Re: NZ Copyright law matter

2009-05-03 Thread dave

I must be pessimistic because i just see an opportunity for big business to 
encroach on more of our freedoms as such as they are via act and US free trade 
deal that´s in the wind.

maybe we should go the way of of the Chinese but then we be a pariah to the 
rest of the world for infringing on copyright law.

Still we´d have THE ONLY free trade deal with the a VERY large country (namely 
China).

On Sun, 03 May 2009 15:34:55 David Lowe wrote:
 I guess that's democracy at work? Faith in the system is revived.

 - D

 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Wesley Parish 
wes.par...@paradise.net.nzwrote:
  Just came across this on Techdirt:
  http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090430/1400034708.shtml
  New Zealand Officials To Scrap Copyright Law; Start From Scratch
 
  Now that's an interesting result from the hoo-haa over the
  guilty-as-alleged-sans-proof law we were almost saddled with.  (I don't
  care
  to be ridden by morons, thank you! :)
 
  Any comments?
 
 
  Wesley Parish
  --
  Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
  -
  -
  Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
  You ask, what is the most important thing?
  Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
  I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.




Re: NZ Copyright law matter

2009-05-03 Thread Nick Rout
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Wesley Parish
wes.par...@paradise.net.nz wrote:
 Just came across this on Techdirt:
 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090430/1400034708.shtml
 New Zealand Officials To Scrap Copyright Law; Start From Scratch

 Now that's an interesting result from the hoo-haa over the
 guilty-as-alleged-sans-proof law we were almost saddled with.  (I don't care
 to be ridden by morons, thank you! :)

 Any comments?

yeah sure.

1. The originally proposed code of practice for ISP's gave plenty of
prootection for consumers and did not amount to guilt without proof.

2. The media companies wanted something tougher than the proposed code.

3. the legislation that the code was under has been scrapped to be
replaced by something else

4. The current government is pro business, including the multimedia
conglomerates who do want automatic takedown and guilt upon
accusation.

5. Conclusion: we will end up with something worse than the code that
wass proposed by the ISP's.


Re: NZ Copyright law matter

2009-05-03 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Mon, 04 May 2009 09:28:44 +1200
Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Wesley Parish
 wes.par...@paradise.net.nz wrote:
  Just came across this on Techdirt:
  http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090430/1400034708.shtml
  New Zealand Officials To Scrap Copyright Law; Start From Scratch
 
  Now that's an interesting result from the hoo-haa over the
  guilty-as-alleged-sans-proof law we were almost saddled with.  (I don't care
  to be ridden by morons, thank you! :)
 
  Any comments?
 
 yeah sure.
 
 1. The originally proposed code of practice for ISP's gave plenty of
 prootection for consumers and did not amount to guilt without proof.
 
 2. The media companies wanted something tougher than the proposed code.
 
 3. the legislation that the code was under has been scrapped to be
 replaced by something else
 
 4. The current government is pro business, including the multimedia
 conglomerates who do want automatic takedown and guilt upon
 accusation.
 
 5. Conclusion: we will end up with something worse than the code that
 wass proposed by the ISP's.

and I thought I was the only one that read it that way...

Steve

-- 
Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz
http://www.greengecko.co.nz


NZ Copyright law matter

2009-05-02 Thread Wesley Parish
Just came across this on Techdirt:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090430/1400034708.shtml
New Zealand Officials To Scrap Copyright Law; Start From Scratch

Now that's an interesting result from the hoo-haa over the 
guilty-as-alleged-sans-proof law we were almost saddled with.  (I don't care 
to be ridden by morons, thank you! :)

Any comments?


Wesley Parish
-- 
Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
-
-
Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
You ask, what is the most important thing?
Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.


Re: NZ Copyright law matter

2009-05-02 Thread David Lowe
I guess that's democracy at work? Faith in the system is revived.

- D

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Wesley Parish wes.par...@paradise.net.nzwrote:

 Just came across this on Techdirt:
 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090430/1400034708.shtml
 New Zealand Officials To Scrap Copyright Law; Start From Scratch

 Now that's an interesting result from the hoo-haa over the
 guilty-as-alleged-sans-proof law we were almost saddled with.  (I don't
 care
 to be ridden by morons, thank you! :)

 Any comments?


 Wesley Parish
 --
 Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
 -
 -
 Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?
 You ask, what is the most important thing?
 Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.
 I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.