Re: New site for Linux/390 Related Articles/Links

2001-12-05 Thread Post, Mark K

David,

Thanks.  I've already asked him off-list why he wanted to start his own
instead of contributing to linuxvm.org.  He didn't seem to realize I welcome
new content from others, so he said he would be willing to close down his
site, but I haven't heard back from him for sure as of yet.  Maybe more
notes like yours will expedite that.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New site for Linux/390 Related Articles/Links


 I am building a site to host articles and links, related
 exclusively to Linux/390.

To echo some other comments, why not just contribute to Mark Post's already
fairly comprehensive site, linuxvm.org? I'm sure that Mark wouldn't object
to someone helping out, or to give you a section of your own. I'd really
like to have fewer places to look for this stuff, rather than more.



Re: Mail Merge on Linux-390

2001-12-05 Thread Post, Mark K

I would suggest compiling the FORTRAN program on Linux, direct its output to
a file, and then run the lpr command against it.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Rod Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mail Merge on Linux-390


I need to mail merge a letter that then gets printed on my VSE line printer.
We have been using an old Fortran program for this.

Does anyone have an example of how to do this on Linux?

Thanks,
Rod
--
Rod Clayton KA3BHY
Systems Programmer
Howard County Public Schools
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



TSM Client Setup

2001-12-05 Thread Keith Reynolds

We now have the TSM client installed and successfully backup our Linux 390 image.  
However, I still have 2 questions:

1) The instructions say to update the .profile with 2 exports commands.  I don't seem 
to be able to find the .profile on my SuSE 7 system (I know where it is on USS).

2) How do I automate the startup of dsmcad during the boot process?  Do I really have 
to modify the /sbin/init.d/skeleton and /etc/rc.config?

Keith



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Re: VIF W-F-S

2001-12-05 Thread Kurt Acker

See: http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/pdf/vm420bas.html
for z/VM 420 base publications and notably the link for
System Administration Facility for VIF migrations and VIF like
functionality

Kurt Acker
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Re: linuxvm.org Content

2001-12-05 Thread Rick Troth

 Also, if anyone has any ideas about how to better classify the various links
 on the links page, or how to better organize the site so that it's easier
 for people to understand and navigate, let me know that also.  (As long as
 it doesn't involve HTML frames.  I'm not going there with this site.)

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU
for NOT using frames, animation, Java, and other useless improvements
that clutter other web sites and make them less navigable.

--
Rick Troth, BMC Software, Inc., speaking for myself
2101 City West Blvd., Houston, Texas, USA, 77042  1-800-841-2031



SSHD on Redhat RC2

2001-12-05 Thread Arty Ecock

Hi,

   I just installed Redhat 7.2 RC2.  sshd is running, but now PuTTY no longer
seems to want to work.  It's giving me an Unable to open connection:
connect(): unknown error.  I have the IP address correct, as well as the
port.  Very strange.

Cheers,
Arty



Re: New site for Linux/390 Related Articles/Links

2001-12-05 Thread dennisw

I usually don't do this, but

  Me Too!






David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/05/2001 11:08:36 AM

Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Dennis Wicks/infosvcs/CDG)
Subject:  Re: New site for Linux/390 Related Articles/Links





 I am building a site to host articles and links, related
 exclusively to Linux/390.

To echo some other comments, why not just contribute to Mark Post's already
fairly comprehensive site, linuxvm.org? I'm sure that Mark wouldn't object
to someone helping out, or to give you a section of your own. I'd really
like to have fewer places to look for this stuff, rather than more.



Re: New Site is not available anymore

2001-12-05 Thread Rich Smrcina

I hope you don't take our comments the wrong way.  We appreciate every offer
to help, but it is probably the consensus that your time (and ours) is
better served by contributing to the site that Mark maintains (he certainly
welcomes it).

Rich Smrcina
Sytek Services, Inc.
Milwaukee, WI
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Catch the WAVV!  Stay for Requirements and the Free for All!
Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price.
WAVV 2002 in Cincinnati (Fort Mitchell, KY).
April 12-16, 2002
For details see http://www.wavv.org

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- Original Message -
From: SAMY rengasamy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:05 PM
Subject: New Site is not available anymore


 I was not trying to contend with the Official Home of the Linux/390
Project. I do understand that me having  a new site will cause people to
look for Linux/390 stuff at multiple sites. I thought, I was trying to help
the community, but if I am hurting it, I am sorry for that.

 I do ask everbody getting help from the mailing list to create write ups
on their experience and get it posted at Official Home of the Linux/390
Project.

 Thanks,

 Samy Rengasamy.



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Re: SSHD on Redhat RC2

2001-12-05 Thread Holly, Jason

have you tried protocols 1 AND 2?  seems like here when we upgraded ssh
sometime ago putty suddenly had problems and i cannot recall if we upgraded
putty or just changed the default protocol.  currently using putty v0.51

-Original Message-
From: Arty Ecock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SSHD on Redhat RC2


Hi,

   I just installed Redhat 7.2 RC2.  sshd is running, but now PuTTY no
longer
seems to want to work.  It's giving me an Unable to open connection:
connect(): unknown error.  I have the IP address correct, as well as the
port.  Very strange.

Cheers,
Arty



Re: Mail Merge on Linux-390

2001-12-05 Thread Rod Clayton

Does the gf77 compiler support the fortran 4 language level?

Thanks,
Rod

  I need to mail merge a letter that then gets printed on my
 VSE line printer.
 We have been using an old Fortran program for this.

If you've got the source to the Fortran program and you don't want to change
anything, the steps will look something like this:

Install the gf77 compiler on Linux.
FTP the Fortran source to Linux and the data files and compile the Fortran
with gf77 program.f
If the program uses unit number-based I/O you'll need to read the GF77 docs
to indicate how to associate files with unit numbers, or modify the Fortran
to explicitly open the file and associate it with a unit number.
Run the program.
Print the output with LPR.

If you don't mind some additional changes (and want a nicer looking letter),
you may want to modify your Fortran program to emit troff commands (troff is
a text formatter like DCF) to make the letters and then postprocess the
output file with troff.  troff will allow you to use all the features of
your printer, produce Postscript or PCL output, and generate a lot of useful
other stuff.  There are macro packages included with troff (I'd suggest
using the mm macros-- they're easy and well documented.) Your output letter
might look like:

.MT 5
.ND date of letter
.WA writers name
return address
.WE
.IA
recipients address
.IE
.LO RN  in reference string
.LO AT attention line
.LO SA salutation
.LO SJ subject line
.LT
.P
text of the letter with .P on a line by itself between paragraphs
.FC
text of closing

and then you run the output file through 'troff -mm output.file | dvips |
lpr -Pyour fave printer' and you get a very nicely formatted letter to print
on your postscript printer. If you want plain text, use dvitty instead of
dvips.  The MM macros do the work of formatting and constructing the letter.
See the ATT Documentor's Workshop manuals or man mm for details.

-- db


--
Rod Clayton KA3BHY
Systems Programmer
Howard County Public Schools
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: OT (somewhat) - ps2pdf tool

2001-12-05 Thread Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers 
Indeed. Also better check the settings on that wayback machine of yours.
Try more like the 1890s. The all mechanical versions, sure. By the 1930s
more of them ran that way. Besides, my dad, and my grandfather both were
running a shop which used Intertype machines. So, I do know enough about
them. So we agree on almost everything here. Also, I am inclined to lean
more in your direction regarding the PS output devices on Linux. And my
father did work with both of those guys, as I said. In three different
places, at different phases in his career. For myself, I prefer Times
Roman, for all of my work, except when it is necessary to use a special
symbol, like those dingbats. Say, which proprietary page description
language from Linotype are you referring to? I ask that, because this is
what I remember, Cora ran inside the L500 for example. And this was the
step sequence: You sent your output from, say a Mac, running Quark, into
a RIP, who then translated into Cora for the L500. Come to think of it,
the same hare brained process was used for sending output from that
midrange based system, as well. And yes, I agree, on somebody like that
L500, you definitely need to use fonts, that look better at that level
of resolution. Which explains why it took forever to get some fonts cut
for the family.
---
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 -Original Message-
 From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:27 PM
 To: 'Gregg C Levine'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: OT (somewhat) - ps2pdf tool
 
  Basically you are very correct David in your
  statements. Except on one. The Linotype machines, L300, and L500,
and
  their relatives, and descendants, are actually output devices,
 
 Correct.
 
  and
  predate Linux and actual desktop publishing by about three years.
That
  from having worked with one, on a midrange based system.
 
 Umm, this is personal experience talking. Sherman, set up the Wayback
 Machine8-)
 
 The Linotype brand is much older than that, having been created in the
 late 1930s as a slug casting system for newsprint and professional
press
 job set up that cast molten lead into full lines of type as lead
slugs
 (each representing a line of text, and thus the name line-o-type)
that
 were fitted into a page frame and used in offset and pressure-backed
 printing presses. The Linotype (note the missing e) PostScript front
 ends were released 8 months following the public release of Adobe
 PostScript version 1, replacing an earlier proprietary Linotype page
 description language and competing with the Xerox Courier network
 printing protocol.
 
 The major reason I put the distinction in my note is that Linotype
 devices (and other professional presses) generally operate at 2400 dpi
 resolution (about 4 times the resolution of the typical Canon-based
 desktop laser printer) and bitmaps for 600 dpi printers look LOUSY on
 that type of device.  The stroke-based character font definitions are
 interpreted by the PostScript interpreter in the press device, and
thus
 are rendered at full device resolution, producing significantly better
 output.
 
 I've used the actual lead-slug-producing kind. They're fun. Loud,
clanky
 machinery, a bazillion motors moving rods and gears, molten metal,
plus
 cryptic commands and having to type like you're raising a ten pound
 weight with your fingers all in one lovely device.  It's a device that
 only an engineer could love, and it's a beauty in a gross
 electro-mechanical sense...
 
 -- db
 
 



Re: Problems porting Pth (Portable threads)

2001-12-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman

On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:07:05PM -0700, Dave Pitts wrote:

 Has anybody successfully ported the GNU Portable Threads (Pth) library to
 Linux/390?  I've tried with versions 1.3.7 and 1.4.0.

 I have both  the TurboLinux and SuSE 390 distrbutions and  I get the same
 compile errors on each distrbuition.  The configurator does figure out the
 system correctly as  s390-ibm-linux-gnu2.2glibc2.1.

 Thought I'd ask before jumping into the code.

What compile errors do you get?

It compiles out of the box on Debian, and make check succeeds.  Maybe it
is just a matter of building against a more up-to-date toolchain and
libraries.

--
 - mdz



Re. OT: Microsoft may be in for it

2001-12-05 Thread Welton, Sebastian

 Educational copies of Windows XP in the UK (sealed boxes that is) come with a 
promotional leaflet for SUSE Linux 7.3 inside them.


MfG / Best Regards

Sebastian Welton

GZS Gesellschaft für Zahlungssysteme mbH
Raum:  2.030A
Telefon:069/7933-1183
email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date:Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:12:52 -0800
From:Lionel Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Microsoft may be in for it

From www.ntk.org (need to know):


  Mr Gates is due in the UK this week, patting Blair's head,




Re: Backup and Restore for Disaster Recovery

2001-12-05 Thread Monteleone

That's exactly what i do, i just have to modify my parmfile for dasd
parameter, and my dns for the new ip address.
Hope this help.
-
- Original Message -
From: SAMY rengasamy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:31 AM
Subject: Backup and Restore for Disaster Recovery


 We have SuSe 7.0 running successfully in an LPAR by itself. Used
offlindr - OS/390 offline DASD dump/restore program source to backup the
complete linux dasd's from MVS in 18 minutes. We are setting up another LPAR
to restore the data to test disaster recovery. Has anybody done this before?
We do have to change /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab. What were the challenges
faced by any of you? Any catches, snags, surprises.??

 Thanks for your help,

 Samy Rengasamy.



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