Re: [WSG] Legitimate uses of b and i
I do not agree. The VISUAL impact or VISUAL meaning should be added by CSS. If you need italicized text, you´ll be probally trying to add some emphasis or differentiation in the page. Why should we hide this from our NON-VISUAL friends? Legitimate i , it´s the same of legitimate font. It´s the presentation over meaning. :D Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Hello Andrew, Does anyone know of any other legitimate uses of these tags? For the life of me I cannot think of one legitimate use for the b element. If it's bold then the reason is probably strong emphasis thus strong should be used. Otherwise it should be made bold in the CSS. For the i element, though, I can think of a couple of legitimate uses: 1) To convey thought. Thought as in unspoken dialog should be italicized. This should be on the page, not CSS-styled so as to retain at least visual meaning. Example: iThat's a good idea/i, he thought to himself. 2) Language usage such as Latin as this is a long standing convention in print and must be retained (thus not styled via CSS). Example: i lang=laLorem ispum/i That's my thinking on the matter. Hope it helps. Respectfully, Mike Cherim http://green-beast.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Legitimate uses of b and i
Just one more thing: For language purposes, there is always the lang attribute. It can be added to a meaningless element, like span. The W3C recommends this kind of approach. Ok, ok. So, the browsers don´t understand that yet. But it´s always better to use EM over I and STRONG over B. -- Love all. Trust a few. Do wrong to none. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] PNGs in CSS background images in IE6
Usually I set the container element to position:relative, and the
container´s links to position:static . It works fine.
Geoff Pack escreveu:
Thanks guys, all fixed now.
Just seeing that it was possible was enough to make me to strip it back
and start again. The problem was that I had an errant
div {position:relative; ...}
in my CSS. Wouldn't have thought it would bugger anything up. Most of my
divs, and all of the content with the problematic backgrounds are
positioned anyway.
cheers,
Geoff.
c41.com.au - beautiful site btw.
-Original Message-
From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org On Behalf Of Peter Ottery
Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 13:56
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] PNGs in CSS background images in IE6
Geoff wrote:
- Yeah. Position relative doesn't seem to work.
can you break it down to a basic stripped down version and post it
somewhere for us to check out?
I wrestled with it for ages on my site (http://c41.com.au) and
eventually arrived at applying position:relative to the links
specifically (in http://c41.com.au/css/lt_ie7.css) like:
#main a:link, #main a:visited, #main a:hover, #main a:active
{position:relative}
which worked for the links in that central content area...
pete o
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Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles
Look at http://www.tsa.ind.br they have print styles, and also a php print preview, using the print CSS. Barney Carroll escreveu: CK wrote: Hi, After browsing some favored CSS sites, some by Standards Evangelist, there seems to be a decline in the use of print styles. Has some movement escaped my research? Decline? There are only two truly decent print styles I've ever seen, ala and bbc news. Every wonderful article I've ever read about print styles is all but illegible in physical form. It's a shame because if I know I'm going to be reading for over 3 minutes I far prefer to have physical copy. I would love to hear of other well-printed sites though. I strongly believe in css for print but have seen far too few good examples of it. Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] The Decline of Print Styles
The print preview uses my print styles...but some users don´t even look at it, because of the page´s colours and images. :D Thierry Koblentz escreveu: Look at http://www.tsa.ind.br they have print styles, and also a php print preview, using the print CSS. I did that on my site years ago using ASP to find out *later* that browsers already had a Print Preview option :-) --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CSS/Web Design: Request for Assistance
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