actually, I am. Not only is it a Kiwi product, it's from Chch - in fact, it's from the very office I'm in (: Fancy a copy? Steve Can I just say that I love MailWasher. I use (and am a beta-tester for) the Windows version at work, and I'm also beta-testing the Linux version at home too. David When I go, I'd like to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Re: Suggestions for limited-public-use terminal
Firefox can do it: http://tln.lib.mi.us/~amutch/pro/phoenix/kiosk.htm David When I go, I'd like to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers. C. Falconer wrote: Run no window manager... Stops a lot of problems! Which web browsers support kiosk mode? -Original Message- From: Roy Britten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:12 a.m. To: CLUG Subject: Suggestions for limited-public-use terminal So, a charity we're involved with has a stand at the upcoming Christchurch Food and Wine show. Assuming that I can source some hardware (anyone?), I'd like to set up a box to allow visitors to browse for information on a local copy of the group's website. I'm happy enough with setting up Apache or similar on localhost, but could use some advice on: - an appropriate browser environment that users can't close or alt-tab out of (something like the setups for internet café machines, perhaps) - enforcing http only (i.e., preventing users from browsing file://) - other security issues I should consider Cheers, Roy.
Re: File managers/browsers
I really like Krusader. http://krusader.sourceforge.net/home.php David When I go, I'd like to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers. Hamish McBrearty wrote: Hi all Having recently been through my laptop and given it a darn good clean out and removing unused packages (like KDE) I find myself looking for a new file manager/browser. I've switched to using Enlightenment but its file browser Evidence is a little lacking. Sure it looks fantastic but I'm told it still under heavy development for release with e17. So what do people recommend? I've tried Rox and didn't really like it, I've tried Endeavour 2 and wasn't impressed and I can't install Nautilus without installing most of Gnome, something I'd like to avoid. - Hamish McBrearty MCSE MCSA Network Engineer Rangi Ruru Girls' School 59 Hewitts Road Christchurch NEW ZEALAND Ph 03 355-6099 Fax 03 355-6027 CELL 021 999770 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: slashdot.org
Good, so it's not just me ! I wish I knew too. David Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket ? Christopher Sawtell wrote: I'm getting horrible withdrawal symptoms. Anybody know what's happend to them?
Re: slashdot.org
I haven't been able to see Slashdot for the last day or so: F:\Documents and Settings\davidping slashdot.org Pinging slashdot.org [66.35.250.150] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 66.35.250.150: Destination port unreachable. Reply from 66.35.250.150: Destination port unreachable. Reply from 66.35.250.150: Destination port unreachable. Reply from 66.35.250.150: Destination port unreachable. Ping statistics for 66.35.250.150: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms F:\Documents and Settings\david David Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket ? Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: http://slashdot.org/ Works for me. Is that the page you are after? Regards, Robert Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue. -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 31 March 2004 4:09 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: slashdot.org I'm getting horrible withdrawal symptoms. Anybody know what's happend to them?
Can't see entire 160GB drive under Mandrake 10
Hi, I'm using Mandrake 10.0 Community, with the 2.6 kernel. I've just installed a 160GB Maxtor DiamondPlus IDE drive (currently as 'hdb'), but Mandrake can only see 128GB of it. XP Pro on the same machine can see all 160GB fine. Googling suggests that the usual solutions appear to be: 1) Upgrade the BIOS 2) Install a new drive controller card My BIOS appears to be up-to-date AFAICT, and correctly reports the drive size. It's an Asus A7A266 motherboard, BIOS version 1012. The Asus site didn't show any later versions (though the site was so difficult to navigate, I might have missed it...). Since both the BIOS and XP can see the whole drive, wouldn't that indicate that the drive controller is OK ? From what I've read, the 2.6 kernel is supposed to handle drives over 160GB, whereas the 2.4 kernel doesn't. If I'm wrong about that, please correct me. I tried installing several different distros on the drive (erasing it completely each time), just to try them and the drive out. They were Lycoris, Turbo Linux, MEPIS, and Fedora Core 1 (all using the 2.4 kernel AFAIK). Turbo, MEPIS and Fedora all fell over and spat the dummy when trying to partition and format the drive. Lycoris succeeded, but still couldn't see the whole drive. I haven't had a chance to try installing a fresh copy of Mandrake 10 yet (well, I tried, but it insisted on installing on the blank 10GB on my original drive, despite me telling it not to...). Can anyone offer any pointers as to how I can resolve this ? Many thanks, David -- Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket ?
URMPI sources for Mandrake 10 in NZ
Hi there, I've installed Mandrake 10.0 Community, and I was wondering if anyone knows of a NZ mirror that I can point URPMI to, in order to minimize my international traffic ? Nothing leapt out at me when I Googled for 'urpmi nz' and 'urpmi zealand'. Thanks, David -- Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket ?
