Re: why oh why...
On 16/06/10 09:43, Steve Holdoway wrote: Just no output on either device. Can anyone point me to a decent, up to date ( this is ubuntu 9.10 ) troubleshooting guide. I was having problems with audio on a Kubuntu system updated to 9.10 with pulse audio installed. I installed 10.4 to clean up all the things I had - um, fixed, and have not had a problem with audio since. I do have some pulse audio client stuff and a VLC plugin installed - but not the server stuff. -- __ Don Robertson Information and Communications Technology d...@robertson.net.nz www.robertson.net.nz 021 294 1452 03 322 8172
Re: Sound recording on linux
On 23/05/10 22:01, Andrew Errington wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:31:56 Julian Visch wrote: Have a huge audio tape collection and think it is high time I started converting them into some form of digital format while tape decks still exist. What would people recommend, SoundStudio seems to be able to record but these files will be huge, should I be converting to vorbis or mp3 or what? thanks Audacity to record the files as WAV audio, then FLAC to archive them on your server and MP3 to carry them around. Delete the WAV once you've finished twiddling with it. A I have used audacity in the past and it worked fine. At the time I thought it was such a shame I could not just get them out of the library on CD and rip them - after all I had paid for them at least once - some I had on tape and vinyl - but that would be illegal and I could not possibly do that. don -- __ Don Robertson Information and Communications Technology d...@robertson.net.nz www.robertson.net.nz 021 294 1452 03 322 8172
Re: Ditto: OT: Free external 56k modem
On 17/03/10 11:59, Chris Downie wrote: I too have a modem free to a good home. It's a Dynalink e-modem (1456VQE-C). Complete, in original box. Please contact me off-list if you want it. Cheers, Chris Hi - any modems still available? I know someone trying to get a winmodem running and they are having problems with drivers etc. If anyone has a spare modem that runs on Ubuntu, I can find it a good home. Don BTW - no idea whats wrong. -- __ Don Robertson Information and Communications Technology d...@robertson.net.nz www.robertson.net.nz 021 294 1452 03 322 8172
Re: Hi I need a disk for ubuntu 9.10
On 22/03/10 09:37, Patelkhana Mohan Rao wrote: Can anybody help in sparing ubuntu9.10 disk pl. mohan I have a Kubuntu 9.10 iso if that will help. Also Ubuntu 9.10 for PPC :-| Which parts of town do you frequent? If you are desperate, I can get Ubuntu for you - but if you can wait, I'll be grabbing the LTS versions due next month. don -- __ Don Robertson Information and Communications Technology d...@robertson.net.nz www.robertson.net.nz 021 294 1452 03 322 8172
Re: This years format.
St Patrick's Day? I'll have to think about that. The 17th would 10001, which has a certain symmetry. Or , the product of 11 and 101. 11 would of course be a secret meeting we'd all have on our own, and you'd need to go to the public 101 meeting to understand the meeting. I feel a bit guilty about not making it to more meetings, and not making an effort to get other people along. I am keen to help out, but I don't always keep up to date with the list, so I'd need at least a couple of days notice and maybe a phone call. If their is going to be a fixit up evening, we should make an effort to promote it in other organisations/groups we participate in. I'm on some tree-loving hippy scum lists, and some business lists ... Posting a link like this http://openconcept.ca/NGOsAndOpenSource might get some people along. On 10 February 2010 12:10, yuri yur...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be at the Twisted Hop on Wednesday next week 17-Feb-2010 and having something to eat during the evening. See folks there then? Can't do wenzdays but I'll be there on St Paddy's day. Actually, no. That's a wenzday too. I'll see if I can skip my wenzday commitment for my favourite saint. Yuri
Re: This years format.
If their is going to be a fixit up evening, we should make an effort Fixit evenings aren't really compatible with a social evening at a pub. There's too much beer swilling about for a start, and dragging your desktop computer in will get you a lot stranger looks than a small subtle laptop, not to mention the reaction to lugging in printers and scanners, which seem to be the source of many frustrations and fixit requests. OTOH I'd like someone to show me how to do something useful with bluetooth and my cellphone! I was thinking if there was a fixit / install meeting along the lines of the GNUz meetings. Well, actually, I meant the GNUz meeting. Wandering about with a bag full of cables - might last as long as a Brazilian in the underground.
Re: I have a dream of promiscuous sharing...
On 03/02/10 21:36, cy...@xnet.co.nz wrote: But so many people have detached themselves from our community by walling themselves in a closed garden of sound. Ear Phones In, Volume Up. Bah. Kids today. In my day we could wall ourselves off with a newspaper. Didn't need no new fangled Walkman gizmos to play our 78's.
Re: Netbook recommendations?
On 08/01/10 19:58, Roy Britten wrote: So, I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket and I'm quite keen on getting a netbook / small formfactor notebook. If you are willing to wait a while ... and maybe buy a hundred ... and take a trip to Thailand ... http://www.norhtec.com/products/gecko/index.html The video is pretty interesting too.
Re: Netbook recommendations?
On 13/01/10 11:14, John Carter wrote: On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, Don Robertson wrote: On 08/01/10 19:58, Roy Britten wrote: So, I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket and I'm quite keen on getting a netbook / small formfactor notebook. If you are willing to wait a while ... and maybe buy a hundred ... and take a trip to Thailand ... http://www.norhtec.com/products/gecko/index.html The video is pretty interesting too. Linux Journal had a review of this thing... http://alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm Followed the link - but goes to a Touch Book with a removable keyboard. I have always wondered why laptops with removable keyboards are so rare. I hate having my hands up by the screen and having to hunch down to see it. The mac Duo looked cool for those with a company credit card. Anyway - what I like about the Nortec is that almost everything can be easily swapped out, and you don't get hit for expensive new batteries and power supplies. A replacement power supply for my Mac laptop would have been $US150 - all because Steve didn't like the look of the rubber cable protector on the cool glowing laptop plug. As for the $#^$% battery ... So I am a bit sensitive on the issue :-| Nortec also do some pretty cool 'microclients' for LTSP, firewalls etc. They are really aimed at the third world education market. Apparently it has hackable hardware as well, although they weren't too impressed by it's stability. I suspect they just finding out that writing CPU portable C code is hardish, and not many programmers do it properly. Ah well, portability bugs are more often than not latent defects anyway. So it's all Good for linux in general. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz New Zealand
Re: power board issue
When I was in Cambodia, we got a pretty good server donated to us, and I set it all up. One of the guys authorized to spend the library's *own* money went out to buy a powerboard and moved the server to another room. We switched it on and about an hour later I smelt plastic. The powerboard had melted into a puddle of plastic. They had spent about a dollar on a powerboard for their $2000 odd server. I used better wiring on my table lamps. I wonder what would have happened if we'd all gone home with that thing plugged in. It's not worth trying to save money on powerboards.
Re: pulse audio , was Re: Xfce to Stump
Derek Smithies wrote: For those of you who do not know, pulse stands for pathetic useless linux sound engineers. Well - that explains a lot. Sound is not something I care about too much. I don't want to stream audio across the network or anything - I just have a couple of desktop speakers and now a microphone to use with Skype. Audio just drives me nuts. I seem to need to change the settings every time I want to use it. Alert sounds are either so soft I can't hear them or they blast out at a volume that makes me jump off my chair. Everything uses a different audio control in the mixer panel - I suppose I should go find out what PCM, LFE and MUX stand for. But really - should I need to? I'm not running a mixing desk or anything. With my Windows and Mac machines, everything just works. I don't remember having had an issue. Well, not since Win95. now, the pulse people say that ubuntu failed cause they say ubuntu did not read the source enough and participate etc etc.. Rubbish. The simple truth is that the pulse people failed to document and write usable front ends. The other thing about Pulse is people will post a question - basic pulse features aren't working, how do I fix it? - and they'll get a reply saying pulse is better and it can do all this other stuff. Yeah - well, some people think beta max was better, even though people had to change tapes half way through a movie. In the mean time, don't skype me - I use Linux. Maybe it is time to do a fresh install and rid myself of all the fixes and tweaks I have made - see if using the defaults works. And get rid of the beta and other software I promise myself I'll only install into a VM next time :-) Don attachment: don.vcf
Re: FOSS users meet Weds 4 Nov
Hi - sorry I missed the meeting. I have the Kubuntu netbook edition on USB too - was going to bring it along. Working outside and completely lost track of time. Dang this new fangled daylight saving ... Don Rik Tindall wrote: Thanks Don, All distros show tell welcome, to trade. See you tomorrow guys. Don Robertson wrote: Um - anything new for this meeting ;-) I'll bring a copy of Kubuntu 9.10 ... and an iso file. Don BTW - the upgrade tool says it will be somewhere between two hours and two days to upgrade. What: Free Open-Source Software user group Ubuntu GNU/Linux-based tuition Where: South Learning Centre, South Library, 66 Colombo St, Beckenham (use rear door) When: Wednesday 4 Nov 7.30pm-9.30pm, = 1st Weds monthly Cheers, Rik attachment: don.vcf
Re: karmic upgrade broken name resolution
Roger Searle wrote: SOLVED. I have: lan (192.168.1.0) -- wrt54gl (192.168.1.1, dhcp server starting at .100, wan ip 10.1.1.3) -- dsl-502t (10.1.1.1, dhcp giving out .3 to wrt54gl) -- internet. Same router, same modem, same ip's, same problem, same solution :-) I often get some buzzing on the phone line when the modem is switched on. not sure if it is the phone lines or the modem. Have you had problems like that? Don attachment: don.vcf
Re: karmic upgrade broken name resolution
Just been trying to work out why my network was not working after an upgrade to Kubuntu 9.10. I use my router to pass dns requests onto a server in the internet. Resolv.conf looks pretty similar to that below - but without the first comment line. This stopped working. When I tried dig, I would get 1.0.0.0 returned. I removed the router as a dns (leaving the internet servers) and name resolution was restored. I changed the static config on the Kubuntu box, and the DHCP settings in the router before I thought to test it from another machine - all of which use DHCP. There did not seem to be any iptable entries to block the router/port, and the routing tables seemed fine. I am on a different machine now, and just sshed into the Kubuntu box, and the router seems to have started resolving to it again. odd. I haven't touched the router recently. So no idea really. A joott. Unless ... your not on Telecom are you? While I a on about networking - a question - I had not been using network manager, but I have just enabled it. If I change some settings in a connection, I cannot get them applied without rebooting. I tried switching to another connection and switching back, restarting network manager, restarting the network, but I do not get the new values. On 31/10/09 6:44 PM, Roger Searle wrote: Hi, following an upgrade to Karmic last night, I have no name resolution to the interweb. LAN functions are fine, samba shares good, can ping other machines, router, gateway, and can ping paradise/TCL name servers and can ping www.google.com by name so have a degree of name resolution. I can see which of my skype contacts are online. However all browsing in firefox returns connection has timed out and thunderbird can't locate paradise pop or google imap servers. I still have the same resolv.conf file from before the upgrade: #Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 10.1.1.1 nameserver 203.97.78.43 nameserver 203.97.78.44 The network connection applet near the clock shows Auto eth0 as active and lists the same name servers as per resolv.conf, and the static ip address for that machine. ifconfig also shows eth0 with that same ip address though I'm not sure where it is getting that from, certainly not via /etc/network/interfaces and the control module for network connections doesn't actually list any wired connections. Changing the network management backend to wicd doesn't seem to help (and doesn't show a network applet with status etc either). I'd be very appreciative of any pointers on how to resolve this? Cheers, Roger
FOSS users meet Weds 4 Nov
Um - anything new for this meeting ;-) I'll bring a copy of Kubuntu 9.10 ... and an iso file. Don BTW - the upgrade tool says it will be somewhere between two hours and two days to upgrade. attachment: don.vcf
Re: Uni contact for an RMS talk
is there any update on this talk? And do you need any help with anything?
Re: Backing up server?
Solor Vox wrote: I would also like to point out you should *never* backup SQL databases via file method while running. You either have to shut down the SQL server and backup the files, or use another tool such as mysqldump/pg_dump/etc. to dump the live data. Nice MySQL Backup script. http://sourceforge.net/projects/automysqlbackup/ This may seem like a lot of information, but use what fits your needs. If you have SQL databases, go for the *dump commands. If you're just grabbing user data, then tar/rsync are good tools. If you want an easy system backups, try using a program such as BackupPC http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ cheers sV I have been using Bacula (http://www.bacula.org/en/) but I have been hearing a lot about BackupPC recently. Bacula has a lot of features, and can run scripts such as the one above before backing up, but you need to restore from the command line - which some people don't like. I have recovered so infrequently I don't remember the command. BackupPC appears to have a much nicer and useful GUI. don
Re: The linux ipod dilemma - what do you suggest?
2009/7/29 Aidan Gauland wgsil...@no8wireless.co.nz: I'd suggest telling Apple to get stuffed, and take your business elsewhere. If enough people took that attitude, instead of subscribing to Apple's dictatorship, then perhaps they would no longer have so much control over this particular market. I'd agree - and tell the gym to get stuffed as well. Ask if they can recommend another gym. I'm not really that concerned with the difficulties New Zealanders have watching videos in gyms, but iTunes University really pisses me off. Lots of educational institutions put material onto iTunes U, lots of people in developing countries want to access this material, but their stupid governments are trying to avoid getting locked into propretary software, and want to use Linux - paricularly in education. But Apple drives people to Microsoft. Ironic, huh?
Re: Linux and RAM size
Well, we didn't need any of that new fangeled ram - we could only afford to use 0's, so we didn't need it. 1's are for sissies. But we were happy. And if you tell the kids today, they won't believe you.
Re: USB to VGA
well as using EdUbuntu rather than windows. Hmm - edubuntu. Is St Margaret's not eligible for Government support? I understood schools could get support for SUSE paid for by the Ministry of Education. I suppose St Margarets is still private? But anyway, are you using any of the server stuff from Edubuntu? I had a look at open source school management software about a year ago, and SchoolTool looked pretty good, even though it was not finished. It was supposed to be released with 9.04. There was also a tool called italc that can be used to send demos from the teachers computer to all the students computers, to take control of a computer, to monitor all class computers and more. If I remember correctly, it is included in Edubuntu. http://italc.sourceforge.net/ don
Re: Kubuntu help please
2009/5/17 Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com: My Kubuntu PPC 8.10 - 9.04 upgrade locked me out of my Mac G4. Have you any idea why? I did not investigate. I only use it to check email and browse the web, and OS X is still on it, so it is not something I want to spend much time on, no data I need to save. I would get a KDE login screen but could not login. Also the screen locks and slowly goes white when I try to switch to another console, or log into a text session. I am very interested to hear this because it is quite a possibility that I will be asked to install a KDE based application on a PPC Mac portable. This is a PowerBook Ti 500 - and it seems to differ from other PowerBook Ti's - most posts on the Ubuntu PPC forum about PB Ti's refer to different video cards and some other hardware. Installing was a pain - mainly because of the graphics. I had to install a text system then install X and KDE (using the alternate CD). Should not have set it up to boot into a graphical login. I never got suspend to disk to work correctly. I would check for problems with the specific hardware. I always thought that there was not that much variation with Macs - not as much as there is in the x86 world, anyway - but there seems to be more than I thought. You should really ask if it is worth it. I have been trying 9.04 - and as soon as I work out one problem, I hit another one. Can't find the CD I booted off - can't find repositories - can download but not install software ... etc All similar - but not quite the same as 8.10 :-( -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: Kubuntu help please
I had KDE4 installed on Ubuntu 8.10, and recently installed Kubuntu 9.04 on my x86 desktop and have had none of the problems you describe. System Settings all work fine - but I have never had much joy with Network manager. My Kubuntu PPC 8.10 - 9.04 upgrade locked me out of my Mac G4. If Kubuntu is the bastard sibling, Kubuntu PPC is disowned bastard sibling :-(
Re: Swap was Re: Migrating to a new hard drive
Craig Falconer wrote: John Carter wrote, On 26/02/09 13:04: Swap usually 2 * ram, although disk is _so_ very very very much slower than ram these days and ram is getting so much larger. I'd perhaps drop that to swap == sizeof ram. Spot the old fart! Try sudo swapoff -a on your linux machine, and then run it like normal for a few weeks. I bet you'll notice no differences. And now with ram at $25-$30 for 1GB DDR2 its cheap to have lots of memory in your PC. 8GB (4x2GB) Adata DDR2 800 MHz is $200+GST Sadly DDR1 is three times the price of DDR2, so those with old machines are out of luck. I was trying to get my machine to Suspend to Ram or Suspend to Disk after a period of inactivity, but kept getting errors about there not being enough swap space. I increased the size of the swap partition to something ridiculous - 4x RAM, and can Suspend to RAM, but not to Disk. I am tempted to try turning off swap and seeing if I can suspend the machine. BTW - it is a desktop machine. Don begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Kubuntu - good bad and ugly
yuri wrote: 2009/2/21 Phill Coxon wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 10:59 +1300, Roger Searle wrote: I'm sure google will tell you how to get to 4.2 and would be worth the effort. http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 Those instructions include adding a repository with the word experimental as part of the URL. I believe this sort of thing is what hosed my PCLinuxOS install (which prompted me to switch in the first place). I am a bit reluctant to use 'experimental' software as well -but in this case I made an exception. It also warns that 4.2 is beta and may break things. I don't want to break things again. I'd rather go to bed early tonight and enjoy my wife than stay up late fixing things again. It broke some 'plasmids', and I finally accepted I would have to do without Quanta+ - but I use kate mostly anyway. I do not remember if it broke anything else. Had a lot of problems getting sound to work with flash - but I don't think that is a KDE problem. I'd tell you what I did but I tried so many 'fixes' I am not sure now what worked. Hey, I'll probably cave in to peer pressure and give 4.2 a try. I'm coming to the next meeting with a big rubber mallet if it turns to custard though. Yuri begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Updating compaq bios from linux
Phill Coxon wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to update the bios on an old Compaq Presario that I'm using for FreeNAS (www.freenas.org). I would be interested to hear your experiences with freenas. begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Kubuntu - good bad and ugly
The bad: KDE 4.1 seems less configurable than KDE 3.5. Maybe the options are just better hidden. I need to play around a bit more to find my way. KDE 4.2 is a lot better than 4.1. I found 4.1 was not too stable. In 4.2 you can choose themes for wigets from different themes ? For example, you can make the clock look like it would in another theme. There are a few things that I do not like - but I don't play about with setting as much as I used to - well, not for desktop settings. It is worth upgrading. And the X.n+1 release is going to be great :-))) Don
Re: Movies from a still camera
Barry Marchant wrote: For my camera I browse from time to time, it still intrigues me with its capabilities. Barry I have a nearly five year old camera - I seem to recall it being called a 'Prosumer' or something. It is still pretty good by today's standards if don't think about the cost. I still look through the manual occasionally and find new things it can do - particularly as the memory cards now are not expensive. But as a former black and white enthusiast, I wind up going back to manual exposure and manual focus. It's much more fun to mess up photos *my* way :-) begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Who's in charge?
Steve Holdoway wrote: I blame Microsoft Exchange, this being a linux list (: It's the French nuclear testing still. begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: en_nz dictionaries?
Steve Holdoway wrote: Britain actually went metric in 1965, 4 years before New Zealand. Surprising it did at all since it was invented by the French (: I think the only (major?) non-metric country left in the world is the US. The only hangover that's in common usage is the measurement of The USA went metric during the Ford administration. Really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_Conversion_Act But nobody told Lockheed Martin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Thanks Derek...
Steve wrote: ... for the talk last night. As well as recompiling voyage linux for the latest kernel as we speak so I can play with your software, I inadvertently picked up a fair few pointers on how to properly set up wireless networks. Cheers, Steve PS. Can anyone elighten me on what that PLC'esque board was called in the general discussion afterwards? I'm having an Alzheimers moment... Thanks from me, too. I am emailing a few people in the Phnom Penh LUG who are doing stuff with wireless networks about it. Fixed phone lines are pretty rare in PP. Also found this link for the curious: http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Documentation/mac80211/RateControl/minstrel And thanks to the past and present key-holders and other organisers. Don begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: wtf!
Payne, Owen wrote: That was written several months ago and I wrote a response piece for it that only got published on the site. I'm sure Dave is a respected professional in his chosen field, however articles like this prove that his field is obviously not IT. Dave Thompson runs a computer-services company in Christchurch. Contact: d...@computerkungfu.com He probably supports windows. Of course he does not want people to move to Linux. One windows consultant I knew in Wellington told me quite openly that he liked windows because fixing it kept him busy. And it never hurts to start a controversy. Keeps the letters page full. Pity they do not have comments on the site. begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Linux Netbooks...
http://ibuystores.info/search/287/?search=linux Asus Eee PC 900 Linux white and black and Acer Aspire One with Linux - Blue Being hardware, which can go wron, rong, wrung, I prefer local suppliers I can waltz up to on a saturday morning and say fix / replace. iBuyStores Online Store is owned and operated by Gravim Electronics Limited, based in Christchurch, New Zealand. We are an online web based business and do not have a retail shop facility. Products are displayed via the ibuystores.info websites, communication through TradeMe QA, email, mail, phones or fax (Live Support will be added soon), product delivery via courier company. You can however visit us at our office if you wish to, our details will be provided after sales. Unless you have access to Google. They are: Gravim Electronics Limited 607 Madras Street Saint Albans Christchurch City Canterbury 8014 (021) 2253184 Fax:(03) 3742117 Mobile:(021) 2253184 www.ibuystores.co.nz I am not affiliated in any way - happened onto them while looking for something else. Don begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: GNUz club start 4 Feb
Rik Tindall wrote: Hi, all welcome to: GNU/Linux install tips tweaks, BYO liveCD demos, spare Ubuntu 8.04 CDs, etc. 7.30-9.30pm, first Wednesday of each month, Hi - I will come along. I have a Ubuntu 8.10 DVD - will it be possible to make copies there? Also - I have a Ubuntu 8.04 PPC disk I have been trying to install onto an iMac G3. It boots, starts to install, then says it cannot find the CD. It is not that important so I have not spent much time trying to track down the problem, but it annoys me :-| So anyone got any ideas? Don begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Feb meeting...
Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Monday 19 January 2009 19:05:51 Steve Holdoway wrote: any details yet?? No, nothing. Therefore can't help but wonder if I should cancel the venue booking, and let CLUG return to being just an email-list operation. Greetings all. I have recently returned to Christchurch, and joined the list a few weeks ago. I'd like to go to a meeting now and then. On the other hand, I haven't been to any yet so I don't know what they are like :-) I'd go along with the suggestion of a pub or cafe someplace and take it from there. I can't suggest any place in particular - I haven't frequented the local hostelries since - well, I remember I was wearing an onion in my belt, because it was the fashion at the time ... Comments please CLUGgers. Note that I personally cannot do anymore program organizing, because I will be away for the winter, and as I may well be leaving the country permanently life is just too busy at the moment, and anyway I think I've done my bit. don begin:vcard fn:Don Robertson n:Robertson;Don adr:;;;Christchurch;;;New Zealand email;internet:d...@robertson.net.nz tel;cell:64 021 294 1452 version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Blocking some websites!
Navdeep Singh Sidhu wrote: Hi all, I would like your help in blocking some websites like YouTube and Bebo from our staff computer. We have an old Compaq running Ubuntu 8.10. I have tried adding the websites to the /etc/hosts.deny list but nothing happens. /etc/hosts youtube.com 127.0.0.1 result is that hits to google are redirected to localhost. I searched Google and found a temporary solution, but once the pc restarts that rule doesnot work. The following is what i have tried .. * sudo /sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -d www.youtube.com -j REJECT * sudo /sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -d youtube.l.google.com -j REJECT * sudo /sbin/iptables -A OUTPUT -d 208.117.236.70 -j REJECT put the commands in rc.local so they're run at start up. HTH Cheers Don What do you guys recommend. All help will be appreciated. Navdeep Sidhu -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: test
Did you see my NZNog post Steve? Did you get my phone call? Cheers Don Steve Holdoway wrote: Ssh, don't tell everyone (: Actually I'm even worse than usual at the moment, as I'm trying to get my mail server to deliver regularly, first time, to xtra addresses. So, I'm trying to get SPF, DKIM, and loads of other acronyms working properly. Sadly, even these fail when connected to one of the xtra mail servers 90% of the time. Cheers, Steve BTW your gmail DKIM headers work fine, and I'm modifying my setup slightly because of them... more relaxed! On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 10:36:01 +1300 Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: Hello my name is Steve. I'm an addict. Every day I check the headers on all my email to see what operating systems my friends are using. I subscribe to 127 mailing lists to feed my habit. I wake at 2.00 am to keep up with the checking. On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:40 PM, John Rye jrt...@clear.net.nz wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:25:23 +1300 John Mallett wrote: User-Agent: KMail/1.10.3 (Linux/2.6.27.7-134.fc10.x86_64; KDE/4.1.3; x86_64; ; ) it's in your mail headers :-) John -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OT: Google street view live in NZ
Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: The people around the world who see those photos could have travelled to New Zealand and seen the content of the photos in the flesh. There is no privacy issue associated with taking a photo in a public place and placing it on the Internet. Did you notice that they appear to have blured people out? Jo and I went through a number of sites last night with people in them and noticed that the detail and clarity of buildings, trees, etc was very high, but every time you saw a person the quality headed down hill. Cheers Don
Re: Txt field for the subdomain
Steve Holdoway wrote: what do you mean by subdomain?? Sorry Steve, I wasn't very helpful with my question was it?! See: http://www.gplhost.com/software-dtc.html They don't have an instruction manual, only a fairly low level wiki. I'm helping the project by writing a user manual for the shared hosting features. I'm just working on the screen that lets site owners set up sub domains. I use v=spf1 a mx ~all on my domain, and implement domainkeys as well. The only way to guarantee mail delivery to yahoo/xtra. Yip, I looked at your domain. I see what you've done. Confess I don't understand why. you'll need to read up on spf/dk first tho. Yip, There's a few things I'm learning about DNS today as a result of trying to write a manual. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: iptables...
Isn't there a simple script/program for writting firewall rules? I'm sure I've read about this before some where. Cheers Don Steve Holdoway wrote: Does anyone have any simple rules out there to enable the following: eth0 local eth1 dmz eth2 internet all local can see dmz and internet all dmz can see only internet There must be a simple resource/cookbook on the net somewhere, but my brain's too addled to find atm, Cheers, Steve -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: openvpn presentation
Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:03:56 +1300 Roger Searle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, could you send me your openvpn presentation from last week? Presumably that means off-list given (as I understand it) the no attachments policy of this list. I'm very keen on getting it set up when I have a chance. Cheers, Roger Done. I'll forward Jim a copy to put on the wiki later.. can I have same plz, sorry I didn't make the preso I got openvpn set up last night on my server, I'm keen to see what you presented, I still have questions Ta Don
Re: any suggestions...
Roger Searle wrote: OpenVPN setup - and (linux) clients connecting to the server? Inclusive of ports on adsl routers to open up... +1 But could we also see windows clients as well. Cheers Don
Re: The Gooey Kbuntu Mess... - EAK - Help NOT needed on this bit :)
Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:50:27 +1300 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote: PS Remember that CLI stands for Clean, Lean, and Immediate. Don't get stuck in the gooey mess. GUI = fail today. Sorry guy... I think ppl missed the point that I was just agreeing with CS's comments about CLI v's 'the gooey mess'. My post was only to illustrate that CS is right on the mark... CIL is just Cleaner, Leaner and more Immediate! :) I recommend you spend some time at howtoforge and use their instructions to build this server. IMO your current appreoch will end in tears... unless you're making copious notes and are going to start again from scratch using them. So far my server build is going just fine. I didn't waste much time (2 minutes) with the GUI for the networking before I decided that editing the interfaces file manually would be quicker. I used apt-get to install openssh-server then went back to my laptop to apt-get apache2, followed by all the other bits I wanted. By default apache2 seems to like index.html and not index.php, so that took me about an hour to figure out what value to set up to fix that and get it in the right place. %% stuffed me up till I remembered where to turn on the asp style tags. display_errors = Off and log_errors = On in php.ini being On and Off, rather than Off and On, showed up a few warnings in my php code that I need to sort out. mysql5 has a few more features than mysql4, so that kept me busy for another hour while I looked about at what other things I could get in to trouble with! :) user/host rights caught me out for about half an hour. I'd used the webmin interface to set it up in CC. This time I used phpmyadmin. All in all... I'm quite happy that the machine is getting there fast enough... I was just having a rant at GUI following CS's comments :) Cheers Don
Re: The Gooey Kbuntu Mess...
Robert Fisher wrote: Why don't you have a nice cuppa and slow down a lttle. Thanks Rob, I had a nice coffee and took CS's advice and stuck to CLI! :) I did a google for kubuntu static address and the first link was http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/static-networking-in-kubuntu-804-kde4/ Looks quite informative and easy to me. GREAT! So I wasn't going mad after all... That's what I did in the end, just edited it manually. I did spot a mistake I made though... # auto eth0 What does that line do? Does anyone know? I commented it out by mistake and was having problems getting the IP to set correctly. Regarding a package manager, I like synaptic. Ya, I've used that before as well. I like apt when I know what I'm looking for. The GUI tool is really useful when I want to know what stuff is though. Cheers Don
Re: The Gooey Kbuntu Mess...
Christopher Sawtell wrote: very educational exercise for all of the rest of us too. :-) I suspect it might push some CLUGers over the edge ;) Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: mail readers
Aidan Gauland wrote: Hello, I've been using Thunderbird for a while now, but I'm wondering if there's a better mail reader for control freaks (like me :) ) out there. What mail readers do other control freaks on this list use? What else do you want to be able to do? Personally I'm liking Thunderbird more now that I've installed a bunch of the plug ins. I like to be able to see the headers without having to change view mode or open the source. Thunderbird keeps local files in text format (have a play with Outlook Express for a while and you'll get it). What more control do you need? Cheers Don
Re: The Gooey Kbuntu Mess...
David Lowe wrote: I for one am watching Don's experiences closely I tackle a similar project some time soon. So, keep 'em coming Don. Which bits are you interested in hearing back on David? I haven't tried setting up any RAID reporting yet. I've been busy just planning how I'm going to use the machine. Cheers Don
Re: OS for RAID1 - Kbuntu - where is the raid option?
Yes of course. Cheers Don chris wrote: Hi Don, would I be able to get an iso of those disks from you please if I called in the next time I am in town? regards chris Thomas North canterbury On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 17:35 +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got my disks this afternoon. Following advise I've got the alternative kbuntu CD. When the disk set up option poped up there was an option for LVM set up but not raid. Where is the RAID set up? Do I have to install the base system first? Or was I meant to do a different install from the first menu? Anyone done raid on kb before? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OS for RAID1 - Kbuntu - where is the raid option?
Thanks Roger, The thread got quite long, I did skip back some of the posts but clearly missed that one. Sorry to be a PIA. Cheers Don Roger Searle wrote: my email on 15/10 was quickly created from doing such an install in a vm - while not up to the standard of a wiki article or for publication in a real book, i thought that it would be enough for someone to follow. here is what i wrote again: early in the installation process when you get to the disk partitioning stage, you do a manual partitioning, create your various disk partitions on the first disk, and format type is NOT ext3 (or what ever you'd choose) but physical volume for RAID. then set up the second disk with the same partition sizes. Before selecting finish partitioning and write changes to disk go to the configure software raid entry where you can create md device of RAID0, 1 or 5. This is where you join up the matching partitions from the 2 drives. at this point you can then select a RAID1 device and specify format type and mount point. from there the installation is like any other - you slowly make a cup of coffee and come back to your fresh distro. Cheers, Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got my disks this afternoon. Following advise I've got the alternative kbuntu CD. When the disk set up option poped up there was an option for LVM set up but not raid. Where is the RAID set up? Do I have to install the base system first? Or was I meant to do a different install from the first menu? Anyone done raid on kb before? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OS for RAID1 - why would I only see 1 disk?
Ignore this... I found the answer. The BIOS in the HP shows the disk as being there but also has an option for the second controller to be disabled even though it shows the disk as being there. I got confused. Cheers Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The installer only seems to see one disk - sda I've gone to console mode (alt-f2) and done # ls sd* sda is the only drive. The bios shows both disks ok. They're both the same model, that wouldn't cause any problem should it? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: How to restart smb on Ubuntu
Ok, ignore this one as well sorry... The K gui has all the tools to say smb blar... The smb.conf exists... I just assumed that samba was installed - err... wrong! Cheers Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just edited smb.conf and want smb to pick up the changes. I assumed #/etc/init.d/smb restart or /samba restart is it all built into networking? Do I have to restart networking each time I want smb updated? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OS for RAID1 - Kbuntu - where is the raid option?
Got my disks this afternoon. Following advise I've got the alternative kbuntu CD. When the disk set up option poped up there was an option for LVM set up but not raid. Where is the RAID set up? Do I have to install the base system first? Or was I meant to do a different install from the first menu? Anyone done raid on kb before? Cheers Don
Re: OS for RAID1 - The answer so far...
Thanks guys, Ok that make sense now. I think I'll do that as there are lots of ubuntu ppl on list if I get stuck. Cheers Don Roger Searle wrote: you download the 'alternate' distro from the ubuntu site, not the desktop distro. check out here - noting the big blue word at the top 'beta', further down you will see alternate... http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/8.10/ release date for 8.10 is 30th october. cheers, roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Rout wrote: Don you seem to be missing the need for the ALTERNATE install disk to get raid running. Read the thread carefully. You mean a third disk to boot from? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OS for RAID1
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Wed 15 Oct 2008 17:10:09 NZDT +1300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What OS should I used? Linux. Stupid question ;) I meant which distro :) [1] This includes Debian (or at least the non-latest Debians). Yip, I'm thinking that Debian is the way to go because I already know it other than this raid stuff. I've been doing some googling as well and that seems to indicate that the etch installer should set up the raid, so when my disks get here I'll grab a distro and have a play I think. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: I'm getting hammered... what should I do about it?
Nick Rout wrote: Having set up a telstraclear cable modem yesterday i can tell you 203.96.152.4 is the telstraclear/paradise dns server (.12 is their other one). :53 is of course the dns port. Yes I've just closed off dns. I'm wondering if it's associated. Cheers Don
Re: I'm getting hammered... what should I do about it?
Jim Cheetham wrote:
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a 7.8mb secure log with this stuff in it and not sure what I should
do to sort it out?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# tail -f secure
Oct 15 21:06:41 bowenvale snort[21511]: [1:1620:5] BAD TRAFFIC Non-Standard
IP protocol [Classification: Detection of a non-standard protocol or event]
[Priority: 2]: {UDP} 203.96.152.4:53 - 121.73.114.171:58076
Errm, respectfully, if you don't know what this stuff is, don't run snort.
It isn't a user-level piece of software, it's a network intrusion
detection/prevention system. If it isn't configured to fit your
network, it'll cause problems for you ...
-jim
It's all packaged with clark connect and seems to be working ok. It's
got preaty flash stuff that shows me I've got over 80k hits from one IP
alone in the last day.
I've emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] to see if they can block the
traffic.
Cheers Don
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Don Gould
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Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699
www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OS for RAID1 - wesley do you have lenny?
Steve Holdoway wrote: I think you need the alternate install disk to get it to install softraid, not the desktop version. Wesley should be able to fix you up ( plug, plug ). Is Lenny in the archive? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: I'm getting hammered... what should I do about it?
Derek Smithies wrote: Hi, My thoughts were: a)the subject line was sufficiently interesting to attact attention To be honest I haven't even thought about how it read... I was watching `# tail -f secure` and thought 'crap, I'm getting hammered here'... I've had about 3 emails from TCL telling me I'm over my limit and here's another 500mb, so I've been on the hunt for where it's going. b)it was a golden opportunity for us to point Don in the correct direction and briefly say, standard snort report, port whatever, DNS... --That way, all newbies who read the email will benefit also.. Snort is a standard package in CC 3.2 home. I agree, I have bugger all idea what I'm looking at but when one IP has had 80k hits, it made me wonder what it is and what it's trying to do! c)Keep the tone of emails to clug good - please. No use of C# then? Cheers Don
Re: OS for RAID1 - The answer so far...
Ok, so the answer so far is to use Lenny, as it's installer will guide me through the process of setting up RAID1. Mirror both disks because then you're covered for disk failure. Make sure the bios know to boot from the other disk if the first fails. Make sure grub is the same on both disks so that everything books up. mdadm is a tool for managing the RAID configuration, but I can't find a decent functional overview that clearly explains the scope. QUESTIONS... What tools do I need to know about? What reporting do I get and how do I get it? (email, logs, etc) What tools do I need to use to monitor the disks to make sure they're not failing? (Can you tell I'm a guy who's never had a disk fail before? So I've never worried about monitoring them.) How do I test the array once I've built it? Being SATA is hot start, I assume I can just pull the data cable off and things should keep trucking? Can I assume I'll get an alert some how? If I write data to the disk while one disk is missing then it will need to resync once the disk comes back. How long does this normally take? Is there a delay? How do I put a new disk in if one fails? Can I just wack a blank disk in and the tools will sort out the rest? What happens if disk 0 fails, data is written to disk 1, then disk 0 comes back, then disk 1 fails, data is written to disk 0, then disk 1 comes back. Will it sync everything up correctly even if some recovery hadn't been finished between failures? What other gotya's do I need to know about? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OS for RAID1 - The answer so far...
Roger Searle wrote: http://www.networknewz.com/2003/0113.html (k)ubuntu alternate install also guides you through setting up raid (0, 1, 5). since i don't know anything about lenny, i can't comment on you saying grub needs to know about the disks - the process of setting up software raid (in kubuntu) takes care of all this for you, there is nothing to do there, move right along... Ok I might grab a copy of kubuntu then... or did you mean both k and g? Does the archive have current copies of that? What version numbers am I looking for? many of your other questions are answered when you click the link above. have fun, and please send updates on what you do, there are aspects of this that i haven't got my head around yet so will follow this thread looking for insights. I will... that's what I was doing, in posting that last message. I'd like to leave a paper trail so that the next person can find my notes and peoples responses. (There's nothing worse than seeing questions on a mailing list archive without ever there being answers!) Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
OS for RAID1
I got a DC7100 with 1.2g ram, 2.8ghz, 40gb fxd (sata - it has 2 ports), I'll drop the fdd out and put the second fxd under the cd. I ordered 2 * 500gb sata drives for it. What OS should I used? I'm currently thinking debian because I know that one a bit. How easy is it to set up the two disks as RAID1? (The 40gb disk will have to come out, so I'll have to be booting off the drives as well.) How does it work? Do I have to make a small boot pat on one of the drives then set up the rest? If I do that and the boot drive fails then what? Or do I set up the two drives to be identical? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OS for RAID1
Does anyone have any comment on this page: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html Cheers Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got a DC7100 with 1.2g ram, 2.8ghz, 40gb fxd (sata - it has 2 ports), I'll drop the fdd out and put the second fxd under the cd. I ordered 2 * 500gb sata drives for it. What OS should I used? I'm currently thinking debian because I know that one a bit. How easy is it to set up the two disks as RAID1? (The 40gb disk will have to come out, so I'll have to be booting off the drives as well.) How does it work? Do I have to make a small boot pat on one of the drives then set up the rest? If I do that and the boot drive fails then what? Or do I set up the two drives to be identical? Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: How do I keep Google out of my box?
David Taylor wrote: did you realise that you now have as your friend for this sort of crap the 'copyright act 2008 amendments, sect. 92A' You're suggesting that I call the police and complain that Google are taking my content with out my permission per sect 92A? Cheers Don Ps: Thanks guys, I sorted out the robots.txt with deny all / for the whole server. There's nothing on there that needs to be indexed.
Re: Internet in the sticks: was Home networking issues
Dear Farmer Dave, The reason us latte drinkers have great service is because we work together. We all purchase our services off one of only a limited number of companies. Why aren't you farmers doing the same - working together? Is there no one a little further from the hill that you can bounce a signal from? Cheers Mr Long Black Drinker. David Lowe wrote: I'm at the foot of Mount Grey with a lovely wireless service on top... but so close to the foot of it, I can't see the aerial. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: OT: testing psus
dave lilley wrote: Chap in a unit beside where i work *might* be able to help. ...and if that doesn't work let me know. I know someone who can ever fix it or tell us exactly where to get it sorted. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: GNU/Linux Debian Lenny 5.0 86 and 64 isos
What do I need for Lenny 5.0? How many CD's? Cheers Don Wesley Parish wrote: now on Caledonian, at the St Albans NN room. And, FWIW, I installed the Kubuntu from a disc I burned from the linuxisos collection on Caledonian, so it is getting some use. Wesley Parish Sharpened hands are happy hands. Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands - A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge I me. Shape middled me. I would come out into hot! I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: (re)moving the wiki
Jim Cheetham wrote: All you have to do is convince Cabal Member Rout to put an MX record into the domains ... +1 I'm with Jim. I don't think that we should have mx. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: FTP server recommendations
Jim Cheetham wrote: it's also a good choice for unix-unix transfers once you switch on the extensions that understand file modes. I didn't know you could do that. How do you do that? I have linux boxes sitting side by side and often want to copy stuff but I have to remember to tell MC not to include attributes or it gets up set. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: Thunderbird plug ins?
testing a new plug in... Found a plug in that remembers the senders address. Now to see if it's doing what I think ... Cheers Don Kerry Mayes wrote: But to answer your first question, yes Thunderbird has plugins. Many, many, plugins. E.g. Lightning to add a calendar. 2008/9/3 Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]: crap, someone just pointed out the feature I hadn't noticed Don Gould wrote: Does anyone know if tb has plug ins? I view messages in thread view. I'd like a plug in to mark messages in a given thread as read. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
Re: Thunderbird plug ins?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/594 A plug in that I've wanted for ages. Will stop me from sending to list as the wrong identity. Cheers Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testing a new plug in... Found a plug in that remembers the senders address. Now to see if it's doing what I think ... Cheers Don Kerry Mayes wrote: But to answer your first question, yes Thunderbird has plugins. Many, many, plugins. E.g. Lightning to add a calendar. 2008/9/3 Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED]: crap, someone just pointed out the feature I hadn't noticed Don Gould wrote: Does anyone know if tb has plug ins? I view messages in thread view. I'd like a plug in to mark messages in a given thread as read. Cheers Don -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave, Mairehau, Christchurch, NZ Ph +64 3 348 7235 or + 64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz
OT: What will people end up doing for a job?Re: Vic Oliver on radiolive now.
If we get to the point where robots build houses for us, what will we end up doing for work? It's ok for the few people that can own one of these machines... Do we all just end up being accountants and web designers? Cheers Don Roy Britten wrote: 2008/9/2 Kerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Vic Oliver on radio live now talking about his open source 3d printer He could scale up (: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/01/concrete_building_printers/
Thunderbird plug ins?
Does anyone know if tb has plug ins? I view messages in thread view. I'd like a plug in to mark messages in a given thread as read. Cheers Don
Re: Thunderbird plug ins?
crap, someone just pointed out the feature I hadn't noticed Don Gould wrote: Does anyone know if tb has plug ins? I view messages in thread view. I'd like a plug in to mark messages in a given thread as read. Cheers Don
Re: Home networking cable question
Ross Drummond wrote: A concrete pad floor unfortunately. What's the roof space like? I've used extension bits to drill down walls in the past. It's not that hard if you just take your time. Cheers Don
Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
Jim Cheetham wrote: Luckily, the people that run the Internet are fans of technical purity, otherwise you'd still have MSN and AOL not talking to each other. Why was it that it changed? Was it because of technical purity or the understanding that one would die is they didn't start to talk? VHS v's Beta Blueray v's HDDVD Cheers Don
OT: Web Browser standards, MS and everyone else. Was: Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
Kerry wrote: I sure I'm not the only one here who remembers when neither microsoft or netscape didn't care who's technical feet they stood on and website designers almost got to the point where you had to design two websites depending on what browser someone used. That's one of the best reminders I've read on this list in a long time... in fact any list. I think it's interesting to look back at how that's played out. MS took us down their road, some said they did it to dominate. Why didn't Netscape just follow them down the MS Standard road? Standards are there for a reason, in the long run they do make life easier for all of us MS would agree with you, and in fact do. What's wrong with the standard just being the one that MS give us. After all, they usually pay for some of the best people to develop the standard. Why should it be in 'independent' body? CALM DOWN! This is not intended to be a troll, so don't feed a flame! It's apparent to me why the suggestion I made above is the wrong answer even if it wasn't apparent to many people at the time the battle over web browsers was played out. Cheers Don
OT: Skype Standards. Was: Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
David Lowe wrote: This is a fascinating debate, especially in light of Stallman's speech. David I agree with you. Stallman has caused me to question my views on this whole issue and consider more about what we're not paying enough attention to at present. MS (and many other commercial software houses) also follow the Pragmatic methodology. They go the extra mile for usability because they know that for the mass market, usability is everything, even at the expense of functionality or technical purity. I always thought that those two things should go hand in hand. If gold is not totally pure then it's not the best gold - most expensive. If gold is completely pure then it's still not the best gold because for many uses it becomes unusable (to soft). But that's gold. It's 'matter', software is not. How can you call a program that is unusable 'pure'? I dont know where I'm ending up here except to defend developers that we think dont care about users. The big question is whether free(dom) software can ever compete with those that don't care about standards. I'ts going to be a big ask. The other way of looking at it might also be to ask if standards writer are ever going to get the message that to be 'pure' a standard has to deliver results to every user. I'm with Vik - if we knew/know HOW Skype makes it easy, it should be doable - but only if enough people see it as being worth the effort. I also wonder if SIP clients are really just 'not as finished as the current Skype client'. Cheers Don
Re: OT: Skype Standards. Was: Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
Steve wrote: I very much doubt that you set up your own mail server ( nope, you use gplhost services instead ) Actually I have two of my own mail servers and I use GPLHost as well. One day I will have 2 mail servers and no GPLHost... I'm just not that confident yet :) I think your point is right on the mark though! If it wasn't for the RFC then my mail server, running postfix, couldn't talk to your mail server (running what ever you run). Skype doesn't have to talk to anything other than skype does it? Hence it's an easier program to write, leaving more time to address other issues like traversing firewalls (which is where we started this topic). ... So by your reasoning, email isn't finished either?? Correct. By my logic, nothing is finished because it's constantly evolving. As for clients, is, for example, ekiga really that difficult to configure?? Personally I don't know. Viks point, that I was following on from, was about the clients ability to get though firewalls. SIP software isn't the only p2p type of application that has this problem though it is? Whatever, it's infinitely better than some closed product using 100% of the available cpu on a PC running Microsoft windows... but doing what??? Now we're really heading OT... but I 100% agree with you that there's stacks of software out there in the MS world that just has bugs in it. To me, anything that causes 100% CPU is just a bug. Cheers Don
Re: OT: Skype Standards. Was: Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
David Lowe wrote: So I reckon they should break the standard to meet the real world. I'm not holding my breath. That's when you branch the code and start out on our own with something that others want if the original guys won't. Look at how many projects that's happened to. Cheers Don
Re: OT: Skype Standards. Was: Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
Nick Rout wrote: I realise your post is slightly tongue in cheek, but... Although you are right about the point of free software, free software is closely (one might almost say necessarily) tied to open standards. Thats why your request to the evolution authors to support an out of standard feature met with failure. Steve commented about the spec being finished. We should be going back to the RFC and saying that ; should be included. It's a logical upgrade. Popular and used else where. Perhaps there's reason why ; shouldn't be used. I don't know what those reasons are. I guess my point is about learning 'how' to get things done. Cheers Don
Re: OT: Skype Standards. Was: Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there's reason why ; shouldn't be used. I don't know what those reasons are. The reason it shouldn't be used is that it isn't in the standard. I know that. I was just wondering why they didn't put it in the standard. I also wondered if the standard should now be revised and have it added or do we go back and site that yet again MS have done something to push 'standard' software out of the market. What David is saying, I think, is that he can't use Evol because he gets messages from OL users all the time which break his messages. Cheers Don
Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
Jim Cheetham wrote: At the end of the day, if you want something different, you have to be prepared to pay for it, somehow. Currently, that semi-technical-end-user space needs you to use proprietary software :-( I think part of the question was How does Skype do it? What is it about Skype that just lets it cut through everything? I agree there's an ethical/business debate here, but there's also just a simple (or not so simple) technical one as well. The wrapper issue that Vic talked about is a good point. But is that all SIP needs, a decent set of wrappers to make setting it up easy? Cheers Don
Re: SIP phones and pfsense....
Vik Olliver wrote: So, Skype has done what is necessary to work while Open Source SIP apps won't work for people because they won't adapt. ...or haven't yet. Looks to me like a case of technical purity being held over the needs of the user. A very common observation from my 6 or 7 years in this space. I'm not a fan of that. It makes Open Source apps stagnate and die. I agree. Programmers in the MS Windows space are willing to go to the end mile to just make applications work for the user and don't care whos technical foot they stand on along the way. Cheers Don
Re: Wesley
+1 Steve Holdoway wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:45:01 +1200 Roy Britten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of us know that Wesley Parish was knocked off his bike a while ago. Things haven't healed as well as one would hope and he had a bone graft operation at Burwood hospital yesterday. As of this morning he was somewhat uncomfortable but was still going to be sent home today. Roy. Thanks for the update Roy. Please pass on my best wishes and hope for a speedy recovery. Thanks, Steve.
Re: OT: Big boxes
$51.50! I want one as well. Thanks for making us all hate our desktops Craig! Cheers Don Steve Holdoway wrote: Now it's no longer needed... $50 ?? (: Steve On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:42:21 +1200 Craig Falconer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Completely new topic - lots of CPUs are nice to have. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model name -c 8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 7098 6907191 0161 6153 This box was used to run www.mathsweek.org.nz , and once we solved some mysql indexing issues, the load average was under 1.5 the whole time. -- CF
Re: [Fwd: Could you forward my message?]
Nick Rout wrote: Is there a point to this message? It seems to have been posted already. But it is so porly quoted its hard to tell. RMS response to my inital post went to the GNUz List but not the CLUG one. He emailed me directly and asked that I post it to the Linux one. In reflection I questioned if it should be posted, so I emailed Rik for his view. I haven't sent my response back to Rik yet, I've been busy. Rik beat me to the punch and posted it anyway. HTH. Cheers Don
Re: Richard Stallman to Talk on Saturday at Uni of Canterbury
The talk was videoed by a number of people. I'm sure the actual presentation will show up somewhere. I would like a DVD quality copy of the recording. Cheers Don dave wrote: Well I'm really miffed Been busy doing spring cleaning and thought it was tonight @ 7pm ish. Bloody G! anyone got teh meeting on audio or even better video??? dave. On Friday 15 August 2008 3:24:41 pm Rik Tindall wrote: Thanks for posting this Nick Nick Rout wrote: Not sure why this doesn't seem to have been posted to this list. Richard Stallman is talking in ChCh on Saturday: Date: Saturday 16 August Time: 2:00-4:30pm Place: Lecture Theatre Arts 1 - A1, east of James Hight Library - University of Canterbury Topic: Computers, GNU and Free Culture. A1 has capacity for 320 persons. snip Whether or not you agree with all that RMS has to say, its bound to be interesting, thought provoking and stimulating. The dinner list for tonight is closing fast though. Replies off-list please. Regards, Rik
Where is A1? Where is the RMS presentation?
Is there a map that shows where this afternoons presentation actually is? Where is A1 at the Uni? Where is best to park? Cheers Don
Meeting presentation - email encryption.
Have we ever done a presentation on email encryption? I know SFA about it and would like to. Cheers Don
Re: Meeting presentation - email encryption.
Steve wrote: Do you mean encryption of an email, or the sending medium - TLS, IMAPS, etc?? Encryption of an email. Setting up SSL on the transport medium isn't a big thing to do these days is it? You do raise an interesting point though... How do I protect the messages on my IMAP store? How do I keep sys admins out of my content and still be mobile with something like web mail? However what I was thinking was more along the lines of... I want to send Nick an email that only Nick can read. How do I do it? I want nick to know that the message he got did come from me and wasn't tampered with along the way. Is that possible. thurnderbird has an 'encrypt' button. What do I need to do to make that button functional. What tools are there for sending/receiving email that are easy to use eg. Assume different levels of security... As always, I assume the more 'user friendly' you make things, the less security there is. ie. If my 'email client' unencrypts a message then stores it as plain text on my laptop then it's not hard to get the messages by taking my machine, however the message is still secure in transport. What different levels of security are there? 48bit, 128bit? What's the norm to use at present? What's best practice? Does that give you enough info for a presentation Steve? (Hint hint, nudge, nudge, wink) Cheers Don
Re: The Story of the Little Computer That Could
Christopher Sawtell wrote: You youngsters don't know how lucky you are. :-) With SWMBO looking over shoulder at the comment about the 2 second boot time... she just laughed. Not what we have today... It takes a good 10 minutes for my Vista machine to finish doing its thing from a cold start before the machine is useful. Even returning from screen saver can take 5 to 10 seconds. Cheers Don
Re: Acer Aspire One - 1024x600, 8G flash, NZ$600
Nick Rout wrote: nah the whole point of these machines is to be ultra portable. A long lasting battery is an absolute must IMHO. I would have said 'a serious point of difference' not 'the whole point'. I wonder if these types of machines are going to open up a whole new area of the market with people who only have a pc just to look something up and clear the old email and aren't willing to pay $1000+ to have the digital equivalent of a library card and letter box. Cheers Don
Re: suitable router and video card
Steve wrote: I think that the technical difference is that a switch has the ability to store and forward a package, whereas a hub just broadcasts. Given that the OP wants to share access to a TC 4/2mbit cable modem with 3 computers, really is a bit of a non issue. I'd recommend a switch every time. Haven't seen a hub for sale for ages... on a greenfield install, I doubt you can still buy them new can you? I'd look for a 4 port adsl router. No that would confuse the OP even more! Really, the OP should be going and getting a BB router, we're all helping out with some $$$ cutting suggestions, let's not dig our selves an even bigger hole with a DSL router in the mix! BTW, has any one actually tested that the TC modem does NAT? I don't see how that would work. I've had a quick look on mine and I can see that it says it provides DHCP, but I didn't see any mention of NAT in there. Cheers Don
Re: CherryPal
Neil you also have that 'plam top' computer... didn't that use 6w and was fully intergrated? Cheers Don Neil wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:30:25PM +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote: a microdrive in them and run a full linux distro off a 12V wall wart and only 5 watts rather than the 50-80 that a mini-ITX does. There might be some power-hungry mini-ITX rigs out there but 50-80 watts is a bit harsh. I have a few, each with a single disc drive and they draw between 15 and 25 watts as measured at the wall. - neil
Re: suitable router and video card
Matthew Whiting wrote: Why do you say Telstra Cable is way better than ADSL? The backhaul that TC have committed to the network simply means it runs faster in most cases. If you're in an area where not many people are using DSL then the performance may be ok. My parents are on the sort of DSL plan you're talking about and it's great all week. Come the weekend it's not worth using. I've used both. I have the choice of both and I choose TC. I'm using a 4/2 plan with 5gb. It's must faster from most sites than the ADSL2+ plan I had with Orcon (out of the Riccarton exchange). Cheers Don
Re: OT: just how wordy is gmail?
That relates to 1500mb per month, assuming you work 30 days a month. A 3G (read 'expensive') data plan costs $60/month. Remind me what your charge out rate is? What did it cost your firm to tell you that your net usage is so high? Really... if you were using 20gb/month I might ask questions, but isn't this a bit silly? Cheers Don Nick Rout wrote: I am being queried about my internet usage at the office and it is high compared to everyone else. A lot of it appears to be to from google IP addresses. I don't look up THAT much stuff on google every day, but I wonder if its gmail updating when I leave it open in my browser - it does update itself fairly continuously. There is 50MB to from google IP's in a typical day. I might have gmail open 50-100% of a working day (so, say, 4-8 hours). I'll close my browser and come back for an answer later :-) Nick.
Clug Meeting Talk Request
I would like to see a talk on vmware/etc networking. How do you set up vmware under both linux and windows as a host and make the client see the internet? I've set up stuff before and can get the os working but not able to see the net and I'm sure it's just because I don't understand the concepts properly. Cheers Don
Re: OT: just how wordy is gmail?
I agree some good points there Jim. Cheers Don Jim Cheetham wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Don Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really... if you were using 20gb/month I might ask questions, but isn't this a bit silly? There's nothing silly in querying higher than normal usage; as it may indicate that you have a compromised PC forming part of a botnet or something. However, once you have managed to confirm that the high reading is correct (i.e. worked out how much Google Mail uses by asking other people), the baseline should just get reset, and no further questions are necessary :-) I once saw a business switch from Telecom to Telstra, and the Telstra plan had a 10GB/month setting. Luckily for them, their network tech noticed (after the switchover) that they were running at 1GB/day on email. This was queried; the fix was to get them to stop accepting all email for their domain, and instead accept only named users (e.g. staff + sales@, accounts@ etc). This dropped them down to a few hundred meg a month. Asking the question about usage is an essential part of finding problems :-) -jim
Re: OT: Freeview EPG
Ross Drummond wrote: So publish away at your hearts content. If you get monstered by the TV companies lawyers point them to that case. If Kale beats up his computer (while coding his TV software) there's every chances he'll get a good paying job in TVNZ or Radio NZ. Does anyone think that TVNZ lawyers have time to chase this issue at present? Cheers Don
Re: OT: Freeview EPG
Send Freeview an email telling them you have scripts that customers can use to get EPG info in to their appliances with and ask them to publish the source on their web site to aid other customers. You're not out to make a commerical gain. I get the impression that their issue would be if you were using their content to promote the sale of something you have without them getting a cut - eg a TV listings web site with your own ads and their content. It would be interesting to hear what their comment is. If they're smart then they'll embrace GPL developers and leverage synergy from the relationship. They may like to take your content and publish it on their site to aid uptake of Freeview technology. It has to be remembered that Freeview are in competition with SkyTV. Hence they should be very interested in anything that pushes adoption. Especially when they're carrying channels that are only available on Freeview. Cheers Don Kale Worsley wrote: Hi, Hypothetically, If I was snooping around on thee http://freeviewnz.tv website and came across an xml page that contained links to the EPG data of all the freeview channels, wrote a PHP script to spit the data out as XMLTV format, and THEN read the terms and conditions page on the site... The listings of programmes are protected by copyright owned by TVNZ, CanWest TVWorks , Maori Television Service, Radio New Zealand, and other broadcasters. None of the listings of programmes to be broadcast may be reproduced by any means without the express permission of these companies. ...what would you, clug members, suggest I do with the information and PHP script, hypothetically? 'Hypothetical' moral dilemma... Thanks, Kale
Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.
Is the data HDPA (or what ever the tla is)? My mobile is 3G but will only do GPRS speeds. Can the wifi in the phone be configured as an AP? Cheers Don Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 07:21:10PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: This is was intended to state that you should be able to use the Neo FreeRunner on the telecom network Not yet, but once Telecom's GSM network is live, the GSM 850 version will work on the Telecom network. but you can buy global mode phones already are they dual gsm/cdma phones? Yes, the WorldMode phones are dual GSM/CDMA phones. In NZ, they operate on Telecom's CDMA network; overseas they operate on GSM networks that Telecom has roaming agreements with. -jasper
