Re: Recommendation for printers
Lexmark E120 Built in networking accessable from linux windaz works brilliant :-) On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Graeme Kiyoto-Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am looking to buy a new printer. My wife has a Vista Laptop and I want her to be able to print via our Ethernet hub (which has a port for a USB printer). Has anyone heard of that arrangement working for Linux? Has anyone brought a printer recently and found it to work OK with Linux? Regards Graeme
Re: Recommendation for printers
I got my brand-new Brother MFC 665CW serving coloured printing via a wireless-only connection to the router. My home LAN has 2 wired Ubuntu machines (kids) my 64-bit Gentoo / 32-bit WinXP dualboot, also wired and printing on all is working well. Brother provides both Linux MS Win drivers for all models on their site. The only issue I found was that drivers for newer printer models haven't made into the various package management systems yet so I had to install them independantly - fairly minor issue. This was a couple of months ago so they may have now in which case it's a doddle. I'd recommend that if you're getting a new printer better to look at a model that has it's own print server built in. This means either one with it's own ethernet socket or a wireless model. If you don't you are either going to shell out for a print server (if your router doesn't) or use one of you'r comps as a print server (if your router doesn't) which be a nuisance. - Euan David Lowe wrote: Concur with other comments - I print OK from Linux to a HP connected to a USB print server built into my wireless router. - David -Original Message- From: Graeme Kiyoto-Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:41 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Recommendation for printers Hi I am looking to buy a new printer. My wife has a Vista Laptop and I want her to be able to print via our Ethernet hub (which has a port for a USB printer). Has anyone heard of that arrangement working for Linux? Has anyone brought a printer recently and found it to work OK with Linux? Regards Graeme
Re: Recommendation for printers
On Thu, 15 May 2008 21:24:01 +1200 Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip lots of useful info] We've got 2 printers here: a networked ( 10mbit! ) LJ4+ which I was given... it needed a firmware upgrade! And an HP PSC 950. The latter printer has outlasted 4 replacements so far: if you look at the printer, it's all written in Dutch. This is my third country since then. Granted, our printing needs are not great, but it's a shame that consumer printers have plummeted so far in quality over the last 5/7 years. Steve -- Steve Holdoway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu 15 May 2008 21:02:02 NZST +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners. As does everyone else. Brother achieved notorious popularity in Europe by sueing 3rd-party ink manufacturers. 3rd-party inks differ in 2 main areas from originals, AFAICT: 1) Flow. If you don't use the printer for some time, the channels and nozzles clog up. Cleaning is a waste of time, and always works by pumping ink through the system down a black hole, together with your savings. Some time ranges from 2 days on really cr*ppy stuff, to a month with originals. 2) Longevity. No problem if you don't care. If you do, you can maximise that by selecting both paper and ink from among the printer manufacturer's offerings. I do not believe that all of the really cheap'n'nasty printers work well with Linux. Canon scores high on the PITA scale, but tends to have lower running costs than Epson IIRC. Finally my usual note: if you want printer drivers which just work, typically for any printer incl the Canons, head over to turboprint.de and spend a very reasonable amount of money. You then also get margin-free printing (gimp-print sucks here), and free updates for the latest printer models and Linux distros. I've used it for the past 5 years, and could always rely on it. I wish I could, but can not, say the same thing for gimp-print, gutenprint, or whatever its name of the day. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
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I have two friends who have HP-1600 coloured laser printers. One has a built-in network print-server, the other a USB connection. The one with the print-server was an immediate plug-in and go situation on Ubuntu, The USB connection was a bit of a pain for the user to get going on Mandriva. While not as good as a modern ink-jet, the colour rendering is pretty good, especially when you take the cost of the printer into account. HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: Recommendation for printers
On Thu, 15 May 2008 9:24:01 pm Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Thu 15 May 2008 21:02:02 NZST +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners. As does everyone else. Not totally correct. Does not apply to the larger printers. In fact they are often differentiated by there comparative running costs not their machine purchase price. Rob
Re: Recommendation for printers
I have 2 Brother HL2040 operating on Ubuntu (Hardy currently but also worked on Gusty, Edgy Dapper) They are cheap and reliable mono lasers ($149), both have worked faultlessly and cost almost nothing to run Brother are not open source but offer linux drivers for download on their site, the default HL2060 driver in Ubuntu works OK to cheers dave 2008/5/16 Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 15 May 2008 9:24:01 pm Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Thu 15 May 2008 21:02:02 NZST +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners. As does everyone else. Not totally correct. Does not apply to the larger printers. In fact they are often differentiated by there comparative running costs not their machine purchase price. Rob
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On Fri 16 May 2008 07:20:44 NZST +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners. As does everyone else. Not totally correct. Does not apply to the larger printers. In fact they are often differentiated by there comparative running costs not their machine purchase price. What do you mean by larger here? And is there a difference between ink jet and laser? Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
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On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri 16 May 2008 07:20:44 NZST +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners. As does everyone else. Not totally correct. Does not apply to the larger printers. In fact they are often differentiated by there comparative running costs not their machine purchase price. What do you mean by larger here? And is there a difference between ink jet and laser? Thanks, Robert's company is Fuji-Xerox so I suspect he is talking the sort of machine that sits in an office, has network connectivity, a hard drive, numerous in and out trays and a whole office printing to it. It is also the office photocopier, scanner, fax machine and gossip station. If it breaks down the office grinds to a halt, ususally when something urgent needs to be done. In terms of mono laser I think the competition has made consumables relatively cheap for a consumer/soho printer. Now that colour lasers are becoming cheap, i suspect the manufacturers are enjoying the prospect of selling a lot of colour lasaer consumables to top up the overly cheap printers. So yes, I am cynical on that front. I'd be interested to see a price/quality comparison on colour inkjet vs laser. They have probably been done, I just haven't cared enough to notice. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
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I have the 1600 Chris refers to. It has a usb port cups 1.3.0 did not do a good job of setting it up. Getting the uri correct was the problem (my lack of knowledge?) I also have it running under cups 1.2.9 and it just goes. the 2600 version has an ethernet port and I think usb as well. It prints reasonable photos as well as great text. Barry Christopher Sawtell wrote: I have two friends who have HP-1600 coloured laser printers. One has a built-in network print-server, the other a USB connection. The one with the print-server was an immediate plug-in and go situation on Ubuntu, The USB connection was a bit of a pain for the user to get going on Mandriva. While not as good as a modern ink-jet, the colour rendering is pretty good, especially when you take the cost of the printer into account. HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners.
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I'd like to find a laser multifunction with linux support for all functionality (scan, fax (from and to computer), print etc). For $300 of course! On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the 1600 Chris refers to. It has a usb port cups 1.3.0 did not do a good job of setting it up. Getting the uri correct was the problem (my lack of knowledge?) I also have it running under cups 1.2.9 and it just goes. the 2600 version has an ethernet port and I think usb as well. It prints reasonable photos as well as great text. Barry Christopher Sawtell wrote: I have two friends who have HP-1600 coloured laser printers. One has a built-in network print-server, the other a USB connection. The one with the print-server was an immediate plug-in and go situation on Ubuntu, The USB connection was a bit of a pain for the user to get going on Mandriva. While not as good as a modern ink-jet, the colour rendering is pretty good, especially when you take the cost of the printer into account. HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners.
Re: Recommendation for printers
On Fri, 16 May 2008 9:11:08 am Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri 16 May 2008 07:20:44 NZST +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: HP make their money on the cost of the inks and toners. As does everyone else. Not totally correct. Does not apply to the larger printers. In fact they are often differentiated by there comparative running costs not their machine purchase price. What do you mean by larger here? And is there a difference between ink jet and laser? Thanks, Robert's company is Fuji-Xerox so I suspect he is talking the sort of machine that sits in an office, has network connectivity, a hard drive, numerous in and out trays and a whole office printing to it. It is also the office photocopier, scanner, fax machine and gossip station. If it breaks down the office grinds to a halt, ususally when something urgent needs to be done. Breakdowns?? You must be thinking of another brand. Seriously though, if a machine is so critical a support strategy is a good idea. Either a very good service contract or a backup machine. (Does not have to be in the same office) Robert
Recommendation for printers
Hi I am looking to buy a new printer. My wife has a Vista Laptop and I want her to be able to print via our Ethernet hub (which has a port for a USB printer). Has anyone heard of that arrangement working for Linux? Has anyone brought a printer recently and found it to work OK with Linux? Regards Graeme
Re: Recommendation for printers
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 22:41 +1200, Graeme Kiyoto-Ward wrote: Hi I am looking to buy a new printer. My wife has a Vista Laptop and I want her to be able to print via our Ethernet hub (which has a port for a USB printer). Has anyone heard of that arrangement working for Linux? Has anyone brought a printer recently and found it to work OK with Linux? As far as laser printers I have a Kyocera FS-1010 which is a fairly old model now (3+ years). Works very well over USB and only rarely fails to print documents that are graphic intensive. Newer models have updated postscript compatibility so I don't think will have this problem. I also have a Brother MFC-7820N multi-function laser printer / scanner / copier / fax. It has an ethernet connection and again works brilliantly. Inkjet wise we have a Canon PIXMA ink-jet - one of the ones that also has the tray for printing CD labels. Works great.
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On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Phill Coxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 22:41 +1200, Graeme Kiyoto-Ward wrote: Hi I am looking to buy a new printer. My wife has a Vista Laptop and I want her to be able to print via our Ethernet hub (which has a port for a USB printer). Has anyone heard of that arrangement working for Linux? Has anyone brought a printer recently and found it to work OK with Linux? As far as laser printers I have a Kyocera FS-1010 which is a fairly old model now (3+ years). Works very well over USB and only rarely fails to print documents that are graphic intensive. Newer models have updated postscript compatibility so I don't think will have this problem. I also have a Brother MFC-7820N multi-function laser printer / scanner / copier / fax. It has an ethernet connection and again works brilliantly. Inkjet wise we have a Canon PIXMA ink-jet - one of the ones that also has the tray for printing CD labels. Works great. HP support open source and provide open source drivers for most models (see http://hplip.sf.net). Failing that http://linuxprinting.org will tell you what worls and what doesn't.
RE: Recommendation for printers
Concur with other comments - I print OK from Linux to a HP connected to a USB print server built into my wireless router. - David -Original Message- From: Graeme Kiyoto-Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:41 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Recommendation for printers Hi I am looking to buy a new printer. My wife has a Vista Laptop and I want her to be able to print via our Ethernet hub (which has a port for a USB printer). Has anyone heard of that arrangement working for Linux? Has anyone brought a printer recently and found it to work OK with Linux? Regards Graeme
