Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux expert with a monitoring background required.

2006-12-18 Thread Dinesh Joshi
On Monday 18 December 2006 11:22, Dhawal Doshy wrote:
 Looking at the feathers that i have been ruffling as of late, looks
 like i'm not too welcome on this list. If thats the general consensus
 i'll sadly un-subscribe. Feedback solicited.

and I thought I was a drama queen... sheesh... no need to get senti 
buddy ;)


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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux expert with a monitoring background required.

2006-12-18 Thread Dhawal Doshy

Dinesh Joshi wrote:

On Monday 18 December 2006 11:22, Dhawal Doshy wrote:

Looking at the feathers that i have been ruffling as of late, looks
like i'm not too welcome on this list. If thats the general consensus
i'll sadly un-subscribe. Feedback solicited.


and I thought I was a drama queen... sheesh... no need to get senti 
buddy ;)


Like i said earlier,, use the right tool for the job.. ;-)

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux expert with a monitoring background required.

2006-12-18 Thread dipankar das
On Monday 18 Dec 2006 4:01 pm, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
 Some people don't have the luxury of being able to enforce that their
 resume will always be sent using open formats. The kind of people whose
 resumes will be sent in through recruitment agencies.

They can always write in FLOSS and send as a PDF: no luxury at all, maybe a 
bit more labor. 

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux expert with a monitoring background required.

2006-12-18 Thread benjamin

i find it HIGHLY OFFENSIVE that you are encouraging the use of a .doc file
format in a GNU/Linux mailing list. Even if your mail is tagged as
commercial.

Regards,

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I find your response highly offensive.
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[ILUG-BOM] Moderation of Commercial threads (inspired by: Linux expert with a monitoring background required)

2006-12-18 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar

Hi,

Can we make it a practice|rule to NOT respond to threads that are
marked Commercial, especially potentially inflammatory responses? We
could have some kind of automated filter or something that blocks off
replies to commercial threads. We could follow two simple rules:

1) Moderate Commercial tagged emails so that there is no spam coming in
2) Disallow replies to commercial threads. Any inquiries can be made off-list.

Probably a bit more work for the mods but most off-the-line threads
seem to spawn themselves from Commercial threads of late.


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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Moderation of Commercial threads (inspired by: Linux expert with a monitoring background required)

2006-12-18 Thread Sachin Nambiar



Can we make it a practice|rule to NOT respond to threads that are
marked Commercial,


Iam new to the group and i use opera to surf/read/write emails on an  
u/xubuntu system. I do not see any marking on any of the emails suggesting  
commercial. I have not opted for the daily digest. Where does it say its  
commercial or otherwise?


My apologies in advance if this was too simple a question. :)

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[ILUG-BOM] Google Earth problem.

2006-12-18 Thread Sachin Nambiar

Hello,

I have recently moved to GNU/Linux,

I recently installed Google Earth and iam unable to change the display to  
show up completely to my desktop resolution (1280x1024). It just shows up  
half way. Any ideas? Everything else working perfectly or i just do not  
know if anything is malfunctioning.


Background:
Newbie yet not so newbie user. Been exposed to linux since rh 5.3 but  
limited to just basic functionality and have moved to linux completely  
only now. If there is any more information you would like to have please  
let me know,


onboard i810 intel 865 chipset, 2.4 GHz, 256 mb ram, swap around 700mb.

Thank you in advance.
Sachin G. Nambiar
snambiar.com
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[ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread Abhishek Daga
Finally managed to get my hands on some P2 350s with 64 MB and 4 GB.
CDROM thrown in too. (atleast in one of them).
it has 98 for now, but planning to use a stripped down version of
ubuntu.
if there was ever such a thing.

My basic (and probably only requirements are)
1) Wine
2) The two browsers. FF and IE.
3) a teeny .exe application that will be run over wine just like IE.

Am pretty sure the above config should meet those needs, but is there
any further stripping i need to do while installing the standard ubuntu
6.06 dapper drake to make it more lightweight?

thanks
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Re: [ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread Dhawal Doshy


Quoting Abhishek Daga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Finally managed to get my hands on some P2 350s with 64 MB and 4 GB.
CDROM thrown in too. (atleast in one of them).
it has 98 for now, but planning to use a stripped down version of
ubuntu.
if there was ever such a thing.

My basic (and probably only requirements are)
1) Wine
2) The two browsers. FF and IE.
3) a teeny .exe application that will be run over wine just like IE.


most distros will allow a minimal install.. use what you like and are  
comfortable with (for instance try fc6 with xfce). For IE on linux see  
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page (i haven't tried it  
but the lack of java support is discouraging).


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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Moderation of Commercial threads (inspired by: Linux expert with a monitoring background required)

2006-12-18 Thread Sachin Nambiar

Thank you.



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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux expert with a monitoring background required.

2006-12-18 Thread Anurag
Sometime on Monday 18 December 2006 11:22, Dhawal Doshy said:
 Gimme a break and be practical.. use the right tool for the job and stop
 being a GNU/Linux fanboi.. and while you are at it, stop calling it
 GNU/Linux as well.. simply 'linux' does the trick. Don't get me wrong, I
 love linux.. it gives me and my family lunch, dinner, an occasional
 drink and a good life. I am a linux user/admin, not a slave.

Fanbois too have an important role to play IMHO. As someone said, it takes all 
kinds of people to form a vibrant community.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread Dinesh Shah

Dear Abhishek,

On 12/18/06, Abhishek Daga abhishekdaga at yahoo dot com wrote:

Finally managed to get my hands on some P2 350s with 64 MB and 4 GB.
CDROM thrown in too. (atleast in one of them).
it has 98 for now, but planning to use a stripped down version of
ubuntu.
if there was ever such a thing.


Try Damn Small Linux (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/) it supports HDD
Install and very light.


My basic (and probably only requirements are)
1) Wine
2) The two browsers. FF and IE.
3) a teeny .exe application that will be run over wine just like IE.


DSL is Debian based and after installation you can use apt to install
whatever you want.


Am pretty sure the above config should meet those needs, but is there
any further stripping i need to do while installing the standard ubuntu
6.06 dapper drake to make it more lightweight?


According to DSL site, all you need is 486 with 16 MB of RAM!

No need to reinvent the wheel.


thanks
abhi


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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Moderation of Commercial threads (inspired by: Linux expert with a monitoring background required)

2006-12-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves


On 18-Dec-06, at 10:14 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:

1) Moderate Commercial tagged emails so that there is no spam  
coming in
2) Disallow replies to commercial threads. Any inquiries can be  
made off-list.


Probably a bit more work for the mods but most off-the-line threads
seem to spawn themselves from Commercial threads of late.


i dont agree - *any* post must conform to list guidelines, and if  
commercial posts dont, they need to be discussed on list. And  
remember - intervention of list admins is the last resort. We seem to  
be doing a pretty good job of policing the list ourselves. I dont  
think anyone has been banned or moderated since I joined this list.  
Which is a great thing.



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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Google Earth problem.

2006-12-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves


On 18-Dec-06, at 10:50 PM, Sachin Nambiar wrote:

I recently installed Google Earth and iam unable to change the  
display to show up completely to my desktop resolution (1280x1024).  
It just shows up half way.


which distro? i had used google earth a long time back when first  
released. It ran great on ubuntu 5.x and was borked on 6.x. And on  
fedora - never went back to check though.



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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux expert with a monitoring background required.

2006-12-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves


On 18-Dec-06, at 9:31 PM, benjamin wrote:


Regards,

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I find your response highly offensive.


and since we are in a flaming mood - please take the trouble of  
trimming posts before replying.



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Re: [ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves


On 18-Dec-06, at 11:21 PM, Dhawal Doshy wrote:

 For IE on linux see http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/ 
Main_Page (i haven't tried it but the lack of java support is  
discouraging).


have tried it - and it is meant only for testing html and css - and  
does it well, crashes where IE should crash. Incidently, from what i  
can see on the downloads page for IE, running IE on linux is a  
violation of the IE EULA. Aparently this is true even if one pays for  
IE.



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Re: [ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves


On 18-Dec-06, at 11:26 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:


I've had a minimal box on Celeron 500 MHz albeit with much more RAM
(192 MB). It used to run KDE/Gnome a little slowly and XFCe was quite
good. Blackbox was fast as a storm.


for the last three years i have been comfortably running mandrake 10  
on a celeron 400 with 96 mb ram and 4 gb harddisk. Including Oo,  
zope, apache, postgresql and what have you. On Kde. Little slow to  
load Oo, but ok after it loads



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Re: [ILUG-BOM] What is stoping Indians from contributing to FOSS?

2006-12-18 Thread Rajesh Rajani

Hi,


On Monday 18 December 2006 10:48, Vihan Pandey wrote:


Speaking of which my latest Sony DVD writer has a region setting
which can be reprogrammed 5 times. After which it will stay stuck
on the 5th. Now u have the possibilty of bricking your hardware
(particularly with closed drivers) or purchasing your content
from the last region.


Is it a hardware level lock? This REALLY stinks.



Not sure. U can reflash the cdrom bios, but dont know if it will reset 
the region counter.




Just to inform you that in the US and possibly other countries, all DVD 
writers/roms sold require to have this lock. It is mandated by the 
RIAA/MPAA and by extension US law so that you cannot freely change 
regions to play DVDs released in other regions. The fact that you can 
change it 5 times is a privilege extracted from these agencies by the 
manufacturers of the devices.


That Sony has it is not unique and it just says that they are selling 
the international model here in India. If other brands don't have this 
lock then they are probably chinese/taiwanese players who may not be 
fully complying with the law (if it applies in India).


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Re: [ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread പ്രവീണ്‍‌|Praveen

2006/12/18, Abhishek Daga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Finally managed to get my hands on some P2 350s with 64 MB and 4 GB.
CDROM thrown in too. (atleast in one of them).



I'm currently running Debain GNU/Linux etch RC1 (with linux kernel 2.6.17)
on my
P2 266MHz, 256 MB RAM, 2 GB HDD, CDROM+Floppy system.

it has 98 for now, but planning to use a stripped down version of

ubuntu.



The minimum requirement for Debian GNU/Linux etch is 32MB RAM (It is 24 if
you go for sarge) and 256MB Hard Disk space.

I'm running WindowMaker now and it works awesome (I used to run GNOME but
had toremove it as I needed Open Office and GNU/Hurd in the 2 GB). I have
1.1 GB for GNU/Linux

if there was ever such a thing.


My basic (and probably only requirements are)
1) Wine



I have tried it in my office desktop

2) The two browsers. FF and IE.


Again used to use IE for some intranet resources that only works with IE.

3) a teeny .exe application that will be run over wine just like IE.


If it is  small one it should not cause any  problems.

Am pretty sure the above config should meet those needs, but is there

any further stripping i need to do while installing the standard ubuntu
6.06 dapper drake to make it more lightweight?



I would suggest Debian/Gentoo/slackware/DSL rather than re-inventing the
wheel as suggested by  others.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread Vickram Crishna

--- Dinesh Shah  wrote:
 On 12/18/06, Abhishek Daga abhishekdaga at yahoo
 dot com wrote:
  Finally managed to get my hands on some P2 350s
 with 64 MB and 4 GB.
  CDROM thrown in too. (atleast in one of them).
  it has 98 for now, but planning to use a stripped
 down version of
  ubuntu.
  if there was ever such a thing.
 
 Try Damn Small Linux
 (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/) it supports HDD
 Install and very light.
 
 DSL is Debian based and after installation you can
 use apt to install
 whatever you want.
 
 According to DSL site, all you need is 486 with 16
 MB of RAM!

If I download this to my HDD, and install it to
replace my current RH9, which has some irritating
issues with memory handling (aside from issues
recognising peripheral hardware, plus the CDROM drive
is kaput), will I lose my RH9 user settings?

If this is a completely trivial question, please do
mail me back offlist, anyone who can guide me ensure
that neither settings nor stuff like mailboxes get
lost (this is the computer my wife uses, and my life
will be at stake).

Many thanks

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Moderation of Commercial threads (inspired by: Linux expert with a monitoring background required)

2006-12-18 Thread Vinayak Hegde

On 12/18/06, Siddhesh Poyarekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1) Moderate Commercial tagged emails so that there is no spam coming in
2) Disallow replies to commercial threads. Any inquiries can be made off-list.

Probably a bit more work for the mods but most off-the-line threads
seem to spawn themselves from Commercial threads of late.


There is no need for moderation. If you are bothered by it you can filter
the mail yourself. I see that you have a gmail account. You can create a filter
with To: linuxers@mm.glug-bom.org and has the words Commercial in the
subject/mail add add a tag called likely spam. Then delete the mails
automatically or manually delete them in your leisure time.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] as low as it gets: P2-350, 64 MB, 4 GB

2006-12-18 Thread Devdas Bhagat
On 19/12/06 05:08 +, Vickram Crishna wrote:
snip
 If this is a completely trivial question, please do
 mail me back offlist, anyone who can guide me ensure
 that neither settings nor stuff like mailboxes get
 lost (this is the computer my wife uses, and my life
 will be at stake).

This is pretty much a FAQ, but for the sake of completeness, here goes:

Unix systems have the conecpt of a user home directory. This is the
place where you start from when you log in. This is usually represented
by the character ~.

Applications have their configurations in dot files (the file names start
with a .) in the user home directory.

Global configuration information like passwords or system wide
configuration files go into /etc.

Normally, mail is stored in ~, but you may also find it being stored in
your mail spool directory (/var/mail or /var/spool/mail on Linux
systems, mostly).

In the case of RH, home directories are under /home, so as long as you
back that up, you should have most of your customisations. Keep in mind
that version changes can affect configuration files or directories,
particularly in the case of application suites like GNOME and KDE.

For most people though, backing up ~ and /var/spool/ should save system
state. A backup of /etc/ is advisable as well, _particularly_ /etc/X11.
If you are switching distros, you should recreate your users manually
(or script it using chpasswd(8)). Then after you have restored /home,
run 'chown -R user: /home/user/' as root, where user is to be
substituted by the appropriate user name.

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Re: [ILUG-BOM] What is stoping Indians from contributing to FOSS?

2006-12-18 Thread jtd
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 09:11, Rajesh Rajani wrote:

 Just to inform you that in the US  and possibly other countries, 

Afaik it's legally mandated only in a few countries. USA, austriallia 
for sure but not in India.

 all  
 DVD writers/roms sold require to have this lock. It is mandated by
 the RIAA/MPAA and by extension US law so that you cannot freely
 change regions to play DVDs released in other regions. The fact
 that you can change it 5 times is a privilege extracted from these
 agencies by the manufacturers of the devices.

 That Sony has it is not unique and it just says that they are
 selling the international model here in India. If other brands
 don't have this lock then they are probably chinese/taiwanese
 players who may not be fully complying with the law (if it applies
 in India).

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