Re: [ILUG-BOM] problems with installing ubuntu on an intel ggc based machine Please help.
On 1/25/07, krishnakant Mane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello. I had the shock of my life today. I had previously mentioned about a server installation I have to do. I don't find it will be any problem after the feedback I got about fedora. however there is another case which is really very interesting. I am trying to install gnu/linux on a machine with a seluron 2.8 processor and an intel ggc 2 motherboard with ati radeon display (the board is the latest intel mobo) if the case was a very streight forward case I would never have a problem in changing the distro. does this link help u http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature/319373.htm HRB -- __ http://www.ebackend.com/blog -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Re:Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is your C: drive. I have only two partitions,C: and D: 37.27 GB each You have a lot to learn in the linux world. Don't go by what the big names say. More oft than not they are wrong. AFAIK 101 board has no problems with Ubuntu. If ever in doubt, google is your best friend. I googled ( Linux + Intel + 101 + board + problems ) and in about 2 mins I found out that 101 works well with FC4/5/6. So Ubuntu must definitely support it. Try it out and see if it works. If it doesnt then the community will surely help you out. Same story with my DG965RY board. I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he hasie TSSTCorp CDW/DVD SH-M522C In the end a little tweaking, searching and community help went long way in getting my system working smoothly and I am ECSTATIC that Linux runs my system! :) -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Daylight Saving Time
On 25/01/07 07:24 -, Mangesh V Rakhunde wrote: ? Hi The United States Congress passed an energy policy act which will change the start and end dates for daylight savings time (DST). The changes go into effect March 2007. Microsoft has released patches for this. Is there any requirement to do anything on Linux boxes ? Unless you have applications which deal with DST issues, no. Otherwise upgrade your tzdata package. Running on UTC and using TZ is far more sensible on servers. Devdas Bhagat -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM][OT] Re:Core2Duo v/s Pentium D
On 1/26/07, C.E. Hariharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he hasie TSSTCorp CDW/DVD SH-M522C Is that Samsung? Then I would suggest you to return it ASAP. Samsung are the worst optical drives I have heard from. I have seen so many complaints from lots of users at different forums and experienced it myself too. Either the problem is with tray - it doesn't open or doesn't close properly, or with the laser - doesn't read the media. Get something like LiteOn or maybe even Sony. PS: - I have marked OT as it seems topic has gone way too OT for the list. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] problems with installing ubuntu on an intel ggc based machine Please help.
Harsh Busa wrote: does this link help u http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/feature/319373.htm Other than Mandriva 2007, noe of the other compatible distros exist, especially the Chinese ones. Anyone on this list has Mandriva 2007 (that works)? Regards, Rony. ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Console based movie player
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 01:54, Sarfaraz Kazi wrote: Hi! I am looking for a console based movie player similar to mplayer. I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) and facing problems in compiling mplayer on my system. I googled for an alternative solution but couldn't find anything useful. Any help would be greatly appreciated. You can use mplayer with DirectFB on the console. mplayer has to be compiled with DirectFB support though. Are the mplayer packages referred to by other posters on this thread compiled with DirectFB support? Of course, DirectFB is not a necessity. I've had problems with svga though. -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net pgpikdlVUl05D.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Sun Ultra SPARC T1
On 19/01/07 18:50 +0530, Vihan Pandey wrote: snip With Apple its the Aqua GUI interface(and a certain apps with come with the O.S that are closed) which comes to about 30%-40% of the system. The rest is, G N U + Python + Apache + TeX + etc etc etc After all, it is the interface which defines the Mac experience. The main complaint is with the way they support DRM to sell music on their iTunes music store and how they react when someone violates it(remember the entire sarovar.org episode). In fact they kind of set a trend(like always) of DRM in digital music and video. But Apple has never been a big FOSS supporter. They have usually been more closed than Microsoft. However i have to make one statement here. i LOVE Apple. Surprised? i'm not ashamed to admit it. Its their creativity and artistic brilliance which is UNPARALLELED. The way they take care of every single thing that is needed for a good user experience is simply beautiful and VERY inspiring. It is also probably the only company that only stole an idea(GUI from Xerox PARC) JUST once in its life - and that's it since then they have ALWAYS been original. Its hard to find such a culture in today's world. Lets see, they attempted to sue Microsoft into not shipping a GUI (one of the earliest look and feel lawsuits). Microsoft and Apple took two entirely different routes into the market. Apple is primarily a hardware vendor, and they attempt hardware lockin. Microsoft is a software vendor, and they attempted to run on as many systems as possible. They got lucky with the price of the x86 system. The PC revolution was driven by Compaq, who beat IBM in the reverse-engineering lawsuit of 1984. The PC world adopted fairly open standards while Apple was closed. This kept the price of Macs high, while the prices of PCs kept falling, and performance increasing. Today, by running on a locked down PC, Macs are essentially competing with midrange to top of the line PC hardware in laptops, but they still aren't all that competitive in desktops. Again, you can get cheaper laptops by avoiding brand names, and then Apple is suddenly not competitive. Hardware will just work, as long as it is Apple approved hardware, or USB (Intel invented USB and PCI, PCIX, Bluetooth, Sun opened the Sparc architecture and NFS amongst other things). Solaris runs on Sun hardware, Intel, and Fujitsu hardware. Apples are nice toys, but they don't even come close to Sun. As for desktops, those are being turned into thin clients in corporate environments again, so about the only place where Apple is making any headway is in tech circles, where Unix geeks are moving to Macs because they need something to run MS Office and would rather not run the even more broken Microsoft Windows. Devdas Bhagat -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] problems with installing ubuntu on an intel ggc based machine Please help.
hello all. if some one has mandriva 2007 plese contact me off the list asap. mean while I had a long discussion with rajeev our display and 3d master as many know. he provided me with the fedora core 6 dvd. he is pritty confident that fc6 would just do fine. although not on the list of intel but I would just try fc6 on rajeev's word and if insha alla! it works I will let the list know. thanks rajeev for the dvd. Krishnakant. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] is fedora suitable for server, any experienced users?
On 1/25/07, krishnakant Mane wrote: but if at all I were to setup a server, will fedora suit the server requirements? there will be only gnome installed and that too wont run by default because I am going to set the machine to init level 3. we are supposed to run a ftp server which will mostly be proftpd and also apache server with php support. mysql5 will also be installed on the server. Try Core 6. Its amazing. I've always been a Redhatter. I've found their distros ( except Core 3 ) to be very stable and bug free. FC6 is rock solid. I can vouch for it. But beware support is short lived and limited. Fedora has a short development and release cycle of almost 6 months so your distro will likely be unsupported by about a year! :( While Debian is a totally different story... so since the customer wants fedora I wont be ready to start a distro flame war as long as fedora can handle the needs of a secured stable server. Check out SELinux! It is so secure that it'll make your life a living HELL. Forget about crackers! They dont even stand a chance! hehehe... -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Core2 Duo on Linux.
Hello All, I came across this article on linux for Core2 Duo. http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/22/0415251 What does the author mean by the statement thats quoted below? Since we have a new core in this review, I decided it was prudent to pull out both 64-bit and 32-bit versions of Linux. We wanted to find out where Core 2 shows the most performance and how it did versus AMD in each mode. The table below shows the compile options for each OS and processor type. I didn't go all out and be over-aggressive here. It was important to compile the applications for each specific processor type but not be too aggressive and cause instability. What compilation has he done? Is he actually compiling the kernel or packages or does he give the specific commands at boot prompt? Could someone briefly explain the process? Regards, Rony. ___ All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] problems with installing ubuntu on an intel ggc based machine Please help.
On Friday 26 January 2007 19:31, Rony wrote: Harsh Busa wrote: does this link help u http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/linux/featu re/319373.htm Other than Mandriva 2007, noe of the other compatible distros exist, especially the Chinese ones. Excuse me? I've posted this before. Sabayon worked out of the box, even 5.1 channel sound. -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp86qHhRvEac.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Core2 Duo on Linux.
On 1/26/07, Rony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What compilation has he done? Is he actually compiling the kernel or packages or does he give the specific commands at boot prompt? Could someone briefly explain the process? The table given below the paragraph, are options set in /etc/make.conf in gentoo. And since he's using Gentoo, I guess he will be compiling the whole system from scratch. Gentoo has so much to learn but it's such fun with great documentation and a lot of people who are ready to help out. :) -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Core2 Duo on Linux.
On Saturday 27 January 2007 01:05, Rony wrote: What compilation has he done? Is he actually compiling the kernel or packages or does he give the specific commands at boot prompt? Could someone briefly explain the process? He has used Gentoo to optimise each install for the specific hardware. That's one of the advantages of Gentoo. This is something you won't ever face on a binary distro. The packages in these distros are compiled with generic flags that would work on most of the hardware. That's the difference the 386 or 586 or 686 makes in the package versions. These are the GCC flags used to optimise for a specific architecture. Consider this for example: -march=athlon64 -msse3 -O2 -pipe Notice the -msse3. SSE3 instruction set isn't available for, say 32 bit Semprons (Correct me if I'm wrong here.) It IS implemented in Sempron64 processors. So if I'm compiling some software for a Sempron64, I can use -msse3 but not for 32 bit Semprons. The generic build process of binary distros doesn't allow this flexibility, Gentoo does. The downside is, that you actually compile each and everything on a Gentoo machine. So, for example, as we speak, I'm starting a compilation cycle for KDE 3.5.6 right now, which I expect to be completed by tomorrow night. Compare that to, say Ubuntu, which would take around 10-15 minutes for installation. The point is though, that I have these packages optimised for my processor and not a generic family of processors. So if I'm using a distro, compiled without msse3 on a Sempron64, which supports SSE3, I'm losing out on the feature. Did you ever read the release notes for FC4? It said something about being compiled for Pentium 4? I suppose they used -march=pentium4 instead of something like -march=i686 (If that's valid. I'm giving just an example.), which would support P3s and all. Now coming back to the link given, check this out: Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965 -march=prescott -O2 -pipe AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 -march=athlon64 -msse3 -O2 -pipe Does that tell you anything now? Clearly, the optimisation flags are set according to the processor and the architecture used. Hope this is clear enough. I suppose you should ask people like Pradeepto and Vihan about GCC flags and all. -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net pgpJn9vfr447E.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Core2 Duo on Linux.
On Saturday 27 January 2007 02:25, Mrugesh Karnik wrote: Now coming back to the link given, check this out: Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 965 -march=prescott -O2 -pipe AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 -march=athlon64 -msse3 -O2 -pipe Does that tell you anything now? Clearly, the optimisation flags are set according to the processor and the architecture used. Quoting the article: ``Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any new optimizations for the Conroe in GCC yet. For 32-bit, I chose the Pentium M architecture as the closest match, and I added SSE2 support via a secondary compiler flag. For 64-bit, I has only one option for Intel 64-bit processors which was for a “Nocona” core.'' Hope its perfectly clear now. :) -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net pgp8kHYqCiigK.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Core2 Duo on Linux.
On 1/26/07, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting the article: ``Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any new optimizations for the Conroe in GCC yet. For 32-bit, I chose the Pentium M architecture as the closest match, and I added SSE2 support via a secondary compiler flag. For 64-bit, I has only one option for Intel 64-bit processors which was for a Nocona core.'' Hope its perfectly clear now. :) So will adding some flag for Conroe make any difference then, as and when it comes? -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Today! Creativedot Community Streaming: Jan 27 3-4pm
-- Forwarded message -- From: Vipul Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Creativedot Community Streaming event Timing: January 27, 2007 Live Streaming 3pm to 4pm. IST. Streaming Location: http://streaming.creative.linux-delhi.org:8000 Venue: SOM Foyer (near entrance to SOM), with the Creative Commons display. IIT Bombay. All are invited to participate. If you play a musical instrument, sing, write poetry, or do anything creative which can be recorded as sound, then be at the venue (SOM, IIT Bombay) 2:30pm onwards! Details below. If you can't make it to the venue in time, listen in on the URL above! -Creativedot Team http://www.creativedot.org/ Vipul Mathur wrote: Hi all, Creativedot [1] in association with linux-delhi.org, Creative Commons India [2] and Kandalaya [3] will conduct its first community streaming event at IIT Bombay on 27th January 2007. We invite you to perform anything which can be recorded in audio format. Your performance will be available live through Creativedot. This means world will be able to listen to your performance live on the Internet. So, if you can sing, recite poetry (poem should be written by you) or can play any instrument, please visit us at IIT Bombay on 27th January 2007 afternoon. Exact time and venue will be posted soon. At the launch [4] of Creative Commons India on 26th January 2007 at IIT Bombay, Creativedot will be distributing CDs of photographs and other imagery posted under a Creative Commons license at Creativedot and flickr. --Creativedot Team [1] What is Creativedot? http://www.creativedot.org, affectionately called creativedot, is a momentary, delicate experiment, that explores whether creatively-inclined people in India are willing to share their creative artworks such as photography, calligraphy, illustrations, graphics, designs, sounds, music, video clips, poetry and more, under a Creative Commons or copyleft license. [2] Creative Commons India, http://www.cc-india.org/ [3] Kandalaya, http://www.kandalaya.org/ [4] Launch of Creative Commons India, http://www.cc-india.org/?p=22 -- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Re: Linuxers Digest, Vol 45, Issue 121
C.E. Hariharan wrote Use Ubuntu 6.10 as it boots live and then gives an 'install' icon on the live desktop itself. Use your last windows partition eg. F: or E: When you come to the disk setup part, choose 'Manual Install'. Delete your last partition so that it converts into Free space. From that total free space, subtract 2 GB and create a new partition of that subtracted size. Use Ext3 or Reizerfs as your partition type (file system). Label it as a slash '/'. Convert the balance free space into a swap partition. Then let the installation proceed further. Don't touch partition 1 as it is your C: drive. I have only two partitions,C: and D: 37.27 GB each You have a lot to learn in the linux world. Don't go by what the big names say. More oft than not they are wrong. AFAIK 101 board has no problems with Ubuntu. If ever in doubt, google is your best friend. I googled ( Linux + Intel + 101 + board + problems ) and in about 2 mins I found out that 101 works well with FC4/5/6. So Ubuntu must definitely support it. Try it out and see if it works. If it doesnt then the community will surely help you out. Same story with my DG965RY board. I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he hasie TSSTCorp CDW/DVD SH-M522C I googled the same thing you did and took the kerneltrap result,the last post is depressing coz i have the same combo drive he hasie TSSTCorp CDW/DVD SH-M522C Is that Samsung? Then I would suggest you to return it ASAP. Samsung are the worst optical drives I have heard from. I have seen so many complaints from lots of users at different forums and experienced it myself too. Either the problem is with tray - it doesn't open or doesn't close properly, or with the laser - doesn't read the media. These problems are in Linux? Get something like LiteOn or maybe even Sony. PS: - I have marked OT as it seems topic has gone way too OT for the list. Well it is Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation and in India,it's supported by samsung.what's OT? Regards Easwar PS:When I wrote that I wouldn't like to experiment,I meant BOSS and not Ubuntu:-) -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM][OT]Core2Duo, Pentium D and Other hardware queries
On 1/27/07, C.E. Hariharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These problems are in Linux? No. In the Samsung drive, be it any OS doesn't matter. Though there are lucky few who escape this tragedy. Well it is Toshiba Samsung Storage Technology Corporation and in India,it's supported by samsung. Yeah that's a samsung drive. what's OT? Off Topic. This whole discussion has gone OT for the LUG list. And I checked the intel's website yesterday, the URI that was given, they have not even listed any recent distros there. There's no mention whatsoever of Ubuntu, Fedora Core, OpenSuse. I see only enterprise distributions or others which are unknown to me. So, atleast I wouldn't trust that page at all -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
