Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux addiction !!!
Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) wrote: Usalibilty in FOSS is f*** word so please don't ask. Usability is also against our principles and values. However, if you do make a mistake of asking be ready for flames. Although that was within sarcasm tag, I couldn't resist. Have you heard about the Open Usability Project? Have you heard about KDE HIG? Have you heard about GNOME Usability Guidelines? Things have come a long way, if you are still stuck in the old world. A lot of FOSS projects have understood the importance on usability driven design and development, and have taken measures to have sound usability teams. KDE is one good example of it. A strong brick is the one which has been burnt hard with flame. If you can't stand flame, be a cry baby and rather make use of it as a learning experience, then may god save you. Well, this whole thread looks very much like a never ending troll. We have been through this lot of times and we know the outcomes. But people have their own freedom to waste their time, don't they!? -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Why are you using GNU/Linux?
Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) wrote: Hello FOSSers, I believe that there are many students on this list. I would like to ask them few questions about their FOSS usage and adoption. I would love to hear from you guys and gals using FOSS. I will compile the list of reasons and put it up for everyone. This should help people who conduct workshops and seminars in the colleges to create more appealing presentations for students. http://dineshah.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/why-are-you-using-gnulinux/ You can post your replies to list, personal email or comment on the blog. With regards, If I remember it correctly, GLUG BOM has this wiki http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page for coming up with any content collaboratively. If the real intentions are to help people conducting seminars and workshops, it would be better to get it done in the GLUG wiki rather than someone's wordpress hosted blog, unless and otherwise the effort is to popularize the blog ;) I hope the wiki is OPEN to create new pages and add/edit content to it :) -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] No audio on Kubuntu with Acer Aspire One
Easwar Hariharan wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Sanjay Singhvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm new to Linux and have recently purchased an Acer Aspire One and loaded Kubuntu onto it. I find that I get no audio at all. Followed instructions at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne . However, after doing all the tweaks, found that it requires Alsa 1.0.17. Tried downloading Alsa 1.0.17 and compiling it. However, not successful. Any suggestions please? I can see that Alsa 1.0.17 is available in the upcoming release 8.10 Intrepid Ibex. In fact am using that version in my system and if am not wrong, the same should be available with Kubuntu 8.10 as well, which means it should be in the Kubuntu repository for 8.10 release (which is in Beta/RC stage now). Was the document you point referring to Kubuntu 8.10 or 8.04? Sorry my connection is quite flaky that am not able to check that document myself. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Giovanni Maruzzelli, Celliax - possible meet
Forwarded from a mail to ILUG Chennai === BEGIN === I would be delighted to run sessions in LUGs, and/or short seminars, if interest arises. I'll be based in Chennai, and for sure I would like to spend some time in Auroville. Do you have any contact with the bunch of wireless, tech and art enthusiasts (sounds very nice!) there? I'm in India to get a first impression of the FOSS and ICT scene there, so I would like to move around too. If there is opportunity to meet FOSS people or groups, I'm available to come to Mumbai too (actually, I would like to :-) ). BTW, I'm almost to release two opensource channel drivers for Asterisk, one for driving gsm cellphones and one for driving the Skype client. So, I can speak or teach about the channels, about Asterisk development, or about opensource software development at large. I can also teach and speak about the business planning and evaluation of ICT and FOSS ventures, but maybe that's not so interesting to a LUG audience ;-). Following is a short bio and attached is a cv. - Giovanni Maruzzelli (born 1964) has 15+ years of experience with open source, industrial grade operations, and ICT startups (both at the investor or investee side). Industry experience includes publishing engines, open source messaging and networking, document indexing and retrieval systems, unified messaging. Giovanni primary skill is producing solutions that are reality based and business wise. A member of the worldwide open source community for over twelve years, Giovanni is the proud owner of the Mysql license n.1, and as a speaker, trainer and magazines writer he was instrumental to the introduction of Internet, Unix, Linux and open source to the Italian technical public. In the beginning of the Internet era, Giovanni was one of the founders of Italia Online, the most popular Italian portal and consumer ISP, and architect of its Internet technologies - www.iol.it Then supervisor of Internet operations and architect of the first engine for paid access to www.ilsole24ore.com, the most read financial newspaper in Italy and to its databases (migrated from mainframe). After that, he was CEO of venture capital funded Matrice, developing Telemail unified messaging and multi language phone access to email (Text To Speech), and CTO of incubator funded Open4, an open source managed applications provider. As a partner In3 fund Giovanni has often evaluated the technical and financial soundness of submitted business plans. Then he was for two years in Serbia as Internet and Telecommunication Investment Expert for World Bank - IFC. Giovanni is now consulting and is based in Milan, Italy. His email address: gmaruzz at celliax.org === END === -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Canonical Not Great Contributor
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I just learnt from a friend of mine that I should stop using Ubuntu as Canonical is not contributing to the development of GNU/Linux systems as compared to other players. He also suggested that since most of its stuff, or nothing, is upstream so we cant trust it. Also his argument was, being run by one man, who may tomorrow change his mind and stop support to Ubuntu, then what? [1] Canonical is not Ubuntu. Canonical is only a sponsoring agency for Ubuntu, which is trying to get back the money it puts by offering support and service for Ubuntu. It also sponsors for a small portion of people associated with Ubuntu. It also pays for the resources that Ubuntu community uses for the project. [2] Other than the above stated things, Ubuntu is a community run project. Decisions are taken after discussion/debate by contributors and most of them are quite public through IRC channels and mailing lists. The main decisions are taken during Ubuntu Developer Summit which happens at the beginning of every new cycle. Participants to the UDS are people who have substantial contribution to Ubuntu in terms of development. [3] If at all, Canonical decides not to support Ubuntu then am sure that a major portion of the contributing community will make an effort to create resources and run the project. Indeed it will shake us to the roots, but we will try our best not to fall. A question to your friend will be, if not Ubuntu what does he feel to be dependable enough? Any other distro or some non-GNU/Linux OS at all? Every distribution has some pros and cons, every OS has some pros and cons. At the end of the day, it's your freedom of choice to decide upon something which you like to use and support. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] [X-Post][ilugd] Serious e1000e driver issue in SLE 11 Beta 1]
[Forwarding without prejudice] +1 -- Forwarded Message -- - Forwarded by Sanjeev K Gupta/SG/eSys on 09/23/2008 10:37 AM - Novell PartnerNet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/23/2008 04:23 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Serious e1000e driver issue in SLE 11 Beta 1 Dear Partner and Beta Tester, the Intel e1000e driver on openSUSE 11.1 Beta 1 and SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 Beta 1 might have a serious issue with the potential to damage the network card in a way that it cannot be used any longer. Intel and Novell are currently working to analyze and solve the issue. For the time being: Please do NOT USE openSUSE 11.1 Beta 1 or SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 Beta 1 on systems with Intel e1000e hardware. Any other hardware, including systems with Intel e1000 (without -e) network cards, is not affected. We will keep you posted. With kind regards Your SUSE Linux Enterprise 11 Team -- Thorsten Kukuk, Project Manager/Release Manager SLES SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) --- -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Thunderbird 2 bug?
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: If somebody asks about a bug, either solve the problem, or point him to the solution, or try to replicate the problem, and if you can, file a bug - dont tell *him* to file a bug. Ummm? What's wrong is asking someone, who is facing a problem with a software, to file a bug? I thought bugs were mostly filed by people who are facing problem themselves. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Thunderbird 2 bug?
Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) wrote: H! On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Parthan SR wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: If somebody asks about a bug, either solve the problem, or point him to the solution, or try to replicate the problem, and if you can, file a bug - dont tell *him* to file a bug. Ummm? What's wrong is asking someone, who is facing a problem with a software, to file a bug? I thought bugs were mostly filed by people who are facing problem themselves. I would recommend following bug filing procedure. That should avoid any unnecessary flames. :) 1. You find an issue with a software 2. You post on LUG(s) describing your issue with software version, distribution version etc and ask on the list if anybody faces the same issue with same software 3. Someone using the same software confirm the issue. 4. Same version of software has issues on multiple distributions. 5. Original/confirmer files a bug report to upstream 6. Original reported issue is specific to a distribution and original poster files bug report downstream (with distributor) If other listers can not either confirm or deny the issue, please refrain from posting. :) Sounds reasonable process? Exactly, but with a minor additions, 3.a Either the original reporter checks the distribution's bug tracker for something similar to his issue. If he finds one, he check it out what is it's status. Might also mail the list that he found a similar bug so people can also check it out. OR someone volunteers to check the bug tracker and helps the original reporter in finding whether a bug has been already reported. 3.b If a bug is found, whoever can reproduce the bug can go confirm or/add more information to the bug. Else, whoever can reproduce the bug can help the original reporter in filing a new bug and confirming it. 4.a If the problem exists with same or later version of the software with multiple distributions, then check upstream bugs and file one if required. Additionally you can file one in your distribution as well, and link the upstream bug to this. (This helps in a fix being found in downstream and moving upstream). If problem is only with the software in a particular distribution, then file in the distribution's bug tracker for that software+version. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Thunderbird 2 bug?
Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ) wrote: Rony wrote: There is Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 on a PC and it has been upgraded to the latest apt packages. Thunderbird 2 was installed from apt packages. A gmail account was setup but it fails to authenticate the password and returns a normal wrong password error. After wasting a lot of time rechecking and suspecting the keyboard, I setup the account in Kmail and it worked fine. So there appears to be a bug in that Thunderbird package. If yes, file a bug on the distribution's bugzilla. I wouldn't request an upstream bug yet (since it doesn't seem to be reproducible on other OS or upstream tarballs) I have Thunderbird version 2.0.0.16 (20080724) and it works fine. Can you check what version of Thunderbird you are using (Help About Thunderbird should do)? In addition to what Sankarshan told, you can also check the distribution's bug tracker for a similar bug reported for the version your are using or the later versions. If so, please see if there is a response. Else, please feel free to file a bug :) -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Thunderbird 2 bug?
Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote: Hi, On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Rony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had mentioned that it is upgraded to the latest packages through apt. Fresh and piping hot. :-) Yeah so? I don't use Kubuntu so I don't know what is latest in Kubuntu repos. So you need to state the version which causes you the problem, thats a common thing required for bugs. You *need* to state the version number so that developers can narrow down the issue. A version tracker generally has a version component ( and downstream/upstream component ) Also that Kubuntu comes in two flavours by itself, Kubuntu with KDE 3.5.x and Kubuntu with KDE4. And the latest piping hot stuff out there is Kubuntu Intrepid/8.10 which is in alpha4 or alpha5 if am not wrong and hence can be expected to have bugs, which indeed needs to be reported and fixed. What is an upstream or downstream problem? I just install GNU/Linux and If you experience any problem with a software that is provided by your distribution from its repositories, you need to file a bug in the distribution's bug tracker, launchpad in the case of Kubuntu, against the correct version of the software that is giving you the problem. Unless you are dealing with something got directly from the upstream project sources, you need not go to the upstream bug tracker. If your problem indeed is something from the upstream code, then the downstream will make sure that the same gets reported in the upstream bug tracker as well. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Fwd: [Jobs] PHP Team Lead + Project Manager openings
- Forwarded Message --- Hi, We currently have several openings for PHP Team Lead positions and for Project Managers for leading open source projects. We're an open source consulting company working extensively on PHP based Content Management Systems and Frameworks (TYPO3, Drupal, Symfony, Seagull), Ruby on Rails and a bit on Django/Python. The job descriptions for these are posted at: * PHP Team Lead: http://blogs.srijan.in/2008/03/01/php-team-lead/ * Project Manager : http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7fub_vJsx_uk7OIVuIEnew Should you be interested in the openings, please do write in with your CVs and expected salary. Please mention the opening you are applying for in the email subject. Thanks, Rahul Dewan -- Web: http://www.srijan.in | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blogs.srijan.in/ CSR: http://www.srijanfoundation.org/ ___ -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Provide me with the cd of either Xubuntu-Linux or Puppy Linx.
Ashish Tripathi wrote: 1. 256 MB RAM 2. PIII Intel Processor I am looking out for Xubuntu/Puppy Linux but since my internet is very slow I cannot afford to dowbnload it. kindly help me provide with a CD of it as soon as possible. [1] Ask for an Alternate CD and go with Text Mode Installation. [2] You haven't specified where you live and how will you collect it. Please do specify them when requesting something as you might have someone right next door who can help you. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] [Fwd: [Ilugc] Ubuntu Global Bug Jam Aug 8 -10 2008]
Forwarded... Original Message Subject:[Ilugc] Ubuntu Global Bug Jam Aug 8 -10 2008 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:35:22 +0530 From: Aanjhan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ILUG-C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ILUG-C [EMAIL PROTECTED], LUG-IITM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, You must have heard on the Ubuntu Global Bug Jam by now. If not read it here NOW - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam It would be great if a few of the interested folks in Chennai can get together at some place with Internet connectivity and start squashing bugs jointly. Anybody game? If so please reply to this thread. We will get a venue (if you have a proposal/agree to host for the same, most welcome). Its not necessary that we end up being there all the three days, we can fix a convenient time and get together. In fact we have our LUG meet too this week IIRC. May be after the LUG meet we can head to some place and start squashing bugs. If nothing works out, I have wireless at my place and a big covered terrace where I can host a few people with Coffee and biscuuuts ;). Also there is a quick intro session tomorrow at #ubuntu-bugs @ irc.freenode.net from 2130 hrs IST for general questions about the Global Bug Jam. Be there!!! Lets squash bugs -- Aanjhan ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] [OT] the new blender movie is out
Hi all, Maybe we missed it in the commotion of a latest bollywood movie ;) , but still, Big Buck Bunny has been released a while ago and is available for download. http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/ Its a short-feature around 10 minutes long, but is pretty cool given the fact that it is released under a CC license. And quite obviously it was created using Blender[1]. AFAIK, the DVD set contains all .blend files and hence would be a perfect medium to showcase the capabilities of FOSS tools in Multimedia where it seems to lag behind a bit. Check out the .OGG video from the German server, others seem not to respond at the moment. -- --- With Regards, Parthan technofreak gpg 2FF01026 blog http://blog.technofreak.in -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] [OT][Job/Freelance] Need for PHP programmer for Khoj Studios
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, A friend of mine is looking for a freelance programmer who can work with an interesting project in Drupal/PHP. Interested people may contact him directly. Details regarding the project are as follows. *if not able to reach him, do not mind pinging me :) - Original Message *Developer working in PHP needed for Khoj Studios* Khoj is an international artist led initiative based out of Delhi that concentrates on cutting edge art practices and collaborating artists and organisations from Asia to build a strong platform of contemporary art practices in the region. As a part of its extended outreach and ambition to reach out to new and remotely located artists, Khoj is looking at building a strong online presence that enables artist participation for community building and extensive professional networking with other Khoj nodes in the networks. The Khoj CRECHE (Comprehensive Resource for E-Community Hosting and Expansion) project was envisioned a year ago to achieve these ambitions. In one year, it has completed the first of the three phases of implementation (www.khojworkshop.org http://www.khojworkshop.org/) using PHP based Drupal CMS. We are looking at young and motivated programmers who have experience working with Drupal or are comfortable with PHP and can work with Drupal to implement the second phase of the CRECHE project at extremely competitive market rates. The programmer can be based in or outside of Delhi and can agree to work full-time or part-time depending upon their time availability. If you are interested in the project, please get in touch with Pooja Sood (Phone: +91-11-65655874, +91-11-65655873. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Or Nishant Shah (Phone: +91-0-9740074884. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Nishant Shah Ph.D. Student, CSCS, Bangalore. Project Manager, COMAT, Bangalore. # 0-9740074884 - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [web] http://technofreak.in [blog] blog.technofreak.in [photos] photos.technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile] BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHaQNEk4vYYS/wECYRAmugAJ9W7fd4xapY/IZWquBCNervDCGvNwCeOS9r Uz7oh6FJqAeqEuxPKwvY9Vs= =w/kn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] [Job] GTK+, C programmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mitul Limbani wrote: ... and interested FOSS developers. I believe they are looking for CHEAP Indian Programmers ! the standard Indian Outsourcing Mentalset. The OP mentioned FOSS Developers, so you think they (FOSS Developers) work as CHEAP Indian Programmers ? Am afraid, it is not so :| If people can refrain from making such sarcastic comments, more people will come out of their underground hideouts and interact in a mailing list. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG3Uk8k4vYYS/wECYRAgPrAKCXhrFVjEylc+bXyz7TLkcdDILhHgCeNTmb L2nhcznmmjf7n2IprmmzK1Q= =aIy6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Anyone interested in OpenMoko Mobile Phone
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--- Parthan S R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rajeev Sharma wrote:
again top post.. (as bore of seeing again and again and again
dumb posts..ready for getting out {kicked out of this useless
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hope mr
moderator reading it.. ). changing the process is not the
Come on guys, surely you all realize that rajeev is an obvious and
deliberate troll. Why fall for such baits time and again?
and Parthan S R is just a troll feeder. Imagine arguing that a list
guideline cannot be considered a Rule. sheesh!
1. Why am I being quoted above for something which I did not say
2. I did not argue anything. I just wanted a clarification whether no
top posting is a guideline or a rule, or in other words it should be
strictly followed or just would be good if it is followed. If you want
to call me anything, its your wish.
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With Regards,
Parthan aka Technofreak
[webhome] http://technofreak.in
[irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india)
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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Anyone interested in OpenMoko Mobile Phone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 11-Aug-07, at 8:59 AM, Parthan S R wrote: Its not a rule that you should not top post it *is* a rule Clarification sought : AFAIK, no top-posting is in the mailing list guidelines/etiquettes (http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List_Etiquettes). Is guidelines and etiquettes == rules ? If so, what is the counter measure if they are not followed ? - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGvT0Pk4vYYS/wECYRAiTAAJ0ZtrHwYzmejMptXBxSsXTyruDs7wCglhj3 UpbSNYzZNt4KZP4my5m+wl4= =ndXx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] FOSS.IN
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mukesh Yadav wrote: HI Guys i'm Mukesh from Mumbai i just heard about the FOSS event... i'm very keen to participate in the event can any any one please tell me how to be a volunteer in the event? Join the foss.in mailing list and ask them ;) - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGt/Izk4vYYS/wECYRAtVyAKCONQ0d8h8mriXaucd4WFR+Dg1r9wCeKHt4 mWJxG9OTLIJPGgI1H8bdLPw= =SrWe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Sify Port 22 blocked?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote: Do you have a freeshell.in account? Can you please try telneting to port 22 on freeshell.in or any server that runs a ssh server and tell me what happens? Am able to ssh at my server to port 22 $ ssh -p 22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux argo 2.6.18-4-vserver-686 #1 SMP Thu May 10 01:37:59 UTC 2007 i686 The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Thu Jul 12 12:56:01 2007 from 59.92.79.136 - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGlj8Qk4vYYS/wECYRAhgAAJ4ixbS7DKNPPyirLS+1Z2F+bmnPzACdFgDK A1fA5s1DGG+RPteJ409+2PY= =1Zm4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: [OT] Sify Port 22 blocked?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pradeepto Bhattacharya wrote: Dude, if you are in or near Mumbai/Navi Mumbai and have not called me yet, I am taking serious offence ;). :P Thanks though :). I think only BOM users are facing this problem. He he. May be BOM-Sify users. Let me try to find some MAA-Sify user and ask him to check. :) - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [webhome] http://technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGlkmLk4vYYS/wECYRAgujAJ0YaBCTlZCxGMMCxGiXdbdeIVLFHwCcD5Nt 1sWZMIzBCTG0Td9nYRVMWm8= =lUqP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Linux Shell Scripting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 neelam wrote: hi, Can anyone give me sme pdf / link of Linux shell scripting tutorial ? I need a simple , illustrative one not much advanced guide of Linux Shell scripting.I googled on it but was confused for which to refer ... Isn't this good enough ? http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ - -- With Regards - --- Parthan aka Technofreak [weblog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [flickr] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGeQvsk4vYYS/wECYRAjnaAJ40me1b9XHlJaiPhp15fyXY6+yiUwCfX9Cj jde1FIlEigPlyaFywX5BsGU= =EZlz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Hi Jayshree
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 abhishek wrote: On Saturday 26 May 2007 17:35, jayshree dete wrote: Hi ABHI, I'am fine. how are you? how is your study going on? I'am doing a job in computer institute. Actually I didn't know your e-mail id I forgot to get it from Sachin. keep in touch. Take care. Your Friend, JAYSHREE Hey... nice to see your reply... I am very much fine... and studies are going great too... afterall it's all about computers naa... :-) So you are a teacher now... great... wonderful job. Keep teaching good. Bye! and keep mailing too... Ahem.. I take extreme pleasure in reminding you that this is a *GNU/Linux User Group Mailing List* :) - -- With Regards - --- Parthan aka Technofreak [weblog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [flickr] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak [irc] techno_freak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGWuUyk4vYYS/wECYRAuy0AKCgN86NASPYSXGYonWM+qbZUYYF6ACeKmh4 G9K+gLzhcjgLK8WEjpoeMos= =DPkS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] GSoC/KDE-2007 and our lug member
Rony wrote: Anant Narayanan wrote: Not just a few, I am proud to say that we have about 60 Indian students in GSoC this year; including 3 from my college. I sincerely hope that atleast 30 of these students will stick around to become permanent contributors to their respective projects. Just curious to know, will the GSoC contributed code be GPLed and available to the public? From Google Summer of Code FAQs - http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60328topic=10728 quote What licenses do I have choose from? That depends on your mentoring organization. All code created by student participants must be released under an Open Source Initiative approved license. It's also extremely likely that your mentoring organization will have a preferred license(s) and that you will need to release your code under the license(s) chosen by that organization. /quote -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan [Blog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [Album] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] GSoC/KDE-2007 and our lug member
Baishampayan Ghose wrote: Some-IRC-Junkie-From-A-Village (BBC Research), etc. LOL.. for those who still wonder whose that, its him! its him! its him! ;) http://code.google.com/soc/bbc/appinfo.html?csaid=2C0F3F5F495389D2 -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan [Blog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [Album] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Mumbai cyber cafe license requirement makes Microsoft OS mandatory
Ok buddies, have been following this thread for sometime and too much have been discussed on both the sides of the coin. Enough of hitting one another, though some interesting alternatives got suggested. But, will these solutions offered match to reality ? The ideal reply to the problem is, adopt a couple of browsing centers whose owner are willing to make a try with FOSS solutions and make a pilot attempt with them Try implementing some of the solutions offered all along this thread, but make sure that the owner of the browsing center doesn't get a blow over his face. If things seem to be getting bad, change back to old solutions and rethink. Else, if people seem to be getting used to FOSS solutions, then get a feedback from them on what kinda improvements they are looking for and try to find solutions. Ask the browsing center owner to interact with his routine clients who may mind helping him to try things out, like he can ask some of them to sit on GNU/Linux systems, use FOSS tools and give a feedback on their experience. Based on such feedbacks we can decide further. There is no use in hitting a 100 post long thread but still not putting something into trial and checking out whether it works or not. Just words doesn't change things, they need to be accompanied with actions. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan [Blog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [Album] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] help needed for making hdfcsec.com work on firefox/opera
bombay news wrote: Has anyone on this list traded on hdfcsec.com using firefox? If so what kind of tweaking is required to make firefox operational for this site. I am not sure about hdfcsec.com, I did not check, but I have been using hdfcbank.com and netbanking facility for almost a year now. I have had no problem in accessing with FireFox. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan [Blog] http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com [Album] http://flickr.com/photos/techno_freak/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] [Fwd: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Freedel 2007]
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[ILUG-BOM] [Fwd: [ilugd] Algothythm'07 - ...the rhythm of technogeeks...]
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Re: [ILUG-BOM] Learning Language
Sir Stupid wrote: I personally do not feel that 2-months time is sufficient for those two languages. Also, i keep reading about 'RUBY' 'Python' and i gather that RUBY is much easy to learn for beginner like me. Python will be my suggestion. People without prior experience to programming languages like C can learn it in a fly without much confusion about too much of internal stuffs. Read [1] which is a best way to start learning to program if you haven't done so. For further reading/understanding/learning check out [2] and [3] When you feel comfortable check [4] and try it out using Python. So, any experts out there can please point me to any institute which offers courses in RUBY / Python ? Is there any pre-requisite for learning those languages (like familiarity with syntax of C or any other language for that matter) ?? Yes, Pre-requisite is 'Interest to sit, read, do stuffs and learn' Please note that i have already been to Eric Raymond's site and have read his opinion about programming. Learn something which your heart says you want to. Do not learn something because your friend did and got a job, or because some X Y Z suggested unless you are very similar to that X Y Z in your interests and capabilities. This doesn't mean do not follow or listen to what other's suggest, but do what you think interests you. [1] http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/ [2] http://www.diveintopython.org/ [3] http://www.python.org/doc/ [4] http://projecteuler.net/ -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] k3b doesn't start fully
Aparna Appaiah wrote: Dear list, I use Debian Sarge and I have just got a Samsung DVD drive with a CD writer. I've installed k3b, but I am facing problems in opening it. It starts loading, but stops in between and has to be terminated. What could be wrong?? Check this one - http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com/2006/12/28/k3b-how-to-write-cds/ Am not sure whether you are meaning that the k3b application itself is closing down (or crashing down, rather). What vihan said is also true. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
[ILUG-BOM] Invitation to FOSS Meet @ NITC 2007
Hi, Another chance for a get together for FOSS Community at National Institute of Technology, Calicut, Kerala. National Institute of Technology, Calicut will be hosting a three-day conference, pertaining to Free and Open Source Software, namely FOSS Meet @ NITC 2007, on 2nd, 3rd and 4th of March 2007 with theme We Engineer FOSS ! . The Meet will consist of Talks, BoFs, Workshops, Interactive sessions and Competitions from Core areas such dive into Kernel hacking, designing and creation of tools, softwares... using FOSS. The Honourable Chief Minister of Kerala Shri V S Achuthanandan, promoter of FOSS in Government of Kerala will be the chief guest for the meet. For more details and updates visit the foss meet website at http://www.foss.nitc.ac.in and wiki at http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Calicut/NIT/FOSS_Meet/07 This meet is organized by the GNU/Linux Users Group Calicut(GLUGC) in association with Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Student Branch NIT Calicut [IEEE], Computer Society of India, Calicut Chapter [CSI], Computer Science and Engineering Association [CSEA] and all the volunteers from various walks of life. We invite all the enthusiasts to participate in one the Kerala's Biggest FOSS Meets. NOTE :: Participants and Volunteers are required to register online at the foss meet website Looking forward to your support and participation. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] ubuntu vs knoppix
Satish Alwani wrote: And if so which would be a more debian /apt way to go. And also have a nice clear interface to deal with out of the box, not to mention the support and ease of use. So which distro would you guys suggest and between those 2 and if you have a specific reason why, would be nice so i can tell him. Asking 'Ubuntu Vs Knoppix' from the end user perspective is like asking 'Veg. Biriyani vs Veg. (Fried) Rice'. The answer is 'Taste both of them and let you decide which you like it'. If you ask a Debian guy, think he will say Knoppix is more Debianic than Ubuntu (may be the otherwise too). But of you interested on your friend to really feel that Linux desktops are much better than what he had been using, especially when your friend has some latest or weird configuration of hardware, then first try Ubuntu and then Knoppix. But, try *both*. Then, its upto him to decide which one he likes *more*. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Recommended PCMCIA wireless card
Baishampayan Ghose wrote: Can anybody recommend any specific brand / model of a PCMCIA wireless card that works out of the box and doesn't cost too much? I know that Atheros chipsets play well with the madwifi drivers, but I need a brand+model which I can specifically ask for at the hardware shop. I found out these two from some contacts, to be working fine with both Ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10, having Atheros Chipsets. 1. Cisco Aironet 802.11 a/b/g wireless card 2. NetGear WG511T 802.11 b/g wireless card -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows
Dinesh Joshi wrote: While I was in school I bought a book called as Graphics Programming Solutions. Nice book but entirely in assembly. I couldn't even find the BMP file format back then!! :P Will look at PCPGE :) When I was in college, I bought 'Computer Graphics C Version' to help me out with doing graphics with C (using graphics,h IIRC) for my final year project which involved showing simulation results with C graphics. This book was too high leveled that I found no use of it. But, that book had a good explanation of how graphic programming is done, the basics of it and some real time examples (though it did not satisfy my requirements at that stage) -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows
Varadarajan V wrote: I have been a silent observer of this list for the past 1-2 years. A lot are, so no problem in that :) Unfortunately, for me I learnt about this long after I went for the microsoft certification which helped me to get a job. I work as a windows system admin (3 years) for living. Nothing wrong in it, a lot of people here and in every LUG had/are working in Microsoft environments as well. personally I hate microsoft's way of working. I am not sure what you mean but just to let you know if you did not, *We*, i.e. the FOSS community, are not people who *hate* M$ or any other organization/corporate for that matter. We are admirers/followers of the Freedom Software and its ideas. Although our ideas/principles/way of life are quite contrasting and often opposing to the proprietary software, there is nothing called *hatred*. Its just that we do no believe/interested in proprietary software ideas and we live with our own and as rather a bigger, successful, better community. Though pro-windoze sentiments gets flamed here, we do not preach anti-windows sentiments in our community. To work in windows I need to keep myself trained in windows and for that i have to use windows. There are a lot of people who use Windows in their day-to-day life, along with GNU/Linux and if you are using a *legal* copy of Windows its not a *sin*. I am sure I would be considered as a newbie (I am one) in the linux world and I see jobs are mostly for the experienced in the linux administration. Yes, in FOSS world only skill level matters, i.e. how much you know and can do, but opportunity will be provided to learn and excel. And for that matter, we are all n00bs too, for every thing we know there are atleast a dozen things to learn more :) What should I do to make the switch? I need your suggestions. I wish to quit windows..now Its not a one hour transformation from a way different environment into GNU/Linux. First try to get one/some distributions like Ubuntu/Mandrake/Fedora Core and try installing them. Then start using them, may be at evening+night at home, for your general browsing, mail checking, song hearing activities.. get used to it. Interact with us and know what we *do*. And it goes on... there is no concrete way of getting into GNU/Linux, experience is the only way. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
On 1/12/07, Sachin G Nambiar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am not a subscriber to FOSS philosophy in whole. I like some parts, but not others. I dont like the idea of collectivism where everyone shares whatever they have made with everyone else. Sure it's your right if you want to, but don't disparage me if i dont want to. :). LOL! So nice of you and hats off to your attitude! Nobody says you shouldn't keep things to yourself and not share, but for such a great attitude FOSS is not your base and we are not your brethren. Here the rule is simple, you get the freedom if you are ready to give the same to others, same as in 100%. If not... just stay away! If you are not a subscriber to FOSS philosophy then why talk about it and the freedom what we all think as our life-breath. You are talking to a community which thrives for Freedom. Please don't insult our passion with such comments. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
Sachin G Nambiar wrote: My apologies for ruffling feathers which i evidently have! We disagree on what freedom is here, my point i reiterate, i like the idea of opening up source to the end user because it's the end users right if he has paid for it. But it's also the givers right to restrict me from distributing it. If he says i can i will, but i wont hold a grudge against someone whom i have paid for his software if he does not want me to distribute. Simple! You have to understand one thing. If you want to go the FOSS way, you can't be considering software as a *whole* product. Your point is valid considering the situation where you sell copies of your software and get money for each copy of them. But, whats in practice in FOSS arena is you give the software as 'free' but you charge for support and service. Its based on what kind of software you make that this model may suit you or not. if it suits you, you can follow this business model. If you want to sell the software, just keep selling it and make money, then you have to rather embrace proprietary model than FOSS model for your business. It very much depends upon what kind of software you make, where it is deployed, what are the alternatives and many more factors which determine how you can make *some* money with the above said business model. Its simple, if you can embrace our business model you stay in our pack. Else, you can use FOSS tools and make software which doesn't give the users the 'freedom to share and distribute', but you can not still call it FOSS software, because it has denied the important point of the 4 freedoms a Free software offers its user. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit
Sachin G Nambiar wrote: I understand that if the license allows it it's fine,but my contention is it's still free software even if it's not freely distributable, Once you prevent the 'freedom to freely distribute', the existence of the software as free software ends. because i allow you (as a maker) to use it in anyway you wish to change it in anyway you wish and but don't give it away for free (as in beer) just because i allow you to do anything with it for your own use. 'Free' in free software doesn't mind about whether a person gives it free of charge or gets some cents, it speaks about the freedom associated with a software. Especially the following freedoms, 1. Freedom to use the software wherever you want, how many hardwares you want and how ever you want. 2. Freedom to study and modify the source code of the software. 3. Freedom to copy and distribute the software. 4. Freedom to distribute the modified software. When you kill any of these freedoms, you can not call it as Free(dom) Software then. In FOSS world, you can't let alone survive by selling one software as in proprietary world, rather you have to provide support and service to make 'some' money. If your software is so good and critical to a user, he most probably wont give it to others and loose some lead in the competition. Even if he does give to a few, its your software being used by more people and thats an advantage to you. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Conversion to GNU/Linux
Debarshi Ray wrote: Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: Krishna Pagadala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fsf-friends] Help needed in Chennai To: fsf-friends@mm.gnu.org.in Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi All, One of the non-profits in Chennai that I work with wants to convert 5 computers from Windows to GNU/Linux can somebody help them? Helping will involve installing and configure a GNU/Linux system. I think that they will need one CD of TheOpenCD http://www.theopencd.org/download I am suggesting that they go with Kubuntu, does anybody have install and live CD for Kubuntu? Debarshi, Please forward that person to ChennaiLUG mailing list in future. I am CC'ing this mail to him anyways. To the OP, 1. Please mail the Chennai LUG Mailing List if you want to help from Chennai. The mail id is -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] and for more, please visit http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc 2. I have Kubuntu with me, Kubuntu 6.06 comes as a single CD which is Live/Install. But, I do not have an alternate CD (if you are looking for it). If those who need Kubuntu CD can bring me an empty CD, I can burn you them a copy of it. You can reach me at NRCFOSS, AU-KBC Research Center, MIT campus of Anna University, Chrompet, Chennai-44 between 8 am to 3 pm. Please call me and confirm before coming. Even if am not there, some one in NRCFOSS can burn you a kubuntu CD. 3. For help regarding Installation of Kubuntu, please mail the Chennai LUG mailing list. Someone in the list might be able to turn up and help you, if not me. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] A Linux Brochure
Hello all, An alternate brochure has been added to the wiki, which doesn't speak much technically but is addressed the way we speak to people when talking about Linux and FOSS. http://db.ilug-bom.org.in/wiki/index.php/Linux_Brochure_Alternate#Comments Mrugesh's alternate brochure, which he had posted up in his blog ( http://floyd-n-milan.blogspot.com/2006/12/linux-brochure-short-version.html ), has been added to this. I have also added my own words in the comment portion of this. I hope more people can add their thoughts, especially some one about BSD, in a similar tone as ours. This is not any thing we propose against the original brochure, but another alternate version, which is more like how we talk to people. Thats all! We welcome all comments regarding the same and also some more additional points which we might have missed. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] how to uninstall kubuntu
Vivek R wrote: i have a dual boot wth kubuntu/win 98 on my system. both are on separate hard disks.in kubuntu it shows all the hard disks(i.e, drives used by windows as well) but in windows it does not show me the kubuntu installed drives. now i want to uninstall kubuntu, how do i do that? had the drives been visible in windows which is definitely a drawback, i wldve formatted the kubuntu harddisk, but since it does not show me the drives, how do i uninstall kubuntu ? 1. If you are removing Kubuntu just because you are not able to view it in windows, then reconsider your decision as they are tools like one being already pointed out. 2. If otherwise, then you can download the image of GParted live and burn it. Boot it as you will boot a Live CD, and delete your existing partitions/reformat it to NTFS or whatever partition you want to use. 3. The same point2 can be done using a Kubuntu Live CD, by using the QParted which you will find in the Menu (Utilities or System Tools), which can also help you in deleting the Kubuntu partitions. Personally, I feel Kubuntu is more preferable/usable than Windows 98 (even if you have a legal copy of it). -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Linux expert with a monitoring background required.
Debarshi Ray wrote: Reminds me of GNU Emacs. The same logic applies to it, after all it does many more things than OpenOffice.org. Many 'savvy' users do have a liking for it. Do you think it is 'good enough'? What wrong did emacs do ? It is true that it can do many thing, but it doesnt necessarily mean that it needs to have anything. You can have things which you use in emacs and dont have those which yo do not use. Emacs is highly customizable to suit your needs. Also that emacs is not aimed at those who just want to use it as another notepad. -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] problem with pyQt
Thought of adding my few cents... * I had Qt4 and python-qt4 installed in my laptop, along with qt3-designer and qt3-assistant. Am also a n00b to PyQt and Qt, just started things after foss.in 2006. As per Pradeepto's advice I am working on the Qt tutorials in the qt-assistant, where I try to write the same code in PyQt as am a bit familiar with Python. It happened that Pradeepto looked into one of my codes and told me that I was using qt3 and pyqt3, and asked me to change to qt4 and pyqt4. The thing was, I was just working on the examples for the assistant which corresponded to Qt3. And hence i was using import qt, and it worked fine for me. I have python-qt4 installed. Looking at the code, Pradeepto asked me to get the source and build qt4, as qt4-assistant wasn't there in the Ubuntu repos. So, yesterday I did a source build of Qt4. * The problem I face now is, I have built the qt4 in my home directory. First, i ran make install, which created /usr/local/Trolltech/Qt4. When i tried to run assistant or designer for above path (./bin), the fonts weren't rendered properly, rather they were jagged. Then i checked the same from the place where i had built qt4, which rendered the fonts properly but the links were showing errors. So, I removed the /usr/local/Trolltech dir and added a symlink for the qt4/docs which the assistant was looking for, in /usr/share/doc/qt4 (something like that). Now, am able to get assistant and designer fine. But, now if i add/set the path where i built qt4, to $PATH, $QTDIR and $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and again run assistant or designer, i get jaggered fonts in them. I doubt that when i run it from the place where i built it, which is a folder within my HOME, then the fonts get rendered properly. But, if i set the PATHs as stated above and try to run it, then the fonts are disfigured. Is this anyway concerned with the locale settings ? Where am I going wrong ? Any idea ? -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] changing boot.ini
BombayNews wrote: How does one change the boot.ini on a computer? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/289022 The problem is this: The machine had Windows XP running originally with Ubuntu Dapper Drake running on a partition. So a user has to choose the OS from the Grub menu. Now after some boot files in XP got corrupted, the computer refused to boot. The technician did a back-up installation of XP and now the machine works okay GRUB, Ubuntu and all. According to the engineer this is a usual problem with XP. He has advised editing boot.ini to make Linux the default OS but he warned that it can be done only once. Also that if Linux is made default Windows XP cannot be opened, etc. Form the above manial, boot.ini is a hidden, read only file. But I wonder why you want to alter boot.ini. Grub can very well help you in booting up other OS, but if the other OS gets corrupted then its not GRUB's fault. I don't understand why you need to alter boot.ini at all. If you want to still, check this: http://home.ubalt.edu/abento/linux/redhat-install/dualbootNT.html So how does one configure boot.ini so that the computer begins working even with the XP files corrupted, etc. The person who owns the computer wants both Windows XP and Linux on one machine for the near future. Maybe make GRUB run on Ubuntu OS instead of Windows XP at present. GRUB, when installed on to the MBR can boot both your WinXP and Ubuntu. Infact when installing Ubuntu, it will auto-detect the other OS and provide a appropriate entry in GRUB menu. But, you can not use GRUB to directly boot windows. You can do the same using chainloader, check this out: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#chainloader Some more links for your reading, regarding dual boot with winxp [1] and an article on GRUB [2] [1]http://home.ubalt.edu/abento/linux/redhat-install/dualbootNT.html [2]http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622 Pardon if I sound like verbally challenged No problem, without asking nobody can learn better! -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
Re: [ILUG-BOM] ReiserFS author to give plea on wife's murder
Mrugesh Karnik wrote: People only have to know if the decision affects reiserfs development. People do not have anything to do with this otherwise. It is not peoples' place to pass judgements in public over someone they're not remotely concerned with otherwise. ++1, Whatever it is, whom ever it is, IMHO their public life should not be a matter of discussion, until and unless the same has some effect on the subjects of our concern. Surely, a developer being sent to jail or sentences will affect the project, but the reaction should be rather on how the project is taken further in the future than about the corresponding developer. Just my thoughts! -- With Regards Parthan (TechnoFreak) . A Proud GNU/Linux User and Ubuntero .0. ..0 [Web] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Parthan 000 [Blog]http://technofreakatchennai.wordpress.com -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
