[WSG] Standalone IE7
Can anyone recommend the best place to get the latest standalone IE7? I've downloaded it from Evolt and a few other places and it just seems to crash after a couple of clicks. Would appreciate your help. Paul ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
I use the one found here: http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standalone On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:43:00 +1000, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend the best place to get the latest standalone IE7? I've downloaded it from Evolt and a few other places and it just seems to crash after a couple of clicks. Would appreciate your help. Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
Hi all, anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? Would speed things up instead of having to do them one at a time. Another bonus would be one that accepts password information on protected sites. Cheers Paul ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
RE: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
CSE HTML Validator Pro. www.htmlvalidator.com -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:17 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages Hi all, anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? Would speed things up instead of having to do them one at a time. Another bonus would be one that accepts password information on protected sites. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? http://htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ Another bonus would be one that accepts password information on protected sites. If you need some sort of private use, you might try to compile W3C Validator from source and suit it to your needs. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
-Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Dorward Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:36 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:27:19AM +0200, Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG wrote: CSE HTML Validator Pro. ... isn't a validator. Roberto Scano: Are u sure? http://www.htmlvalidator.com/htmlval/v80/docs/index.html?validate_to_w3c_sta ndards.htm *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? I use 'A Real Validator' (http://arealvalidator.com/) and local installations (inside our corporate firewall) of the W3C's validator and the WDG HTML Validator. Regards, Sean. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
The WDG validator can work recursively: http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ I was going to suggest the WDG as well. The online version's limit is 100 pages I think. -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:53:31AM +0200, Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG wrote: Are u sure? http://www.htmlvalidator.com/htmlval/v80/docs/index.html?validate_to_w3c_sta ndards.htm Looks like they've built a validator in to it since I last looked ... but it also looks like it doesn't run by default. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? Would speed things up instead of having to do them one at a time. Another bonus would be one that accepts password information on protected sites. Cheers Paul http://nikitathespider.com/ -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] How do I set a css-value for Safari alone?
Olá! morten fjellman wrote: Hi list, I need to set a few values in my stylesheet that only Safari should read. I've read the article on Gunlaug.no http://Gunlaug.no (http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_8_1.html http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_8_1.html) but I don't quite get it. Can someone explain to me how to use his code to set a value for Safari only on an input field? You can use this hack: http://www.ibloomstudios.com/article1/ Roberto -- Roberto Gorjão freelance designer and web designer personal site: www.castelosnoar.com PORTUGAL / BRAGA / PÓVOA DE LANHOSO *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Roberto Gorjão wrote: http://castelosnoar.com/cna_blog/?p=38lp_lang_view=en An alternative would be to make a backup image of your main hard disk, just in case something goes wrong, and install IE7 over IE6 and have this one running as a standalone instead. I can't recommend Microsofts Virtual PC enough. If you have enough RAM (768mb+), it works like a charm. Use wisely in combination with the undo-disk thing, which allows you to boot into a brand new machine everytime you start up. I like. Regards, - Rahul. -- Rahul Gonsalves (Personal) w: www.rahulgonsalves.com e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Rahul, As it was said before (I don't remember if it was in this list), although Virtual PC is free now, OSs for it aren't. Besides RAM you also need quite a lot of disk space, if you want to have several versions of IE working as they should, each in his own Virtual PC instance. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Roberto --- Rahul Gonsalves wrote: I can't recommend Microsofts Virtual PC enough. If you have enough RAM (768mb+), it works like a charm. Use wisely in combination with the undo-disk thing, which allows you to boot into a brand new machine everytime you start up. I like. Regards, - Rahul. -- Roberto Gorjão freelance designer and web designer personal site: www.castelosnoar.com PORTUGAL / BRAGA / PÓVOA DE LANHOSO *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] How do I set a css-value for Safari alone?
Title: Re: [WSG] How do I set a css-value for Safari alone? On 9/25/06 6:49 AM, morten fjellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll use the hash hack for now Can this be escaped? I am guessing then that this should be at the bottom of a sheet because all styles after the hash will be ignored too? -- Tom Livingston | Senior Multimedia Artist | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
As it was said before (I don't remember if it was in this list), although Virtual PC is free now, OSs for it aren't. Besides RAM you also need quite a lot of disk space, if you want to have several versions of IE working as they should, each in his own Virtual PC instance. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Assuming most web developers on Windows are using XP Pro, you can have as many XP Pro VPCs as you want without requiring additional licenses. One additional OS, say Win2K, would serve to run as a VPC for IE5.x. A professional web developer would also tend to have a modern computer, which would tend to have at least 1GB RAM and a large hard drive. We're talking tools of the trade, as it were. The RAM used by VPC is only used when you are running the VPC. We use VPC only to run beta software. Our offices are set up with dedicated machines to run testing browsers in environments similar to what real users would be doing. That is, we run IE5.0 and IE5.5 on Windows 98SE and Win2K machines, respectively. Actually, the hardest browser to test, in terms of infrastructure, is Safari. Since Safari updates are OS dependent, our offices run 3 Macs... 1 Jaguar, 1 Panther, and 1 Tiger. This is a far bigger problem than IE ever was :-) That said, for a young, a new, a hobby developer, or someone with a very limited budget, standalone IE might be the only option. If that;s the case, I would urge a careful deployment, along with the attendant registry hacks to fix version identification issues. But I'd also consider at least one additional testing machine, as an industry requirement with the same priorities as a young business manager needing to invest in a couple of nice suits :-) -- Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
Hi Phillip. I did try out your Nikita site last week, which is what prompted me to seek out a site where I can get all my pages done at once. I thought the service was great, I would say the two drawbacks were the password thing and the wait for my results. I guess I generally want to get instant results. I am sure these will all be fixed with the full release, I'll be sure to check it out again then. Cheers,Paul - Original Message - From: Nikita The Spider To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages On 9/25/06, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? Would speed things up instead of having to do them one at a time. Another bonus would be one that accepts password information on protected sites.Hi Paul,I've written a validating spider that does just that. It can validateyour entire site or just a portion of it, does link checking along theway and at the end presents you with XML and HTML reports that you canview online or offline. It does *not* do password protected sites. Irealize the value of that and I'd like to add that feature at somepoint.Right now it is a free service because it is in alpha test. EventuallyI'll charge money for it and then I seek nothing less than worlddomination. =)Enjoy!-- Philiphttp://NikitaTheSpider.com/Whole-site HTML validation, link checking and more***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] How do I set a css-value for Safari alone?
Morten,
As much as I can see, your problem is due to the fact that you've sized
your input field by the html size attribute: input type=text
size=38 name=text id=input_tv2_marked
I see no CSS rules for this input field. If you do something as follows,
your problem will be most probably solved without the need for any hack:
#input_tv2_marked { width: 170px; margin:5px;}
HTH.
Roberto
morten fjellman wrote:
Hi list,
I need to set a few values in my stylesheet that only Safari should
read. I've read the article on Gunlaug.no http://Gunlaug.no
(http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_8_1.html
http://www.gunlaug.no/homesite/main_8_1.html) but I don't quite get
it. Can someone explain to me how to use his code to set a value for
Safari only on an input field? Or if no-one knows, why does Safari
render my input-fields like it does (way too long).
Here's a screenshot of www.nettavisen.no http://www.nettavisen.no:
http://www.danvine.com/icapture/tmpss/10290.png which shows the
problem (a lot of ads are not in the screenshot, hence a lot of white
spaces).
Also, have anyone encountered any problems with this approach?
Regards
Morten
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Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
Yes Lachlan, I seem to be having the same problem. Not sure why, it could be cause I have several other Browsers open at the same time, however all my other standalones work together. Maybe it's got to do with the version of XP I am running? - Original Message - From: Lachlan Hunt To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7 Patrick Lauke wrote: I've had good results with this http://tredosoft.com/IE7_standaloneI had terrible results with that. I installed it a few days ago and every time I tried to launch it, my computer froze up. There could be something stuffed up on my computer, it's been a while since I've cleaned it, but I haven't any serious problems like that with other programs.-- Lachlan Hunthttp://lachy.id.au/***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
Thanks to everyone for your replies. I have our tech manager on the case here to sort out the W3C one locally, in the meantime I will use the WDG one, which seems to work fine, except on password protected sites. Cheers,Paul ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] How do I set a css-value for Safari alone?
As much as I can see, your problem is due to the fact that you've sizedyour input field by the html size attribute: input type=text
size=38 name=text id=input_tv2_marked
I see no CSS rules for this input field. If you do something as follows,your problem will be most probably solved without the need for any hack:
#input_tv2_marked { width: 170px; margin:5px;}Yes, I just figured that out myself just now. Thanks, though :)
The need for a safari hack is still present as the ul and ol-lists are too compact. I'll have another look to be sure I can't figure it out without a hack, but I'm a it blind to the whole page after writing so much css.
regardsMorten
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Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
The WDG validator can work recursively: http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ ... although I think it has a depth limit (you could install a local copy and remove that limit though. My little Problem with it, is that it moans about the XHTML DTD: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd, line 237, character 28: omitted tag minimization parameter can be omitted only if OMITTAG NO is specified on the SGML declaration I can't turn of that error, and XHTML neither. So in the end: The maximum number of errors was reached. Further errors in the document have not been reported. I can't say if the service is good, and if my page has errors. Any idea how to fix that? Thanks Niels *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:54:16AM -0600, Niels Fr?hling wrote: The WDG validator can work recursively: http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ My little Problem with it, is that it moans about the XHTML DTD: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd, line 237, character 28: omitted tag minimization parameter can be omitted only if OMITTAG NO is specified on the SGML declaration How odd, if I point it at my sole remaining XHTML document[1], doesn't produce that error: http://htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdorward.me.uk%2Fcontact%2Fmail.phpwarnings=yes [1] Its a dynamically generated page and I haven't gotten around to rewriting it in HTML 4.01 yet -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? Would speed things up instead of having to do them one at a time. Another bonus would be one that accepts password information on protected sites. Cheers Paul Well, Dreamweaver has built-in validation, as well as accessibility testing. It has a Validate just this page as well as a Validate Entire Local Site - caveats are that this method only really works if you're doing static development. Regards, - Rahul. -- Rahul Gonsalves (Personal) w: www.rahulgonsalves.com e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Valid CSS please - ??
Hi All,
Back from holiday in Portugal - yes thank you, wonderful.
Anyway - is there a way of adding the 3 necessary filters below to give
my div an 'opaque' background without invalidating my CSS? I'd like a
hack free method if possible but if not, - all comments very welcome.
Thanks,
Max.
#textbox {
background-color: #FF;
text-align: right;
border: 1px solid #accbee;
padding: 0px;
filter: Alpha(opacity=80);
-moz-opacity:.80;
opacity: 0.80;
}
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Re: [WSG] Valid CSS please - ??
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 04:12:22PM +0100, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Anyway - is there a way of adding the 3 necessary filters below to give my div an 'opaque' background without invalidating my CSS? If you use non-standard properties, then your CSS can't be valid. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standalone IE7
hello,this is my 1st post here, hope i can help you.i run on ubuntu linux and for web development i use several VMware virtual machines. you can download vmware server for free ( http://www.vmware.com/download/server/) and create several windows xp (or whatever you prefer). you can install vmware server both on a Linux machine or windows.my host system has 1GB of DDR2 running a 3Ghz P4. i give each virtual machine only 256 MB and for testing and some basic development/editing work it's enough, the system works smooth. if you have more RAM the better as you will be able to allow your virtual machine to use more. i only have one virtual machine started at a time due to lack of RAM.best regards,-- Romeo-Adrian Cioaba Phone: +40722686751email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]DisclaimerThe information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee.Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised.If you are not the intended recipient please do not read, print, re-transmit, store, disclose, copy, distribute or act in reliance on it or any attachments.Instead please e-mail it back to the sender and then immediately permanently delete it.By opening any attachment to this e-mail you are expressly acknowledging that the attachment is subject to copyright, and you thereby undertake not to alter, copy, disseminate, re-transmit, rely upon or use the attachment except as expressly authorised by the sender. ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Valid CSS please - ??
David Dorward wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 04:12:22PM +0100, John 'Max' Maxwell wrote: Anyway - is there a way of adding the 3 necessary filters below to give my div an 'opaque' background without invalidating my CSS? If you use non-standard properties, then your CSS can't be valid. so there is not a valid way of adding transparency to a layer - is that right? That seems a shame as it is a good tool I think - does anyone else use it or is it valid code only in here? The only other way (in my scenario) is to add a transparent image 'over' the background to line up with the div - but this is a bit of a 'fudge' and seems a shame when there is code to do the job. Do you know why it isn't valid? Max. ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Semantic syntax highlighting of PHP-code
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Re: [WSG] Validates only EN? (was: Validate multiple (X)HTML pages)
The WDG validator can work recursively: http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ My little Problem with it, is that it moans about the XHTML DTD: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd, line 237, character 28: omitted tag minimization parameter can be omitted only if OMITTAG NO is specified on the SGML declaration This is my header: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//ES http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=es lang=es head How odd, if I point it at my sole remaining XHTML document[1], doesn't produce that error: http://htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdorward.me.uk%2Fcontact%2Fmail.phpwarnings=yes [1] Its a dynamically generated page and I haven't gotten around to rewriting it in HTML 4.01 yet And this is yours: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en head Strange, it shouldn't be the '?xml' and the 'ES' neither. But: # Level of HTML: Unknown Maybe it's the line-break before 'PUBLIC'. I'll check it now. No, it _is_ the //ES, why is that? Any other validator I know don't mind to validate spanish HTML. Ciao Niels *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Semantic syntax highlighting of PHP-code
I am thinking about what would be the best way to do syntax highlighting of PHP-code. If one considers how PHP:s own syntax highlight function works, it produces a mess of inline-styles (or font-tags for the poor ones still doing PHP 4). See http://se.php.net/highlight_string See also http://www.sitepoint.com/article/highlight-source-code-php ... Anyone else thinking along these lines? This should help: http://pear.php.net/package/Text_Highlighter You'll get any freedom to define your PHP, and also (because you get the source) to modify the highlighting-generator itself, if it not allready produces nice classes. Lars Gunther Ciao Niels *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validates only EN? (was: Validate multiple (X)HTML pages)
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:55:21AM -0600, Niels Fr?hling wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//ES http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; EN is the language the DTD is written in, not the the document. That Doctype is just wrong. html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=es lang=es The lang attribute specifies the language of the document. No, it _is_ the //ES, why is that? I don't have the inclination to put a sample document together right now, but there are various settings in SGML that aren't expressed in the DTD (such as NET start tag settings), and these are different for HTML and XHTML. Most likely the validator is trying to use the HTML settings. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Valid CSS please - ??
The only other way (in my scenario) is to add a transparent image 'over'
the background to line up with the div - but this is a bit of a
'fudge' and
seems a shame when there is code to do the job.
Do you know why it isn't valid?
No idea. Opera and Safari support the CSS3 recommendation, Mozilla
also offers an own CSS extension (with a valid -moz prefix). MSIE 6
needs a Microsoft - only filter specification.
Firefox 1.5+ also supports 'opacity', no need for the '-moz' anymore.
Which then leaves MSIE alone. But anyway, MSIE is not interested in any
kind of valid code, so conditional-comments for MSIE-specific CSS comes
to mind:
head
titleValidates where it should (xml+html), and not where nobody
cares/title
style type=text/css
.fader { opacity: 0.5; }
/style
!--[if lt IE 7]
style type=text/css
.fader { filter:
progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Alpha(opacity=50); }
/style
![endif]--
/head
Ciao
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Re: [WSG] Validates only EN? (was: Validate multiple (X)HTML pages)
On 25 Sep 2006, at 18:55, Niels Fröhling wrote: This is my header: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//ES http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=es lang=es No, it _is_ the //ES, why is that? Any other validator I know don't mind to validate spanish HTML. The PUBLIC identifier in the Document Type Declaration _must_ end / EN as it is a reference to the XHTML DTD (which happens to have been written in English), and unrelated to the language in which the XHTML document is written. If you look at the DTD: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/dtds.html#a_dtd_XHTML-1.0-Strict you'll see that it states what the PUBLIC and SYSTEM identifiers are: This DTD module is identified by the PUBLIC and SYSTEM identifiers: PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN SYSTEM http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; By changing your Document Type Declaration to use ES, you are basically saying that your document type is _not_ XHTML 1.0, but some non-existent document type. As the validator cannot find any such Document Type Definition, it has nothing to validate your document against. The definitions of the Document Type Declaration and associated requirements might make this clearer: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#h-7.2 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#strict HTH, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Validates only EN?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//ES http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; EN is the language the DTD is written in, not the the document. That Doctype is just wrong. Hmm, what's the difference? ENTITY being ENTIDAD? I guess it's some left-over from SGML, but I didn't find information on internationalization aspects of DTDs on a hurry. What would be the implication of an DE or ES DTD, if/when the whole expressability of a DTD is fixed hard-defined english idiomatic? If that's true (fixed hard-defined), which technical difference (I'm not asking the sense-question, the sense is clear :-) makes it if it's ES or CH or RU. No, it _is_ the //ES, why is that? I don't have the inclination to put a sample document together right now, but there are various settings in SGML that aren't expressed in the DTD (such as NET start tag settings), and these are different for HTML and XHTML. Most likely the validator is trying to use the HTML settings. So in this case (because: Any other validator I know don't mind to validate spanish HTML. ) the validator simply messes. Let's really construct what I mean: 1) I'm going to write my only new complete DTD 2) I'm going to write (better: declare) it to be written in spanish 3) I'm copying the XHTML1.0 Strict DTD into my suppose to be spanish new written DTD 4) I'm serving my DTD as: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//ES http://www.spania.com/docutipo.dtd; 5) I could rename all tag-names to spanish Please name me a reason why that is invalid! (and again besides the sense, I know it's stupid and missleading, ... to declare english as being spanish). Could a SGML-parser switch ENTITY to ENTIDAD, and stop understanding my DTD then? Or is my HTML then ITHM? Seeking understanding, not trolling, thanks Niels *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Valid WAI LInk
Hi There, I have just finished validating a layout - www.project.ex16.co.uk and used the tools in the firefox toolbar to check it - all ok on XHTML, CSS and WAI. The first two give you links to use for your VALID! gifs etc but not the third - is there a protocol to follow here? Thanks, Max. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Hi all I am playing with mod_rewrite to make user/SE friendly urls of a database driven website. I have noticed that CMSs like WordPress (I'm *not* using WP for this project) make use of absolute urls, and that someone on WP's forum mentioned that absolute urls are important for RSS feeds. I always thought relative urls were best as they preserved bandwidth etc. However, it also seems that mod_rewrite is easier to configure with absolute urls too. I'd be interested in what many of you feel is best practice in the use of the following, in combination: 1. User/SE friendly urls (eg http://www.domain.com/folder/1/3/ as opposed to http://www.domain.com/folder/index.php?$a=1amp;$b=3) 2. Relative vs absolute urls (eg http://www.domain.com/images/1.jpg vs ../images/1.jpg) Should *all* pages be in a flat file system to avoid ../../ etc, or should I use index.php inside its own folder as the default file name for each page? 3. RSS feed requirements Is it true that RSS requires the use of absolute urls? --- Also, on another note, I've noticed a lot of sites use / as a link back to the home page, which works fine on my remote server. But I like to maintain a copy of my main project site locally, and the slash does not work on my internal server. How would I get around having to have two different copies of my website? Is there an option other than using VirtualHost which I can't seem to find an up-to-date, easy-to-understand explanation for configuring with OSX Tiger? Many thanks for any assistance. Sarah -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: I'd be interested in what many of you feel is best practice in the use of the following, in combination: 1. User/SE friendly urls (eg http://www.domain.com/folder/1/3/ as opposed to http://www.domain.com/folder/index.php?$a=1amp;$b=3) Looks more professional, easier to deal with if you ever decide to switch technologies (php to jsp or whatever), and some search engines don't follow/separately index the second type of URL with GET variables attached (although this may have changed in recent years, as I'm sure I've come across search results which included them) 2. Relative vs absolute urls (eg http://www.domain.com/images/1.jpg vs ../images/1.jpg) Should *all* pages be in a flat file system to avoid ../../ etc, Two questions wrapped in one. You already mention part of the answer later on: to avoid the whole ../ referencing when pointing to things like images, which are usually always in a known location, reference them just from the root of the site, e.g. img src=/images/1.jpg ... I'd avoid the ../ shenanigans, as that makes your directories less portable (if you move a dir, the relative reference to common files may get broken - of course, references from the root of the site can also break if you moved the images folder, for instance). should I use index.php inside its own folder as the default file name for each page? I usually take a hybrid approach (combined with content negotiation in Apache): I usually don't reference index.php at all (linking to the directory only), and any other single files I just link to as if they were directories, e.g. / /about/index.php /about/bio.php I would link to as a href=/ ... a href=/about/ ... a href=/about/bio/ ... respectively. Again, this last one works thanks to content negotiation, aka MultiViews 3. RSS feed requirements Is it true that RSS requires the use of absolute urls? From what I remember, RSS doesn't have a concept of base URL, so yes you'd need absolute URLs. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
On 9/25/06, Sarah Peeke (XERT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I am playing with mod_rewrite to make user/SE friendly urls of a database driven website. ... I'd be interested in what many of you feel is best practice in the use of the following, in combination: 1. User/SE friendly urls (eg http://www.domain.com/folder/1/3/ as opposed to http://www.domain.com/folder/index.php?$a=1amp;$b=3) Of course, and if you can keep them short, even better. 2. Relative vs absolute urls (eg http://www.domain.com/images/1.jpg vs ../images/1.jpg) Should *all* pages be in a flat file system to avoid ../../ etc, or should I use index.php inside its own folder as the default file name for each page? Fancy urls is independent of the file system you use. Wordpress calls all files and content from index.php (it's templating), so the slashes you see don't imply a file structure. Actual files such as images and PDFs, however, do have a folder structure. 3. RSS feed requirements Is it true that RSS requires the use of absolute urls? If your link is relative to the server the page is on, and someone has that link in their RSS viewer which is a dynamic page that is *not* on your server, the link won't work. This is also true for images in the markup... those won't display in RSS feeds. I modified the RSS feeds of my Wordpress install to convert relative URLs to absolute; and Wordpress uses fancy urls which is what you are thinking of; that's completely separate from whether or not they are relative or absolute... they can be both. -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... portfolio.christianmontoya.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Sarah Peeke wrote: Is it true that RSS requires the use of absolute urls? Hello Sarah, Required I don't know, but I always use absolute URLs within my posts so users who get the whole post can follow any included local links without having to actually come to the site. I do the same with images so the get the whole thing. Regarding employing the Apache mod_rewrite rule for SE, I honestly don't *think* it makes much of a difference, but I suppose it can be convenient for users to note the differences between posts just by looking at the URL. Respectfully, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ New: History of the web: http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=124 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Hi Patrick Thanks for your reply. I'd avoid the ../ shenanigans, as that makes your directories less portable OK, I can see how this works on a remote server. / for home page /images/1.jpg for image folder located in root etc But how do I then maintain this same file structure on my internal server (OSX Tiger) so I don't need to have two copies of my website? / /about/index.php /about/bio.php I would link to as a href=/ ... a href=/about/ ... a href=/about/bio/ ... Again, this last one works thanks to content negotiation, aka MultiViews Do you have a reference or simple code snippet for using MultiViews with your last example? -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Rob I won't have a chance to try this until later in the week, but many thanks for the detailed explanation. I'll let you know how it goes. PS I assume this works OK with Tiger? Much appreciated Sarah :) -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au/ web development : digital imaging : dvd production *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Absolute URLs, RSS Feeds Mod_Rewrite
Peter Firminger wrote on 26-09-2006: Ok, we're getting way OT now... Please take this discussion off list. Oops... consider it done, and apologies one and all. Rob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
