Re: Printing the Rute manual

2002-07-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell

Before we jump into print with somebody elses words of wisdom, I think 
it might be a good idea to read the copying licence:-

http://rute.sourceforge.net/copying.html

The crucial paragraph reads:-

1. This work may not be reproduced in hard copy except for personal use. 
Further, it may not be reproduced in hard copy for training material, 
nor for commercial gain, nor for public or organisation-wide 
distribution. Further, it may not be reproduced in hard copy except 
where the intended reader of the hard copy initiates the process of 
converting the work to hard copy.

Whilst I'd love to have a knock-off copy on account of the value for 
money, I'm not sure if my concience would allow it.

Please think carefully about the ramifications of what is proposed.

--
Christopher Sawtell.

Nick Rout wrote:

I made enquiries with the Digital Print Centre on Victoria street just
now.

Based on 660 pages printed 2 up on both sides (ie the pages end up A5
size) the cost to print and bind with spiral binding is roughly:

printing: $40.50
binding  : $5.40
trimming: 3.75

Total  : $49.65

They would print onto a4 and then cut it in half and bind it. This is
also contingent on there not being too much black on the pages.

This price is for 1-4 copies, so if we got a lot done it would be less,
but he was a bit vague about that. 

It could be worth getting an order together. This is cheaper then
getting it from Amazon $30 US plus (say) $15 US postage, double it to
NZ$ = $90. The cheapest large commercial offerings on linux are over
$100 in Whitcoulls. 

Thoughts
  







Re: Printing the Rute manual

2002-07-25 Thread Philip Charles

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, Christopher Sawtell wrote:

 Before we jump into print with somebody elses words of wisdom, I think
 it might be a good idea to read the copying licence:-

 http://rute.sourceforge.net/copying.html

 The crucial paragraph reads:-

 1. This work may not be reproduced in hard copy except for personal use.
 Further, it may not be reproduced in hard copy for training material,
 nor for commercial gain, nor for public or organisation-wide
 distribution. Further, it may not be reproduced in hard copy except
 where the intended reader of the hard copy initiates the process of
 converting the work to hard copy.

 Whilst I'd love to have a knock-off copy on account of the value for
 money, I'm not sure if my concience would allow it.

Here here.  If it was not for this paragraph I would have been offering
hard copies of it months ago.  BTW, nobody has initiated a request for a
hard copy from me.

I load the tutorial (uncompressed) into xpdf and print off the sections I
want.  The html version is good for locating the parts I need.

Phil.

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Re: Printing the Rute manual

2002-07-25 Thread Sascha Beaumont

  1. This work may not be reproduced in hard copy except for personal use.
  Further, it may not be reproduced in hard copy for training material,
  nor for commercial gain, nor for public or organisation-wide
  distribution. Further, it may not be reproduced in hard copy except
  where the intended reader of the hard copy initiates the process of
  converting the work to hard copy.

By taking orders, in a round about way the intended reader is inititating
the process of converting to hard copy. They're saying... hey you ... print
me a copy. No real difference from saying hey print daemon, print me a copy.
The protocol is just a little different, and requires human intervention for
the spooling :)


Sascha Beaumont





Re: Printing the Rute manual

2002-07-24 Thread Bjorn Nilsen

What sort of binding is that? At 330 leaves (is that the correct term?)
thick which is nearly a ream (500), my experience with that plastic binding
at that thickness is not very good.

- Original Message -
From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I made enquiries with the Digital Print Centre on Victoria street just
 now.

 Based on 660 pages printed 2 up on both sides (ie the pages end up A5
 size) the cost to print and bind with spiral binding is roughly:

 printing: $40.50
 binding  : $5.40
 trimming: 3.75

 Total  : $49.65

 They would print onto a4 and then cut it in half and bind it. This is
 also contingent on there not being too much black on the pages.

 This price is for 1-4 copies, so if we got a lot done it would be less,
 but he was a bit vague about that.

 It could be worth getting an order together. This is cheaper then
 getting it from Amazon $30 US plus (say) $15 US postage, double it to
 NZ$ = $90. The cheapest large commercial offerings on linux are over
 $100 in Whitcoulls.

 Thoughts
 --
 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]