[ILUG-BOM] Microsoft-Novell Collaboration

2006-11-04 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
Ah hello!

I'm really surprised no has bothered throwing this piece of meat into 
the doghouse yet. Maybe everyone is dumbstruck? Well, anyway, for the 
unknowing:

http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/default.mspx
http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/

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[ILUG-BOM] Shiv Kumar's Tribune India Article

2006-11-04 Thread Vihan Pandey

Hi Shiv,
 i checked out your article, one query however you mention :

`` The recent scandal involving software engineers at the National Security
Council Secretariat who leaked information to the American Central
Intelligence Agency allegedly saw some of them swap secrets including
information on India's nuclear doctrine for jobs with Microsoft.

i don't remember hearing about this, and could not find any info on the same
online. If you could please forward the link of this story that would be
most appreciated.

One complaint however, you mention the terms ``Linux Operating
Systems, ``Linux
Ubuntu Dapper Drake and ``General Public Licence Linux OS would it not be
fair on your part to also mention GNU, ASF, BSD and other communities
without whom you cannot call that entity an operating system.

If the article's purpose is to raise awareness, it makes sense to also tell
people about the community(s)

Anyone have any comments on what i've written ?

Regards,

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Microsoft-Novell Collaboration

2006-11-04 Thread Harsh Busa

On 11/3/06, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ah hello!

I'm really surprised no has bothered throwing this piece of meat into
the doghouse yet. Maybe everyone is dumbstruck? Well, anyway, for the
unknowing:

http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/default.mspx
http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/

Comments people?



i think its an excellent step taken by both ms and novell. finally its
becoming a mature market.

tech market has always been about co-operative competition.
interoperability is key to fostering growth of all platforms.

kudos to novell and ms

Harsh

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Disk sharing over network.

2006-11-04 Thread Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray

What i plan to have is that when users see a directory called Data
it should be a combination of hostA, HostB, HostC harddisk.guy.
(snip)
I can use a LVM


LVM should exactly suit your needs. Just create a volume group
consisting of (/dev/hda, /dev/hdb, /dev/hdc, etc.. or /dev/hda1,
/dev/hdb2, etc..) and then create logical volumes out of the volume
group. Maybe you can have a single logical volume for the whole group.

I hope I understood your problem correctly.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Microsoft-Novell Collaboration

2006-11-04 Thread പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen

2006/11/4, Harsh Busa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

i think its an excellent step taken by both ms and novell. finally its
becoming a mature market.

tech market has always been about co-operative competition.
interoperability is key to fostering growth of all platforms.

kudos to novell and ms


Atleast Bruce Perens and Eben Moglen does not seem to agree with you.

Novell-Microsoft: What They Aren't Telling You

Today Novell and Microsoft announced a partnership in which Microsoft has

made some unlikely-seeming promises regarding Linux. What aren't they
telling you? First, you can be sure that Microsoft's not out to help a
competitor. This announcement paves the way for Microsoft to implement
significant control over commercial customer's use of Free Software. And
it
has significant negative implications for Open Source in general.




http://technocrat.net/d/2006/11/2/9945

See what Eben Moglen has to say about the possibility of GPL violation
http://news.com.com/2061-10795_3-6132156.html


Microsoft is bragging in their press release that they found a way
around the GPL by using a covenant, probably a covenant not to sue,
we'll have to see the details. Whatever way they do it, they are at
least circumventing the spirit of the license, and possibly the
letter. Shame on Novell for helping them do that. And doesn't this
remind you why we need a GPL3.

I don't think that coupling the patent protection to a support
contract would be any better - it's still about using the software,
the GPL still covers that software.


http://technocrat.net/d/2006/11/2/9986

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[ILUG-BOM] Re: Microsoft-Novell Collaboration

2006-11-04 Thread krishnakant Mane

On 04/11/06, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ah hello!



http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/default.mspx
http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/

well, is it a slow poison for gnu/linux?
how much will microsoft really follow?
krishnakant.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Microsoft-Novell Collaboration

2006-11-04 Thread പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen

2006/11/4, krishnakant Mane [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



well, is it a slow poison for gnu/linux?
how much will microsoft really follow?
krishnakant.

Couldn't resist sharing this :-)



So, this girl settles down on the couch with a convicted rapist for a kiss
and
cuddle. Later, she's found in the gutter, beaten and bleeding, sobbing He
seemed so nice, I thought he'd changed his ways...


http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=displaysid=20061103073628401title=But%20I%20thought%20he%27d%20changed%2C%20she%20cried.type=articleorder=hideanonymous=0pid=0#c498509

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: FSF announces release of gNewSense 1.0

2006-11-04 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 03/11/06 11:00 +, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
 On Friday 03 November 2006 04:52, krishnakant Mane wrote:
  wrong with g nusence as well.
 
 ROTFL...krishnakant its new sense and not nusence :P
 
I have no idea of what Krishnakant uses for input (voice recognition?
keyboard? both?), but I do know that his computer's output is by voice
only.

Please keep his disability in mind before cracking jokes. Or write a
spellchecker which understands what he is saying and writes correct
output even for homonyms.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Microsoft-Novell Collaboration

2006-11-04 Thread jtd
On Saturday 04 November 2006 13:13, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 Ah hello!

 I'm really surprised no has bothered throwing this piece of meat
 into the doghouse yet. Maybe everyone is dumbstruck? Well, anyway,
 for the unknowing:

Vistaaarrrgh. Where is it. God all my $$ plans are in shreds. NOO 
wait. Just took the newspaper cutting to a few fence sitter clients 
and some in the process of switching. They were Dumbstruck. Whata 
wonderful clue bat that is.
Thank u Mundee / Billy baba and all ye cohorts for the kind assistance 
in overcoming vista withdrawl symptoms.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: FSF announces release of gNewSense 1.0

2006-11-04 Thread Dinesh Joshi
On Saturday 04 November 2006 10:42, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
 I have no idea of what Krishnakant uses for input (voice recognition?
 keyboard? both?), but I do know that his computer's output is by
 voice only.

 Please keep his disability in mind before cracking jokes. Or write a
 spellchecker which understands what he is saying and writes correct
 output even for homonyms.

It was supposed to be taken in good humor.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux on Intel 845 GLVA

2006-11-04 Thread Rony

jtd wrote:

On Saturday 04 November 2006 19:34, Rony wrote:

Hello All,

I was looking forward towards installing a debian based distro for
my client who uses Mandrake 10.1 on a Celeron 2 Ghz. and Intel 845
glva mobo and Intel ethernet card. However to my surprise, neither
Ubuntu 5.10 live nor kubuntu 6.06 live+install gave a screen
resolution of more than 640 x 480 in spite of the xorg.conf having
entries for 1024 x 768 and 800 x 600.


Sarge works out of the box. So Ubuntu etc should. What is the order of 
the resolution in the config file. 1024x768 should be the first 
followed by the fall backs. Also your sync params might be wrong.




The order was correct and pre-loaded. What are the sync params? I have 
noticed this problem even in Mercury 845 boards.

However Mandriva did not pose any problems.

Regards,

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: FSF announces release of gNewSense 1.0

2006-11-04 Thread Rony

Dinesh Joshi wrote:

On Saturday 04 November 2006 10:42, Devdas Bhagat wrote:

I have no idea of what Krishnakant uses for input (voice recognition?
keyboard? both?), but I do know that his computer's output is by
voice only.

Please keep his disability in mind before cracking jokes. Or write a
spellchecker which understands what he is saying and writes correct
output even for homonyms.


It was supposed to be taken in good humor.



He is fast at typing. Its his speech processor that can't keep pace. 
*smile*  Whenever I am with him, I feel handicapped as the monitor is 
not switched on till I remind him, while he is happily typing away. 
*smile*  He's an ace with the keyboard.


Regards,

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[ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux on Intel 845 GLVA

2006-11-04 Thread krishnakant Mane

hi rony.
I insidentally happen happened to install ubuntu 6.06 on a machine
with exactly same configuration.
the mobo was a giga byte 845.  I did not find any problem and believe
that debian should work as well.
infact ubuntu went so smoothly that the gentelman has not used any
thing ever since I installed it.
he is in Neral and I had told you this when I was at your place for
going to the bof meeting.
if there are some other specifications you need about the config, do
let me know.
Krishnakant.

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[ILUG-BOM] Re: FSF announces release of gNewSense 1.0

2006-11-04 Thread krishnakant Mane

it is ok.
don't mind it.
actually in a way I can say it is my mistake because I should have
checked the word by going back.  but again as Devdas rightly pointed
out, the speach synthesizer is not that good and even the screen
reader is not efficient enough to let me know mistakes for even
standard words, so forget gnu and new.  in my screen reader, both gnu
and new are pronounced as new.
but firstly keep such messages private and Roni and Devdas, thanks a
lot for your modest consideration.  both of u guessed it right and
since rony has seen me, he knows I never switch on the screen and so I
am very fast at keyboard.
just one fun part for every one reading.
by being blind I am not handicap but have a great advantage.  I can
have complete privacy while using my computer.  I just put the head
phones and switch off the moniter.
now what ever I do, is only in my ears.
isn't it an advantage?
haha.
thanks again for your modest consideration.
Krishnakant.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux on Intel 845 GLVA

2006-11-04 Thread Rony

krishnakant Mane wrote:

hi rony.
I insidentally happen happened to install ubuntu 6.06 on a machine
with exactly same configuration.
the mobo was a giga byte 845.  I did not find any problem and believe
that debian should work as well.
infact ubuntu went so smoothly that the gentelman has not used any
thing ever since I installed it.
he is in Neral and I had told you this when I was at your place for
going to the bof meeting.
if there are some other specifications you need about the config, do
let me know.




Hi Krish, its not the same for all 845 chipsets and mobos. I feel that 
even within 845, there are different grades and maybe the GL chipset is 
low grade and not properly recognised by some linux distros. That client 
has an Intel original 845 GLVA. My own system has 845 GEBV2 and its the 
most compatible one with various distros.


Regards,

Rony.


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