Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to port WSAEVENT and WSANETWORKEVENT to linux
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 14:04, Anant Narayanan wrote: And how does that become a standard? What we have here is our own interpretations of the word standard. If I were to make a fictitious language of my own; and if I would write documentation describing the semantics of that language; that's a standard. It may not be popular in the sense of other people adopting it; but any compiler that conforms to my semantics automatically conforms to my standard. We are talking of documentation of some technology which has substantial peer review and multiple implementations which can interoperate. You can write an arbitary set of rules to do something and over time peer review and multiple implementations may happen at which point you can call it a standard. Your initial efforts are not a standard but just a proposal or description with a bench mark implementation. OOXML essentially describes how to enclose binary blobs, while saying nothing about the blob itself, which is the center of the interoperability problem. I never said OOXML wasn't crap. I only said that .NET is a proper standard. I never said that .net is not a standard but that it is encumbered and hence not open. You cannot implement a patented software tech by reading the standard because the standard substantially describes the patented tech and would imply wilful violation. Standards bodies clearly state that encumbered standards are available on RAND terms - tech like the GSM specs - to be read as pay a fat sum for the privlege of not getting sued. And in the light of the microvell deal to be avoided like the plague. This was in response to your nobody is going to sue anybody The ECMA .NET specification, unlike OOXML, describes in detail the language itself and provides all the necessary information to create working tools. Which is why Mono was made possible in the first place. Agreed Again, .NET is an ECMA standard; complete with a reference implementation. If you consider JavaScript to be a standard, there's no reason why .NET isn't. Agreed again. Except for the patent part and Micovell deal tactitly acknowledging that patent encumberances are present in some Novell stuff. Without knowing what exactly this is your only chance is avoid unpaid Novell stuff like the plague - unless you are a great gambler or love the lawyers. There's only one proper implementation of an XHTML 1.1 based browser. It's still a standard, is it not? It's not. Not until someone writes an implementation as per the standards documentation. As far as I am concerned it still is. Because I can make web pages that comply to XHTML 1.1 and validate them with W3C's validator. Whether or not the end-user will be able to view the web pages as XHTML 1.1 intended them to be viewed is not my problem. Hope it's good for you that others view something entirely different than what u intended. -- Rgds JTD -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] How to port WSAEVENT and WSANETWORKEVENT to linux
On 06/02/07 14:04 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote: snip Again, .NET is an ECMA standard; complete with a reference implementation. If you consider JavaScript to be a standard, there's no reason why .NET isn't. .NET is a standard, but with parts covered by patents in the US. OOXML is a specification, which is not yet a standard. Devdas Bhagat -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] fedora support and reliability question.
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 17:26 +0530, jtd wrote: If u are thinking of earnings from support / AMC my suggestion would be stick to Debian. They are the only distro which have been consistent in their policies over the years. I agree. Besides, if you think over it old hardware != bad hardware. It translates into cost savings, more stable systems and you are sure about getting a mature product. So think over it. Even though I am a die hard fan of Fedora, I would still suggest to go for Debian. -- Regards, Dinesh A. Joshi -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Y! SMS
H.S.Rai wrote: People can do free SMS using Yahoo messenger on M$windows, but Y!Messenger for Linux is not giving this facility. Is there any way to do SMS to Indian Mobiles free of cost (using Yahoo or some different site) from Linux PC. When you send any SMS using any email/website program, you are giving out someone else's mobile number to a thrid party. All this gets stored in their database. Regards, Rony. ___ All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use. - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] fedora support and reliability question.
krishnakant Mane wrote: then in that case how is ubuntu server? by the way since mandriva is officially supported by intel what is its condition? debian is good but wont work on latest hardware. and I can't tell my custommers to go for old hardware just because I want to run gnulinux. some solution has to be there where I can use the latest and well supported hardware and also have an enterprise quality free operating system. For a server machine, even a low grade X or no X would do. Sound too would not be important. So a Debian distro that gives basic system readiness should do. Debian etch goes upto kernel 2.6.18. regards, Rony. ___ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Playing VCDs in Ubuntu.
Debasish Das wrote: On 2/3/07, Rony wrote: Hello All, I gave one more shot at trying to play VCDs and DVDs in Ubuntu 6.10 on my desktop. All instructions given on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats were followed but still VCDs would not be opened in Totem. A DVD would play upto the menu but the 'Play' link that comes after that on the screen would not come and the screen would simply remain blank. Why don't you try mplayer. It is working fine in my laptop(Ubuntu 6.10). A request to you to remove email addresses of the sender in your reply compositions. There's too much spam going around. I am able to play VCDs and DVDs in Ubuntu 6.10 in my PC. But my laptop cannot take Ubuntu 6.10 so it has Edubuntu 6.06. Even with Kubuntu 6.06 there were no-sound problems with VCDs. I tried many players. Now I want to get it over with and therefore request the experts to take a look at my laptop. I will bring it to their office at their convenience. Watching and following them solve the problem will be a learning experience. Regards, Rony. ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] fedora support and reliability question.
any ways the point is that can fedora have that kind of support because new versions come every now and then so can we look for support on fedora? Only community support is available. for example if I am using fedora core 6 how long can I get updates and new packages for the same? Updates for Fedora Core 6 wil be available on the official Fedora repositories till Fedora 8 Test 2 is released. After that no new updates are added. Regards, Debarshi -- After the game the king and the pawn go into the same box. -- Italian proverb -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Recommended PCMCIA wireless card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Can anybody recommend any specific brand / model of a PCMCIA wireless card that works out of the box and doesn't cost too much? I know that Atheros chipsets play well with the madwifi drivers, but I need a brand+model which I can specifically ask for at the hardware shop. Thanks in advance. Regards, BG - -- Baishampayan Ghose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ubuntu -- Linux for Human Beings http://www.ubuntu.com/ 1024D/86361B74 BB2C E244 15AD 05C5 523A 90E7 4249 3494 8636 1B74 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFyP3aQkk0lIY2G3QRAiClAKCIHyU9C1kkNrHuG2g3YSM4Q3sMHwCfYL6V TOP4JTsrEI9V/8Pp8xwAjvg= =tBCn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Y! SMS
You could probably interested to know more about http://www.yhbt.com/staticpages/index.php?page=gaimsms for GAIM. 1) According to the site, it works only on SprintPCS Phones. 2) The last released date was in 2003, which explains why it is talking about Gaim 0.64 . I am using Gaim 1.51 -- Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ Albert Einstein - Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Recommended PCMCIA wireless card
Baishampayan Ghose wrote: Can anybody recommend any specific brand / model of a PCMCIA wireless card that works out of the box and doesn't cost too much? I know that Atheros chipsets play well with the madwifi drivers, but I need a brand+model which I can specifically ask for at the hardware shop. I found out these two from some contacts, to be working fine with both Ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10, having Atheros Chipsets. 1. Cisco Aironet 802.11 a/b/g wireless card 2. NetGear WG511T 802.11 b/g wireless card -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Some Technology Observations.
On 06-Feb-07, at 11:10 PM, Debarshi Ray wrote: Add to that the confusion when someone would want to give a presentation about Free Software and Free Knowledge, which they had made on proprietary applications, on their own machines running MacOS. did you throw them out? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Y! SMS
On 2/6/07, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- H.S.Rai wrote: Is there any way to do SMS to Indian Mobiles free of cost (using Yahoo or some different site) from Linux PC. http://www.yhbt.com/staticpages/index.php?page=gaimsms It seems to be for different purpose, to get messages on my mobile. GaimSMS is a Gaim plugin which will forward all incoming IMs to a mobile phone number via SMS when you are idle. ... It also looks very old and not maintained as last release was in July 2003 http://mytoday.com/psmw/greetings.jsp seems to fit my requirement with limitation that it has no facility for address book, I have to enter mobile number again and again. -- H.S.Rai === -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] symbian OS Mobile
Can any one suggest me a Mobile phone model which works on Symbian OS ? Regards Vishal -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] symbian OS Mobile
On 06-Feb-07, at 8:07 PM, Vishal wrote: Can any one suggest me a Mobile phone model which works on Symbian OS ? nokia 6600 (i think - it also has python) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Some Technology Observations.
That was mainly because the speakers did not let us know whether they would require a computer beforehand. It was only when they started to walk towards the microphone would they let their desires be known. Add to that the confusion when someone would want to give a presentation about Free Software and Free Knowledge, which they had made on proprietary applications, on their own machines running MacOS. sigh i've generally found, that if one buying a Mac and one does not want to use Mac OS X(of which some components of the GUI(Aqua) are under non free licenses), either fry the machine and put a GNU/Linux distribution on it or don't use Aqua, install a Free GUI and the other Free app's with along with Darwin. That's the way to go. Regards, - vihan -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] symbian OS Mobile
nokia 6600 (i think - it also has python) Yeah!!! i'll remember that when i plan on geting a new phone :-) Thanks!!! Regards, - vihan -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
